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grubburg
01-26-2002, 07:03 AM
hi, my name is gabe. this summer i was wondering if i should buy a 96 or 98 240 and put a new maxima engine in it? is this reasonable? how much would the engine cost? anyone heard of doing this? does anyone have aim so i can ask them more about this? thank you.
-g

grubburg
01-26-2002, 07:59 AM
anyone out there?  is this too random?
-g

S13Grl
01-26-2002, 08:17 AM
Maxima engine and tranny are Front Wheel Drive. This would require major drivetrain modifications and would prove to be ridiculously expensive.

grubburg
01-26-2002, 08:51 AM
well, i don't get it.  how can this car be sporty?  it's got a sport 2.4 I-4, 155 bhp BUT it's 0-60 in 8.3 seconds!  (according to edmunds.com)

so i'm either looking at a used one of these or a used prelude.  what do you think man?

-g

Chokets
01-26-2002, 08:53 AM
don't get a prelude, specially if your a dude, cuz that's a girls car, but mostly cuz it's a Honda and they all smell like V-tec.

S13Grl
01-26-2002, 09:08 AM
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> I'm a girl <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>... not offended by the &quot;man&quot; comment though...


If you're buying a &nbsp;240 and have money to spend on dropping a Maxima motor in it, then you obviously want to go faster. The 240SX has a large amount of aftermarket products available and is easily upgradable. The motor is torquey, power comes from the rear, styling is great... stock figures aren't that good... but are you staying stock?

grubburg
01-26-2002, 09:15 AM
stock? &nbsp;oh god no. &nbsp;friends don't freinds drive stock, right?

i wanted a prelude cause there is so much stuff you can buy for them. &nbsp;i don't have a lotta cash, cause i work as a bagger and i'm going to junior college. &nbsp;so just bolt-ons and stuff. &nbsp;like cold air intakes and stuff to give me a little more gusto.

if you had 1000 to spend on your 240, what would you buy and how much HP would it give yoU?
-g

tnord
01-26-2002, 09:17 AM
the added weight of the 3.5 liter V6 would take away the handling capabilities, and i thought the 0-60 times were more in the mid to high 7 second range rather than 8, but what do i know

also, i wouldn't knock on the prelude, we had a '00 type SH at work last summer and the thing absolutely rips, it's really a shame they quit making it, and you can drive it year round

MyFirst240SX
01-26-2002, 09:33 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from grubburg on 8:51 am on Jan. 26, 2002
well, i don't get it. how can this car be sporty? it's got a sport 2.4 I-4, 155 bhp BUT it's 0-60 in 8.3 seconds! (according to edmunds.com)

so i'm either looking at a used one of these or a used prelude. what do you think man?

-g
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I dont think 0-60 means alot to be a sports car. &nbsp;If you want a good stock 0-60 grow a mullet and get a camaro. &nbsp;Or If you want some power do a realistic engine swap like a SR20DET. &nbsp;Or turbo your own motor.

S13Grl
01-26-2002, 09:36 AM
I'm definitely not bashing on the Prelude <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. They are great cars and definitely do have the aftermarket support we have. Perhaps a bit wider. But you'll have to agree with me that we also have great aftermarket support done in good quality. Also, the drivetrain layout is a great benefit. Don't get me wrong, Hondas are great, but... I just love 240s. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

If I had 1K, I'd go for Intake, Cat-Back, and some lowering springs as my first mods.

LanceS13
01-26-2002, 09:42 AM
If you only have $1K don't even think about &nbsp;engine swaps...that's not near enough to pull off &nbsp;any engine swap.
Start with your suspension so you can handle the power you plan &nbsp;to make. &nbsp;You can get a &nbsp;good spring/shock combo and maybe even &nbsp;squeeze in &nbsp;a set of sway bars for a &nbsp;grand. &nbsp; Now you're in a &nbsp;little better shape to handle over 200hp. &nbsp; Decide &nbsp;if you want to go turbo &nbsp;or stay n/a.

Zemus
01-26-2002, 10:04 AM
I say if you want power get the SR, all the great 240's have them, some even have skyline engines, but now were talking from 6 to 11 grand. But with 11 grand you can get a skyline engine (RB26DETT R34) install, if u can find the right place. &nbsp;But once u pass the 10g mark, it gets to the point where some say &quot;Why dont u just get a car with all that power in it in the first place.&quot; &nbsp;Its all your choice......

whateverjames
01-26-2002, 10:27 AM
some great 240sx's also have turbo KA's. &nbsp; with $1000 in horsepower mods, you're going nowhere. you can get an intake and exhaust, pay for the installation of the exhaust, and you're still slow as ####. people need to realize this. now $1000 in suspension upgrades, now were talkin!

tnord
01-26-2002, 11:05 AM
my comment was in reference to chokets post S13Girl, as far as a grand in mods go, you can definitely get springs shocks and swaybars for a grand, but then you're stuck with crap tires still, my winter tires can probably handle about 40-50% of the cornering force the suspension is capable of, with that in mind:

Eibach Pro-Kit: $225
Tokico gas shocks: $400
Dunlop SP Sport 8000: $375

DuffMan
01-26-2002, 01:40 PM
The maxima is fwd, but a pathfinder is rwd, right?

I wonder how tough it would be to get a pathfinder engine into a 240sx.

silk
01-26-2002, 02:14 PM
just a note...the rb26dett wont fit inthe 240...but the skyline motor swap that i think your talking about is the r32 rb25det...but im not positive...and if the rb26dett does fit..well then im not goin after that sr20 anymore.

ka24et
01-26-2002, 08:27 PM
buy the prelude.

Takumi
01-26-2002, 08:58 PM
Here's the lowdown.

If you want something with good power to begin with and something that'll give you a nice kick in the pants when you're pushing it down the highway or an open road. &nbsp;Get yourself a Prelude.

If you want something you'd like to work at in the future to make it go faster and something different with lots of potential. &nbsp;Get a 240SX.

After a while, finding aftermarket parts for either Hondas or Nissans aren't hard at all. &nbsp;It just depends on what you want to do.

Tuck&Poke
01-26-2002, 09:02 PM
no because the pathfinder has the engine connected to the front axle and then the front axel connects to the rear one

Zemus
01-26-2002, 09:04 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from silk on 2:14 pm on Jan. 26, 2002
just a note...the rb26dett wont fit inthe 240...but the skyline motor swap that i think your talking about is the r32 rb25det...but im not positive...and if the rb26dett does fit..well then im not goin after that sr20 anymore.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Yes it does fit, only 3 documented ppl have done it, it is possable, pricey, buy yes

DuffMan
01-27-2002, 12:55 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from minime686 on 10<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2 pm on Jan. 26, 2002
no because the pathfinder has the engine connected to the front axle and then the front axel connects to the rear one
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Huh? The 2WD Pathfinder is RWD. The setup you described is how awd cars are setup, but not trucks I think. I would imagine that putting a VQ in would be similar to putting in a VG30DETT. 240HP without mods would be pretty nifty.

misnomer
01-27-2002, 01:10 AM
Any respectable 2wd truck chassis is rwd. Four wheel drive is usually going to be activated by the throw of a switch. The VG30DETT post a while back piqued my interest. . . $2000 for that motor and it allegedly fits without too much custom work (bah, who needs a hood? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>). I guess I'll find out more when I hunker down and do something to my car :-)

uuninja
01-27-2002, 07:10 AM
All RB motors have the same basic external dimensions. The problem is clearance for the Twin turbo. The RHD steering column may not clear both turbos and plumbing. Second the AWD layout of the RB26dett would require a RWD trannie to work with the FR lay out of the 240. So it is more practical to start woth the RB25 in the first place.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from silk on 2:14 pm on Jan. 26, 2002
just a note...the rb26dett wont fit inthe 240...but the skyline motor swap that i think your talking about is the r32 rb25det...but im not positive...and if the rb26dett does fit..well then im not goin after that sr20 anymore.
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matic 240sx
01-27-2002, 08:07 AM
You have a few better options with the 240sx than the prelude I would say. &nbsp; First off its rear wheel drive <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> fun fun fun... &nbsp;Second SR20DET swap is sick, a must for the 240sx. &nbsp;But if not... &nbsp;You can always buy a turbo kit and run like 6, 7 psi stock. &nbsp;But if I was you and had a 1000 to spend on mods I would go for Lowering springs... &nbsp;nos kit, exhuast. &nbsp;This guy on 240sx.org runs a 240 with the KA24DE and has a direct port 100 shot of nos with stock internals... I would go 75 direct port. &nbsp;You would prolly pull a nice low or mid 14 with those mods.

The prelude is ok but if you get a new one, or close to new... that means more money for car and less for mods

idunit
01-27-2002, 09:07 AM
I don't know where that 8.3 second time came from but thats garbage. &nbsp;I've time my truck and my dads truck 0-60 was high 7's and my car accelerates faster then them both. &nbsp;My friend has a 93' 240 and walked all over a new prelude. &nbsp;When the got to the corner it was even worse. &nbsp;He had to slow down for the guy to catch back up.

240 2NR
01-28-2002, 10:13 AM
Everyone seems to be missing the fact that a 240 can be had for WAY less than a last gen prelude (by far the best looking). &nbsp;Even the 97's fetch $15k on average. &nbsp;A 97-98 240 can be had for $11-12k, a 95-96 for $5-10k, and S13's are dirt cheap. &nbsp;#### you could have your 240 with an SR for under $8k if you do your homework.

I would say if the speed is really bothering you, get a 95-96 and SR or turbo it. &nbsp;You could do a lot more than $1000 in mods and arrive at the same price.

tnord
01-28-2002, 10:44 AM
i don't know where you're getting you're pricing, but i got my 98 with 42k miles for 15.5, and i work at the dealership i got it from so really couldn't get a better deal, but nonetheless you are right that a good prelude will cost significantly more than a good 240

Evil S14
01-28-2002, 10:54 AM
man i guess i got a hella deal... i got my 97 240 with 50k miles on it for $8200, of course we had to BS the old man who was working the dealership, now i feal kinda bad for deceiving the elderly ....

AceInHole
01-28-2002, 11:35 AM
$1000 in suspension goes a long way.... &nbsp;I've put in a bit more than that and the car handles great.

Although... I'm trying to find out if $1000 can cut out a basic low boost turbo setup <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;(almost there.... aargh).

HippoSleek
01-28-2002, 12:06 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 240 2NR on 8:13 am on Jan. 28, 2002
Everyone seems to be missing the fact that a 240 can be had for WAY less than a last gen prelude (by far the best looking). Even the 97's fetch $15k on average. A 97-98 240 can be had for $11-12k, a 95-96 for $5-10k, and S13's are dirt cheap. #### you could have your 240 with an SR for under $8k if you do your homework.
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Yes, BUT - if you are getting a loan for the car, banks tend not to be willing to give you the extra $5K in cash to mod the car with. &nbsp;If you could finance a swapped car, great - but unless you have the spare $5K laying around the best route is to get what you can finance.