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statik

11-08-2003, 07:54 PM

Well if some of you read my other thread I was looking at a 240 to trade with my 99 impreza RS. I got him to give me 3k and the 240 for my 99 almost stock. Its a 97 240sx with 129k. The motor runs strong, oil is clean, spark plugs look normal, no leaks at all, body is straight, one dent in the passenger rear fender but looks like it can be pulled easy, and the interior is very clean, no rips or cracks. It came with HKS exhaust, tokico shocks(non adjustable), springs(not sure what kind but lowered a bit, not too much), HID's, and a compuSTAR alarm/auto-start. It also came with 300zx front brakes, SS brake lines, metalmaster brake pads and brembo rotors not installed. Now my first issue is the 4lug setup. I wanna do the 5lug conversion, the car doesnt have ABS so whats the quickest solution to this, i wanna get this done asap. What other things should i start with? I was thinking sway bars/strut bars as the car seems to have alot of body roll, but still handles well. Heres a pic after i spent the day stripping the old wax, compounding out some scracthes, re-waxing, and crystal guarding the car. I can honestly say the car looks 20x better.

http://www.teamhpi.org/s14/clean/s_front.jpg

i woudlve taken more pictures of how clean and shiny it was but as u can see it was pretty dark out when i was done, ill take some more tomorrow and upload them.

NZO

11-09-2003, 03:46 AM

Looks great Im sure youll enjoy it!

matlock

11-09-2003, 03:55 AM

Ahhhh I love the kouki front end its so hott :D one of my friends in our little posse has that car basically, and I love it! He has parts up the yin yang on it haha! Good luck with it hope to see some more pics

mistaanime

11-09-2003, 04:00 AM

nice trade..you wont be dissapointed

FRpilot

11-09-2003, 12:15 PM

5 lug on s14.. just go to your local nissan dealer and buy s14 5 lug hubs. thats all you need.

Anubis

11-09-2003, 01:57 PM

S14 ABS blows, buy Z brakes and good pads.

Grant

11-09-2003, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by anubis9228
S14 ABS blows, buy Z brakes and good pads.

I will slap u with 10 salmons :D

He has z brakes already

Anubis

11-09-2003, 02:12 PM

oops i was too lazy to read the whole post:D

statik

11-09-2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by FRpilot
5 lug on s14.. just go to your local nissan dealer and buy s14 5 lug hubs. thats all you need.

so all i need a s14 SE front and rear hubs?

240silvia

11-09-2003, 03:36 PM

take a picture of the HID's. I want to see if they looked like my old ones.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p61c86321a0e738f850daef3715907d44/fa9a140f.jpg

statik

11-09-2003, 05:12 PM

http://teamhpi.org/s14/clean/hid2.jpg

theyre nice, and they look like hids, but for some reason they arent as bright as my sylvania silver stars were on my subaru, i cant see very far down the road without turning on brights, maybe the lights arent positoned right?

zero.counter

11-09-2003, 05:33 PM

Blank out the license plate # bro.

statik

11-09-2003, 08:22 PM

plates are from my old subaru, the car aint on the road, just had to drive it home

WilloW

11-10-2003, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by statik
so all i need a s14 SE front and rear hubs?

That's all you need, check carparts.com for better deals. Dealers will rip you a new asshole.

statik

11-10-2003, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by WilloW
That's all you need, check carparts.com for better deals. Dealers will rip you a new asshole.

i got a quote of 456 for front/rear SE non-abs hubs. sounds good no?

sykikchimp

11-10-2003, 12:58 PM

you can get all 4 hubs used from Junkyards on Carparts.com for under $100.

statik

11-10-2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by sykikchimp
you can get all 4 hubs used from Junkyards on Carparts.com for under $100.

wow damn thats cheap, do they check them out before selling them to you?

KoukiS14

11-11-2003, 01:31 PM

Trust me, you'll LOVE it. :cool:

my Kouki :D

http://home.insightbb.com/~s14_240sx/82103/images/240sx1.jpg

statik

11-11-2003, 01:40 PM

i do! its alot of fun, i cant wait for my damn 5 lugs to get here so i can throw my rims/300zx brakes on, btw apparently the HIDS on my car are the stock hids from a maxima i was told

the240sxer95

11-12-2003, 09:12 AM

basterd! :mad:

now i have to get a s14! that means less money for mods!!!

statik

11-12-2003, 09:34 AM

you know you want one sonny!

KoukiS14

11-12-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by statik
i do! its alot of fun, i cant wait for my damn 5 lugs to get here so i can throw my rims/300zx brakes on, btw apparently the HIDS on my car are the stock hids from a maxima i was told

That's f'n awesome. . How does that HID setup work? I'm looking at goin' for it, but I may end up with this: http://www.hid-online.com/products/kit.asp?id=1

Installed a kit from them on my friend's GTI, and it's just. . very complete. :cool:

97DubTruck

11-12-2003, 11:40 AM

wow we pretty much have the same car except with the suspension and i have abs and limited slip. i have kyb agx's and intrax springs in the front and whiteline springs in the rear so my car is a little lower but yours definitely looks good.:D

statik

11-12-2003, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by KoukiS14
That's f'n awesome. . How does that HID setup work? I'm looking at goin' for it, but I may end up with this: http://www.hid-online.com/products/kit.asp?id=1

Installed a kit from them on my friend's GTI, and it's just. . very complete. :cool:

so far the max hids look great but i think i need to aim them a little higher, ill let you know how it works out, im not sure how its setup tho, ill take a look

statik

11-12-2003, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by 97DubTruck
wow we pretty much have the same car except with the suspension and i have abs and limited slip. i have kyb agx's and intrax springs in the front and whiteline springs in the rear so my car is a little lower but yours definitely looks good.:D

thanks =], im gonna get a limited slip after sway bars/strut bars, and the 5 lugs should be here this friday! I'll take more pics with my rims on it. got any pics of your car?

KoukiS14

11-12-2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by statik
so far the max hids look great but i think i need to aim them a little higher, ill let you know how it works out, im not sure how its setup tho, ill take a look

very :cool:
After the install on my friend's GTI, we needed to aim them quite a bit higher. . contrasts with the last two installs on friend's Maximas. . had to aim them incredibly low to prevent blinding people haha (probably has more to do with the placement of the focal point on the D2 [I believe D2] bulb than anything) . .

Side by side, with both our lights on at night. . I couldn't even SEE mine hitting the pavement once his was on lol
pathetic.

statik

11-12-2003, 07:23 PM

yeah i can def. see a line from the headlights on the ground haha

KoukiS14

11-12-2003, 08:42 PM

Yeah supposedly the already sharp projector beam cutoff is even more pronounced with xenon :cool:

never seen a kouki in person with xenon. . just pics, and those never come out right.

SimpleS14

11-12-2003, 09:44 PM

So you took HID bulbs and ballast from a 2001+ Maxima?

honda2nissan

11-13-2003, 09:57 AM

hey statik,

dont know if you did the 5 lug conversion yet....but i did it in june or so....i had ordered front and rear 5 lug hubs from a SE model from mossy performance. they are a nissan dealership.... the set cost me about $360 or so for new hubs....yeah you can buy cheaper used ones..but i like my stuff new.....anyways you will also need to change the bearings too...the front hubs came with bearings but the rear ones dont...so you will need to buy new ones...they were about $150 a piece...two of those cost almost as much as my set of hubs.....anyways hope this helps you get some pricing down for new stuff. remember these were all new parts!!!

sykikchimp

11-13-2003, 10:07 AM

If you buy the hubs from a junkyard, they will all come with bearings. There really is no need to buy new ones. For the amount of money you spent on all 4 of yours, you could have bought 10 or more from junkyards...

and sometimes when you buy them from junkyards, they send you the entire rear upright, and brake assembly.. This is a good thing if you buy 300zx N/A hubs, and plan to do the uprights later..

statik

11-13-2003, 12:13 PM

my hubs just got here, shit i wish i wouldve known i wouldve orderd them! theres no way i can use rear bearings, even for a little while? BAH

sykikchimp

11-13-2003, 12:16 PM

you bought the hubs new? they don't have bearings in them? (I know he said above the don't, but you have some on hand, and I'm surious if yours do.)

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 12:29 PM

For those of you who have done the 5lug conversion. How many hours does it take to do the fronts and how many hours to do the backs?

Also, if I use the z32 rear aluminum upright, do I have to use z brakes then?

statik

11-13-2003, 01:09 PM

ok so courtesy nissan fucked up my order, they sent me 5lug rear hubs and 4 lug front hubs! AHHHHH so i called them and theyre gonna send them sat. shipping for free and they emailed me the labels to send them the fron hubs back, so i guess i have to wait until sat =[

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 01:15 PM

That sucks. I dont' understand how you can make such a mistake. The car is either 4 or 5 lug, not 4lug front and 5lug rear.

When I ordered my Brembo rotors, the same thing happened, they sent me 4lug fronts and 5lug rears. At least they are sending them to u by Sat. Took me another two weeks to get them to send me the correct rotors. And they never paid me back for shipping. Its their loss, never buying from them and never recommending any of my friends to them.

statik

11-13-2003, 01:18 PM

ok so lets assume sat. they get here and theyre RIGHT this time. what do i need to install them, is there a write up somewhere?

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 01:28 PM

yeah, there is.

If you have a service manual its basically jsut a direct replacement swap. I heard you didn't get the bearings.

You will need your 5lug hubs (with bearings), and tools.

The biggest thing is probably getting the huge axle bolt out. If you have an impact drill, it will be very easy. If not, you may need a friend to help give you enough torque to loosen the dang thing. I didn't have an impact drill, and I was not able to get the axle bolt off.

If you dont' have a service manual, you can try typing 5lug in the search feature. Or I think ther is a FAQ section. I have seen someone do a write up on the 5lug conversion before.

Really, if you just work on it, its a direct swap, should be pretty straight forward.

statik

11-13-2003, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by NinjaGaiden
yeah, there is.

If you have a service manual its basically jsut a direct replacement swap. I heard you didn't get the bearings.

You will need your 5lug hubs (with bearings), and tools.

The biggest thing is probably getting the huge axle bolt out. If you have an impact drill, it will be very easy. If not, you may need a friend to help give you enough torque to loosen the dang thing. I didn't have an impact drill, and I was not able to get the axle bolt off.

If you dont' have a service manual, you can try typing 5lug in the search feature. Or I think ther is a FAQ section. I have seen someone do a write up on the 5lug conversion before.

Really, if you just work on it, its a direct swap, should be pretty straight forward.

ok well the front looks like it ocmes with the bearings but the rear didnt so i had them send them too, do you know waht to torque the bolt to when putting it back on?

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 01:47 PM

Well, I have an S13, and an s13 manual only, but it should be the same numbers.

If you are talking about the axle bolt (the big 36mm one), then it says to torque it to about 140-150FT-lbs. As for the other bolts, I dont' know off the top of my head, but when I go home after work i can look it up. For the bolt on the strut, I remember I torqued it to 80ft-lbs.

Yeah, make sure to torque everything to spec. It would really suck to have any of those parts come loose when you are driving.

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 01:50 PM

I am still waiting for my front hubs to come for my S13. I'm thinking of taking it to the shop to get the conversion done.

If you do yours this weekend, can you tell me how long it took you to do the fronts and rears?

Thanks

statik

11-13-2003, 02:15 PM

sure ill let you know, this may be a stupid question tho, but all i have to do is take off my calipers/rotors, and then unbolt the hub from the axle and pull it off right?

sykikchimp

11-13-2003, 02:21 PM

The rear axle nut has a torque rating of 150-200 ft lbs. the front is only like 120-140ft lbs.

I'm pretty sure the bearings have to be pressed into the rear hubs.. I've never had to deal with it, but I remember reading about it.

Sounds like you need an FSM Statik

sykikchimp

11-13-2003, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by statik
sure ill let you know, this may be a stupid question tho, but all i have to do is take off my calipers/rotors, and then unbolt the hub from the axle and pull it off right?

On the front, the spindle nut comes off, and the hub slides off a spindle. In the rear, you take off the axle nut, then remove 4 bolts from the back of the hub. They hold the hub to the upright. You'll need to spin the hub just a little so that you can access the bolts from behind the upright. Then it's just a matter of getting the axle out of the inside of the hub. If it doesn't slip off (the never do) spray some pb blaster, or pour some coke on the axle where it goes into the hub, and let it sit for a bit.. put the axle nut back on but leave it so that the threads on the end of the axle are protected by the nut. Get a Big Hammer (preferably dead blow) and wack the crap out of it. IF that doesn't work, go to autozone and rent a hub puller.

The rears are the real bitch.

statik

11-13-2003, 02:37 PM

i could use a FSM, will a haynes do for now? ive used them before and they've helped alot so i guess its better than nothing

starfireS14

11-13-2003, 03:24 PM

Nice car im interested in getting some HID's too just not sure which brand to get.

statik

11-13-2003, 04:57 PM

im not even sure where he got these(stock maximas) but theyre nice, i like them alot

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 07:45 PM

www.neteasier.com/240sxfsm.zip

here statik

I'd recommend buying a FSM. But for now, you can use this. Found it somewhere else on this forum.

statik

11-13-2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by NinjaGaiden
www.neteasier.com/240sxfsm.zip

here statik

I'd recommend buying a FSM. But for now, you can use this. Found it somewhere else on this forum.

thanks alot, ok so my friend just pointed something out to me, when i go 5 lug, i have no rotors for my rear brakes! I have the Z conversion for the front, but i only have rotors/pads/ss lines for the rear, so i have to either a.) scramble tomorrow through junkyards to find all the parts for the rear Z swap, or b.) find some rear s14se rotors

id rather do the rear Z swap since i dont wanna buy rotors for the rear that wont stay on long, im gonna look now but has anyone here done the rear conversion? i know i need more than just the calipers/rotors, i believe i need some e-brake parts?

NinjaGaiden

11-13-2003, 11:42 PM

this is an awesome article for the z brake swap

http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm

statik

11-15-2003, 01:06 PM

well after overnighting parts TWICE, finally getting everything this morning, i open the brembo rotors that came with the car and what a surprise, 5 lug in the front, 4 lug in the rear. No one has 5 lug rotors in stock near me either. i cant believe i didnt see the rear rotors where 4 lug. :mad:

NinjaGaiden

11-15-2003, 06:49 PM

wow. that is the same thing that happened to me, but I had 4 lugs in the front. Who did you get them from?

statik

11-16-2003, 12:25 AM

Im not sure where, the guy who sold me the car had them already. OK so here goes a bit of a rant. We decided to drill the rotors, so my friend made a make shift rotor alignment tool and using the front 5 lug as a pattern we drilled the rear rotors for the 5 lugs. They came out perfect. So we went ahead with the install and after ALOT of running around finally we had everything we needed to install them. The front hubs were a piece of cake, the rear hubs were a bit more trouble because of the bearings but they came off fairly easy as well. So everything is on and im just putting the rear brakes back on when my friend working on the front brakes tells me hes done and hes throwing on a wheel. Well what a shock the wheels dont clear the Z brakes =[ luckily my friend has spare 300zx rims for me to use for now. Obviously my POS rims werent the right size, so now i need to buy a new pair. Does anyone know what kinda rims will clear the Z brakes? im guessing any rims for a 300zx. Any ideas on what rims I should get? Oh and i have many many pictures that i will include in a small write up of this adventure. Besides the surprises i think the install was real easy, the rear brakes are a BITCH tho, really hard to get them back on, but id say if my rims had fit and i was prepared for everything it wouldve probably taken about 4 hours total with me and my 2 friends to swap the 5 lugs/Z brakes.
Total time: 9 hours

NinjaGaiden

11-16-2003, 12:34 AM

cool, thanks statik. That would be awesome if you do the write up. I guess I'll probably do the fronts and maybe take the rears to a shop.

statik

11-16-2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by NinjaGaiden
cool, thanks statik. That would be awesome if you do the write up. I guess I'll probably do the fronts and maybe take the rears to a shop.

why would you take the rears to a shop? soak them with WD40 for awhile and they come out with minimal effort, dont soak them and ur gonna shit your pants

NinjaGaiden

11-16-2003, 11:18 AM

yeah, i'm shittin my pants right now trying to get bolts off:mad:

not only that, but my 1/2inch 1.5foot wrench is starting to bend, and I have to put a towel over it just incase it snaps. I'll try soaking it in WD-40 (have been spraying a lot of WD-40, but maybe it needs to be soaked overnight)

Thanks

statik

11-16-2003, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by NinjaGaiden
yeah, i'm shittin my pants right now trying to get bolts off:mad:

not only that, but my 1/2inch 1.5foot wrench is starting to bend, and I have to put a towel over it just incase it snaps. I'll try soaking it in WD-40 (have been spraying a lot of WD-40, but maybe it needs to be soaked overnight)

Thanks

ok WD40 sucks, use liquid wrench, i soaked them for about an hour and it came off, also make sure your using REAL tools, i.e. craftsman, husky, snapon, or else it WILL snap, the bolts are on thre really good, but if u soak them with liquid wrench it comes off pretty easy. Im about to post some pics, just need to shower after throwing on the Z rims on my car.