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nemcho
08-27-2011, 02:45 AM
After a LOOOOOOOTTTT of requests, here's a DIY write up of the process to black out the headlights like I did on my old s14. There's already a lot of tutorials on this kind of thing but the difference with mine is that I painted what I wasn't suppose to and I ended up with a completely different look that what we usually see.


I kind of always hated the way my USDM Zenki headlight looked like.
I'm from france and was fed up of seeing all my friends with either JDM or German style headlight.
Living in California for 2 years now, I have to deal with the USDM units. Also I don't really want to spend $180 on some circuit sport plastic lens when it cost less than $10 for them to make them.
So I decided to black out my headlight.
After making some researches, I realized that the USDM unit doesn't really have THAT MUCH of zone that doesn't reflect light and the blacked zone won't be THAT visible because of the ugly flutes on the lens. The only way to have enough black in the headlight was basically to do a projector retrofit. Something I really don't want to do since my budget is limited as a student.
(I don't remember the author)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7457/73264450308068826743628.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/73264450308068826743628.jpg/)

I continued my research until I landed on this pic:
(I don't know who's the author)
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8426/72197450308308826743628.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/72197450308308826743628.jpg/)

It look awesome!!! + I have the same bodykit as the guy. At first I thought it was some JDM headlight but I stared at the pic for maybe 10 minutes and realized that they were the USDM ones! I soon realized how he pulled this look: he had to paint the lower reflective portion of the headlight.
Smart but legal? I don't care. I gave a shot.

You will need:
-Flat head screwdriver
-moist towel or clean rag
-a oven
-a cookie pan
optional:
-polishing pad
-plastic polish
-Windsheild rubber sealant.

Time: Took me 8 hours first time. 3-4 hours on the second time. I did this mod on many headlights. That proved how people liked my headlight!

Difficulty: 3 out of 5

Disclamer: Do this mod at your own risk. I won't be held responsible if you do it wrong. I'll you has much info as I can but my responsibility limits to here. Take your time.

-FIRST, jack your car up.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3004/makeyourcarfasterforfre.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/makeyourcarfasterforfre.jpg/)

-Headlight unmounted, on a cooking pan with some moist towels. Ready for Baking. All bulbs, rubber parts, metallic clips and plastic rings should be taken off. DO NOT TOUCH THE BULB WITH YOUR FINGERS!! It can leave grease and it will create stains on your bulb. You can pop the metal clips really easily with a flat head screwdriver. The headlight SHOULD BE FACING UP. If it touches the moist towel during the baking process, you will have some nasty oxidation stains and the only way to get rid of those is by wet-sanding with ultra thin girt sand paper like 2000 grit.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6523/1109101741.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/1109101741.jpg/)

-I think I baked the headlight for 6-7 minutes at 275 degrees fareneith. I don't really remember. I used a flat head screwdriver to pry the rubber seal.
Don't be to scared. You 'll need a little bit of force for this job.
Don't be too slow. The rubber seal cools down real fast!! If it's too cold, You can rebake your headlight few minutes more. Be sure to not let the rubber sealant touch anything. It's hard to get rid of it without doing any damage.
Don't be too stupid. The headlight unit is hot. Use gloves.
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2462/1109101811.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/1109101811.jpg/)

-Free!!! Weeeeeee!!!!!!!
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1571/1109101813a.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/1109101813a.jpg/)

-Sanding. Well, just sanding. I used a 150 grit paper if I remember well. It's the longest part. You'll have to be super careful. It's pretty time consuming to sand all the small crevice without sanding what you are not supposed to. Multiply this time by 2 because of course you have headlight units. Some tape to avoid oversanding can help.
Before
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2788/1109101957.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/1109101957.jpg/)
After
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5499/1109102024.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/1109102024.jpg/)

-The secret!!
Here's what ''original'' about this write up. It's the lower reflective zone. Normally we are not supposed to touch this zone since it's reflecting light. But if you look at the result pictures, you can see that it's this zone that makes the difference. It's pretty big and you see the headlight from above when installed on the car, so the first thing you see is this big zone. I was a little bit scared about the final light output. "will I get pulled over?'', ''Will it change anything?''. But cops don't know the anatomy of headlight units from all car whatever the brand or model is. So I gave a shot.
Before
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7718/1109102029.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/1109102029.jpg/)
After
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9023/1109102056.jpg (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/1109102056.jpg/)

-I wanted to have fun while the headlight is open, so I put some blue tape on the reflector that goes in front of the low beam bulb. Just to do a fake HID look during daytime. It doesn't hurt.
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2333/1109102234.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/1109102234.jpg/)

-Done with the sanding. You can pretty much see what zones I will paint.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2302/1110100019.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/1110100019.jpg/)

-Masking. Be sure to really mask EVERYTHING! Even the opening in the back for the bulb. I had some not-so-happy overspray because of some space between the layers of tape. Don't forget to mask the rubber seal!!!!
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7742/1110100055.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/1110100055.jpg/)

-Primer. 2 coats. Actually what I used to paint my entire car. People at one Kragen was telling that it was primer and people at another Kragen were telling me it was paint.... anyway, it worked.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3802/1110100208.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/1110100208.jpg/)

-Painting. You don't need High temperature paint. Regular paint is fine. I used a cheap mat black paint. I turned out cool but when I did this black out on another pair of headlight with better paint I saw the difference in black tones. DON'T TAKE CHEAP PAINT!!
Do light and brief strokes like fog to avoid drips. If it happens, do not touch the drop. Wait until it's dry then sand it until even. Paint over.
First layer. Just do a foggy layer. It should look unfinished.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5530/1110100233.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/1110100233.jpg/)
2nd and 3rd layers. That's when you get serious. I waited something like 20 to 30mn between layers.
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8697/1110100258a.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/1110100258a.jpg/)

-Drying. It was a winter night so I couldn't let them dry outside. I used a little heater for 30mn. Worked fine. I then let them sit overnight.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5711/1110100301.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/1110100301.jpg/)

-Unmasking and remounting. TADAA!! Be gentle with removing the tape. The reflective coat brakes off really easily. I had some bad surprises.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/117/1110100329.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/1110100329.jpg/)

-Quick tesfit without lens.
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5252/1110101308.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/1110101308.jpg/)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4166/1110101309.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/1110101309.jpg/)
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5158/1110101309a.jpg (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/1110101309a.jpg/)
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5801/1110101310.jpg (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/1110101310.jpg/)
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9555/1110101311a.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/1110101311a.jpg/)
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5741/1110101312b.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/1110101312b.jpg/)

-I resealed the lenses by doing the same baking process. Just put the lens over the headlight unit like it should be. You don't need to press it in place. After baking, the rubber seal should soft enough so that you can press the lens and headlight unit together. At the same time and while it's still soft, put the metal clip in place. You can easily spot where they should be, it's flat zones on the headlights. ONCE AGAIN: The headlight SHOULD BE FACING UP. If it touches the moist towel during the baking process, you will have some nasty oxidation stains and the only way to get rid of those is by wet-sanding with ultra thin girt sand paper like 2000 grit.
If you don't want to reuse your sealant, you can take it off while it still soft with a screwdriver and apply some windsheild rubber sealant. No baking is needed here. But don't be messy, the rubber sealant really sticks!!

After that you can reassemble everything and put the headlights on your car.


-My lens were oxidized. So I wet-sanded them with ultra thin grit sand paper (something like 2000) and polished them by hand with plastic polish and a polishing pad. You can use the cheap polish and pad at Kragen. It'll do the job way better than their anti-oxidation kit for way cheaper.
before
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2639/14916346085997382674362.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/14916346085997382674362.jpg/)
During
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7590/75999460860053826743628.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/75999460860053826743628.jpg/)
After
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/215/14944446086020882674362.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/14944446086020882674362.jpg/)
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8417/73128460860178826743628.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/73128460860178826743628.jpg/)

OR you can follow mighty car mod techniques here:
How To Restore Your Headlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy_WF5Iei_I)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1381/279rm.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/279rm.jpg/)

-PHOTOSHOT!!!!!!!!
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9572/55142471404753826743628.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/55142471404753826743628.jpg/)
before, booooooooo
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7453/34399450697173826743628.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/34399450697173826743628.jpg/)
After, YEAHHHHHHH
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7695/14905146086023882674362.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/14905146086023882674362.jpg/)
Before with stock height, BOOOOOO
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4351/64893444992913826743628.jpg (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/64893444992913826743628.jpg/)
After, visiting Matt Field and his missile daily s13, YEAHHHHHHH
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8794/16285947980991382674362.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/16285947980991382674362.jpg/)
Before with stock height and oxidation, BOOOOOOOOOO (no photoshop)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7369/64050444030608826743628.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/64050444030608826743628.jpg/)
After, in people's mind, YEAHHHHHHH (kind of photoshop)
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9868/r333z.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/r333z.jpg/)

-Result: I had really good feedbacks. People were comparing my car with a R33. It changes from the usual "is it a camry? or the ''Is it an accord?"
I don't really consider my car as a R33 since it was a stock KA and that I could feel the age of the car and has nothing to be called ''fast'', but I was pretty glad how a ''simple, little mod'' like this could completely change everything. I put some kouki tail lights later on and people were starting to try to buy my little car.

Another alternative is to do like Pinki from Speedelement in the bay area.
She also painted the High Beam zone. I was feeling unique until I saw this car.
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6562/25446210150218535223827.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/25446210150218535223827.jpg/)

You drive a kouki with projector headlight?
Well no problem, just do the unmount and baking stuff. But we it gets interesting is that it's easier for your since you can unscrew the parts to be painted. Just unmount, sand and paint them. It's that easy. + you don't need the lens to be polished since it's glass. You kouki owner, How jealous I am....
The work I did on my friend's car
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2311/29918210150285209313827.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/29918210150285209313827.jpg/)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3177/30053410150285209388827.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/30053410150285209388827.jpg/)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5748/29350510150285209408827.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/29350510150285209408827.jpg/)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/283/29834210150285209603827.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/29834210150285209603827.jpg/)
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6701/29992310150285209623827.jpg (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/29992310150285209623827.jpg/)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/648/29618210150285210323827.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/29618210150285210323827.jpg/)

Let me know what you think and if you are going to do the mod :)

I can do the job for you if you don't have time and if you are willing to pay the shipping. Just PM me.

yomisiu
08-27-2011, 07:30 AM
it was looking good until you put the OEM lens back on. seems kinda pointless to me.

Mister.E
08-27-2011, 08:28 AM
it was looking good until you put the OEM lens back on. seems kinda pointless to me.

Agreed, the sections you chose to paint made the light look really awesome. Then the OEM lens went back on and the flutes pretty much blocked out all that work you put in.

hartig
08-27-2011, 09:13 AM
as mentioned already, get some clear covers (or make them)
looked really good until you put those stock ones on..

ezza
08-27-2011, 10:09 AM
im going to do this, i dont want to do the whole bottom parts though, also i hear the JDM housings are different too?

yellowxhoodie
08-27-2011, 11:07 AM
it was looking good until you put the OEM lens back on. seems kinda pointless to me.

this^
msglngth.

kalypso123
08-27-2011, 12:54 PM
as mentioned already, get some clear covers (or make them)


how do does one MAKE clear covers?

EsChassisLove
08-27-2011, 12:56 PM
Op said something about making them also, for like $30. I'm all ears for this cuz those CS ones are a bit pricey for CS and it being just a piece o plastic

adam s
08-27-2011, 02:25 PM
how do does one MAKE clear covers?

Sand down the flutes and polish.:wan:

jesse_s13
08-27-2011, 02:38 PM
very good write up. I just think you coulda got the headlights clearer

Bushido
08-27-2011, 03:12 PM
what about sanding down the inside of the headlight cover to get rid of the flutes, then polishing to a clear finish?

dtfdanyo
08-27-2011, 03:25 PM
^SC300 guys do that all the time. They call it "de-lining" and it looks pretty good after.

Jonathong
08-27-2011, 03:28 PM
Looks really good, but like everyone else would really like it better with a set with clear covers. Anyone have any pics online with black housing and clear cover's for the zenki?

EsChassisLove
08-27-2011, 03:35 PM
So some 2000 wet sanding should take car of the oem lenses? Plus waxing of course.

Maiku240sxS14
08-27-2011, 07:57 PM
Looks really good, but like everyone else would really like it better with a set with clear covers. Anyone have any pics online with black housing and clear cover's for the zenki?

I only blacked out the outter edge of the housing. Where you did the whole bottom, I only did about 1/2 to 3/4 of the border black. Don't mind the driver side.

Clear lense blacked out housing...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/nihon_jin/larger%20pix/DSC00167.jpg

Jonathong
08-27-2011, 08:56 PM
I only blacked out the outter edge of the housing. Where you did the whole bottom, I only did about 1/2 to 3/4 of the border black. Don't mind the driver side.

Clear lense blacked out housing...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/nihon_jin/larger%20pix/DSC00167.jpg

This one looks a lot cleaner I like it, definately saving pic for when I get my clear covers on my zenki

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GA378
08-27-2011, 08:58 PM
Nice write up maybe this will convince some people not to swap out for kouki

sidewaysil80
08-27-2011, 09:02 PM
looked great until the stock covers went on...then not so much. great writeup nonetheless

sidenote:
if you daily a missle, it's not a missle. it's just a shitty car.

anton1o
08-27-2011, 09:07 PM
Looks like, this is what a freind did with my 2UP Clear headlight covers.

Actually allows the colour to show off a bit more, you should give it a shot :)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/185801_10150103551532055_537172054_6562162_8172815 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/188859_10150105716767055_537172054_6582723_7280300 _n.jpg

EsChassisLove
08-27-2011, 09:37 PM
The black lights with the clear corners is ugly. Horribly ugly.

Maiku240sxS14
08-27-2011, 10:35 PM
To each his own....but the light output must be really horrible.

anton1o
08-27-2011, 11:18 PM
To each his own....but the light output must be really horrible.

Agreed, i like the black but if you plan on driving it at night i think you would need to get yourself some flood/fog lights.

nemcho
08-27-2011, 11:21 PM
Thanks for the feedbacks.

Yep you are all right. Putting the oem lenses back on pretty much killed everything. I was expecting that, that's the reason why I took pictures prior to lens install.
I don't really regret it that much because the flute kind of helped in the look of the car. They were reflecting the black paint ALL inside the headlight unit and made them look completelly blacked out. I wish pictures could show it.
I thought about defluting too, but once I baked the headlight and felt the flutes by touching them, I realized that it would be too much work for me.

I forgot to talk about the light output. Amazingly I didn't notice any difference. Of course THERE IS a difference but I really can't notice it. I had my ugly fog light (came with the car) on most of the time anyway.

I was thinking about making my own clear lens I even bought the plastic and some supplies but I couldn't get a hand on any vacuum table so I dropped the project and thought I would be able to save for legit clear lens one day.... that was if I didn't crash my car.

revcyanide
08-28-2011, 12:11 AM
make you own vacum table, people do it for making star wars shit all the time

nemcho
08-28-2011, 01:18 AM
make you own vacum table, people do it for making star wars shit all the time

I was thinking about it but it's pretty pointless to make a vacuum table JUST for clear lens and then throw away the table.
I could maybe use it for later but if it's the case, I would be maybe using it 3 times a year. + I live in a apartment so space is very limited for me.
Other reason is that I'll have to make a lot of master mold before creating the perfect one. I can't spend that much time and money in creating a vacuum table and sample molds. At the end I'll be spending more than just buying clear lenses from Circuit sport.

It sounded like you were saying that it was easy to make a vacuum table on the go. It just sounded. Trust me I would have done one or just bought CS clear lenses if I had the money ;) Being an international student, I built my car by limiting the cost at max. That explain the spray paint job. :)

revcyanide
08-28-2011, 09:38 AM
one can be made DIY for 50 dollars, uses a shop vac. works really well actually.

a buddy made one a few years back to make storm trooper outfits, sold em for like 200-300 pop.


Make a good, cheap, upgradeable sheet plastic vacuum former (http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-good,-cheap,-upgradeable-sheet-plastic-vacu/)


I have thought about doing it, but i am 100% positive my molds would be horribly shitty.

nemcho
08-28-2011, 01:31 PM
one can be made DIY for 50 dollars, uses a shop vac. works really well actually.

a buddy made one a few years back to make storm trooper outfits, sold em for like 200-300 pop.


Make a good, cheap, upgradeable sheet plastic vacuum former (http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-good,-cheap,-upgradeable-sheet-plastic-vacu/)


I have thought about doing it, but i am 100% positive my molds would be horribly shitty.



Thanks for link ;) I'll think about now that I saw this article.

fliprayzin240sx
08-28-2011, 02:07 PM
The first picture is my last S14. I've done this in all my S14 and about to paint my the kouki headlights I'm gonna eventually do on my 3rd S14.

My first S14, 1997 Kouki...blacked out all the chrome with the exception of the highbeam reflectors. Blacked out even the the corner lights.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Kouki%20S14/P1030007.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Kouki%20S14/P1030003.jpg

My 2nd S14, a 93 S14 Silvia. Hated the yellowing headlights so I decided to slap on some TSX HID retrofit and clear lenses. It was probably cheaper to just get a whole Kouki front end and throw in some ebay HID kit on it. Same thing as the kouki, I blacked out everything with the exception of the high beam reflectors. I painted the low beam reflectors since I had no use for them with the projectors in place.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3035.jpg?t=1255246744
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_14155.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3294.jpg?t=1242534397

This is what it used to look like:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/PA310053.jpg?t=1242707246

Same headlight now in my current/3rd S14...
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/1995%20240SX/IMG_2384.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/1995%20240SX/photo-3.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/1995%20240SX/photo.jpg

What I usually do, take anything and everything that you can take off the housing (clips, bulbs, plastic pieces), bake it in the open at about 250-300 degrees for about 5 minutes, pry it open with a butter knife. When it the glue gets cool and hardens, stick it in the oven again. Rough up the spots you want to paint with sand paper, primer, then paint it, stick it back in the open so the glue will soften again, and press the housing and cover back together.

If you have clear lenses and you want to darken the lights more, paint the inside of the clear lenses too and not the front (figured I'd say that before somebody paints EVERYTHING).

PS: You cant really compare our headlights to R33s. R33s have 2 lenses per say. A clear outer lens and another lens with flutes for each lights. The trim between the inner and outer lens are black from the factory.

nemcho
08-28-2011, 03:16 PM
PS: You cant really compare our headlights to R33s. R33s have 2 lenses per say. A clear outer lens and another lens with flutes for each lights. The trim between the inner and outer lens are black from the factory.

Yep exactly. But people were comparing them to R33's and I found this funny :)

hartig
08-28-2011, 04:51 PM
how do does one MAKE clear covers?

240sxONE Tech » Blog Archive » How To Make Your Own Clear Plastic Headlight Covers (http://tech.240sxone.com/404/how-to-make-your-own-plastic-headlight-covers/)
there you go.

sinnerstar
08-28-2011, 10:58 PM
240sxONE Tech » Blog Archive » How To Make Your Own Clear Plastic Headlight Covers (http://tech.240sxone.com/404/how-to-make-your-own-plastic-headlight-covers/)
there you go.

Same thing again but in a thread
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?18780-the-lense-forming-thread-finished-product-post-1

EsChassisLove
08-29-2011, 12:05 AM
I didnt know they made S14s in 1993.

Mister.E
08-29-2011, 06:50 AM
I didnt know they made S14s in 1993.

That's that OG shit.

ixfxi
08-29-2011, 09:36 AM
stupid fucking retards


acrylic headlight lenses, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure... real impact/UV resistant

i'm so confused, for a sec i thought these cars were R33s....


seriously, the brainage behind zilvia just keeps dropping off.

kOOpA
08-29-2011, 09:46 AM
i dunno if anybody has brought this up, but i think the OP's headlights would look better with clear lenses.

je_decoy
09-08-2011, 10:31 PM
does anyone know if theres any way to just put glass lenses on the zenk, without getting euro lights?

Zenki_516
09-08-2011, 10:49 PM
does anyone know if theres any way to just put glass lenses on the zenk, without getting euro lights?

no...

And can someone please post a pic of their actual light output after blacking out the housing? Not a retrofit, stock setup with blacked out housing.

foxystyle
09-09-2011, 01:21 AM
So what was the blue tape even in there...it was facing out, no where to reflect, how could that create a fake hid looks. Can't even see it with the lenses on.. open awsner this I'm confused

CooperII
09-13-2011, 10:50 PM
So i decieded to do this to the headlights on my 95 after talking to the guy who wrote this write up (ended up buying a bodykit from him lol). Heres my results.

The before and after shot after reading this write up.
http:// http://m.facebook.com/?w2m&_rdr#!/photo.php?fbid=277631342248466&id=100000048068483&set=a.261647270513540.74485.100000048068483&refid=0

Installed
http:// http://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.261647270513540.74485.100000048068483&type=1&op=1&v&refid=17#!/photo.php?fbid=277631785581755&id=100000048068483&set=a.261647270513540.74485.100000048068483&refid=0

Trying to buy clear headlight covers now......

Thanks for the write up buddy!

nemcho
09-14-2011, 08:43 PM
no...

And can someone please post a pic of their actual light output after blacking out the housing? Not a retrofit, stock setup with blacked out housing.

I would, but I sold my S14 already. From personal experience, I didn't notice any difference. And I had stock bulbs

So what was the blue tape even in there...it was facing out, no where to reflect, how could that create a fake hid looks. Can't even see it with the lenses on.. open awsner this I'm confused

Well it doesn't do any HID effect in the light output for sure. It's just that you see a blue thing inside the headlight and it looks like a blue bulb. Off course it's still not HID but I couldn't any better word :) Maybe I should have said fake blue bulb instead. Also you are right on the fact that the blue tape is placed on a non reflective part. It's actually because it's not reflective that I decided to put the tape here without wondering about any light output difference. And in real life you clearly see the blue tape thru the lens, even tho a clear lens would be better (as a lot of people keep saying in this post) ;)



So i decieded to do this to the headlights on my 95 after talking to the guy who wrote this write up (ended up buying a bodykit from him lol). Heres my results.

The before and after shot after reading this write up.
http:// http://m.facebook.com/?w2m&_rdr#!/photo.php?fbid=277631342248466&id=100000048068483&set=a.261647270513540.74485.100000048068483&refid=0

Installed
http:// http://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.261647270513540.74485.100000048068483&type=1&op=1&v&refid=17#!/photo.php?fbid=277631785581755&id=100000048068483&set=a.261647270513540.74485.100000048068483&refid=0

Trying to buy clear headlight covers now......

Thanks for the write up buddy!

No problem :)

One_love_silvia
09-19-2011, 09:13 PM
so i was wondering.... what if u used black chrome paint to paint the entire housing? it would still be reflective, no? obviously not as much as chrome, but itd be better than flat black

dued
09-19-2011, 09:46 PM
so i was wondering.... what if u used black chrome paint to paint the entire housing? it would still be reflective, no? obviously not as much as chrome, but itd be better than flat black

Hey Matt, Just go with Zenki Euro Market glass headlights, I've got them on my car and they look 100X better than any plastic headlight combination.

nemcho
09-20-2011, 03:12 AM
so i was wondering.... what if u used black chrome paint to paint the entire housing? it would still be reflective, no? obviously not as much as chrome, but itd be better than flat black

I guess yes. I saw a video on youtube in which the guy (a professional) used a satin black paint with shiny flakes to paint the entire area assembly (even the reflective parts) and said that it's reflective enough to keep the same output.