Nissan R390 vs. McLaren F1

[Grant]

just curious, These two cars, are two of the fastest, (and most expensive) exotic cars that exist today.

[duderiffic]

McLaren... even though it's kinda gay and has one seat... it's more recongizable as an expensive car!  That's probably  a bad reason... but I'm droppin a milly on a car I better get some props!! The ol Nissan emblem just doesn't do that for you....

Now if it was Infiniti I'd think about it... hahahahaha...

Jeff

[Grant]

no matter, just slap on a GTR emblem !!:biggrin: the mclaren is a 3 seater tho, I prefer the Mclaren myself, just has that ultimate supercar image..

by the way, does the mclaren have a sequential gearbox like the R390?

(Edited by Grant at 12:34 am on Jan. 26, 2002)

[duderiffic]

Since when was the F1 a 3 - seater??  Also the Kenwood stereo in the F1 is a bonus..  Hahahaha...


Jeff

[drift freaq]

R390 baby!! and by the way duderiffic Infiniti's are Nissans the only place they are called Infiniti's is in the U.S.

[Grant]

McLaren OWNZ JOO!!!! :biggrin: j/k but, I'm pretty sure the production F-1's were 3 seaters. and yea the kenwood CD is a bonus, but no AM/FM (nice sound system without a radio, haha).
Anyways, does anyone know about the gearbox?

(Edited by Grant at 1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 am on Jan. 26, 2002)

[duderiffic]

Drift Freak,
&nbsp; &nbsp; Yes I am aware of this. =P &nbsp; I was referring to the illusion that Japanese car companies create to sell expensive cars to us white folk... get it?

Jeff

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

R390 vs McLaren F1.

Both 6 speed's
Both got the 320kph in the 20 second arena(Track, racing gas)
Number Produced; 50 R390's, 499 F1's.

Sorry I LOVE NISSAN'S

R390 all the way.

[S13Grl]

I'm gonna have to go for the Nissan on this one.

The MCLaren is a 3-seater, I believe. I know that the driver goes in the middle. I'd pay mad money to drive that car for a day... wanna see what's it like driving from the middle of the vehicle.

[Marita]

i found the status on the McLaren F1 and here it is...

DIMENSIONS &amp; WEIGHTS
Length 168.8 in.
Width 71.6 in.
Height 44.9 in.
Wheelbase 107.0 in.
Front track 61.7 in.
Rear track 57.9 in.
Curb weight 2425 lb.
Tires &nbsp; &nbsp;
Front &nbsp;
Rear &nbsp;
Tank capacity gallons
&nbsp;
ENGINE
V12
Bore &amp; stroke 86.0 x 87.0 mm
Unit displacement n/a cc
Total displacement 6064.0 cc
Compression tatio 10.5:1
Max. power 627 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Max. torque 500 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
DOHC 48 valve
&nbsp;
TRANSMISSION
6 Speed manual &nbsp;
&nbsp;
GENERAL INFORMATION
Price $900,000 - $1,000,000
Production start n/a
Production end n/a Pruduction has stopped
Amout produced 100
&nbsp;
PERFORMANCE
Top speed 231 mph
0-60 mph 3.2 sec.
0-100 mph 6.3 sec.
0-150 mph 12.8 sec.
0-200mph 28.0 sec.
Acceleration g-force n/a
&nbsp;


GEARS:

1st 3.23:1 7.66:1 &nbsp;
2nd 2.19:1 5.19:1 &nbsp;
3rd 1.71:1 4.05:1 &nbsp;
4th 1.39:1 3.29:1 &nbsp;
5th 1.16:1 2.75:1 &nbsp;
6th 0.93 2.20:1 &nbsp;

[Marita]

heres a pic outside...

http://home.swipnet.se/eurenius_design/mclarenf1opendoors.jpg

here is the interior...
http://www.chuh.org/Students/Bram-Lambrecht/cars/cockpit2.jpg

[Marita]

the engine an all-aluminum 6.1-liter, 48-valve, V-12 with developed 627 hp
&quot;The engine and its carbon-fiber airbox are worth a good look before disappearing into the engine bay. Dispite its huge capacite, the engine is only 23.6 in. long and weight 586 lb. with all ancillaries. Magnesium castings are used for the dry sump, the cam carriers and covers, the oil pump and the housing for the variable intakes camshaft timing control. Intake control is by 12 individual butterfly valves, and the exhaust piping is a real work of art. It delivers the exhaust gases into four highly heat-resistant inconel catalysts, each with its own lambda-sond control, befor they reach the huge and very effective muffler. The entire exaust system doubles as a crushable structure in case of rear impact.&quot;



(Edited by Marita at 8:17 am on Jan. 26, 2002)

[Marita]

is there any recent photos of the r390<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

this is all i found...
http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/pr_events/1999/detroit5/r390/imgs/r390_action_lo.jpg

(Edited by Marita at 8:19 am on Jan. 26, 2002)

[sspikey]

qalso when you buy a mclaren F1 it comes with a HUGE tool kit. but i mean a FULL tool kit. you could probably open a shop and use all those tools. but stuff like changing oil on a mclaren is the worst thing ever! its not a do it your self job the whole bottom plate has to be disassembeled and shit like that. but hey you can afford a mclaren F1 im sure you can affor 1000$ oil changes <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Zemus]

http://209.132.49.149/images-large/1998_nissan_r390_gt1-1.jpg

Q Mile in 11.9 Sec

Stats:http://www.supercars.net/cars/[email protected][email protected]$R390%20GT1.html

I Dont think i would be able to choose, if i had a million dollars to spend on a car, would get a skyline and deck it out, IMO

[S13 Passion]

the McLaren engine bay lining is entirely made of gold! &nbsp;ha, thats probably where most of the money goes.

i dont know though, i like both the R390 and the F1. &nbsp;however, for some reason, i like small displacement engines. &nbsp;the nissan has a &nbsp;3.5 V8 compared to the 6.1 V12 and it still has the potential to go as fast as the mclaren. &nbsp; just IMO.

[whateverjames]

i've heard it also comes with 2 56k modems for mclaren's personal navigation system (wish i still had the magazine). it says a regular tuneup costs $17,500. and it comes with a titanium tool kit. so what famous people own F1. does ralph lauren own two, and one of the guys in prodigy owns one.

[s14vaxlr8]

plus you dont even take it to a shop, they fly a guy to you to work on your car that is certified

[Arcane]

it wouldn't matter which one i got because i'd sell it and drop the mil in my s13...gotta stay with that car...it's my heart...

[Marita]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Arcane on 10:14 am on Jan. 26, 2002
it wouldn't matter which one i got because i'd sell it and drop the mil in my s13...gotta stay with that car...it's my heart...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

IMHO, people would get a few other cars or invest it and see that sucker grow...put a mill in your s13<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> yah that'll be the day...i understand u love your s13 with a passion...but look at reality...would u really want to put a mil in your car or get a pimpin house???

[whateverjames]

$1,000,000 in a $5000 car? haha. &nbsp; &nbsp; ya i'd rather buy a house with that money, rather that drive around an over done car that would probably get destroyed in an accident. with a house you could sell it in 10 years and make money off of it.

[Grant]

still my, question is unanswered, does the F1 have a sequential gearbox like the R390? or is it just a regular 6 speed?

[Grant]

hey marita, i coulda sworn the Mclaren had turn signals right under the headlight. is the pic u shown a race version or sometrhing? or is this my imagination?

Anyways I vouch for McLaren because I can fit TWO girls in it! :biggrin:

(Edited by Grant at 1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>7 am on Jan. 27, 2002)

[wasabi]

i would rather get a house than gettin a millin dolla house. &nbsp;id only get one if my name was billy gates, or mr. chumpchainge. &nbsp;even though that can legally be done, i tink i still wont buy those cars. &nbsp; But if i did have to choose between the two, i'd go for McLaren...just for the name, cuz face it... most people who do buy these cars don't even drive them for their built reasons. &nbsp;it jus sits and looks purty at fancy places. &nbsp;destroying one when doing something that you thought you can do easily with that type of car would obviously make ya look like a complete moron. &nbsp;

[wasabi]

i meant id rather get a house than a millin dolla car...oops

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

Hey F1 driving position must confused the owner of No fuck geez can't quite remember, but to say he crashed it, I think 'gutted' would not be the word.


I've heaps of Pitures of the R390, just none on the web,
And this is what I know of the 96' prototype;

VGH35DETT, 3.5 V8 Twin Turbo.
550hp - 570hp @ 6600 rpm
62kgs\m @ 3700 rpm

thats off a website,
but GT2 &nbsp;Got it @
VGH35DETT
390hp
55kg\m
1000ks weight
Tuned up......
833hp
103kg\m
920kgs weight.

goodo, nah still like the R390's engine bay, talk about plumming.

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

Hey ONI, thats a picture of a 97' R390, just look at the rear spoiler, the 98' R390 doesn't have plus 98's are blue. 97's are red.

[idunit]

Is if just me or the F1's interior ugly as ####. &nbsp;It looks like a split bench seat with a baby's booster seat crammed in the middle. &nbsp;I like the nissan.

Ignorance again. &nbsp;The McLaren F1 is a true exotic super-car that is street-legal and has been made with the highest quality components around.

The entire exhaust system, from the manifold to the output muffler is fully titanium. &nbsp;The entire body is made of carbon fiber and people have survived crashes at over 140mph in the McLaren. &nbsp;In terms of layout, everything from the location of the engine, bumpers, and drivers seat were all laid out for performance.

Naaaaaah.. fuck that, who wants a McLaren F1! &nbsp;I'm going to ditch that car and spend a million PLUS on a cheapass street-car made of steel. &nbsp;Some of you insane.. you cant turn a hoe into a housewife.

[drift freaq]

olds13 writes...
Naaaaaah.. fuck that, who wants a McLaren F1! I'm going to ditch that car and spend a million PLUS on a cheapass street-car made of steel. Some of you insane.. you cant turn a hoe into a housewife.

_________________________________

hahahahaha in the producer/engineer world the phrase you can't polish a turd. hahahahahahaha

[Tuck&Poke]

the mclraren f1 is definately the better car. &nbsp;its got a bmw 6064cc all aluminum v12 with 627hp and a manual 6 (not sequentail). &nbsp;fastest official top speed is 231mph but on an unoffical recorded run it did 241mph &nbsp;the entire body and almost all of the car (including the chassis) is carbon fiber. &nbsp;0-60 times are 3.2sec and 0-100 times are 6.3 sec. ameretich and mclaren (in conjunction with bmw for the engines) made the car. &nbsp;Gordon Murray was the disgner and the goal for this car was a street legal f1 car or as close to one as he could get hence the drivers seat in the middle. &nbsp;this is my altime fav. car so if you want the whole story i it id be glad to type it but i wont bore you unless you want me to. &nbsp;they also made a mclaren f1 lm which had only 1 seat. and had 668hp &nbsp;but only achived a top speed of 220mph because of shorter gearing. &nbsp;it was even faster of acclerarating and achived 60 in 3.0sec and the cenntenial mark in 5.9 sec. &nbsp;
no correct me if im wrong but didnt the r390 only have a top speed of 155 or did i confuse this with the molser m9000?

[Tuck&Poke]

oh yea not only that but the mclaren also has a/c and a radio and the r390 only has a radio and lets not forget the fact that the r390 needs 2 turbos to get less hp that an na mclaren....no contest

[Grant]

yeah, I'd rather get a house as well, but think about it, If people could afford a McLaren F1, they could probably afford the house, and the McLaren, AND the R390, dont ya think?

[grahams14]

I've seen a couple of F1's on the road over here and they look UNREAL, like the old Lambo Countach does. Did you know that Mclaren can do diagnostics from the factory on the car via modems fitted in the cars electronic management system. They can also stop/start the motor and switch on/off the lights, wipers etc from the factory using this link!!!!!! I think I'd have the R390 for the rarity value.

wow,
thats crazy technology.
I guess you pay for that
hate to have someone sneaking around my car though

[BlueSix]

It's the F1, hands down.. &nbsp;Understand that I am a HUGE Nissan fan.. &nbsp;But the F1 is just, well, a legend, and DESERVEDLY so...

The R390GTi is an AMAZING car, but if I had to choose I would go to the F1 and never look back!

[Drifting Ricer]

Hmm If I can get a million in my hands I'll start a business (Speed shop maybe) and get more money! Them I build my on dream car. f* buying off already made car at that price. I would steal all the F1 technology and put it in a s14 widebody shell. Yes it would be a twin turbo I6 with a 10,000 redline. I don't care about name just about a performing car. Anyway the f1 should be driven like it was built. Not like some #### soccer Mon.

What does old s13 got to say about that :cool:

[wasabi]

i'd do the same thing D-ricer would do.... heck of a lot smarter than buyin an overpriced car....rather make munneee!!! and get a shinier peice of turd. heeeheee

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

On a funny side; the fastest the a R390 roadcar has gone, 406kmh(243mph), and that was the test car, testing the engine, that can produce 1700hp+, but tested at 671hp LM spec which the 98 cars had on the track, no diss to the F1, but to end some of you comments which can go faster 'unoffically' as there was no 'offical' time keepers persent on the run.
Offical time is around the 200mph mark+\- a few mph, sorry they don't come with goveners as opitions.
0-62 mph is recorded at 3.4 sec, and 10.4 second 1/4.
not slow, #### I buy a 97 and 98, just because chuck some bigger turbo's on it anti-lag, so you could run 45psi, jesus road racing got a hard on.

Full respect to the Mclaren F1(GTR),
Sorry nothing to sub the NISSAN, I will not look back!!!!!!.

[onebadm5]

any car with a record of its constructors numerous racing wins in the door sill has to take my vote.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/McLaren/mf1_sidepod.jpg




yep, that's ///M Power...
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/McLaren/mf1_exhaust.jpg

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/McLaren/mf1_engine_right.jpg

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/McLaren/mf1_engine_left.jpg



(Edited by onebadm5 at 8:12 am on Jan. 28, 2002)

There's nothing wrong with that, EXCEPT.. you cant drive a car with that type of power as it was designed to be driven - ON THE STREETS.

I drive what many people call a shitty SOHC auto around the streets at full volume and everyone I know who rides in my car usually enjoys being rocketed around town. &nbsp;Everyone says it feels like a rollercoaster.

So, it doesnt have a turbo, its not a stick, and it doesnt have an LSD. &nbsp;But thats details for ME to worry about. &nbsp;The bottom line is, when you hit the twisties its not about power.. its about your line and fluidness.

I like the McLaren F1 because it is a full-scale model that has been honed to today's standard of precision and perfection. &nbsp;Its a big toy, nothing else. &nbsp;Unless someone is going to use it for track racing, its just a big full-scale model.. thats it. &nbsp;Same goes with most of the exotic cars.

I like NISSAN and Toyota because they make fairly cost-effective cars that can be driven the way they are designed to be driven. &nbsp;I wouldnt take a Supra and try to compete against a McLaren because its a car made of steel that has a bunch of useless accessories. &nbsp;Its a production car - the McLaren is a specialty car.

I wouldnt take a Civic and try to compare it to the Lotus Elise for the SAME exact reason. &nbsp;Even though the Lotus is exotic, its still pocket change considering its a fun toy that IS streetable.

- Mike


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Drifting Ricer on 12:40 pm on Jan. 27, 2002
Hmm If I can get a million in my hands I'll start a business (Speed shop maybe) and get more money! Them I build my on dream car. f* buying off already made car at that price. I would steal all the F1 technology and put it in a s14 widebody shell. Yes it would be a twin turbo I6 with a 10,000 redline. I don't care about name just about a performing car. Anyway the f1 should be driven like it was built. Not like some #### soccer Mon.

What does old s13 got to say about that :cool:



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[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

Pure Nissan; http://www.conceptcarz.com/views/ShowPic.asp?car_id=692&amp;picID=5630 (http://www.conceptcarz.com/views/ShowPic.asp?car_id=692&picID=5630)
or
http://www.conceptcarz.com/views/ShowPic.asp?car_id=692&amp;picID=5629 (http://www.conceptcarz.com/views/ShowPic.asp?car_id=692&picID=5629)

[Drifting Ricer]

True that old s13.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you can't drive a car with that type of power as it was designed to be driven - ON THE STREETS.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I really meant on the tracks (this is a road legal race car). &nbsp;On the street you can't really do anything. It will be a complete waste if you don't take it to you're local race track and kick some ass! I did see you're videos old s13, and &nbsp;Yeah you're nutz! Anyway the f1 and the 390 are some of the best cars out there right now. Too bad the truly skilled driver can't get them.

[wherezmytofu]

the F1 engine was adapted from the 850 csi engine. before the 850 was suppose 2 be cancled a the new engine...a 6.0 liter doch was suppose 2 be used...but was not excepted because the 850 was cancel because of slow sales.

the only million doller car i would get would be the suzuki escudo pikes peak eersion, any one ever use 2 the in Gt2 god #### it laps ever car in any race and when i tested the 1/4 mile it's 8.4.....a 8.4 second car that has like the best handeling in the game!!!!!!!!
http://www.pebblenet.com/conceptcarz/images/Suzuki/1996_suzuki_escudo_grand_vitara-1.jpg
http://www.pebblenet.com/conceptcarz/images/Suzuki/1996_suzuki_escudo_grand_vitara-2.jpg

[wherezmytofu]

hmmmm...... this Marita person knows her specs...........what car u drive marita?

[Tuck&Poke]

uh who says you cant drive a mclaren on the streets. &nbsp;sure its gonna be kinda hard to keep that touchy thottle and that rock hard clutch from smoothly takin off and keeping under 50mph is gonna be hard with all the thrust and hard to contain your eagerness to floor it. &nbsp;you can drive a mclaren to full potential on the street....its just not legal and youll get fined up the ass.

[Marita]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 pm on Jan. 29, 2002
hmmmm...... this Marita person knows her specs...........what car u drive marita?
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4runner and tacoma trd...

soon the bmw 525i touring wagon with a SC in it

[rubbersidedown]

&quot;fined up the ass&quot;... doesn't paint a pretty picture in my head. kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth ass well

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Marita on 8:40 pm on Jan. 29, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 pm on Jan. 29, 2002
hmmmm...... this Marita person knows her specs...........what car u drive marita?
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4runner and tacoma trd...

soon the bmw 525i touring wagon with a SC in it
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84 850csi &gt; 525i touring and witht he extra cash u can get the turbo or supercharger kit <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>........ ///M8

[Marita]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 pm on Jan. 29, 2002

84 850csi &gt; 525i touring and witht he extra cash u can get the turbo or supercharger kit <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>........ ///M8</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


i wanted the 540i touring wagon but its 20k more for the v8 engine...so since im getting the SC might as well save that 20k and put it in the 525i

[wherezmytofu]

i wanted the new 760il but its about $80k over what i got soooooooooooo............

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Marita on 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>8 pm on Jan. 29, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 pm on Jan. 29, 2002

84 850csi &gt; 525i touring and witht he extra cash u can get the turbo or supercharger kit <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>........ ///M8</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


i wanted the 540i touring wagon but its 20k more for the v8 engine...so since im getting the SC might as well save that 20k and put it in the 525i
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ok wait, let me get this straight....so ur telling me that this
http://members.aol.com/wherezmytofu/m8engine.jpg
which can be upgraded to this
[http://members.aol.com/wherezmytofu/f1.jpg
....doesnt do anything 4 u?
http://members.aol.com/wherezmytofu/850.jpg

[Marita]

thats nice but im a passenger person

[wherezmytofu]

there is a trunk u know <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Marita]

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there is a trunk u know <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


lol...anyways back to the topic...

[Nismos14]

tough choice but i'd want the porsche gt1 for a mill thats the only way i'd spend it

[Grant]

####, if you put the mclaren engine in the 850 wouldnt it look it needs a pro stock hood or something??

[bing]

the president of BMW had a Mcalaren F1 and he fucked it up, it was too expensive to fix so he just let it go...

i'd take the 850 and but a $950,000 house thanks

[Grant]

Hey is it just me or does the escude look like a squashed Suzuki sidekick?

I swear some of you guys need to stop playin video games and learn more about exotics before mouthing off.

When you're building an exotic super street-car like the McLaren F1, price means nothing to you. &nbsp;I know too many people who own really nice cars and still live at home suckling off of mommy and daddy. &nbsp;Those who own a McLaren F1 dont worry about the price, that &nbsp;means nothing to them. &nbsp;The reality is they own more than just a car, or several cars -- they probably own a good chunk of the world. &nbsp;

Anyone lucky enough to see a McLaren is NOT going to say &quot;i'm not impressed.&quot; &nbsp;The reality is, when you see cars like that you'de better have a shopping kart to help you carry your jaw around.. because it'll definately be scraping the floor.

I saw a McLaren a month or two ago in Beverly Hills. &nbsp;Every car around it, wether it was a Corvette, Porsche Turbo, or a Ferrari seemed like a waste of space. &nbsp;Everyone's eyes was focused on ONE thing - that McLaren. &nbsp;Didnt you guys ever see that R33 GT-R or Veilside Supra Turbo race the McLaren F1? &nbsp;Both cars were turned into poo-poo.

[SHIFT]

who here has the fastest normally aspirated ka24 and what does it run

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from old s13 on 11:55 pm on Jan. 29, 2002
I swear some of you guys need to stop playin video games and learn more about exotics before mouthing off.

When you're building an exotic super street-car like the McLaren F1, price means nothing to you. I know too many people who own really nice cars and still live at home suckling off of mommy and daddy. Those who own a McLaren F1 dont worry about the price, that means nothing to them. The reality is they own more than just a car, or several cars -- they probably own a good chunk of the world.

Anyone lucky enough to see a McLaren is NOT going to say &quot;i'm not impressed.&quot; The reality is, when you see cars like that you'de better have a shopping kart to help you carry your jaw around.. because it'll definately be scraping the floor.

I saw a McLaren a month or two ago in Beverly Hills. Every car around it, wether it was a Corvette, Porsche Turbo, or a Ferrari seemed like a waste of space. Everyone's eyes was focused on ONE thing - that McLaren. Didnt you guys ever see that R33 GT-R or Veilside Supra Turbo race the McLaren F1? Both cars were turned into poo-poo.


i've see a modded viper take a mclaren, i've also seen it being raped by a baracuda......drag ofcourse <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

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[drifterx]

MCLEREAN IS BETTER

[Tuck&Poke]

yea and i bet that mclaren is stock too....wonder what would happen if you put a turbo on a mclaren. &nbsp;i hate saying this but old s13 is right &nbsp;the people who own mclarens dont give a crap about money &nbsp;its toilet paper to them. &nbsp;i know of an f50 twin turbo but that pussy is only puttin out 3 psi cause he doesnt wanna crack the engine open to put lower compression pistons. &nbsp;its the creator of doom by the way (the guy who has the f50 tt)