MAX USA S15 2011 refresh

[DC Dan MAX USA]

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We're prepping for the new look that will debut at All Star Bash 2011 with the new Vertex Edge wide body kit from Vertex USA. Color will be Kustom Shop - Hod Rod Flatz - Gun Smoke Metallic.
We have added a crash bar and support brackets since everything is fiberglass now. Also deleted OEM latch by using the aero catch and simplified the bars that block the radiator and MAX High Mount Intercooler Kit.

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wire tuck - this is what every lowered nissan should have, but most people get half way there by putting the wires above the lip only to rub through the wires where they wrap over the corner of the frame. To solve this we just cut the corner of the metal where the bundle goes from the underside to the topside, and thats the last time you have to worry about it.

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[Dustxking]

Looks mean i really like that vertex and that wing on the back.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

the trunk wing is DMAX which is about a inch short on each side after the wide body, so we are fixing that. I also bought a roof wing from them but it fit so badly its is really unfixable. The fit of the vertex parts is superb, lots of little brackets built in underneath that you cant see in these pix help to strengthen everything & not flop around. Even the underside of the hood is beautiful.

[nathanong87]

In for the gangbang

[daftphunk]

I like what you did with the wire right there. I was actually planning on doing something like that to my car the other day since I didn't want to extend my harness and run it through the bay cause it's ugly.

I think I am going to do that today.

[thefro526]

Totally stealing that wire routing trick.

Also, I hope that ride height is temporary. It's no where near low enough for a PSM car. :D

[T.O.D.]

Looking good! Wanna see how that color turns out

[Hoffman5982]

I hope you are going with a different wheel setup. Those wheels just seem to small

[irax]

So you finally went wide body huh?

[markapple0507]

dayum. i don't understand what you meant on the wiretuck. moar pictures of it please :-) and good luck

[punxva]

looks amazing, i'm really interested to see what wheels you are going with

[EjMalernee]

This car is sick. I too am stealing that wire tuck idea. thanks :bow:

[vtund777]

I love how clean and simple you made the front crash bar and brackets. I can't wait to see this car painted. The new vertex looks pretty good. I like the front bumper design. Any front shots?

[IntensePower]

GD that S15 is ridiculous!!!!!

Huge thumbs up on the crash bar as well...

Kudos guys, gonna be a beautiful car!!!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

dayum. i don't understand what you meant on the wiretuck. moar pictures of it please :-) and good luck
if you did exactly the same thing without cutting metal, your tire will still rub through it
so its all about the cut to get it away from the tire, alternatively you could extend each and every wire in there..... but just cut the metal and you dont have to do any wiring.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I love how clean and simple you made the front crash bar and brackets. I can't wait to see this car painted. The new vertex looks pretty good. I like the front bumper design. Any front shots?

I cant get it on the trailer if there were a lower horizontal bar, and it needs to bend to absorb some impact, so it has to be simple. & a replacement just bolts on

[Om1kron]

Bro, you may have to hold me back from fapping on this in person.

[NNOCENT]

i have a feeling this is going to turn into an epic thread.

excellent work!

please remember to update this thread with progress pics!

[95KA-Turbo]

Awesome! I can't wait to see it out of paint all done up!

[chiboy002]

nice posi camber lol

looks niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee cant wait

[pandaroo]

hmmm flat paint ey? sounds interesting.

[kalypso123]

wheel fitment fail :/

[irax]

wheel fitment fail :/

calm down, he JUST finished putting the body kit on :goyou:

[Matej]

Cool beans. :)

[mulinmoua]

Loving the vertex

[wannabdr1ftr]

Insane! That wire tuck is a great idea.

[Speed Junky]

Nice, can't wait til it's complete.

[bigs]

Nom nom nommmmm

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Haha glad to see you guys are on your toes. Yes the rear has positive camber in the photo and the front is like -5. Basically these are the old rather extreme settings dictated by the typical limitations, max camber in the front was needed because that's what gives the most contact patch at full lock. The rear was set positive so that when the car is burning tires on the gas the squat combines with typical lowered car mega camber gain in compression to get perfect tire wear and traction.

Photo also does not have final ride height set.

Now we have equipped the car with some new tools to fight the typical limitations. For the front, the car has just been equipped with MAX pro coilovers with caster adjustable top plates. When we can pull caster out of the top instead of just using the tension rod, we can maintain the wheel position in the wheel well while reducing camber. Less caster means a flatter contact patch at crazy steering angles. That means that we can reduce the static camber and increase braking ability and high speed stability while maintaining great traction at full lock.

For the rear we are using the new Parts Shop MAX drop knuckle which gives a much more linear rear tire path upon compression. It also improves the roll center and handling geometry together with the MAX subframe riser. That new more vertical rear tire path together with a move from 225 to 255 width is the reason the wide body was needed.

I'm sure the final settings and fitment will be quite nice since we will have full control of the track width utilizing the MAX front and rear lower control arms that are making their debut on this car. I'm sure looking forward to the performance results at ASB.

[Marcus]

Well im hyped. I love the edge s15 kit. Are new wheels in the future? I think some te37 superlaps would fit this nicely. Color as well as size. 18x11s. :D. Just sayin

[HYPNOTIK]

Looks great! I'm taking some of your ideas.

[gorillas13]

When will the rear drop knuckles be available?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Well im hyped. I love the edge s15 kit. Are new wheels in the future? I think some te37 superlaps would fit this nicely. Color as well as size. 18x11s. :D. Just sayin

I'll run these wheels at the event because its all I have for now but maybe I'll do some 3 piece wheels in the future. I don't think I'd change to another 1 piece wheel but your suggestion has a weight advantage. These are 18x10 in the rear so maybe x12 would be best.

There will be some information posted soon regarding price and availability on the 2011 multilink and knuckles.

[CamryOnBronze]

Looking good! I've got some S15 Ganadors I might be letting go of if you guys are interested. :)

[JDMStanced]

i whanta bee spponssored buy PBM!! :)

[PoorMans180SX]

i whanta bee spponssored buy PBM!! :)

You should probably get their name right then.

[JDMStanced]

PBM=powered by max
no? lol

[thefro526]

PBM=powered by max
no? lol

Technically, the correct name is 'Parts Shop Max'.

Most people use the names interchangeably though.

[DJDANGER24]

PBM=powered by max
no? lolYou're both right, but who gives a fuck. Dan is the Man!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I dont care, I'm just happy when MAX is a topic of conversation weather its making reference to the web address poweredbymax.net or the company name Parts Shop MAX or PBM or PSM seems that everyone knows what you are talking about either way. It is funny hearing the guys in the shop snicker about it when someone rolls up to Dave at formula D and is like hey you're from PBM? Dave's like um..... yes.
We never use the acronym, we just say MAX for short. The acronym is a phenomenon of its own like LOL, lol.

masked the car up
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The wing was extended to match the new quarter panels with surf board foam, wrapped in glass, finished in bondo & primer
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underside of the hood is painted & looking beautiful
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half of the car painted
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here you can really see the detail of this flat paint. Its not really flat like primer but instead has a satin finish and the metallic comes out in the sun upon closer inspection but is overall very understated which should be a good balance to the crazy aero
final result should be like a fighter jet look combining big vents and flat paint
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This is the remainder of the aero that is getting painted today. You can see we reinforced the mounting points and cleaned up the seams but we are not body working and priming the entire surface, its just not a show car.
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This paint is quick to spray, its a single stage, goes on in two coats, leaves the shop pretty clean compared to normal 2 stage, and its way better on your health than spraying clear.

[wannabdr1ftr]

Color looks great!

[toplevel]

wow! looks great, can't wait to see it all painted!

[tricky_ab]

I'm down for any type of S15 love! And this is going to be AMAZING once it's completed! :)

[G5SR20240]

Looks good! I need to come by and check it out

[snoops14]

Dan, Jesse and I are going to crash into this thing at ASB just like we crashed at the demo a couple weeks ago hahaha just kidding!!! looks great man

[Dek-Thai]

sick build

[Dustxking]

Love it how fast this is getting done!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Part of this refresh is to debut the 2011 PRO Coilovers and Multilink.

here are some never seen before original parts making an appearance on this S15 (as mentioned in the advertisers announcements section)

After tons of hard work and testing:
Im proud to present the first amazing pieces of the 2011 Parts shop MAX PRO multilink - RUCA - Rear Upper Control Arms
Price is $250/pair, arrival is end of July
~ lifetime manufacturers defect warranty
~ 4 Year free pillowball replacement
~ Forged Clamping rod end receiver
~ Forged Clamping double threaded adjuster
~ Lock Nuts make triple sure your adjustments never come loose again
~ Forged super long rod end has the most thread overlap and more adjustability than anything on the market
~ Bell shaped high surface area pillowball side spacers reinforce subframe mount & give freedom of PB motion
~ 5mm thick mounting bracket
~ Copper and Gold plated finish
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2011 Parts shop MAX PRO multilink - FLCA - Front Lower Control Arms With Tension Rod Set
Price is $550/set, arrival is end of July
~ lifetime manufacturers defect warranty
~ 4 Year free pillowball replacement
~ Thick all steel tubular arm/rod
~ Teflon lined spherical bearings in all 6 joints
~ Forged Clamping rod end receiver
~ Forged Clamping lock nuts make double sure your settings never come loose
~ Forged super long rod ends have the most thread overlap and more adjustability than anything on the market
~ CrMo taper rod is available in custom lengths so you can CONTROL YOUR ROLL CENTER / BUMP STEER
~ Integrated tension and lower control arm for much more strength than the OEM style 2 bolt flat bracket connection
~ Bell shaped high surface area pillowball side spacers reinforce subframe mount & give freedom of PB motion
~ Taper wall bearing housing for max misalignment
~ Laser cut double position sway bar bracket & gusseted heavy duty tension rod bracket
~ Copper and Gold plated finish

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2011 Parts shop MAX PRO multilink - RLCA - Rear Lower Control Arms
Price is $550/pair, arrival is end of July
~ lifetime manufacturers defect warranty
~ 4 Year free pillowball replacement
~ All steel tubular construction
~ Teflon lined spherical bearings in all 6 joints
~ Forged Clamping rod end receiver
~ Forged Clamping lock nut makes double sure your settings never come loose
~ Forged super long rod end has the most thread overlap and more adjustability than anything on the market
~ CrMo taper rod is available in custom lengths so you can control your camber gain
~ Low profile perimeter allows for wider wheels than the stock RLCA
~ Bell shaped high surface area pillowball side spacers reinforce subframe mount & give freedom of PB motion
~ Taper wall bearing housing for max misalignment
~ Laser cut sway bar bracket
~ Dimple die gusset panel
~ Copper and Gold plated finish

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I will be taking pre-orders on this initial limited run and I will give all the early adopters free shipping! Paypal [email protected] with item description and your ship to information in the message to recipient.

[Tearlessj]

Just shit myself, Money ready.

[Mikey McFly]

So my girlfriend walks in the room as I was looking at the new gear coming and, well...

I never slammed shut my laptop that fast before. o_o
It was as if I was gonna get caught looking at porn or something. >_<
Hahaha...

Those parts are like sex though. Can we say "Overtime"?

[LayNLow]

Damn Judd, wheres the money coming from, and can I have some? :naughty: :P
Dan, BALLER products for 2011!! My wallet is not going to like it when I purchase front knuckles and LCA's. Wont be too soon unless I get a job change, which may happen. We will see.
Love the shift knob too!! Just have to fix my car so I can drive it now. Traded some paint at the last event and broke some stuff. Should be drivable first part of next week.
Anyway, you guys are stepping your products up and I love it!

Quick question though about the FLCA's. Are the shanks tapered for S13 or S14 spindles? Since they are different and all.

[godrifttoday]

1350 part listed + 1500 max coils ... Dam!! More than some 240sx lol... Nice ! Can u get the arms color a different color?

[PoorMans180SX]

My suspension dreams have come true.

[wannabdr1ftr]

Those are some nice looking parts.

[Freddy]

Thank god i bummed up my credit card limit

never mind pm'ed

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Are the shanks tapered for S13 or S14 spindles?
Of course we will provide fitment on 13's and 14's.
1350 part listed + 1500 max coils ... Dam!! More than some 240sx lol... Nice ! Can u get the arms color a different color?
Yes, it's not hard to have parts worth more than a 21 year old $800 240sx and the PRO multilink is designed to be the best of the best...but these MAX PRO FLCA's for example are still way cheaper at $550 than say Ikeya formula FLCA's at $1000 and we have unbeatable features and warranty.
The PRO colors are set. It's actually very difficult to plate these complex parts but I think we have it down.
Don't get discouraged or run out and buy shitty links if this does not seem affordable to you because we are currently developing a line of multilink that will be slotted below the PRO multilink in price and features but without compromising quality.
Just shit myself, Money ready.
I am giving free shipping to the first 30 customers on the PRO multilink. Paypal [email protected] with product description and ship to information in the message to recipient.
My suspension dreams have come true.
That's probably the nicest compliment I've ever had.

[Breaker]

skeet skeet. Look's good!

[tricky_ab]

I've been holding out to see what new parts you guys were planning to release...After seeing those pictures....

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[ka-titties]

that s15 will handle excellently, i think.

[ManoNegra]

Are the crash bars a production item?
Will there be or is there one for a kouki s14?

[godrifttoday]

[QUOTE=DC Dan MAX USA;4123571]Of course we will provide fitment on 13's and 14's.

Yes, it's not hard to have parts worth more than a 21 year old $800 240sx and the PRO multilink is designed to be the best of the best...but these MAX PRO FLCA's for example are still way cheaper at $550 than say Ikeya formula FLCA's at $1000 and we have unbeatable features and warranty.
The PRO colors are set. It's actually very difficult to plate these complex parts but I think we have it down.
Don't get discouraged or run out and buy shitty links if this does not seem affordable to you because we are currently developing a line of multilink that will be slotted below the PRO multilink in price and features but without compromising /QUOTE]

Lol not at all!! I'm just saying about the prices ucan easily spend 3-4k on some suspension pieces... I can imagine the price for the sweet knuckle u guys will bring out soon ... But if I guess I will say 750-900 bucks! ... But never the less awesome parts! Any info for front knuckles?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Are the crash bars a production item?
Will there be or is there one for a kouki s14?
Seems that there is too many variables/obstacles.

~ FMIC
~ Type of bumper
~ If that 16-21 year old car is straight (and if the one we are mocking up on is straight)
~ Shipping cost or joints to break it down is going to drive the cost up.

Also we cut off the frame rails and welded in a flat panel to have the surface area needed to support this crash bar and to have the ability to bolt on

SO

If you have to do some fabrication to get this to work / address above variables why not avoid the additional costs and have a local fabricator make the whole thing?

We will certainly make this type of thing for local customers but producing a bolt on unit seems to be trouble.

Any info for front knuckles?
Our front knuckle mod that is equipped on this car is tried and true, $250 for the parts only kit, $400 with labor (including OEM FLCA reinforcement & new bump stop) + $150 extra for the roll center mod.
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Alternatively if you have our FLCA you have the choice of going without the roll center mod and solving that problem with an extended taper rod.

[ManoNegra]

Seems that there is too many variables/obstacles.

~ FMIC
~ Type of bumper
~ If that 16-21 year old car is straight (and if the one we are mocking up on is straight)
~ Shipping cost or joints to break it down is going to drive the cost up.

Also we cut off the frame rails and welded in a flat panel to have the surface area needed to support this crash bar and to have the ability to bolt on

SO

If you have to do some fabrication to get this to work / address above variables why not avoid the additional costs and have a local fabricator make the whole thing?


gotcha
the pic makes it look like a production item
thanks for the quick response though

[DC Dan MAX USA]

lights, hood, fenders, rear bumper installed, 2011 prototype toe rods made for testing with other new PRO multilink.

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[dopplganger1]

Damn the warranty on the new arms is amazing! keep up the good work. its funny how no one will be all over you guys for having a similar locking design as SPL

[irax]

that rear toe looks soo good it scares me

[BOXCAR]

Looking pretty awesome, any plans to paint the rear vent area a satin black?

[pincheturbo]

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[tricky_ab]

Man I love that colour! Seeing the kit on is soooooooooo dreamy :drool: I'm diggin' the new toe rods as well. I can tell it's going to be an expensive summer for me HAHA!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Damn the warranty on the new arms is amazing! keep up the good work. its funny how no one will be all over you guys for having a similar locking design as SPL

I don't really understand what you mean. SPL has 4 slits cut in the adjuster and some separate hose clamp looking thing wrapped around it. Our design is a one piece forged steel clamping rod end receiver. With forged clamping nuts or 1 piece forged double adjuster which is unique.
We have more similarity to trophy truck pro off road parts only those are cast steel not forged.

Looking pretty awesome, any plans to paint the rear vent area a satin black?
Yes that's the plan.

[PoorMans180SX]

New toe rod design is the hotness. The car is not soo bad either :)

[nathanong87]

this might sound dumb as hell, but how do u asjust those adjusters. like what tool do u use to spin that thing as there is one side that has those lock bolts.

[thefro526]

Dan, the more I see pictures of your new adjuster, the more impressed I am with it's design. It looks like it's a complete pain in the ass to make but I'm sure it's strong as all hell.

this might sound dumb as hell, but how do u asjust those adjusters. like what tool do u use to spin that thing as there is one side that has those lock bolts.

Looks like you should be able to get an open ended wrench on the side that doesn't have the locking bolt - but I may be mistaken.

[nightsauce]

Must not fap!!! Those parts look amazing, AND i just started a good paying job....by the release in July, I'm going full PBM suspension :]

[irritatedmax]

Props on continuously putting out new unique parts.

S15 Edge is reeeeaaaaaallllll good looking. XD9s getting painted another color? They are too matchy matchy to the body color.

[Marcus]

im in for a pair of the toe arms.

[ZeroNine]

omg dan you asshole.

[T.O.D.]

That Grey turned out perfect :faint:

[irax]

I think its time you paint the engine bay gold or orange,

[turtle m3th]

You've had better ideas IB.... Looking great guys! Really diggin the paint.

[nathanong87]

Looks like you should be able to get an open ended wrench on the side that doesn't have the locking bolt - but I may be mistaken.

I figured that as well but at some point the side intended for that wrench will be facing up toward the chassis and it would appear to be hella inconvenient

[thefro526]

I figured that as well but at some point the side intended for that wrench will be facing up toward the chassis and it would appear to be hella inconvenient

Hmm, very true. Maybe there's some sort of trick to it?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

wow this was a long day, here is the results

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last step was painting the bottom vents black
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heres all the steps we took to get there:

Remote filter/cooler adapter installation w/ EVDM senders & -10AN lines
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welded up 6 foot ramps for keeping the bumper on while driving on the trailer
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Installed plenty of beautiful new PRO suspension gear
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Its always a thrill to have a look at the super massive steering angle this car has
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spend quite a while perfecting the alignment, and ride height, and fitment
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1309580269_2_FT8497_dsc02659.jpg
Some people may think its not a good look having reverse rake, but we have ran a lot of different settings before and wanted to try the Nakamura / Team burst spec backwards entry setup for this event.
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1309580269_2_FT8497_dsc02663.jpg
Im looking forward to tomorrow, should be lots of fun, and im really pleased with the way everything came together.

One interesting thing is that the front has 30mm spacers on and is still a little sunk while the rear has no spacers, and hella flush fitment. Thats a testament to the range of adjustment this new MAX PRO multilink setup has.

[turtle m3th]

Came out amazing Dan! Glad to see you guys gave the 15 some tlc cause it was lookin a little haggered, haha! Can we get anymore info on the paint you used? It looks amazing...

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Kustom shop - Hot Rod Flatz

its a single stage paint, pretty cheap and easy compared to most options

[Hoffman5982]

Holy cock fuck...Forgot my previous comment about the wheels. This car looks amazing, and those arms look insanely nice

[ill.]

Sorry if you've answered this a hundred times over, but when are the rest of the multilink available?

Like Toe & Traction?

[Jerrys14q]

wow beautiful i love the suspension pics
I got a new wall paper and its the steering angel picture
cant wait to see the car on Sunday

[Drifting-pedobear]

ok, time for non LOP wheels.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Toe traction and tension rods for OEM LCA - end of august or beginning of sept.

[wannabdr1ftr]

so beautiful...I cant wait to order some Max suspension stuff.

[808drft]

damn hella clean s15 Dan!! I got the sak but now I want Max pro suspension. gotta save up! lol

[RurouniMidnight]

I had some doubt, but this thing came out pretty sick looking nice job guys. I'll be waiting for those z33 knuckles.

[Marcus]

PLEASE RETURN THIS CAR SAFELY!!! haha. id hate to not have it last for less than 24 hours.

[udon!]

It looks like a JDM.

[PoorMans180SX]

Are you planning on running a front swaybar? The clearance looks pretty close.

[Z33dori]

BONARS!


Dan you guys are killing the game with that shit son. Loving the new look. Can't wait for more 2011 release parts

[KansaiDrifter]

Yeah looks great! I was skeptical at first on the flat gunmetal/grey but all together it's not bad.

I'm also excited to get the full 2011 gear for Pro-Am 2012 haha

[bigs]

Good lord that looks incredible. Love it!

[GripTerror]

oh man... the car is the most amazing s chassis car ive ever seen, i mean parts wise it looks beautiful sure but even the bodykit and choice of color and its' execution; just brilliant

[Edgar]

looking good bros

[SoCal-s130]

Looked way better in person at ASB.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

PLEASE RETURN THIS CAR SAFELY!!! haha. id hate to not have it last for less than 24 hours.
Car is fine, as for the random S13 axles (i didn't know was in there), not so good due to the widebody suspension settings. I destroyed too many axles and wasted all day saturday rebuilding and swapping some random spares. Sunday I got a little taste of the action thanks to Matt Field's correct spare axle. Here's a YT vid I found:
FUUH5NrTZF8
Are you planning on running a front swaybar? The clearance looks pretty close.
its totally in there, no problems

[ZenkiKid]

Howd the reverse rake setup feel?

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Wow the new setup looks really smooth. Good work, gentlemen!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

It was amazing, it just wanted to lay so deep into the angle like its the cars comfort zone.
Smooth confident transitions
The car wants to be flicked hard at full throttle with zero chance of spinning.
You seriously cant spin.
I guess its time for me to step up my game to match the car's ability.
It likes me to treat it really bad
It puts the lotion on the skin

[omgRWDgoodness!]

MR2 Spyder drifting? Sweet.

[808drft]

hey dan how much of reverse rake are u running??

[PoorMans180SX]

hey dan how much of reverse rake are u running??

You blind? I like how everyone jumps on these "functional" bandwagons. Clearly he's not hardly running any, which is awesome, because it looks retarded when people have their fronts jacked way up and the back tucking tire.

[sil80sr20]

this is fresh, just needs wider wheels now.

still fresh as fuck though

[DC Dan MAX USA]

The rear is lower than the front right now. The look may be exaggerated by the 17 / 18 combo.

Yes I need wider wheels to relax the extension of the axle situation.

[prego]

did you wind the rear lower control arms out a bit too much?

[future]

God I love that your using that beauty for what it's made for, to slide

[CamryOnBronze]

Glad to see the car came together for you guys- looks great!

[thefro526]

The rear is lower than the front right now. The look may be exaggerated by the 17 / 18 combo.

Yes I need wider wheels to relax the extension of the axle situation.

Dan, have you considered making axle spacers? They seem to be relatively straightforward to manufacture which might make them worthwhile - especially if this problem is going to be more common with your new parts.

Otherwise, awesome driving. Car looks excellent.

[sidewaysil80]

Dan, have you considered making axle spacers? They seem to be relatively straightforward to manufacture which might make them worthwhile - especially if this problem is going to be more common with your new parts.

thats a very good point. i know they're very popular with the s2000 guys and always wondered why they never caught on with us.

[punxva]

i've seen a few companies in japan make them for our cars (In drift tengoku), but Max should make some so we have easier access to them here stateside.

[808drft]

i've seen a few companies in japan make them for our cars (In drift tengoku), but Max should make some so we have easier access to them here stateside.

i second this. i need new axles bad. this is my 2nd set i blew already. but sick parts like always dan.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

did you wind the rear lower control arms out a bit too much?
"as for the random S13 axles (i didn't know was in there), not so good due to the widebody suspension settings"

it works fine with the correct axle installed, they are just hard to come by in my case.

it should also have the 6 (separate) bolt axles, much stronger

Dan, have you considered making axle spacers?
I have considered it but its really a bandaid solution like wheel spacers are. Maybe someone who has actually ran them can chime in but basically we are taking the axle to diff union from one shear point to two.

Ultimately the correct solution is a set of gangster offset and width wheels, dial the adjustments back in on the arms.

But if it comes down to dollars and cents, I suppose the cheaper solution to custom wheels is the wheel spacer, and the cheaper solution to wheel spacers may be axle spacers although its probably not cheaper by much - and we already make the wheel spacers.

thats a very good point. i know they're very popular with the s2000 guys and always wondered why they never caught on with us.

S2000's take the weakest offsets ever so why are they using axle spacers?

[Breaker]

I heard you like cv grease and 114 degree tarmac.

[pandapruitt]

looks sooo good im jelly

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I heard you like cv grease and 114 degree tarmac.
everyone must think so because thats how we spent all day saturday

[EDacIouSX]

Ultimately the correct solution is a set of gangster offset and width wheels, dial the adjustments back in on the arms.



Wouldn't the wider wheel solution mess with roll center though? As in wider wheels and dial back the arms? Just picking your brain since you seem to know a lot more about this stuff than me. Car looks great.

[PoorMans180SX]

Wouldn't the wider wheel solution mess with roll center though?

Nope.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/001July/asb/one40.jpg

[DC Dan MAX USA]

wide wheels changes the king pin inclination offset.

[sidewaysil80]

S2000's take the weakest offsets ever so why are they using axle spacers?

i'm not an expert on the product/purpose but i thought wheel spacers/offsets wouldn't fix what axle spacers are used for. we all know on the majority of lowered vehicled the axles are angled/joints stretched upwards. this obviously puts stress on them, i assume the axle spacers closes some of that gap thus reducing the stretch, and thus relieving some of that stress. like i said i'm not an expert on the subject and am just stating what i thought they're purpose was for.

[ka-titties]

From what i've read it seems you adjusted the rear LCA outward along with making the other necessary adjustments to the rear multi-link to help with wheel fitment resulting in the axle getting stretched past its limit?

if thats the case, like you said, axle spacers are not the solution. bringing the the knuckle back toward the inside of the car is whats needed. then use wheel spacers or get wider/lower offset wheels.

this may be repeating whats already been said...

[cured13]

I've just prepaid for my RUCA's, thank you.

[didderson]

They look great, exactly what I wanted in LCA's. Maybe I missed it, but what's the maximum correction you can give us on the LCA ball joint length? (front specifically).

Props for breaking the mold again. The copycats have to play catch up now :P

[DC Dan MAX USA]

wheel spacers/offsets wouldn't fix what axle spacers are used for.

the majority of lowered vehicles the axles are angled/joints stretched upwards. the axle spacers closes some of that gap thus reducing the stretch.
The wheel spacers and offset assumes totally adjustable arms in regards to axle happiness. I guess the typical car won't have that.

You are correct about the axle angle on the typical lowered car.
They look great, exactly what I wanted in LCA's. Maybe I missed it, but what's the maximum correction you can give us on the LCA ball joint length? (front specifically).

Props for breaking the mold again. The copycats have to play catch up now :P
The amount if correction is anything you want until the ball joint hits the brake disc or the wheel.

[FunctionFiRst]

Looks Great Dan!!!

those new suspension pieces are looking phenomenal!

in some angles the car reminds me of the RAUH WELT S15!

Amazing job guys!

[chato de shamrock]

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1309289424_2_FT0_dsc02571.jpg[/CENTER]



Looks great. Hope I can get a chance to see this project in person. Mind if I ask what this uneven "U" shape welded bar is for? I noticed it when I was changing the radiator on my car but couldnt figure out its purpose.

[articdragon192]

Tie down for towing.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Looks Great Dan!!!

those new suspension pieces are looking phenomenal!

in some angles the car reminds me of the RAUH WELT S15!

Amazing job guys!
Thanks, I have been a fan of the RWB porsche for years as well.
Mind if I ask what this uneven "U" shape welded bar is for?
perfect jack point from the front.

[sidewaysil80]

The wheel spacers and offset assumes totally adjustable arms in regards to axle happiness. I guess the typical car won't have that.
You are correct about the axle angle on the typical lowered car.


ok i see what you're saying now, i just figure the majority of people (including myself) have coilovers/and adjustable arms thats it. axle spacers SEEM like viable solution to correct the issue compared to adjustable rear lower control arms. hense my interest/curiosity to see if thats the case.

[MidwestMyriad]

Just sent payment for RUCA's. Thanks again!

[irritatedmax]

The grey on grey looks good. My apologies for saying it would be too matchy matchy.

[XFuzionX]

this car is amazing

[flipmike22]

Looks great! I'm taking some of your ideas.

let me guess casey?......this you?

[slideways90]

what r those outter tie rod ends?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

the outer tie rod end is an unreleased MAX oem style outer tie rod end that we are testing.

[hpipro4]

how did you run the oil cooler setup? are you runinng a thermostat somwer? which mobil1 filter is that?

how does it flow? from block>oil cooler>oil filter then back to block?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I ran the oil cooler setup in the order you described but it does not really matter what order the parts are in.

It uses the $60 Parts Shop Max oil filter relocator, with three dash 10 lines and a 15 row cooler added to it, and the senders for the $180 MAX EVDM digital meter (pressure and temp) are plugged into the two ports on the side of the relocation adapter.

You can use FRAM PH7317, MOBIL 1 M1-110 filters.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1241831774_2_FT4525_p1040623.jpg

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1280966601_2_FT6781_p1070115.jpg

[godrifttoday]

Wow 60 bucks thats pretty good

[hpipro4]

are the orange ones any different? im currently using the ones above but w/o oil cooler.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

No different.

You just need 3 lines instead of 2 to run a cooler.

[hpipro4]

should i be fine w/o running an oil thermostat?

[DanielS14]

more pics please, this car is to dialed!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Sorry I did not answer the oil thermostat Q. The car does not use one. It is only turned on for drifting & that only happens in the so-cal desert.

Use a thermostat if you will have trouble warming up.

[GripTerror]

anymore updates on car or awesome parts :)

[jdm2191]

Looks great. Hope I can get a chance to see this project in person. Mind if I ask what this uneven "U" shape welded bar is for? I noticed it when I was changing the radiator on my car but couldnt figure out its purpose.
Too funny :picardfp:

[DC Dan MAX USA]

anymore updates on car or awesome parts :)
next thing that will be developed on this car (for S14's) is the super high oval exhaust system.

[ryandriftingfat]

Does your mid-mount IC kit fit around a Koyo radiator?

[ZenkiKid]

I hope you develop an exhaust system for s13s dan! My apexi n1 duals hang too too low for my liking.

[Trap Star]

Too funny :picardfp:
Glad to see I'm not the only one that found that funny. I mean, I know everyone has to start somewhere when learning this kind of shit but damn...


Btw, car looks awesome and so do those suspension bits. Might have to pick some up once I get my pos back on the road. Do you know if the ruca's will clear coilovers on an s13 w/s14 rear subframe? I know I had to use the s13 ruca's because my stock s14 ones wouldn't clear.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Does your mid-mount IC kit fit around a Koyo radiator?
yes it does
I hope you develop an exhaust system for s13s dan! My apexi n1 duals hang too too low for my liking.
s13 is already developed and in production now. (http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?5343.20)
The S14/15 will be the second oval exh. application
Do you know if the ruca's will clear coilovers on an s13 w/s14 rear subframe?
Im sure it will, we have one part for both cars. The bend has mad clearance.

[CaptainVlad]

On you're website (thread for the exhaust on the forum to be more precise) it says that you will not be making the exhaust.

What's going on with it?

When do you plan to get the instock, and what do you guys anticipate cost will be like? Will the end user have to purchase a different "Cobra" downpipe form you, or will the current one suffice?

[brndck]

wow that oval exhaust looks super rad.
put me down for one.
is it one piece all the way to the back of the turbo?
(obviously there is a slip fitting in the middle)

[DC Dan MAX USA]

It says its expensive and we are trying to control costs, but that does not mean its dead. Its a formidable challenge to bring that to market because we had to invest a S-load of money in custom tooling dies to make our proprietary oval shape (flatter than say burns stainless) and slip joint and transition dies too. Sectioned bends are a lot of labor too.

Its a full turbo back. 3 pieces, Downpipe, Mid pipe and rear Y pipe. so that makes 2 slip joints. Other than the ultimate ground clearance its also badass because its solid mount with a vertical flex in the front.

The price and spec for S13 seems to be on lock now. No exact date of delivery yet.
$1200 for the full system with burnt titan tip coating
$1100 for the full system in brushed stainless
$350 for the axle back duals with a 3" round transition
$450 for the axle back duals with a 3" round transition and burnt titan tip
Full systems are available in 2 lengths for OEM bumpers and +89mm for Aero bumpers or people who just want it long.

[TheRealSy90]

I jizzed all over my screen when I saw the exhaust.

I might wait on isis straight pipe now...

[DeanGrind]

The car looks really good! Makes me wanna go ahead on my idea of using Hot Rod Flatz classic white after seeing how well the gunmetal color turned out on your car!

Very very good job!

[PoorMans180SX]

$1200 for the full system with burnt titan tip coating
$1100 for the full system in brushed stainless
$350 for the axle back duals with a 3" round transition
$450 for the axle back duals with a 3" round transition and burnt titan tip
Full systems are available in 2 lengths for OEM bumpers and +89mm for Aero bumpers or people who just want it long.

Will there be any option for cat-back systems?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

The driving force behind going through the trouble to develop an original oval exhaust project was unparalleled ground clearance. The only way to get that is to use the complete system.

The axle back is offered to add style to an existing system (like A-spec blast pipes)

Its possible for us to build the round cat back middle section onto the axle back but after adding expense and not adding the amazing ground clearance of the complete system I wonder if that makes sense. Maybe it makes sense if you want a cat and a muffler?

[Om1kron]

if you want something for the streets that exhaust system is not it. period even if tooled around with it would still be loud as shit, no muffler. No reason to waste all that money on race car shit to keep your car a lady in the streets, and a freak on the track!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Maybe its not cool in any city where cops are dicks.
Its loud, but not stupid loud like an NA car. The turbo is your muffler here.
Cops are dicks here and we still have been building straight pipes for years for people who don't give a shit.

Have a listen to this KA-T and RB25:
9U29FSsxl0c
di1ln0os0sU
Why does the digital camera make me sound like a child? Oh well.

[Marcus]

i really regret not doing a burnout...

[nathanong87]

cops are dicks here and we still have been building straight pipes for years for people who don't give a shit.


for yearsssss

[TheRealSy90]

I would rock the oval exhaust on my DD no fucking problem. It's already straight piped...

[JVD]

i really regret not doing a burnout...

i really regret you not doing a burnout

[808drft]

if you want something for the streets that exhaust system is not it. period even if tooled around with it would still be loud as shit, no muffler. No reason to waste all that money on race car shit to keep your car a lady in the streets, and a freak on the track!


haha i run a straight pipe with no cat on my n/a ka daily. no troubles every. just dont drive like an idiot. i do have the middle muffler though but still loud as s**t!!

[codyace]

if you want something for the streets that exhaust system is not it. period even if tooled around with it would still be loud as shit, no muffler. No reason to waste all that money on race car shit to keep your car a lady in the streets, and a freak on the track!

My roomate runs a muffler/catless setup on his s13 and just driving around/cruising it's really not that loud...much quieter than I was expecting. However at WOT it sounds like a 2 dollar POS and on the highway you can barely hear yourself think inside of it.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

My roomate runs a muffler/catless setup on his s13 and just driving around/cruising it's really not that loud...much quieter than I was expecting. However at WOT it sounds like a 2 dollar POS and on the highway you can barely hear yourself think inside of it.
and thats NA obviously.

[808drft]

mine is like that. super loud at wot but not no ricer raspy action. but its actually pretty quite at cruising speeds for what it is but enough of this talk. Dan yur s15 is sick!!

[codyace]

and thats NA obviously.

No, it's a 400 whp 2871r SR. 3" from the Greddy outlet to the bumper, even with a turndown. Again at WOT it sounds like a bag of dicks. Turbo sounds are cool and all, but it's way to loud inside and out for a guy who really daily drives his car.

And restriction aside, my car with an RSR ExMag made the same HP and Torque, on the same dyno. So save the 'hp restriction' stuff.


I'll go on record and say not much this side of a real race car sounds good without mufflers.

[Om1kron]

LOL I was so waiting for cody's retort. It's almost like he omited those details just so he could retort haha.

[codyace]

LOL I was so waiting for cody's retort. It's almost like he omited those details just so he could retort haha.

you know my Jedi ways ;) I just don't feed into the bullshit marketing stuff. PSM does a great job, and I love their business, but their fanboys are totally annoying.

Oval pipe rocks, and has been used forever (anyone putting big ass duals on an Fbody knows this, or running side exit on a VW does as well).

I think it would really work on these cars so long as there is a flex section still included. I see way to many solid based exhausts ripping/leaking apart (again these are both street and track guys). With some of the stupid low cars having their downpipe taking the 'brunt' of the impact, one before the bend would great. Then again oval pipe may keep it above the chinsey 'framerail' these cars have.

I've owned many different cars, and have had friends with many different cars. This side of real deal cars, it's worthless. a 300whp SR is bullshit in the grand scheme of 'sound quality'.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Maybe its not cool in any city where cops are dicks.
Its loud, but not stupid loud like an NA car. The turbo is your muffler here.
Cops are dicks here and we still have been building straight pipes for years for people who don't give a shit.

Have a listen to this KA-T and RB25:
9U29FSsxl0c
di1ln0os0sU
Why does the digital camera make me sound like a child? Oh well.

No fair... every other car guy i know has a shop to work on their car.. all i have is a dirt drive way with gravel... its almost im possible to jack up a car cuz the dirt sinks.. and if i try to use plywood it cracks and gets sketchy .... I need friends with shops lol.

[Danb]

Same here man but after complaining to all my friends about it for so long, One finally hooked me up with a nice shop to rent for the cheap cheap, it could happen to you just keep those complaints about your shatty situation and something will come up

[travypoo]

hey dan are you running offset steering rack spacers on your car?? I want to do your roll centre mod and FLCA this year. just wondering if the rack spacers are needed as well :)

[cured13]

Hey Dan why GT Factory want more money for my ruca's?

pm'd

[mattsil80wis]

No, it's a 400 whp 2871r SR. 3" from the Greddy outlet to the bumper, even with a turndown. Again at WOT it sounds like a bag of dicks. Turbo sounds are cool and all, but it's way to loud inside and out for a guy who really daily drives his car.

And restriction aside, my car with an RSR ExMag made the same HP and Torque, on the same dyno. So save the 'hp restriction' stuff.


I'll go on record and say not much this side of a real race car sounds good without mufflers.

the car is great to ride in idk what your talking about haha

if i had any interior in the car that might help muffle the exhaust, but since it doesnt it gives you a headache after driving the car for a while

edit: found a video of it warming up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVGXGfM5HKw

[TheRealSy90]

I think it would really work on these cars so long as there is a flex section still included. I see way to many solid based exhausts ripping/leaking apart (again these are both street and track guys). With some of the stupid low cars having their downpipe taking the 'brunt' of the impact, one before the bend would great. Then again oval pipe may keep it above the chinsey 'framerail' these cars have.

That's what the cobra downpipe they offer is for.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

it's way to loud inside and out for a guy who really daily drives his car.
You have interior? that makes a huge difference, so does sound deadening the trunk for daily driver purposes.
I think it would really work on these cars so long as there is a flex section still included. I see way to many solid based exhausts ripping/leaking apart (again these are both street and track guys). With some of the stupid low cars having their downpipe taking the 'brunt' of the impact, one before the bend would great. Then again oval pipe may keep it above the chinsey 'framerail' these cars have.
There is a vertical flex section under the turbo on the oval exhaust (just like our cobra downpipe) and then the rest of the oval pipe is solid bolted (without rubber hangers) to the tranny, under the rear seats, and at the rear bumper support.
its really the most reliable system ever.
hey dan are you running offset steering rack spacers on your car?? I want to do your roll centre mod and FLCA this year. just wondering if the rack spacers are needed as well :)
no, I dont over center. you dont need rack spacers with that combination of parts.
Hey Dan why GT Factory want more money for my ruca's?

pm'd

Sorry, Thats what we get for having a new guy here, The email was sent by mistake. You have already paid the difference to get the parts to canada. Thanks for your business!

USPS tracking is in your IM box
That's what the cobra downpipe they offer is for.
Yes the Cobra is for for ground clearance, effective protection of the turbo gaskets and manifold and for those who need to run a cat and a muffler.

[thefro526]

Hey Dan, any news on the LCA's? I just sent the other half of my money today.

[codyace]

That's what the cobra downpipe they offer is for.

My biggest issue with the Cobra downpipe is the fact that it's a real mf'er to remove the downpipe then if you need to remove it, or if you need to ever take the turbo and shiz all out. I like my stuff to be quickly assembled/dissambled, and I can assure you that messing around with those 5 bolts on the back side of the turbo outlet is not easy, nor fast. 3 bolts on the bottom of a traditioal o2 housing is super simple.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Hey Dan, any news on the LCA's? I just sent the other half of my money today.
FLCA is available to ship any day now, RLCA is on the way
My biggest issue with the Cobra downpipe is the fact that it's a real mf'er to remove the downpipe then if you need to remove it, or if you need to ever take the turbo and shiz all out. I like my stuff to be quickly assembled/dissambled, and I can assure you that messing around with those 5 bolts on the back side of the turbo outlet is not easy, nor fast. 3 bolts on the bottom of a traditioal o2 housing is super simple.my big issue with regular elbows and downpipes is that the gaskets are always getting destroyed, bolts come loose and the manifold is always cracking.
The only reason i would need to take my turbo off is to F with that S but ever since I have had the cobra with the vertical flex completely protecting all of those items, I have never had to remove my turbo. It's a real relief to have complete exhaust system reliability and to not loose power because of some chronic exhaust leaks.

When we install a cobra down pipe we always put in new hardware so that we never have to worry about shearing off some 20 year old stud.

[Om1kron]

haha yeah taking the turbo is a real turd job with the cobra pipe, but it's a small sacrafice I'll except for not having to constantly tighten bolts that shook loose due to solid pipes. Replacing that t25 is going to be a real bitch.

Please let me know when you guys are selling the new toe arms and such so I can allocate some money for these items. I have someone trying to shove spl down my throat, both companies are great imo. But you guys always hook me up (not price wise) so I like repeat business to help out the little guys.

[CamryOnBronze]

my big issue with regular elbows and downpipes is that the gaskets are always getting destroyed, bolts come loose and the manifold is always cracking.
The only reason i would need to take my turbo off is to F with that S but ever since I have had the cobra with the vertical flex completely protecting all of those items, I have never had to remove my turbo. It's a real relief to have complete exhaust system reliability and to not loose power because of some chronic exhaust leaks.

I must say, I drive my car about 80 miles per day to and from work and scrape the test pipe flanges fairly often. It's AMAZING not having to worry about gaskets failing, turbo nuts coming loose, or my Tomei manifold cracking. When you combine the Cobra with some other items like a high-ground clearance catback, poly exhaust bushings, and the OEM turbo manifold locking tabs, you really can't go wrong.

So nice not to have the turbo nuts loosening and the 4 bolt gasket blowing out anymore.

[codyace]

my big issue with regular elbows and downpipes is that the gaskets are always getting destroyed, bolts come loose and the manifold is always cracking.

Maybe if the end customer is using old junk in the first place, but in the countless installs I can say I've never seen or had an issue if using new hardware (or better hardware) with new gaskets and or even stove cement/RTV seals.

I don't see how the flex prevents any of those seals from failing in the first place. Any one doing the install should already being using lock washers or deformed thread stuff.

The big reason or failure on any account in that area is to improper installation...even your product won't seal correctly if they use old hardwae and don't clean it up ya know? I'm sure you can agree that 90% of kids that touch these cars shouldn't be working on them at all :D



The only reason i would need to take my turbo off is to F with that S but ever since I have had the cobra with the vertical flex completely protecting all of those items, I have never had to remove my turbo.

It's not so much in the protection aspect of things, it's the ease of working aspect. 'S' happens as they say, and the last thing I'd want to do is screw around trying to get to those 5 outlet bolts just to get the downpipe off in car, when it's already a tight area in there. Ease of workability goes a long way, and If I can save time and or issues then that's the way to go. I may be in that 3% of customers that wants everythign easy on/off just in case something happens ya know?


It's a great idea, and the flex helps the hella-slammed kids protect their turbo/manifolds, but I just prefer the traditional 3 bolt flange.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I dont know the ride height of the cars are you install exhaust on, or the way people use those cars but for my experience with 2 piece downpipes... I continually used new OEM gaskets and hardware of the highest grade possible...every time there was a problem which was every time I rail slide off course, my exhaust becomes more distinctly D shaped and the bolts loosen and the gaskets blow out, particularly the 4 bolt turbo and the 3 bolt elbow to DP. I always found the 3 bolt difficult because of the one bolt thats almost touching the firewall.

Anyhow, Cody you are in luck because most companies sell a 2piece down pipe - so that should keep you happy.

Maybe 90% of kids dont know how to work on their car, but I cant think of a better scenario than these a 20 year 240's to give it a shot, you gotta learn somehow. I just try to give good advice, and when someone would rather pay me to do it for them I do that too.

The five bolt flange may not be the easiest thing you have unscrewed but its not the end of the world either, nothing a basic 12mm wrench and socket cant get to. If there is any advice I can give, its to not loosen the bottom or top all the way, loosen a little of each back and fourth.

Heres a pic of my shitty old school cat back. All scratches are perpendicular to the pipe. Its tucked really high too, almost touching the diff, and thats with the subframe raised as well.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1309580269_2_FT8497_dsc02655.jpg
cant wait to replace that old aluminized steel junk

[CaptainVlad]

So with the tubing on the new exhaust being the shape that it is, wont it cause restrictions and cause a loss of power?

Have you guys tested your exhaust versus a standard round exhaust to check for any big power loss?

[PoorMans180SX]

So with the tubing on the new exhaust being the shape that it is, wont it cause restrictions and cause a loss of power?

Have you guys tested your exhaust versus a standard round exhaust to check for any big power loss?

You might want to do a little research on exhaust flow and fluid dynamics.

[codyace]

You might want to do a little research on exhaust flow and fluid dynamics.

Beat me too it :D

[BOROSUN]

the clearance should be great

http://www.ovalexhaust.com/images/header_catalog_3.gif

[s13 @ fullboost]

looks awesome guys I really wish I could have been able to make it to asb But I was in Lebanon car is amazing hope to see you guys soon keep up the good work

[simmode1]

the clearance should be great

http://www.ovalexhaust.com/images/header_catalog_3.gif
Oh god that makes so much sense to me now. Want.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

It's even better clearance and flow than the typical oval pipes because we made our own dies....
It's only 2 inches high and it's more area inside than a 3" round.

[TheRealSy90]

Spy shot at some of the new arm designs it looks like? The ones by the mufflers.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224531_195881180472947_100001531990717_532324_4561 774_n.jpg

[Marcus]

Those are for genesis

[nathanong87]

those are for geniuses

[deolio]

Those are for genesis

http://top40-charts.com/thumb.php?x=110&y=110&i=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/files/2007/09/genesis3.jpg

????????

[vas570sx]

^hahahahaha

[Nick_04K]

I considered oval exhaust for my v8 s13 but steered away after getting price quotes on the oval pipe.

It was just too expensive for me but i think it's a great idea and honestly im surprised that it isn't used by more of the low low guys.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

what the hell, big brother is watching?! that sure is an up to date pic of our wall. wow.
i never even posted pix of the new genesis parts myself, lol

Nick, you're right. Oval is very expensive, especially to make custom for your application - thats a lot of work.
It was our goal to make an affordable off the shelf system, and it may be impossible to do one for every motor swap. Just SR and KA-T for now. I think that in a little while, we will sell the components to people who want to do custom stuff. Tubes, transitions, and slip joints for less than the usual oval suppliers pricing.

[kalypso123]

here's some on Ebay

5' for 150$ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Vibrant-SS-Oval-Exhaust-Pipe-3-1-2-Nom-5-long-T304-/280598663872?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4154fbd2c0)

10' would've been better value :/

[TheRealSy90]

Dan, that picture is literally from today haha :)

Didn't know they were genesis parts, my bad. Still dope!

[va240dude]

http://top40-charts.com/thumb.php?x=110&y=110&i=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/files/2007/09/genesis3.jpg

????????

Hahaha, sadly I bet there are plenty of young cats on who don't know who they are. Can't wait to get my PBM rucas and toes!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Thats a pretty good price on the Ebay pipe, but the transitions are not cheap and they dont offer slip joints.

Plus the MAX oval will have 3/8" more ground clearance and a nice brushed finish.

[brndck]

phil collins is a weird lookin dude.

[Patrick Bowering]

any word on your inner tierods? Will be buying flca setup asoon as money permits.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

testing on the new inners...in formula D... is going well

so we will put them into production

but I dont know a release date.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Ive been testing the new Parts Shop MAX PRO steering knuckle modification on the S15 alongside some well known FD teams

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ExsO6QJHOps

[TheRealSy90]

Cool vids.
Were you running star specs on the rear too?

San Diego isn't far, I should just drive to the shop and tell you to go at it on my car haha :P

[darkevildrifter]

OK so now you got the 15 what the price on the 33?

[Marcus]

i was seriously there the day before you were.

that angle is crazy!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Cool vids.
Were you running star specs on the rear too?

San Diego isn't far, I should just drive to the shop and tell you to go at it on my car haha :P
federal ss595 255 35 18 in back @ 50 PSI cold. you can schedule it in if you need some work done.
OK so now you got the 15 what the price on the 33?
You want to buy my R33? IM me.
i was seriously there the day before you were.

that angle is crazy!
cool!

[thefro526]

Video was cool.

Makes me want to spend more money. Damn it.

[irritatedmax]

Are the knuckles going to be a modified stock knuckle? Like we send ours in (or a core charge), you modify them and send them back? I didn't know if the ones shown in the video were just for getting measurements or if they are close to the final product.

And obviously, like all your guys' stuff - they look sick.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

It's a modified stock knuckle.
You send your knuckles in, we mod them and send it back to you. There is no core exchange system so allow a few days for turn around time. We only work on your knuckle. It will look exactly like the ones in the video.

[RedBullRioter]

dang i wish that you guys sold that downpipe before i pieced my own together. still kudos for fixing something that desperately needed attention. i'll probably replace mine when with the MAX's when i can get my hands on one of those MAX catback exhausts.

[cbcm2435]

i have still yet to see a picture of this car drifting, if you have any, you should post them up. if you have one desktop size, that would be even better

[808drft]

how much do u charge for the pro knuckle set up?? i already have the original psm knuckle but would love to try the pro version

[Slide~or~die]

Love the build!


My question is whats the point in investing in RLCA's?
All my multi link is PBM an i wish i stayed up to date with
the new parts you all were coming out with. Your new knuckles
look great. Unfortunately i already got my DW knuckles in.


Thanks!

[towlie]

I didn't know they made hubs...

[Slide~or~die]

what are you talking about? =p

[DC Dan MAX USA]

i have still yet to see a picture of this car drifting, if you have any, you should post them up. if you have one desktop size, that would be even better
only been to one official event with photogs and the axles were broke almost the whole time.

Its our test mule and there is really no media when we are testing besides the video we shot with our own camera.

I run a really big Drift Circuit invitational on coronado island in san diego the end of september every year in conjunction with speedfest, and there is always tons of media there so im sure there will be some cool shots soon in the current trim.
thats where the DC comes into my alias - Drift Circuit and MAX USA - are a couple of my gigs.
heres one from 2010 - thats a sailboat in the background - best place to drift on earth !

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1286226353_2_FT6949_s15coronado2010.jpg
how much do u charge for the pro knuckle set up?? i already have the original psm knuckle but would love to try the pro version
$400+sh
its gangster
Love the build!
My question is whats the point in investing in RLCA's?

you can get away with the stock RLCA for a while when you are gathering a collection of the more essential links related to emergency alignment of a car you lowered, but the RLCA is a rubber jointed junker like the rest of them and should be replaced for the freedom of motion the spherical bearings have, and you can adjust your rear track width a lot for wheel fitment. The shape of the triangle is more wide wheel friendly where the OEM arm would scrape on a 11 or 12" wide wheel depending on the offset.
well the OEM joints on the RLCA are crap
I didn't know they made hubs...
some people say spindles some say hubs which are very close, and attached to the knuckle

we have been modifying / making knuckles for years

[irritatedmax]

Always wondered about the "DC". Any pics of the Drift Circuit layout (like is it a lot or a track)? I can't believe I've never heard of it before. 2011 car looks way more awesome than 2010 car. Well done.

$400 seems REALLY reasonable for those knuckles.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

its a legit pro level track on active military base tarmac with barriers and grandstands from long beach grand prix.

www.driftcircuit.org

http://www.driftcircuit.org/mapspeedfestS.jpg

[Slide~or~die]

Very good point. Thanks for the great answer!
Btw i love you product. i know this is off topic
but will PBM be making any multi link for the
350z?

[pinkarrowsnow]

Dan what else do we need to run the pro knuckles? Longer tie rods? Modded LCA's like different then normal modded ones or is everything included?

[dazed]

Hey I ordered and received two pairs of your adjustable spacers.

When I was fitting them, they didn't want to go on all the way... they get caught on the hub dust cover thing. Will I have to take a mallet and tap them on? Or are they supposed to just go right on.

Heres a pic, red part is what is whats keeping it from going on all the way:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/zarin_photos/s.jpg

[TheRealSy90]

Looks like you might have to sand off some of that corrosion or build up of whatever it is that's on there haha.

[dazed]

Yeah thats what most people suggested, however the Ichiba's that were on there went on without a problem.

[joefresh]

psm fit better? clean the surface debris off and try again.

[Johny5]

goddamn stranger whats up

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Very good point. Thanks for the great answer!
Btw i love you product. i know this is off topic
but will PBM be making any multi link for the
350z?
We are making everything for the z33, pro coilovers are in stock now and the multilink will be out soon
Here is the results:
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Dan what else do we need to run the pro knuckles? Longer tie rods? Modded LCA's like different then normal modded ones or is everything included?
same as before, longer tie rods and OEM spec ends, same mod to the LCA, preferably our tubular LCA
Yeah thats what most people suggested, however the Ichiba's that were on there went on without a problem.
did the other brand go right on because they are not hub centric ?
Scotch brite pad or sandpaper on that crusty hub or did we send you the wrong spec altogether?
goddamn stranger whats uphave not seen you since we did some international drifiting, drop me a email sometime or come to Cali for some man on man drift action, lol

[frizzle]

same as before, longer tie rods and OEM spec ends,
What if you have SPL outter tie rods? It should work the same right??

[dazed]

did the other brand go right on because they are not hub centric ?
Scotch brite pad or sandpaper on that crusty hub or did we send you the wrong spec altogether?

Other brand was hub-centric. These adjustables are not.

I will try sanding the hubs. I threw away the box but I'm pretty sure they were the right ones.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

If you have aftermarket tie rod ends make sure there is no bump steer adjustments used to make it different than the OEM when using our knuckles because they dont require the adjustment. OEM tie rod ends are also recommended because seems to last longer.

The MAX wheel spacers are most certainly hub centric. What they dont have is a wheel side adapter due to the stackable nature of the design.

[dazed]

Oh my misunderstanding then. I thought that hub centric spacers have the little protruding lip around the center, the hub centric ring.

I'm going to try and fit them now.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Some recent action shots at the Coronado Speed Festival:

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1317068114_2_FT0__mg_9228.jpg

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1317068681_2_FT9000_img_5236.jpg

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1317068114_2_FT0__mg_9060.jpg

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1317068114_2_FT0__mg_9132.jpg

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1317068114_2_FT0__mg_9246.jpg

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1317068681_2_FT9000_img_5278.jpg

[tricky_ab]

Heck yeaahhh! Nice to see it in action! Any videos?

[snoops14]

Daaannn where did u get these pictures from?? (its Adam) :)

[DC Dan MAX USA]

here is my event coverage, there is 2 sweet shots in there of you

Coronado Speed Festival - Parts Shop MAX Invitational (http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9000)

[snoops14]

yess youre a stud dan. Thanks for everything this past weekend. im gonna come down w jesse just to hang out w you guys haha

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Heck yeaahhh! Nice to see it in action! Any videos?
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[ILoveMyRHS13]

Wow that track looks like an absolute blast!

[shibui]

nice!!!!!!

[cjmirabal1]

Legen-dary!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tricky_ab]

Man I love that kit :yum: ...You looked like you were having a blast!


Wow that track looks like an absolute blast!

For real!