View Full Version : Getting new coilovers?
Viet-Tam
06-25-2011, 05:37 AM
I plan on getting a simple coilover setup. Its going to be on my daily driver. What other suspension parts do i need to get a proper alignment for good tire wear?
kojiki88
06-25-2011, 07:03 AM
It depends on how low your DD will be.
Nick_04K
06-25-2011, 07:15 AM
Tension rods/Toe arms/Ruca's usually
kojiki88
06-25-2011, 07:20 AM
Tension rods/Toe arms/Ruca's usually
In other words.
Viet-Tam
06-25-2011, 07:25 AM
The drop is not going to anything aggressive. Just trying to get rid of that ugly fender gap. Its mainly going to be a daily driver to and from work.
s13_coupekilla
06-25-2011, 07:26 AM
Just get all the arms for the rear right away. Enjuku racing has the isis rods in a deal right now thats what i am gonna pick up once i save and just save the front tension rods till i get hardened tie rods and tie rod ends. It saves you the trouble of worrying about it squatting super low once you get the arms. If you get arms now then you don't have to go super crazy until your trying to drift hardcore. What coilovers also if you get pbms i say get arms cause you might lower super low and your gonna need them to adjust the rear so you don't wear tire faster.
Just get all the arms for the rear right away. Enjuku racing has the isis rods in a deal right now thats what i am gonna pick up once i save and just save the front tension rods till i get hardened tie rods and tie rod ends. It saves you the trouble of worrying about it squatting super low once you get the arms. If you get arms now then you don't have to go super crazy until your trying to drift hardcore. What coilovers also if you get pbms i say get arms cause you might lower super low and your gonna need them to adjust the rear so you don't wear tire faster.
wut.
Nick_04K summed it up. Depending on how low you go you might need aftermarket arms, or you might not.
s14fbs
06-25-2011, 07:48 AM
i would just do the whole suspension package while your doing coil overs
so then its done u don't have to worry about going on and off the rack figuring out if u need them or not
usally to get rid of fender gap your going to need arms
*ISIS Suspension Arm Package - Nissan 240sx [ IS-SUSPK-NS1X ] - Enjuku Racing - Performance Parts and High Quality Fabrication (http://www.enjukuracing.com/isis-suspension-package-nissan-240sx-p-8984.html)
Viet-Tam
06-25-2011, 08:08 AM
Thanks for keeping the answer simple and to the point.
i would just do the whole suspension package while your doing coil overs
so then its done u don't have to worry about going on and off the rack figuring out if u need them or not
usally to get rid of fender gap your going to need arms
*ISIS Suspension Arm Package - Nissan 240sx [ IS-SUSPK-NS1X ] - Enjuku Racing - Performance Parts and High Quality Fabrication (http://www.enjukuracing.com/isis-suspension-package-nissan-240sx-p-8984.html)
lflkajfj12123
06-25-2011, 09:22 AM
do not buy isis arms
look into spl parts arms
future
06-25-2011, 09:27 AM
Isis makes good shit, don't bash it if you never used it.
s14fbs
06-25-2011, 09:28 AM
do not buy isis arms
look into spl parts arms
for a daily there awesome ?? i dont think hes looking to spend 1200 or more on spl stuff for a daily
but yeah if u got the money get pbm or spl but there like overkill if it just a daily
ManoNegra
06-25-2011, 09:29 AM
do not buy isis arms
look into spl parts arms
This, don't buy garbage
for a mild drop and street-able setup all you
really need is Rear Upper Control arms
and make sure your suspension bushings are in good shape
s14fbs
06-25-2011, 09:31 AM
This, don't buy garbage
for a mild drop and street street-able setup all you
really need is Rear Upper Control arms
and make sure your suspension bushings are in good shape
your going to need toe also theres not much adjustment in the oem toe arms
lflkajfj12123
06-25-2011, 10:05 AM
Isis makes good shit, don't bash it if you never used it.
kill yourself
SlideOrDie831
06-25-2011, 11:17 AM
i agree with soap. spend your money wisely and on quality parts.
florante rea
06-25-2011, 11:33 AM
^^^ i like how u think.
EhrikETFG
06-25-2011, 12:40 PM
RUCA and traction minimum
HS13KLS
06-25-2011, 12:57 PM
kill yourself
hahahha
To the OP
First, Id like to suggest the SEARCH BUTTON. Its 2011. Im pretty sure coilovers have been covered. PLENTY of times.
Secondly, if you are just going to daily it just get something cheap and used.
ex. Tein HE's or something
S14DB
06-25-2011, 01:17 PM
for a daily there awesome ?? i dont think hes looking to spend 1200 or more on spl stuff for a daily
but yeah if u got the money get pbm or spl but there like overkill if it just a daily
Your logic is inverse. You need quality stuff on a daily. Unknown road surface quality and weather will destroy cheap crap. You also don't want to deal with kidney punching every day.
Your logic is inverse. You need quality stuff on a daily. Unknown road surface quality and weather will destroy cheap crap. You also don't want to deal with kidney punching every day.
Cheap arms will work just fine for a daily. Why would he need beefy ass arms on a DD? He could buy cheap arms, and after years of use he can replace them if he needs to and still not come close to the price of higher end arms.
Its mainly going to be a daily driver to and from work.
Did any of the people recommending SPL read this? Seems a bit overkill.
Propaganda
06-25-2011, 02:45 PM
Yes.. have it break on the highway and die
lflkajfj12123
06-25-2011, 03:41 PM
Totally agree with S14DB, I'd rather run cheap parts on a track only car.
SPL isn't overkill it's designed how a suspension arm should be... OEM quality. Mostly everything else on the market is just completely inferior. If OP cares about money so much he shouldn't be lowering the car in the first place. He can either lower it and pay it in tires or pay it in good arms, the money is still going to disappear somehow.
Quail
06-25-2011, 04:41 PM
Cheap arms will work just fine for a daily. Why would he need beefy ass arms on a DD? He could buy cheap arms, and after years of use he can replace them if he needs to and still not come close to the price of higher end arms.
Did any of the people recommending SPL read this? Seems a bit overkill.
Your logic is massively flawed.
If I'm driving my car around every day, you better believe that when I'm bombing down the highway, or my local backroad, I want 100% total faith in the parts that are keeping my car on the road.
If it was a missle that I didn't give two shits about, then yes, buy the cheap crap. If you spend a lot of time in your car (ie, its a DD), buy decent parts and drive knowing that its not as likely to kill you at the next pot hole...
Your logic is massively flawed.
If I'm driving my car around every day, you better believe that when I'm bombing down the highway, or my local backroad, I want 100% total faith in the parts that are keeping my car on the road.
If it was a missle that I didn't give two shits about, then yes, buy the cheap crap. If you spend a lot of time in your car (ie, its a DD), buy decent parts and drive knowing that its not as likely to kill you at the next pot hole...
Yeah, because it's totally okay to put yourself in harms way at a track? It goes both ways.
I don't know about you, but I usually avoid potholes...
If you're not a complete idiot, I think you can manage not to break a control arm from daily driving. However, I realize accidents can happen.
Krimlin
06-25-2011, 05:54 PM
Why spend the money for a real seat for daily driving, when I can floss in my daily with a milk crate.
lol
Wanna do it right? Upgrade your entire suspension package, because when you lower the 240sx ANY at all your entire suspension geometry is thrown outta whack.
Quail
06-25-2011, 06:03 PM
Yeah, because it's totally okay to put yourself in harms way at a track?
So you accept that by fitting cheap suspension components you're essentially putting yourself in harms way (and your passengers, and the other drivers around you).
I don't know about you, but I usually avoid potholes...
If you're not a complete idiot, I think you can manage not to break a control arm from daily driving. However, I realize accidents can happen.
If you're not a complete idiot, you may notice that not all pot holes are totally avoidable. Low visibility? Busy traffic? I don't know about you, but I'd rather drive through a pothole than swerve in to the path of an oncoming truck. Yes, 9 times out of 10 you can go around pot holes, but if you're weather is anything like the weather I drove through last night, you don't have a chance at avoiding them.
And more often than not, tracks are a much safer, and much better condition driving environment than public roads. My point is, you shouldn't be putting inferior suspension components on road cars OR track cars, ESPECIALLY road cars that you drive every day :goyou:
If it was a missle that I didn't give two shits about, then yes, buy the cheap crap.
So you accept that by fitting cheap suspension components you're essentially putting yourself in harms way (and your passengers, and the other drivers around you).
Hypocrite.
I wonder why Enjuku has sold thousands of ISIS arms without failure. They must not get the job done.
No point getting into a pointless argument though. The question was answered so that's all that matters.
Quail
06-25-2011, 06:08 PM
Hypocrite? I don't have a missile? I haven't fitted any cheap suspension components, and I never would? I'm the guy saying don't fit that shit...
The missile was just an example of something you may want to cheap out on, although I never would. The hint was in the wording: "didn't give two shits about", and "cheap crap". Thankfully, I actually care about my car and my safety.
I wonder why Enjuku has sold thousands of ISIS arms without failure. They must not get the job done.
I'm not specifically talking about ISIS. I'm talking about you recommending the cheap option for the cars that get driven the most, in the most unpredictable environment. I'm talking about your flawed logic.
Stop editing so I can stop editing!! Agreed, question was answered, so this is a pointless exchange.
chato de shamrock
06-25-2011, 06:58 PM
Why spend the money for a real seat for daily driving, when I can floss in my daily with a milk crate.
lol
Wanna do it right? Upgrade your entire suspension package, because when you lower the 240sx ANY at all your entire suspension geometry is thrown outta whack.
What he said. I just dropped my car a bit over a month ago. Like you, Viet-Tam, I just wanted to fill in the gap between the tire and fender and get as best an alignment as possible. Just remember, once you fiddle with this you wont be able to get a spot on alignment. Things will always be off a bit, or a lot. I bought the SPL Rucas and Toes because, doing my homework and reading thru several threads, thats what many members suggested would be needed of the 4 aftermarket parts (tension, toe, Ruca, traction) but shortly after wound up buying the front tension rods to correct the caster. Correct me if i'm wrong Zilvians but wont he have to buy all four arms if he wants to get the best alignment possible?
Everyone has their own way of thinking so I understand if people disagree with me getting SPL on my daily driver. However, after reading the reviews on Isis arms and viewing the pictures of the welding job those arms have as well as the deep scratches and scuffs, then inspecting my SPL arms when they were delivered I feel safer driving on what I have then I would have driving on Isis. I remember someone on this website writting on a suspension arms related thread that of all the things we shouldnt cheap out on its our suspension. Whether you plan to track, grip drift your car or plan on going 65, 70 or 80 down the highway to and from your job if you have something weak or poorly made underneath your car the results will pretty much be the same. I made a budget, waited a few months and wound up with SPL. I waited a little longer, saved up some more and got Stance. But I do rock a Momo steering wheel and Varrstoen wheels so please dont think im trying and failing to sound baller. Just saying don't cheap out on the suspension regardless of what you're going to use your car for.
tqstarburst
06-25-2011, 07:01 PM
Everyone has different budgets,so let the man decide. If you got big bucks then go for it,but some don't so who gives a shit. It's like saying,don't support 9k or varrstoen because they're "cheap" crap,and just buy the legit high end parts. So again not everyone can afford top quality parts.
jesse_s13
06-25-2011, 07:39 PM
Everyone has different budgets,so let the man decide. If you got big bucks then go for it,but some don't so who gives a shit. It's like saying,don't support 9k or varrstoen because they're "cheap" crap,and just buy the legit high end parts. So again not everyone can afford top quality parts.
^^^ who are you?:goyou: lol
omgRWDgoodness!
06-25-2011, 07:50 PM
do not buy isis arms
look into spl parts arms
This, don't buy garbage
:werd:
Isis makes good shit, don't bash it if you never used it.
kill yourself
:bigok:
hahahha
To the OP
First, Id like to suggest the SEARCH BUTTON. Its 2011. Im pretty sure coilovers have been covered. PLENTY of times.
Secondly, if you are just going to daily it just get something cheap and used.
ex. Tein HE's or something
Hahahahahahahlmfazomfgzzzbbqlulz
To inattentive (or illiterate) thread viewer
First, I'd like to suggest READING OP's post. It's 2011. I'm pretty sure OP did not ask for suggestions on which coilovers to purchase.
Secondly, learn to pay attention/read before contributing to a conversation.
ManoNegra
06-25-2011, 08:31 PM
SPL or Peak Performance arent' "big bucks, high end" parts
they're simply quality parts worth their cost
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