coilover different on each side (pics)

[jamg]

can anyone tell me as to why the right side of the coilover is angled differently from the left?

i got an alignment for - camber, and the attached pics were the result.

when i take hard left turns, my from tension brace will scrape the ground. hard right turns are fine.

as you can see, there is much more of an opening on the right coilover.

wat do?

[ManoNegra]

the allen bolts on the camber plate
usually have a few holes they can thread on
typically they can be moved around to avoid hitting the
strut tower when setting camber
other than that your camber looks to be a little off
according to the markings on the plates
what's you camber set at according to the alignment place?

[ocn]

has your car had any type of hard impact on the front of the vehicle because it could be a tweaked sub frame or frame, i ask because you camber should not have that big of a difference with an alignment .. happen to me b4 from a touge accident in my FC.

[jamg]

just trying to figure out as to why the opening on the passenger side is so much more compared to the divers side.

and this is after an alignment.

the allen bolts on the camber plate
usually have a few holes they can thread on
typically they can be moved around to avoid hitting the
strut tower when setting camber
other than that your camber looks to be a little off
according to the markings on the plates
what's you camber set at according to the alignment place?

he actually had to move the right side more than the left.
both allen bolts have been moved on both sides, 1 hole inwards to avoid the strut tower like you said.

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has your car had any type of hard impact on the front of the vehicle because it could be a tweaked sub frame or frame, i ask because you camber should not have that big of a difference with an alignment .. happen to me b4 from a touge accident in my FC.

not that i know of.

when i straight up installed the coils for the first time, i noticed that when i bolted down, the passenger side coil had a different angle of how it sat.

the drivers side was fine. i tried to make changes to the tension rod to make the passenger side sit straight, but was unable to.

[Steinkrunk]

Do the coilovers have camber adjustment where they mount to the spindle? Some coilovers have an oval for the top hole so you can get alittle more camber out of em. Maybe one side is pulled out and the other is pushed in, resulting in you having to tweak the camber more with the top plates.

I know this might sound crazy but did you ask the shop? If you pay to have something done and aren't happy with the result why not ask them. Maybe they effed up or maybe your shit is effed up. Either way there's a simple solution.

[rat240]

Did they corner balance it
One side might be higher than the other

[ocn]

also seeing how you are scrapping your tension arm.. the damping may be off or when you installed the coilovers did you back the the lock rings for the spring all the way up flush with the plate with you hands then lock it in place.. sounds like the rate might be off if on was lower then the other.. you dont want any play in the spring when no weight is applied.

[ocn]

Did they corner balance it
One side might be higher than the other

thats what im thinking

[jamg]

did not corner balance it.

so i had this problem even before i installed my coilovers?

there was a set of ISIS coils at the time, i took them off and installed mine, but i dont feel like a corner balance is the problem if the coilover install was different.

[N2HIFI]

The side with the most camber added probabley has a bent/tweaked control arm from hitting a curb by you OR the previous owner. I smacked a curb awhile back due to ice I broke my tension rod and thought that was the only problem until I got it realigned. When I got my car back the settings were almost identical to that of yours. I also started snapping inner tie rods at drift events from over centering the rack due to the control arm being bad. I replaced the control arm, camber is back to normal and no mire tie rod issues.

That's my opinion hope it helps

[JaeTea]

I'm almost positive mine are like this. I figured it was just normal for an S chassis.

The drivers side is in more than the passenger. Alignment and ride height adjusted.

Never been in an accident, no bent suspension parts.

:confused:

[OBEEWON]

did they adjust camber at the knuckle?

[jamg]

I'm at the point to where I feel like its normal. For a s13 to be like because of its age lol. Its a pos.

They unbolted the allen bolts and adjusted the camber

[jamg]

From just thinkinh about the geometry, its pretty simple to see the peoblem.

The whole hub assembly is somehow pushed up forward, thus the strut on the coilover itself has to sit up farther at a different angle.cause of that problem? That's the question.

[Couped_up'd]

did they adjust camber at the knuckle?

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[ryandriftingfat]

+1 for camber on the knuckle. Happened to me the first time I installed coilovers. I noticed it before I got to the alignment shop and realized my mistake so I fixed it before I paid for the alignment.

Loosen the two bolts connecting the spindle to the coilover bottom and pull the top of the spindle out as far as you can. Or if you want more camber, push it in as far as it will go. Then use the top camber plates to fine tune your camber.

[OBEEWON]

I'm at the point to where I feel like its normal. For a s13 to be like because of its age lol. Its a pos.

They unbolted the allen bolts and adjusted the camber


Heres your prob 100%

[jamg]

the coilover isn't sitting on the right angle and position, when i turn and the weight transfers to that side, it's already angled more parallel to the ground, thus my tension brace will scrape.

straightening it out- i have no idea what to do. the previous set of coils did the same.

+1 for camber on the knuckle. Happened to me the first time I installed coilovers. I noticed it before I got to the alignment shop and realized my mistake so I fixed it before I paid for the alignment.
my strut position has been altered thus why i scrape the ground when i turn.




Loosen the two bolts connecting the spindle to the coilover bottom and pull the top of the spindle out as far as you can. Or if you want more camber, push it in as far as it will go. Then use the top camber plates to fine tune your camber.

i did that when i installed the coils.

i remember putting both bolts in, and it being able to move back and forth before i tighten them down.

i pulled it out as much as i could before putting on the nuts. from the view up top, the coilover still sat down at an angle.

Heres your prob 100%

what would i have to do?

[OBEEWON]

Edit:

Exactly what ryandevilhorns said.

I suggest pushing them all the way in and adjusting camber at the plates as that will help correct positive camber and driving on your outside sidewall at full lock. I even slotted my coil brackets another 3/4 inch. Made a world of difference.

But if its just a daily driver don't worry about that.

[JaeTea]

If the alignment is to spec why does it even matter?

[OBEEWON]

It's actually not.

If you are not driving hard it wont matter, but if you are you will feel a difference.

Your struts are at different angles right now.

Like I said before, if its a daily driver and that's it dont worry about it. Just drive.

[JaeTea]

I wonder if this is why I've been bending tie rod ends after every drift event..

[Hashiriya415]

First the height should be checked. Then start looking at your caster and SAI, and last make your camber adjustment. Those caster and SAI will determine how your upper plate sits and the camber you will get. Assuming you have no bent lower control arm to start with, you should be able to fix this problem.

[jamg]

it is my DD, but i still want to get it right.

first drift even was about 2 weeks ago, and when i was drifting to the left, granted that i wasn't good, the passenger side tension brace continually scrapped the ground as i was sliding.

i dont think it's the camber of the knuckle

but the whole position of where the knuckle actually is, and where the coilover connects to it.

that whole side is shifted up, thus the coilover is more angled to be parallel to the ground than it should be.

tech guy at the drift event said the same thing about it. he saw that it was different and that during heavy load, the stress on teh strut will be different than that of the other good side. i just told him that it was after the alignment.

[JaeTea]

Sounds like the ride height is uneven or one side has more preload than the other.

[jamg]

Sounds like the ride height is uneven or one side has more preload than the other.
i adjusted the height, it's the same before i installed it.

i dont think preload would have to do anything with where it actually connects to the knuckle that seems to be pushed out forward more.

[JaeTea]

Can you get a pic of where it connects to the knuckle?

Check your ride height again.

[jamg]

Can you get a pic of where it connects to the knuckle?

Check your ride height again.
will do when i take my wheel off.

alright

[s13_coupekilla]

Check ride height and adjust camber to be neutral then go negative make sure both sides are off the ground and the camber is dialed in equal on both sides.. Take tape measure check ride height then finish bolting everything back up take car for drive. Thats what i say.