My 98 SE vs. 02 Eclipse GT V6

[gregshin]

All i have is Injen w/ CAI and 5 speed. He's got a stock V6 Eclipse stick also...i think he;s gonna be my BEECH...anyone raced one before?

[AJ]

no your going to be his bitch <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;he will tear u a new one if he can drive.. &nbsp;i forget the exact hp they r putting down, but it is a helluva lot more than our silly ka's can push <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Tuck&Poke]

theyve got 200hp and go to 60 in about 7.2 seconds. &nbsp;hes gonna whore you

[gregshin]

hmmm....200hp for a car that wieghs almost 3,200lbs without driver and FWD? I think he'll be my beech still....problem is that he 205lbs of torque....but he can't drive worth crap tho....

[uuninja]

Well you will know for sure when you race him. But the numbers aren't in your favor.

[Tuck&Poke]

well if he cant drive then you got a chance but i dont think that car is that heavy

[NoTuchn]

keep us posted.

[Tuck&Poke]

never mind you beat him its heavy and it takes 16.4 in the 1/4mile and 8.2sec to 60

[thewholefnshow]

Yah, the new v6 totally murdered that car... changed it from a high strung racer to a family engine in a nice body... every review I have read says that even though the pwoer numbers are very similar, the performance is a far cry from the old model.

[S13Grl]

I say you've got him. I raced an automatic in my '91 with a ram-air and catback and he was toast. You'll be fine. They're heavy as ####.

[Tuck&Poke]

the 95-97 eclpises did 0-60 in 6.1 sec and the 1/4mile in 14.7.... &nbsp;im telling you japan is getting soft on us

[S13Grl]

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the 95-97 eclpises did 0-60 in 6.1 sec and the 1/4mile in 14.7.... im telling you japan is getting soft on us</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That's definitely a fact. Money speaks louder then... speed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. &nbsp;They keep on refining family sedans and whatnot, it's so sad.

the eclipse USED to be scary but when u take into account their reliability issues and all its like eh...... after 40,000 miles the electrical system usually is capput..... &nbsp;they could have used slightly better engineering into the smaller components of the car and everything would have been sweet. but NoOoO &nbsp;oh and nizmo agrees <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[S13Grl]

I heard their AWD systems are nothing but money-pots for mechanics.

[thewholefnshow]

I have two friends with talon tsi's... one guy tricked out that does the 1/4 mile in 12.9 and it is still stock exhuast... which is way to small. They aren't that bad, it is a lot of parts that are basically the same as an Evolution... just a toned down version that's all. Those were great fast cars.. the new ones, slow. I think they are ugly too.

[Tuck&Poke]

i drove my friends gst and man it hauled. &nbsp;hes stock too. &nbsp;we got a gtech (which i seem to think is bullshitting us) and thats were i got those times from. &nbsp;in a magazine it said 6.4 but i somehow ran a 6.1 and a 14.8 instead of the magazines 15.0. &nbsp;its probably just my superior driving skills <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;he hasnt complained about it yet but its only got 20k miles and its a 95. &nbsp;only problem so far is a ball joint for the upper control arm or something like that but it was fixed for free anyway. &nbsp;great car

[MorganS13]

i wanted a 95-98 GSX ever since i got my car... &nbsp;now that i can actually afford one i don't really want one anymoer though. &nbsp;all i hear bout from people when talkin bout is about their crankwalk problem. &nbsp;its not just on the 95s like people believe, i've done research and there have been lots of cases on 96s and even some 97s and 98s. &nbsp;if u don't believe u can check out this site...
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/walkingcrankshaft.htm
just my preferance...but i don't wanna buy a car not knowin if i'm gonna have a possibly incurable problem that could cost me over $3k to fix

[alanhsu]

GREG...I'll still BURN YOU, just admit it, by the time I hit 3k miles, I'll be ready for you and whatever you can throw at me baby!

and NO, we are not racing this weekend. I am not gonna fek up my engine just to prove i'll own you!

hahaha luv you bro

[alanhsu]

oh yeah, FYI Eclipse still comes in FWD and it's only about 200-250lbs heavier.

[Nismos14]

yeah and eclipse was better when it had the AWD it was at least decent then....... now its a crapbox <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[S13Grl]

Alright, so 3053 is the weight w/o the driver. Say 3200 with the driver. 205 horses at crank, count for 15% drivetrain loss, say 175 at the FRONT wheel (:)). 175WHP pushing a 3200-pound-car... I say around 16-flat to 16.5 1/4 mile time. You guys won't race longer then 1/4 mile.... I don't think so at least. It's a close call, but the 240 will win. I speak from experience... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

Have love, people... have love....

(Edited by S13Grl at 7:29 pm on Jan. 25, 2002)

[Grant]

I really like how the new eclipses drive, and they are quite comfortable compared to the older ones too.

[S13Grl]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Sports cars aren't supposed to be comfy and smooth. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> I wanna feel every #### imperfection in the road! And have no body roll <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. But that's just me.

[DuffMan]

As for the Japanesse comapanies getting soft, it's only what they sell over here that is soft. I dont think they even sell Eclipses in the JDM and they are all made over here (in normal illinois, I think).

Depending on exchange rates, they get an EVO for about what we pay for the eclipse, so what the #### would they want with it anyway.

I think with equal driver skill, he might be able to beat you, but it's close enough that you might be able to take him with some luck. Anyways, you can always take him to a track and make him your bitch. Those things handle like pigs.

[DJ Machine]

The 2001 eclipse isn't an eclipse...its a car for secretaries who want a &quot;fun car to drive to work&quot;, fucking junk. Mitsu really blew it on this one, i cant believe ANYONE who is interested in cars at all would buy the latest gen stratus..er...eclipse.

(My sister just bought a Stratus R/T, same as the eclipse, not fast at all.)

[hybrid240]

my friend has a sentra with an sr20det and a total of 7000 in it including the car and the entire swap. he runs high 7s in the 1/8 (no 1/4 here). i also know a couple eclipse gst with over 30,000 in them and they cant get out of the 8s. there are fast but they are no nissan!

[jskim9]

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I heard their AWD systems are nothing but money-pots for mechanics.
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what I never understood was... why the EVO's were so dominant while Eclipse GSX's were not. I heard somewhere that the two engines aren't completely alike, but still... they're both horizontally mounted AWD's, why didn't Mitsu make the Eclipse the dominant model, since it's 2 door and all, looking more sporty compared to a sedan... just thinking out loud

John

[silk]

from my experience, 240's just find a way to win...or my friends just cant drive for shit. im totally stock , except for a body kit that puts on an extra 5-10 lbs and ive raped 3 Si's : one with intake exhaust, lowered, sparkplug wires, the 2 others were stock.

unfortunatly i have no experience with eclipses but the driver makes a shitload of a difference

[Chicken Magnet]

The new gen Eclipses are ugly.

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

Do you guy's get FTO, if you do, and in the case of the poor person who would ever buy a Misti, look out for the AWD kit, I think it's around $15K USD, a company in NZ used to make them up, well kit's is a rather poor term, how about new Chassis,with old body.
2800 +/- some lbs, Turbo'd V6 2.0l, 400hp, 10.9 sec passes, quite quick, but hey so are GTR's, for the same amount of money.

[S13Grl]

They actually don't have Eclipses in Japan. They're developed and sold in the States only, if I've been informed correctly.

[240racer]

I am pretty sure that 1G and 2G eclipse talon and laser were sold in the North American market only, but I think the new Eclipse is made by Mitsubishi and might be available in Japan. &nbsp;The 1 and 2G's were made by diamond star motors (DSM) Cryseler (sp?, who cares) built the body and mitsubishi built the engine

[AJ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from S13Grl on 6:27 pm on Jan. 25, 2002
Alright, so 3053 is the weight w/o the driver. Say 3200 with the driver. 205 horses at crank, count for 15% drivetrain loss, say 175 at the FRONT wheel (:)). 175WHP pushing a 3200-pound-car... I say around 16-flat to 16.5 1/4 mile time. You guys won't race longer then 1/4 mile.... I don't think so at least. It's a close call, but the 240 will win. I speak from experience... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

Have love, people... have love....

(Edited by S13Grl at 7:29 pm on Jan. 25, 2002)
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and we have a 2700ish pound car pushing a mere 135ish at the rear wheels... &nbsp; equal drivers, that mitsu will rip u up.. if he sucks.. u def got a chance.. but u better nail ur launch. &nbsp;front wheel drive cars are a heluva lot easier to fuck up launches and still get decnet times.. u over rev and start spinning a tire and ur not going anywhere fast.. (unless you have lsd)... thats just my experience at least.. i get a little too exited and get throttle happy to early <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Tuck&Poke]

sorry guys i made a mistake on my times. &nbsp;the 8.2 and 16.4 sec times were for a convertable auto (the slowest one) the times for a v6 manual (with a fairly good driver) is 0-60 in 7.0 flat and the 1/4 times i cannot find but im quessing 15.6 maybe. &nbsp;a little more respectable but still slow. &nbsp;the weight is approx 3200lbs w/o driver. &nbsp;its gonna be a good race i can tell you that.

[duderiffic]

If 0-60 in 7.0 is slow a 240 with 8.0 is fucked!

Hahahaha!

[Tuck&Poke]

heh well i guess i was right on my first guess.