Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[frsh4]

This thread is to post your question about wheel fitment and is used to HELP EACH OTHER. This is not to talk shit about someone because they want to ask a question about fitment.

Rules:
1. SEARCH! If all fails come here. We are here to help.
2. No shit talking if your not gonna help someone out DONT POST!
3. Pics are not mandatory but will obviously help.
4. The main reason for this thread is to not clutter up the OG fitment thread and stop all the chit chatter.
5. An answer like yes or no obviously wont help so by posting a response your helping to make the question work. If it is seems like an impossible setup a simple no is ok. Make you response useful.

EX: Q: Will a 18x10 +18 fit on an s13?
A: Yes with some camber and stretched tire. Suggested setup 225/40 about 2.3* of camber maybe less with small pull.

Pic: http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/dirtychuki91/P1160729_sm.jpg


SIMPLE! JUST SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE! :naughty:

ANY SUGGESTIONS TO THE THREAD PLEASE PM ME. ITS MY FIRST BIG THREAD. HEHE.

[Wake]

So i posted my car in the fitment whore thread and it seemed to confuse a lot of people so here is my contribution.
My pics have no spacer but you have to remember that when its on the ground its not going to look the same as weight will make the wheels camber in.

17x8 +33, no spacers, stock body, on springs and struts (eibachs and GR-2s if you must know)
http://i51.tinypic.com/2jgmz9.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cgkk20.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/sol4jb.jpg

i was told it will look like this when its on the ground. except this is 17x8 +35. So you do the math.
Im also planning on running a 215/40 which is what this cars has also
http://charles.sykikchimp.org/images/Nismo/front-wheel-flush.jpg

Now for all you s14 guys who may be looking at similar sizes (assuming you can do math) here is similar fitment. Goes to show how much different there is between 13's and 14's.
I thought it was common knowledge that S14s are ~25mm wider on each side then S13s...and kouki S14s are another ~10mm wider then zenkis from the factory up front.

Just a FYI, on my first set of wheels I did the test fit on lowering springs.

My 17X8 +5 looked like this with a 215/40:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/95KA-Turbo/Wheels7.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/95KA-Turbo/Wheels10.jpg


Once I put the coils on and added some camber I actually had to run a 15mm spacer, haha.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/95KA-Turbo/wheelswithspacers4.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/95KA-Turbo/10-29-073.jpg

Thats with about -2.5* camber.

[UGLYLOWLIFE]

Im trying to fit 18x11.5 +7 on my s14 stock pulled rears. what tire size and how much camber should i run to make it look flush without too much poke?

[frsh4]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/5896053065_acd0b2e90f_z.jpg


Front: 18x10.5 -7 Nankang NSII 225/35/18
Rear: 18x12 -5 Continential Pro Contact 265/35/18

This is the first car i can think of that has a lot of width and a good camber. Maybe he can chime in and help. But im think your gonna end of with a lot of poke depending on your aliment settings. I say go with a 255/35 for stock fender and super sweet pull.

[frsh4]

http://nissan.240sx.net/download/file.php?id=1566

Also found this it is the the same width and hes running 225/40 federals, so expect a lot of poke and camber without over fenders.

Forgot about this thread. Lets use it!

[Drama]

Im trying to fit 18x11.5 +7 on my s14 stock pulled rears. what tire size and how much camber should i run to make it look flush without too much poke?

Here's 17x11.5 +6 225/40 in the rears.

http://rimtuck.com/photos/1232420632.jpg

[kalypso123]

this thread is a good idea.

[EhrikETFG]

zenki looks kinda cool all stock metal

[alexanderig]

I need tire and camber suggestions. Im going to be running a 17x9.75 +25 all around. From calculations I'll need a spacer in the front so I have 10mm spacers for te front. Now this car will be drifted so what camber should I be running up front and out back? Currently I'm at about -2 in the front and -.5 out back. And I'm planning on running a 225/45 sounds good? Lmk

[dudermagee]

how about 18x10 & 18x11 +9 all around on s14 kouki
thinking 235/35/18 and 255/35/18 for tires
how much camber do you think I'll have to run on stock metal with a good roll\pull?

[Houseof1817]

i'd say do a little inner fender arch work, and you could be sitting under -1*

[frsh4]

I need tire and camber suggestions. Im going to be running a 17x9.75 +25 all around. From calculations I'll need a spacer in the front so I have 10mm spacers for te front. Now this car will be drifted so what camber should I be running up front and out back? Currently I'm at about -2 in the front and -.5 out back. And I'm planning on running a 225/45 sounds good? Lmk


If your car is slammed and with that amount of camber I'd run a 245/40 or 235/40 for traction sine you need grip for drifting.

[blingbling]

Battles 17 x 9.5 +15 on all 4, Isis suspension arm kit, ksport kontrol pros. (Support local!)
What im looking for is tire size advice for a clean look with my new setup. Open to any suggestions so fire away.

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx205/Jcreedon4/2011-07-08_10-56-13_779.jpg

[Wake]

Hey guys lets try and quote the question if you are answering someone just so they know who the answer is for.

[dudermagee]

i'd say do a little inner fender arch work, and you could be sitting under -1*

you mean like tub the fronts?

[frsh4]

Battles 17 x 9.5 +15 on all 4, Isis suspension arm kit, ksport kontrol pros. (Support local!)
What im looking for is tire size advice for a clean look with my new setup. Open to any suggestions so fire away.

With you having suspension arms and all that running minimal camera is possible but it means running a stretch tire. So 215/40 is suggested with minimal pull and your super slammed.

[kalypso123]

^ yes...

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[blingbling]

So much win
thanks a bunch
oh and this thread is dope great idea
otherwise I'm pretty sure I'd be subject to flaming lol

[tqstarburst]

Does anyone know or have a picture of how low do s14 ksport pro's go?

[dazed]

how about 18x10 & 18x11 +9 all around on s14 kouki
thinking 235/35/18 and 255/35/18 for tires
how much camber do you think I'll have to run on stock metal with a good roll\pull?

i'd say do a little inner fender arch work, and you could be sitting under -1*

I could be wrong, but I'd figure you'd need "a little" more than that.

11 +9?

Soo I have 9.5 +17, which fits perfect with a slight roll.

With 11 +9 you're going to need to extend the fender out another 26mm, which is more than a little fender arch work.

A nice roll and pull will get you there. I don't know why you would want to be under -1* of camber though, around 1-1.5 is guuuuuuud.

Also, I feel like these two links could help people out a lot...

Wheel Offset Calculator -- Wheel Offset Calculator (http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp)

^ So basically enter the wheels you have now, and the ones you want, it tells you how much wider the new ones are going to be.

And then there is this more advanced one which takes into account tire sizes ect...

Online Wheel & Tyre Fitment calculator. Offset and Tyre Stretch (http://www.willtheyfit.com/) -- This one is cooler, just takes a little more time.

[Style]

here is my question about S14 wheel fitment
for the rear to be able to tuck 20's like this dude
what offset would the wheel need to be for the rear to tuck and not have the rear fenders pulled, just rolled (obviously flatten the inner lip against the body, but still left stock looking on the outside)
http://i56.tinypic.com/ms0z9v.jpg
these wheels in picture MMR HR3 come in 20x8.5 +35 or 20x9.5 +40
im guessing he bought the 20x9.5 +40
i want to know what spacer he is running to have the car the way it is, or no spacer at all?
also how much camber do you think he is running? -2, -3??
that question is just for the rear

now question for the front
lets say this car had a S15 front end conversion running S15 stock metal fenders
i been told that the S15 fenders are wider than S14 fenders
So if i want to run 20x9 or 19x9 in the front with S15 fender than what would the offset need to be to be tucked similar to the s14 in picture running lets say -4 camber

Im going for this look on the S14
http://i51.tinypic.com/dqtyp.jpg
ive done lots of research and tried to find the wheels specs on it but no luck.
i came to the conclusion that its probably 19x9 +6 front and 20x10 +23 rear
this is based on multiple pictures that i seen of the Empress wheels in diff offset for the 9in and 10in

someone please answer these question for me if you really know, if you have no idea please don't try to guess
Thanks

[lflkajfj12123]

all these questions are honestly silly

stop worrying about the offset pretty much get the lowest you can

if you're going for the 326 look you're going to have to run a lot of camber and in the end you'll probably have to use spacers

326 runs -7 to -10 degrees of camber in the FRONT and some what less in the rear

right now on my S14 my fitment goes like this

stock fenders with flattened lips

-7 degrees front -6.5 rear

17x9 +22 front with 33mm spacer

18x10 +19 rear with 15 mm spacer

I could easily lower the car and it would be tucking like you want

its all in the camber

[Style]

dude i know its all in the camber
thats not what im asking tho
i know you can buy a 18x10 with -whatever offset and put it on the car and run like -8 of camber or whatever just to make it fit
thats not what im trying to do tho

i want a 20x10 in the rear tucking like 1in of rim and just want to know what offset the wheel needs to be to run like 2, 3 or 4 degrees of camber
thats all

[Petitt]

Im looking at running 16x10 zero offset wheels in the front on my s13. Probably going to run 205/45s on them too. My question is, am i going to have any problems with rubbing coils or frame? Also, think i could get away with running little to no camber at all?

[lflkajfj12123]

every degree of camber is 5.37 mm away from fender lip

figure it out

[frsh4]

Im looking at running 16x10 zero offset wheels in the front on my s13. Probably going to run 205/45s on them too. My question is, am i going to have any problems with rubbing coils or frame? Also, think i could get away with running little to no camber at all?

Heres a exact car with what you looking for and he doesn't look like hes running a lot of camber so its possible with proper alignment.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5595688054_64d99be637_b.jpg

[ka24debt]

hey guys! idk.. i like my fitment but then sometimes i feel like this can be alot better. specs are 17x9.75+25 and a 6mm spacer in the rear. tire size for the front is 215/45 which might be a bit overkill on the stretch and im running 224/45 in the rear. im rubbing on top of the wheel wells so any opinions on a more "fit" tire size? im also running-2 degrees of camber all around

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m530/ka24debt/IMG_20110710_190427.jpg
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m530/ka24debt/bakerz-FMP201167.jpg

[JZ33]

on a 350Z, 18x10 wheels, will -5 offset require pulling the rear fender? or will just roll and some stretch work? im not on coils yet, just springs that lower a little over an inch...

[blingbling]

If someone wouldn't mind could I get a recommendation on tire size? My wheel specs are on the first page

Edit: up a couple posts.

[95KA-Turbo]

how about 18x10 & 18x11 +9 all around on s14 kouki
thinking 235/35/18 and 255/35/18 for tires
how much camber do you think I'll have to run on stock metal with a good roll\pull?

Fronts will fit no problem with the lip flattened. Rears will need ~-3 camber and a slight pull.

This is ~-2.5 camber with a 255/40/17 BFGs on a 17X11 +12.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3949742774_b0b4ff9db7_o.jpg

Front shot:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2589/3948969057_33273ba72a_o.jpg

The fronts in those photos are 17X10 +7 with 245/40 S-Drives and ~-2.7 camber.

[Wake]

Thanks for joining the thread knoop obviously it could use your help.

[frsh4]

on a 350Z, 18x10 wheels, will -5 offset require pulling the rear fender? or will just roll and some stretch work? im not on coils yet, just springs that lower a little over an inch...

With out coils its gonna poke a lot and pretty much look stupid. On a z33 18x10 with a not so extreme stretch is easy, never owned a z but from what i see its easy with a roll.

If someone wouldn't mind could I get a recommendation on tire size? My wheel specs are on the first page

Edit: up a couple posts.

I answered it to the best of my ability on post #16.

[zooopreme]

hey guys! idk.. i like my fitment but then sometimes i feel like this can be alot better. specs are 17x9.75+25 and a 6mm spacer in the rear. tire size for the front is 215/45 which might be a bit overkill on the stretch and im running 224/45 in the rear. im rubbing on top of the wheel wells so any opinions on a more "fit" tire size? im also running-2 degrees of camber all around


You can try getting even smaller sidewalls. Lower the car a couple of mm's and tuck the tire in the fender a bit.

If I'm not mistaken you can monster stretch 215/40 on a 10" or even a 215/35 on a 10". And since your wheels are .25 smaller, theoretically, that SHOULD help. I would not like driving around LA with that kind of stretch though.

http://www.tyrestretch.com/albums/10_215_35_R17/10_215_35_R17_Continental_Sport_3.jpg

But to be honest, it's not worth the extra effort. Your fitment looks fine.

[Wake]

i agree^^

I was gonna say got to 40 series all around and lower it more.

But i think if you just lower it a little more it will look fine.

[95KA-Turbo]

Take your front fenders off, then beat the shit out of your whole front wheel well with a sledge hammer, LOL. You can beat the top parts up a good 1/2 inch at least. Same goes for the front and back of the wheel well.

[ka24debt]

The fender wells are beat on quite well lol its just rubbing at the very top where the entry for coilover would slip in. Also my stance coils are maxed out up front and i could slip my hand through. Hopefully a 235/40 will fill in the gap and I could put more tire contact to the floor. Thanks guys

[cooltomato]

hey guys! idk.. i like my fitment but then sometimes i feel like this can be alot better. specs are 17x9.75+25 and a 6mm spacer in the rear. tire size for the front is 215/45 which might be a bit overkill on the stretch and im running 224/45 in the rear. im rubbing on top of the wheel wells so any opinions on a more "fit" tire size? im also running-2 degrees of camber all around

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m530/ka24debt/IMG_20110710_190427.jpg
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m530/ka24debt/bakerz-FMP201167.jpg

did you have to run a spacer in the front as well? my friend had to run a spacer to actually bolt them on.

[S14kouki_10]

Can i be slammed on 18's? stock body with just roll. Im about as low as i can go, front wheel rubs on top every little bump. :( Im at -1.5 degree of camber.

[frsh4]

More low= more camber. Remove collars.

[zooopreme]

Can i be slammed on 18's? stock body with just roll. Im about as low as i can go, front wheel rubs on top every little bump. :( Im at -1.5 degree of camber.

Now this is kind of a silly question. One of the first rules of this thread is to search first & we have PLENTY of pictures/specs of S14's on 18's in the Wheel Fitment Whore thread.

If you're worried about your wheels rubbing on every little bump. Maybe slamming your car isn't for you.

But to answer your question, yes. You can fit 18's with a roll. Depending on the width of your wheels and what kind of tires you have will determine if your wheels rubs or not. Camber can aid the fitment a bit.

However, a roll will only get you so far, it has its limits. If you plan on slamming the car with wide wheels + low offset, you'll need more fender work than a roll to achieve that kind of stance.

Like frsh4 said, you can remove collars to go lower. And if you have Fortune Auto coilovers, you can always cut the lower mounts for the fronts or flip them.

As a loophole, get some lame high offset 18x7 wheel and slam that. That won't rub as much when the car is slammed lol

[zooopreme]

My question is for those S13 owners, how much of a pull for the rears will be needed for 10" +18?

I can't tell how much of a pull the couple on the front page has. But it doesn't look like much. I've seen a hatch that was higher off the ground with the same wheel specs and he had to pull the fenders about ~25mm. The hatch is running a 10mm spacer but let's imagine the car without one, will that kind of pull be necessary?

Generally, do coupes have wider wheel wells? Or am I trippin out?

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/dirtychuki91/P1160729_sm.jpg

http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936628.jpg

[SaNTi]

A lot depends on the type of tire you run too. That hatch has a bigger tire than the coupe.

[revcyanide]

this is a great thread.
im looking to tuck on a stock body zenki, with all fenders rolled.
17/18 stagger, I m not going for the 326 power look of tucking half the rim, just to were the lip of the rim is tucked.
my question is, what offsets are ideal for this? i know i can always add more camber but i am trying to do it with minimal camber. I have no problem beating the shit out of the fenderwells to acquire some clerance, and this is not a daily driven car at all.
I have done some searching, and found all the information i could ever want on if i wanted flush fitment, but not much on the look i want.

thanks!

[zooopreme]

Oh that's right I forgot to take that into account, if I were to run a smaller tire will that minimize the camber? Because according to rimtuck, that hatch is running around 3-3.5* and according to the first page, the coupe is running about 2.3*

[SaNTi]

Oh that's right I forgot to take that into account, if I were to run a smaller tire will that minimize the camber? Because according to rimtuck, that hatch is running around 3-3.5* and according to the first page, the coupe is running about 2.3*

Yeah, it'll be easier to fit with a smaller tire. On a 10J you could run 215/40 Federal 595's since they run wide. It'll be like running a 225/40... which are damn near impossible to find. Unless you don't mind running 45s.

[endlessboost]

Fronts will fit no problem with the lip flattened. Rears will need ~-3 camber and a slight pull.

Front shot:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2589/3948969057_33273ba72a_o.jpg

The fronts in those photos are 17X10 +7 with 245/40 S-Drives and ~-2.7 camber.

Hey knoop, is there a reason you run such a wide front tire other than it being grippier? I have 17x10 +0 front and am thinking of running a 225/45 dz101. Couldn't you step down a size in the rear too so the pull wouldn't be to far out? I'm not critisizing just asking cause your shit looks dope as it is.

[frsh4]

My question is for those S13 owners, how much of a pull for the rears will be needed for 10" +18?

I can't tell how much of a pull the couple on the front page has. But it doesn't look like much. I've seen a hatch that was higher off the ground with the same wheel specs and he had to pull the fenders about ~25mm. The hatch is running a 10mm spacer but let's imagine the car without one, will that kind of pull be necessary?

Generally, do coupes have wider wheel wells? Or am I trippin out?


The coupe is mine I do look to have a smaller tire a 225/40 dunlop. The pull is very little hardly noticeable.

[frsh4]

Yeah, it'll be easier to fit with a smaller tire. On a 10J you could run 215/40 Federal 595's since they run wide. It'll be like running a 225/40... which are damn near impossible to find. Unless you don't mind running 45s.

I agree with 100%. I ran dunlop all around and in the front the gap is less with federal and i rub some what with feds where dunlop i actually had a gap.

[dudermagee]

Fronts will fit no problem with the lip flattened. Rears will need ~-3 camber and a slight pull.

This is ~-2.5 camber with a 255/40/17 BFGs on a 17X11 +12.

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3949742774_b0b4ff9db7_o.jpg[/ig]

Front shot:

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2589/3948969057_33273ba72a_o.jpg[/ig]

The fronts in those photos are 17X10 +7 with 245/40 S-Drives and ~-2.7 camber.

Just the person I wanted to answer, your car is my inspiration
thanks dude:bowdown:

[zooopreme]

Heard you can only fit 10" +18 wheels up front on the S13 with Apexi N1 coilovers along with Megans.

With that said, how much of a spacer will I need to run in order for them joints to fit stock bodied S13? And what kind of fender work will I need to make them fit?

Or should I go with a 9 or 9.5" in front. I really don't want to run staggered at all. But if a 10" +18 is not worth the effort, then what would be a better stagger 9 or 9.5"?

[lflkajfj12123]

go with 9j in front

or add a lot of camber then you can run more spacer to clear the coilover

[nathanong87]

Hey knoop, is there a reason you run such a wide front tire other than it being grippier? I have 17x10 +0 front and am thinking of running a 225/45 dz101. Couldn't you step down a size in the rear too so the pull wouldn't be to far out? I'm not critisizing just asking cause your shit looks dope as it is.

run a 235/40-17 star spec. trust me on this.

[ayuaddict]

Seconded on star specs.

Shit is almost as sticky as R888.

motherfucker.

[95KA-Turbo]

Hey knoop, is there a reason you run such a wide front tire other than it being grippier? I have 17x10 +0 front and am thinking of running a 225/45 dz101. Couldn't you step down a size in the rear too so the pull wouldn't be to far out? I'm not critisizing just asking cause your shit looks dope as it is.

I ran that size because I wanted as much tire as I could fit. It was awesome drifting with 245s up front too...I wasn't runny a crazy grippy tire though. I am on 235/40s NT05s up front now which I love. They're retarded grippy compared to any other tire I've used. I've heard great things about Star Specs as well.

Either way, I'd recommend a 235/40 over a 225/45 just because it has a shorter sidewall, the tires overall height is smaller so you'll have more clearance.


Just the person I wanted to answer, your car is my inspiration
thanks dude:bowdown:

Thank you very much, and no problem.




Heard you can only fit 10" +18 wheels up front on the S13 with Apexi N1 coilovers along with Megans.

With that said, how much of a spacer will I need to run in order for them joints to fit stock bodied S13? And what kind of fender work will I need to make them fit?

Or should I go with a 9 or 9.5" in front. I really don't want to run staggered at all. But if a 10" +18 is not worth the effort, then what would be a better stagger 9 or 9.5"?

go with 9j in front

or add a lot of camber then you can run more spacer to clear the coilover

For sure run a 9 up front. A 9 +12 with a 215 fits just about perfect on a stock body S13 up front. You could go with a 9.5 up front, but with the limited room S13s have you'll have a much easier time with fitting the 9J.

I loved the way my S14 felt when I was running 17X9s all around...so you don't have to stagger if you don't want to. A 9/10 stagger is fine, but I'd be more inclined to do a 9/9.5 stagger if you decided to run a staggered set up.

[alexanderig]

well i got my wheels on camber is maxed in the front and in the rear is -.5. i want to go lower but i need fender work. now my question do i need a roll and pull? or will just a roll suffice thanks in advance

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f5/alexanderig/08058d38.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f5/alexanderig/7920b3cb.jpg

[zooopreme]

For the fronts, if the coilovers can go lower, you can hammer the lips and give it a slight roll. How much camber is in the front anyway?

For the rears, you're going to need more camber to go lower so you're going to need new arms that can dial in more camber & to try to keep the toe as close to zero. After that you're going to need a slight roll and possibly a slight pull.

[frsh4]

Roll and pull and lower. Try lowering it all the way and decided what you got to do. Shouldnt take long to lower all the way. What tire size are you running and offset? Looks like the new xxr +25 but pretty sure your running spacers.

[alexanderig]

I already have all arms in the back for adjustability. I'm going to roll and pull my fenders now, and then go lower. As for camber I'm maxed in the front in the rear -.5. I'm trying to keep it minimal in the rear since it gets drifted. And in the front I'm running 10mm spacers and in the rear nothing. After this I'll probably throw a little more camber in the back.

[Wake]

who told you half a degree was good for driftiing?

I would say your going to need to go to at least -1.5

[frsh4]

Also your fronts dont look maxed out.

[alexanderig]

my fronts are no where near maxed out. im going to go lower and increase camber in the back soon. today i just rolled the rears with a small pull, and in the front i just bent the tabs in the front. more low coming soon and more camber in the rear. ill post pics when its all done

[CleanAndLegit]

too much poke is ugly -____-

[alexanderig]

thats why this is a question thread and not a fitment thread. its a work in progress

[JDMStanced]

hey guys
i picked up 19x9 and 19x10.5
Are the tires sizes 225/40 and 245/40 considered stretched for these rims? i have a 350z and looking to have the rims sticking out of the fender. +1 offset with spacers.
Lowered enough that the sidewall touches the fenders

[EhrikETFG]

In order to tuck rim in the future, what company arms should I buy? Are some more partial for crazy low compared to others? thanks

[San Diego Kouki]

Sup guys, I have a kouki S14 and I think I'm buying 18x9.5 +12 wheels. I've talked to a few people and from what I got, I'm going to have to run -2 camber and get my fenders rolled. Now the only concern I have is if I'm going to be rubbing on the inner wheel wells? I just want the wheels to be flush with the fenders, Have and inch and a half distance between my fenders and wheels and not have to run negative camber, it's my daily.

[95KA-Turbo]

hey guys
i picked up 19x9 and 19x10.5
Are the tires sizes 225/40 and 245/40 considered stretched for these rims? i have a 350z and looking to have the rims sticking out of the fender. +1 offset with spacers.
Lowered enough that the sidewall touches the fenders

You should run 35 series side walls with 19s...and yes they'll be stretched. Outside of rolling your fenders and lowering the car you should be good with just bolting those to your Z.

In order to tuck rim in the future, what company arms should I buy? Are some more partial for crazy low compared to others? thanks

SPL, Fortune Auto, or Parts Shop Max. They all use quality products and have a nice range of adjustment, but SPL is a nicer product overall then PSM or FA.

Sup guys, I have a kouki S14 and I think I'm buying 18x9.5 +12 wheels. I've talked to a few people and from what I got, I'm going to have to run -2 camber and get my fenders rolled. Now the only concern I have is if I'm going to be rubbing on the inner wheel wells? I just want the wheels to be flush with the fenders, Have and inch and a half distance between my fenders and wheels and not have to run negative camber, it's my daily.

What sized tires were you going to run? You will need to beat out your inner fender wells up front, that's just what you have to do if you run wide wheels and slam your car. You can run a 225/40 or 215/40 up front to keep the hammering to a minimum, but unless you just painted your engine bay you aren't hurting anything if you go to town with a sledge hammer on the front back and top of your wheel well. I recommend removing the fenders if you aren't very accurate at hammering.

[JDMStanced]

i used this website to calculate the stretch
Online Wheel & Tyre Fitment calculator. Offset and Tyre Stretch (http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=9&offset=26&width2=215&aspect2=35&diameter2=19&wheelwidth2=9&offset2=26&Submit=Submit)
going from 245 to 215 reduces the diamter around .8"..-_- (which mean .8" drop) is this right?
if it's true, i gotta go 40 profile

[San Diego Kouki]

Cool thanks, 95 KA-Turbo. Do you know if negative camber is a must still? Im not trying to be slammed down I want that Two finger gap between the tire and the fender

[95KA-Turbo]

Cool thanks, 95 KA-Turbo. Do you know if negative camber is a must still? Im not trying to be slammed down I want that Two finger gap between the tire and the fender

Oh, if you want a gap like that I would recommend getting a less aggressive wheel and running square tires. Get some 18X9 +20 or something like that and run 255/35s. Negative camber is apart of a factory alignment. If you're worried about tire wear you should be more concerned with toe settings. Having -2 camber or even -2.5 camber will not significantly wear your tires down. Just keep and eye on your tires and get them rotated to keep wear even.


i used this website to calculate the stretch
Online Wheel & Tyre Fitment calculator. Offset and Tyre Stretch (http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=9&offset=26&width2=215&aspect2=35&diameter2=19&wheelwidth2=9&offset2=26&Submit=Submit)
going from 245 to 215 reduces the diamter around .8"..-_- (which mean .8" drop) is this right?
if it's true, i gotta go 40 profile

I thought you wanted to run 225s and 245s? :confused:

[JDMStanced]

I thought you wanted to run 225s and 245s? :confused:

think i'm going to go 215/35 and 235/35.
225 doesn't give me the stretch i want.

[codyf44]

alright i decided on 18s for my s14. i want to get rota grids i believe but i need to know what offset i can run without spacers or fender modifications and clear the coilovers on front..go easy on me

[zooopreme]

You didn't specify width, but I believe grids in 18" only came in 9.5" +15.

With that said, 9.5 +15 will fit & they will clear the coilovers. However, the only way you can be low with that size is stretched tires with a slight roll, slight pull, and camber.

Matter of fact, here's a pic of Grids 18X9.5" +15 on a S14:

He's running 225/40 up front and 245/40 in the rear.
You could try running a monster stretch with 215/40 all around or a less extreme stretch with 225/40 all around if you want to get low.

http://rimtuck.com/photos/1231895938.jpg
http://rimtuck.com/photos/1231895950.jpg

[Sarom_ps13]

Q: On an s13 18x10 +25 with 225/40 up front and 235/40 in the rear. Would i need spacers? pretty sure i need a roll possibly a pull. inputs? Thanks

[frsh4]

Depends how low you are. If you slammed a small spacer will help like a 10 mm cuz 25mm with a stretch tire is gonna be a little sunk.

[Sarom_ps13]

Yeah i figured. i have coilovers and its not slammed yet. so would u say about 10-15mm spacer all around?

[frsh4]

Yeah i figured. i have coilovers and its not slammed yet. so would u say about 10-15mm spacer all around?

Depends on what you are willing to do because 10mm is a effective +15mm which is a roll and small pull, 15mm spacer is about the same but bigger pull and a little bit more camber.

[95KA-Turbo]

A 10 +25 will not clear your coilovers up front. You'll need to space it out around 13mm to clear your coils...that will make it a bit of a bitch to fit up front. S13s don't like wheels over 9.5 up front without tubs or widebody. You can definitely do it, but it'll take some work.

A 10 +25 with a 235 requires a slight pull on S13s out back, so you will not need spacers....unless you're trying to run like neg 4-5 camber.

A 9 +15 with a 215 fits just about perfect with -3 camber and a roll. The 10 +25 fits 3mm further out then that...plus a 235 is wider.

[codyf44]

ya im not slammin it just low enough to not like monster truck lol. thanks for the info!

[Sarom_ps13]

Thanks alot guys. now i have a better aspect on what i need to do.

[codyf44]

wheel dude has 18x9.5+20 for the 5x114.3.. only +15 in the 18x10...or 18x8.5 +44...18x9.5 +38

[95KA-Turbo]

Do the 9.5 up front with a 5mm spacer and 10 out back with no spacer. 225/40s and 235/40s for a medium stretch, and 215/40s and 225/40s for a more aggressive stretch.

That should clear your front coils no problem and allow for decent clearance. Go for the larger tires if you don't want to slam it too much.

Do you have a zenki or kouki S14?

[s14rb26]

Hey guys ive searched but could find the answer I was looking for. I have a s14 I have ait 30mm d1 series front fenders and 30mm rear fender overlays I want to run 18x9.5 +12 offset rota p45r all around I was wondering if this wheel offset would be flush or if I have to run spacer I don't want to much Camber would prefer oem camber specs. Also what tire size would you guys recommend

[chuki.s13.coupe.]

I want my car to look like the cars in Dorroughs music video Ice Cream Paint job.

So my Question is what do i need to put 22"s, if possible 24"s, on my s13?

[s14rb26]

This thread is to post your question about wheel fitment and is used to HELP EACH OTHER. This is not to talk shit about someone because they want to ask a question about fitment.

Rules:
1. SEARCH! If all fails come here. We are here to help.
2. No shit talking if your not gonna help someone out DONT POST!
3. Pics are not mandatory but will obviously help.
4. The main reason for this thread is to not clutter up the OG fitment thread and stop all the chit chatter.
5. An answer like yes or no obviously wont help so by posting a response your helping to make the question work. If it is seems like an impossible setup a simple no is ok. Make you response useful.

EX: Q: Will a 18x10 +18 fit on an s13?
A: Yes with some camber and stretched tire. Suggested setup 225/40 about 2.3* of camber maybe less with small pull.

Pic: http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/dirtychuki91/P1160729_sm.jpg


SIMPLE! JUST SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE! :naughty:

ANY SUGGESTIONS TO THE THREAD PLEASE PM ME. ITS MY FIRST BIG THREAD. HEHE.
What wheels are these

[chuki.s13.coupe.]

Work Emotion XD9 ^

[95KA-Turbo]

I want my car to look like the cars in Dorroughs music video Ice Cream Paint job.

So my Question is what do i need to put 22"s, if possible 24"s, on my s13?

LOL, please tell me you're serious.


24s will NOT fit on a S13, they barely 'fit' on a 2000 Mustang, lol.

I'd say 21/20 stagger (bigger up front), lower it till the fender is at the wheel lip all around. Then ride in style. Mission accomplished.

[zooopreme]

I want my car to look like the cars in Dorroughs music video Ice Cream Paint job.

So my Question is what do i need to put 22"s, if possible 24"s, on my s13?

with a slight tuck and stretched tires, it can happen :eek3d:

[chuki.s13.coupe.]

with a slight tuck and stretched tires, it can happen :eek3d:
But I want to be high off the ground like a "BOSS"

[NHTKID]

My question is for those S13 owners, how much of a pull for the rears will be needed for 10" +18?

I can't tell how much of a pull the couple on the front page has. But it doesn't look like much. I've seen a hatch that was higher off the ground with the same wheel specs and he had to pull the fenders about ~25mm. The hatch is running a 10mm spacer but let's imagine the car without one, will that kind of pull be necessary?

Generally, do coupes have wider wheel wells? Or am I trippin out?

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/dirtychuki91/P1160729_sm.jpg

http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936628.jpg



what the heck are the wheel and tire specs on that hatch?! its flawless. seems to be semi functional and still flush.

[NHTKID]

got any better pics of it?

[unreal-]

what the heck are the wheel and tire specs on that hatch?! its flawless. seems to be semi functional and still flush.

from the looks of the wheel face...id guess 18x9.5 or 10.5 and between +12 and +19 offset (effective)

tires, probably 235 or 245/40 front, and 255 or 265/35 rear.

[zooopreme]

what the heck are the wheel and tire specs on that hatch?! its flawless. seems to be semi functional and still flush.

17x10 +18 all around, 10mm spacers in the rear. Running Federal RT615 (235/40) up front (so that's like a 245/40) and Yokohama S-Drives (245/40)

http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936501.jpg
http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936537.jpg
http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936574.jpg

[gsxr141]

looks just right.

[Mikey McFly]

It's not really a question about wheels but it has to do with fitment and all that jazz.
Anyways, I was trying to figure out what size front wide fender would I need to match up the width of the stock rear end, so I can use the same size and offset all around but not have to use different tire sizes on the front and rear?
Kinda see what I'm getting at?

[NHTKID]

17x10 +18 all around, 10mm spacers in the rear. Running Federal RT615 (235/40) up front (so that's like a 245/40) and Yokohama S-Drives (245/40)

http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936501.jpg
http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936537.jpg
http://rimtuck.com/photos/1247936574.jpg

ya your car sits perfectly in my opinion, nice job.. was pulling that rear difficult cause of the double layer metal?

[cjmirabal1]

Not really a question if the wheel would fit but im about to aquire a set of 180sx kouki wheels (16x8). would anyone know if z32 calipers would fit with em? i searched but couldnt find a deffinate yes or no

[zooopreme]

Not really a question if the wheel would fit but im about to aquire a set of 180sx kouki wheels (16x8). would anyone know if z32 calipers would fit with em? i searched but couldnt find a deffinate yes or no

are you talking about these wheels?

http://img131.exs.cx/img131/3152/wheels20002.jpg

if so, they came in 15", I think the specs are similar to the 7 spoke SE wheels in which case will not fit 30mm calipers without spacers: 15mm would be the smallest.

The problem with Z32 brakes + SE wheels isn't offset, it was spoke design. If you have 26mm calipers, it wouldn't really matter because those fit perfectly with SE wheels.

[cjmirabal1]

are you talking about these wheels?

http://img131.exs.cx/img131/3152/wheels20002.jpg

if so, they came in 15", I think the specs are similar to the 7 spoke SE wheels in which case will not fit 30mm calipers without spacers: 15mm would be the smallest.

The problem with Z32 brakes + SE wheels isn't offset, it was spoke design. If you have 26mm calipers, it wouldn't really matter because those fit perfectly with SE wheels.


15in? i was mistaken then.... they are the aluminum z32 calipers.

thanks for the info, i can do more focused research from this

[95KA-Turbo]

ya your car sits perfectly in my opinion, nice job.. was pulling that rear difficult cause of the double layer metal?

S13 rear fenders pull really easy, you just have to heat them up and do it slowly so they are smooth.

[Zhanshi]

I've been looking through a bunch of threads, but haven't found a definitive answer :(

Will 17x9 +12 wheels with 245/40/17 star specs fit under s13 front fenders with a pull or should I just go with overfenders?

I have some 17x8 +24 with 225/45/17 wheels on my car now and they are flush with stock fenders and ~0.5 degrees of camber. The star specs run wider than normal as well.

zoopreme your wheel fitment is perfect! How much camber are you running in the front and what kind of work did you do to the fender?

I'm hoping I can get my fitment close to that for autocross without overfenders.

[zooopreme]

Will 17x9 +12 wheels with 245/40/17 star specs fit under s13 front fenders with a pull or should I just go with overfenders?

I have some 17x8 +24 with 225/45/17 wheels on my car now and they are flush with stock fenders and ~0.5 degrees of camber. The star specs run wider than normal as well.

How much camber are you running in the front and what kind of work did you do to the fender?



I don't think 17X9 +12 will fit with 245/40 with star specs tires on them without overs. The tire and size are too meaty.

You may not want to stretch tires but have you thought about running like a 215/45? Seems to be a popular choice for those specs.

And to answer the question about the hatch (jimmytang00 of WFC), the fenders were rolled & the pull was about 25mm. Camber in the front is -2.3* and the rears are -3.5*, the rears could have been less if there wasn't a 10mm spacer.

The coilovers are Apexi N1 which are one of the only coilovers (next to Megan Racing) that can accommodate a 10" +18 wheel without spacers.

[nismobenzo]

im going from a 17x10.5-11(225/45) on my front stock body s13 to a 17x9-6(205/45)
using this picture as reference-do you think it should sit perfectly flush/poke a tiny bit?
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254439_10150629126490475_868860474_19370923_281212 1_n.jpg

[simmode1]

The coilovers are Apexi N1 which are one of the only coilovers (next to Megan Racing) that can accommodate a 10" +18 wheel without spacers.
Thank God you're in this thread. I had been trying to get ahold of you for the longest time. I'm trying to figure out if the Apexi N1 EXV coilover will accomodate the same amount of wheel/tire as your coilovers. Yours are older N1 Pro's, right?

If the newer N1 EXV's won't work out as well, I plan to use Megan Tracks with their 25mm extended brackets to run 17x10+20 with 245/40 tires up front. Is running these sizes just an issue of removing the inner fender lining and a little 'massaging' with a BFH or is there more that I need to be aware of? What can I expect?

Edit: This is for an S13 hatch, BTW...

[zooopreme]

You know, I'm not too sure if there is a difference between the Pro's and the EXV's bottom mounts are. But eyeballing it, the Pros could be a bit longer. Of that, I'm not TOO sure.

But if there are more sharper eyes & a more vivid imagination, here are the Pros compared to the EXV's

Here are the Pros:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n169/mrmikeman/IMG_3983.jpg

And here are the EVX's:
http://worksconceptscom.siteprotect.net/apexi_exv_s14.jpg

But with your plan to get the 25mm extended brackets, that should be a sure thing, they will work for sure.

As for those sizes, no matter what, you will need to do some fender work, roll/pull/harness tuck/etc. 10" up front is really WIDE for the S13 & making it work is a hassle. Removing the fender liner is a must but modifying it like Broadfield did here (http://zilvia.net/f/chat/344753-s13-fender-liner-how.html) is a great alternative to keep it looking OEM.

[simmode1]

Thanks Zoopreme. That was helpful.:bigok:

[Zhanshi]

Yep, thanks for the help zooopreme!

Im actually on KWs and they have close to stock length lower brackets that have been giving me countless clearance issues up front. Yea, it looks like only wide fenders will work up front. Unfortunately, I live in Hawaii so shipping those fenders are going to cost me an arm and a leg :(

As for the tire sizes, I currently have 225 RE-01s up front and was hoping to get more traction with the 245s. Just need to make the wheels and tires fit now haha

[slowvia]

Just a quick question, Ive been playing with a couple ideas for wheels lately because Im sick of running a 16" wheel on my s13.
Option 1- Ive been thinking of running Z33 25th anniversary wheels in 18x8 and was wondering how much spacer it would take to make it look semi-flush. I dont plan on running a rediculous amount of camber, but I dont want it to look too sunk either. And has anyone done this before? I dont think Ive seen anyone actually bring them out to the fender on an s13.
Option 2- Ive also been thinking about getting a set of Varrestone's TE reps in 18x9 up front and 18x10 out back, but what offset would be best with a very slight pull in the back? Ive been thinking +15 front and rear running 215/45 in the back and 215/40 up front. Suggestions? Corrections?

[95KA-Turbo]

Option 2 is your best bet....but I was under the impression you would have to get 18X9.5 and 10.5 because they don't make whole sizes, only halfs.

That being said I'd get a 18X9.5 +15 and 18X10.5 +22 with 215/40s and 225/40s, that should only require a slight pull out back.

OR

You could run their new 17X9 +12 up front with 215/40s and 18X9.5 +12 out back with 215/40s. That would be nice and make your front fitment easier to deal with.

[frsh4]

Run the varreston 9 +12 with 215/40 with good amount of camber. And rear with +15 225/40 on a 10j you are gonna need a pull and some camber also. It will look 1000x better.

Edit: dammit 95ka beat me to it again. Ha. S13 also is a 17/18 must.

[slowvia]

Right on thanks guys! The only reason Im considering the Z's is that theyre a good looking 18" wheel thats dirt cheap. I probably will end up doing 9.5 +15 up front and 10.5 +22 out back, the less I need to pull the better. Oh and theyll be 18's all around, I just want that extra little bit of clearance in the front without compromising fender gap.

[simmode1]

Slowvia, Don't forget about China Mustangs... 18x9 and 18x10's for dirt cheap...

[frsh4]

Mustangs look good also for the price.

[slowvia]

Slowvia, Don't forget about China Mustangs... 18x9 and 18x10's for dirt cheap...

Haha, yeah Ive thought about it, some of those Cobra reps dont look too bad and have some pretty good offsets too. I actually really like these-click (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cobra-Series-427-Painted-Polished-Lip-18x9-5-5x4-5-/220304152133?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item334b269645#ht_536wt_897)Theyre two piece and you can get em in custom sizes and offsets, but theyre a little more spendy than those cheap reps!

[nismobenzo]

i just got my new cobra reps..fit great with some camber and fender rolls on stock bodies

[JonathanPrem]

Just got my tires installed and they filled it up so the tires can seat. Was wondering how much psi i should have in the wheels. Wheels are 215/40 on 9.5 and 225/40 on 10.5

[nismobenzo]

40-45 is typical

[DoriftoPnoy]

Does anyone have rubbing issues with a 18x10 with 225/40/18 ss595 federal up front on a s14? Car will be slammed.

[towlie]

An 18x10 in the front will probably rub regardless of tire size, do work with your favorite hammer

[DoriftoPnoy]

The front fenders are rolled and might do a slight pull. Are you saying to hammer the inside of the wheel well? Cuz thats the area that im sure will be rubbing.

[95KA-Turbo]

What offset? I was running a 17X10 +7 with a 245/40 up front with minimal rubbing. It would rub at full lock and on a few places on the inside of the wheel well, but nothing that messed the tire up or made noise.

That's on a kouki though, a zenki would need to run a small 235/40 to fit and maybe a slight pull.

[DoriftoPnoy]

18x10 +10 i heard federal sidewalls run bigger so im trying to decide on 225/40 or 225/35...

[Craftsman]

I am looking for wheel and tire specs for a zenki. If someone was to have a square tire setup or a little wider, all wheel offsets the same, stock suspension alignment specs, no spacers, tire size the same and your car has a fender roll only, what is the wheel width (please include the lowest and highest offset) that wont rub when you put tires on? I don’t think ride height play’s into this as you can buy links and bars to adjust you back into stock camber/caster/toe specs. I know the zenki’s are generally 5mm less wide in the front than a kouki, so would Indolent's setup fall under what I am trying to do? what would look different / same? any rubbing issues?

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread-6.html

[95KA-Turbo]

18x10 +10 i heard federal sidewalls run bigger so im trying to decide on 225/40 or 225/35...

Federals just run bigger over all, sidewall and width, but you should be fine with a 225/40 regardless because it'll be like you're running a small 235.

I am looking for wheel and tire specs for a zenki. If someone was to have a square tire setup or a little wider, all wheel offsets the same, stock suspension alignment specs, no spacers, tire size the same and your car has a fender roll only, what is the wheel width (please include the lowest and highest offset) that wont rub when you put tires on? I don’t think ride height play’s into this as you can buy links and bars to adjust you back into stock camber/caster/toe specs. I know the zenki’s are generally 5mm less wide in the front than a kouki, so would Indolent's setup fall under what I am trying to do? what would look different / same? any rubbing issues?

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread-6.html

Its difficult to follow exactly what you're asking, but yes his set up will work on a zenki. He looks to have maybe 1 deg of front camber, if you had coilovers and were to run ~-2.5 up front and ~-2 out back you'll be just fine with his set up. That amount of camber will be beneficial to handling and wont eat your tires up.

[titopr06]

sooo,
i got 18x9.5 +12 with 225/40/18 for rear on s13 i have oem rucas and my fenders are just rolled.
will i need a pull to tuck some tire under there?

[Dustxking]

^My 18x9.5 +22 225/40/18 slightly rubs, with -.5 camber, If your 10 offset lower, i would recommend just a roll no pull. When i put my 25mm spacers on i do need a roll and a slight pull. But nothing major.

[titopr06]

^My 18x9.5 +22 225/40/18 slightly rubs, with -.5 camber, If your 10 offset lower, i would recommend just a roll no pull. When i put my 25mm spacers on i do need a roll and a slight pull. But nothing major.

thanks, my rear fenders are rolled pretty good, so hopefully i can just dial some camber in and lower the car a bit! thanks for the help.

[di-devol]

Got a question about getting the rear end to go lower. With megan streets, once I remove the collars the coil bottoms out in the sleeve. There is a little lip preventing the coil from going farther into the sleeve. I could easily file down this little lip to get the coil to thread farther. If I can get it lower I can finish fitting them.

Safe or unsafe?

How it sits now:

17x9.75 +5 -3* f/17.975 +25 -2ish* r


http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/di-devol/SDC12848.jpg
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/di-devol/SDC12851.jpg

[zooopreme]

^if you file it down, do you plan on using the thread on the top half (before the lip)? I don't see why it would be dangerous unless the thread on the top half isn't the same size then that would be a problem.

[di-devol]

Thanks for the reply.

It's more like a stopper inside the sleeve for the bottom mount. I was just wondering if there was some "reason" as to why they put a stop there. The threads are the same.

[zooopreme]

Ah I see, I'm not certain as to if that's a real big deal or not...I want to say "they're there for a reason" but at the same time, I don't see why something would go wrong if it's just a slight drop passed the initial stopper point.

[808drft]

hey I tried searching but no luck. Im wanting to pull my camber out to -0.5 of close to it. I have 17x9 spaced out to +8 with -2* camber and roll and pulled my fenders ~15mm. Dont really want to pull anymore so will a 30mm fender maybe pushed in a bit be flush?? If not ill just take out the hammer and pull more

[alwaysideways14]

ok so ive never ran rear over fenders before and i just came up on a BN blister kit..which the rears are 70m and the front are 50m.. what would be a good size to run to get some good fitment i know im gonna need some really wide wheels and low offset but not too sure exactly oh and its on a s13 hatch anyone? thanks

[Wake]

do all these people with VRT sigs have anything to do with VRT?

[alwaysideways14]

do all these people with VRT sigs have anything to do with VRT?

well i hope i mean i dont have it cause it looks cool

[Wake]

Never know these days.

No offense I just dont know of many VRT members having fitment questions.

[Flashman]

Got a question about getting the rear end to go lower. With megan streets, once I remove the collars the coil bottoms out in the sleeve. There is a little lip preventing the coil from going farther into the sleeve. I could easily file down this little lip to get the coil to thread farther. If I can get it lower I can finish fitting them.

you can droop the rear springs so that the last collar is touching the top of the sleeve to go lower

[alwaysideways14]

Never know these days.

No offense I just dont know of many VRT members having fitment questions.

like i said im running pretty big over fenders and have not ran them before..so i just wanted some one else point of view before doing it what i was gonna do in the first place my bad bro

[S14kouki_10]

18x10 +10 i heard federal sidewalls run bigger so im trying to decide on 225/40 or 225/35...

yes it will rub the wheel well, you cant even slam it. I'm having the same problem now 225/40 s drives, going down to 225/35 up front.

[Wake]

lol i wasnt trying to be a dick no need for apologies.

No biggie

[95KA-Turbo]

ok so ive never ran rear over fenders before and i just came up on a BN blister kit..which the rears are 70m and the front are 50m.. what would be a good size to run to get some good fitment i know im gonna need some really wide wheels and low offset but not too sure exactly oh and its on a s13 hatch anyone? thanks

Going off my personal opinion that 9 +12 w/ a 215/40 is basically perfect on a stock body S13 - you can fit a 12 -20 out back and a 10 -25 up front. If you wanted to run 10s and 11s you could do the 10 -25 up front and 11 -33. You'd probably need to run 225/40s and 245/40s on the 10/11 and 225/40s and 255/35s on the 10/12.

I should note that is all based on calculation alone, not personal experience. I would imagine that would also include ~3 deg of camber all around.

[h2v7]

ok i have a s13 coupe

whats the most aggressive wheels spec i can put on it without spacers or rolling or pulling my fender

was looking at rota grids 17 x 9.25 +12
or
xxr 527 17x9.75 +25

would either of these work i would prefer the xxr if they fit easy

thanks!

[zooopreme]

Rota Grids don't come in 9.25, do they? I think they only have a 9-9.5. So I assuming you're talking about the 9.5"

Running aggressive sizes will require rolling/pulling your fenders. 9.5 +12 in the rear is going to need a roll & a slight pull depending how low you go & depending on your tire sizes.

527's require spacers up front to clear any coilovers, the smallest spacer size that I've seen (so far) was 8mm. But maybe somebody can chime in and say that smaller size spacers will work.

And even then you will require rolling the fenders & a slight pull.

My Question: on Rota's site, are the IK-R's supposed to be the new name for the Grids? I tried looking for "Grids" and they didn't seem to have it & the IK-R's look real similar to the 17" Grids.

[h2v7]

thank you for the info! yes your right on the grids 17 x 9.5 +12

what about the xxr 527 17 x 8.25 +25

?

[zooopreme]

^please don't lol

if you want a flush fitment, you'll need spacers for the wheels to even get close to the fenders (and maybe to clear the coils, I'm not 100% on whether they clear or not). But I mean if a non-aggressive fitment is what you want, go for it.

There was actually a thread that I found, apparently a 20mm spacer + 8.25 will serve the same as the 9.75" --http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/391651-xxr-527-17x8-25-25-a.html

[J.Lupe]

Ok so before I pull the trigger I want to know if this combo will even work. Im currently deployed and I figure if I'm gonna buy the baller a** SSR wheels I want, might as well do it up the first time around. 17x9.5 0 offset for the front with 225/35R-17 and the rears are 17x12.0 -7 offset with a 275/40R-17 tire. The tires are Yokohama S drives, I've been reading all the pages and taking notes. I'll be staying 4x114.3 and am wondering will I have to run spacers and if so what size? I was looking at the Project Kics 20mm and 30mm spacers.I also would like to know what would be the best disk to run. I'm ordering a bunch of parts every month for my build and am settling on the same coilovers I got from S*A*G*E auto in Va beach the first time(sold that 240 though), Fortune Auto 500 series. Any info and input would greatly be a appreciated. If I get flamed oh well, I just dont want to waste my money on some wheels I wouldn't be able to fit on my car and it not look right. I understand overfenders will be needed(20mm front and 50mm rears by Origin will be ordered in December) when I get all my parts and I get home a full build thread will be made up. Thanx in advance

[J.Lupe]

***There going on a S13 coupe, sorry forgot to mention that in there.

[zooopreme]

EDIT: nvm, you posted it

[hellion240sx]

Question...
I have stock unmolested 97 fenders, Don't want to do any pulling or rolling. I am thinking of getting either 15x8 +0 225/50/15 or 225/60/15. Or 16x8 +0 with 225/50/16 or 225/60/16 I would like to have some meat in there. I like the look. I don't really like the rubber band tires (35 or 40). I know it's not 255 like others on here, But its all stock motor. No need for tires that wide..... yet..... leaning more towards the 15x8s

Plans are this combo, aftermarket arms, sways, c/o, have just not installed. don't plan on going slammed just a little bit lower. We have potholes here with their own facebook page. Yeah it's THAT bad.

about time we have a "will it fit thread" :)

[zooopreme]

@J.Lupe- Is that kind of stagger beneficial in a performance aspect?

Anyway, 9.5" 0 is fine for the fronts especially if you're going to go with 20mm overs.

As for the rears, I would STRONGLY recommend a smaller width. If more grip is what you're looking for a 10.5 with meaty tires should do you fine.

But if you seriously want to run the 12", 17X12 -18 will work. Alistair ran those with fender flares + stretched tires so with 50mm overs, that should be fine.

@hellion240Sx- Go with the 16's and run 205's with the tires please, 15's on a S14 look awkward & they will fit but you will need a roll at least.

This is a 17X8.0 +30...do the math with a 0.

http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1234588348.jpg

[J.Lupe]

Thanks! Its not for a performance aspect, I just honestly want to have a nice set of wide wheels especially the SSR's, love a fat lip on SP1's! I'm ordering another set of wheels for that setup, more than like they'll be some Enkei RPF1's, thanks again zoopreme.

[coupster]

i used this website to calculate the stretch
Online Wheel & Tyre Fitment calculator. Offset and Tyre Stretch (http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=9&offset=26&width2=215&aspect2=35&diameter2=19&wheelwidth2=9&offset2=26&Submit=Submit)
going from 245 to 215 reduces the diamter around .8"..-_- (which mean .8" drop) is this right?
if it's true, i gotta go 40 profile

Man this is a good tool to have definitely going to book mark this!

[hellion240sx]

@hellion240Sx- Go with the 16's and run 205's with the tires please, 15's on a S14 look awkward & they will fit but you will need a roll at least.

This is a 17X8.0 +30...do the math with a 0.

http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1234588348.jpg

yeah 0 offset = molestation

I have seen pics of an s14 kouki on some xxrs that were 15s I liked the look. But I want to fit some 225 on there. I want the wider footprint. hard to find the pics i saw. I tried. Even googled. This was a loooong time ago mind you :/ I tried looking for something with a higher (gasp I know) offset but I really can't find anything i like.... without spending $1000 on rims alone. I have lost my 240 ways... been dabbling in the miata realm :D And I know 15x7 won't fit the 225s. All the 15x8s are crazy low offsets. I was at one point okay with rolling fenders, but I have changed my mind. might just throw some tires on the stock mesh 15s :/

[Sarom_ps13]

Ok real quick starion wheels on s13

there are 2 sets of fronts.

16x7 with +18 offset
16x8 with +18 offset

there are also 2 sets of rears

16x8 with -11 offset
16x9 with 0 offset

Which set would suit best?

[Wake]

16x8 +18 offset
16x9 +0 offset

IMO

[zooopreme]

^what he said

[240drifter1]

15x8 +0 on an s14
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/kornothekob/002-2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/kornothekob/003-1.jpg

[Sarom_ps13]

Would i need spacers? i read on nico i think someone said they had to use like a huge spacer to clear z brake?

[daftphunk]

Sup.

My car is decently low. Actually it's pretty damn low but not so much slammed as some other people's car. Anyways, I'm running 225/40 on a 9.5J right now and wondering how much more of a difference going to a 215/40 would make? I basically rub the top of the wheel arc after every bump. I have thought about 215/35 but would prefer the 215/40 probably. I'm aware tire brand will make a difference but a general estimation would be nice. I'm running a 225/40 Federal 595 and would consider keeping it a federal or something along those lines.

[xpinoyxmk]

See if anyone can help me out.

Have cobra reps 17x9 +25 front wheels coming and i have evo brembos up front. Right now im running 17x9.5 +15 battles that clear the brakes.

My question is how big of a spacer will i need to clear the brembo's with the cobra reps?

Was thinking a 15mm but not sure. When i get the wheels, ill measure it by putting washers on the studs to space them out but just trying to see if anyone can help me out to see if im close to the right spacer.

[sickstatus]

anyone know if you can run low disk wheels with a big brake kit like z32 brakes, brembos etc.

[frsh4]

Sup.

My car is decently low. Actually it's pretty damn low but not so much slammed as some other people's car. Anyways, I'm running 225/40 on a 9.5J right now and wondering how much more of a difference going to a 215/40 would make? I basically rub the top of the wheel arc after every bump. I have thought about 215/35 but would prefer the 215/40 probably. I'm aware tire brand will make a difference but a general estimation would be nice. I'm running a 225/40 Federal 595 and would consider keeping it a federal or something along those lines.

I had 215/40 dunlop and federal and the difference is noticeable where the feds rubbed and dunlop didnt. So yes try a 215/40 just not federal.

[sincity_sil80]

See if anyone can help me out.

Have cobra reps 17x9 +25 front wheels coming and i have evo brembos up front. Right now im running 17x9.5 +15 battles that clear the brakes.

My question is how big of a spacer will i need to clear the brembo's with the cobra reps?

Was thinking a 15mm but not sure. When i get the wheels, ill measure it by putting washers on the studs to space them out but just trying to see if anyone can help me out to see if im close to the right spacer.

Somebody correct me if im wrong but, in theory you shouldnt need any additional spacer considering there is only roughly a 2mm difference in question. Your battles are 1/2in. wider than the reps coming in right?
But the reps have +10mm difference, so if 25.4mm=1in. then half of that is like 12.7mm. the difference between 12.7 and 10mm is 2.7mm which is very little. Again, somebody feel free to chime in.

[sincity_sil80]

btw this thread is full of win, its like an am pm "too much good stuff"

[xpinoyxmk]

Somebody correct me if im wrong but, in theory you shouldnt need any additional spacer considering there is only roughly a 2mm difference in question. Your battles are 1/2in. wider than the reps coming in right?
But the reps have +10mm difference, so if 25.4mm=1in. then half of that is like 12.7mm. the difference between 12.7 and 10mm is 2.7mm which is very little. Again, somebody feel free to chime in.

If you look at the battles, you would see that they are concave while the reps arent.

[sincity_sil80]

oh nvm then, didnt take that into consideration

[zooopreme]

Would i need spacers? i read on nico i think someone said they had to use like a huge spacer to clear z brake?

If you're referring to the XXR's, yes, you will need spacers. The spoke design doesn't accommodate Z32 brakes.

Anyways, I'm running 225/40 on a 9.5J right now and wondering how much more of a difference going to a 215/40 would make? I basically rub the top of the wheel arc after every bump. I have thought about 215/35 but would prefer the 215/40 probably. I'm aware tire brand will make a difference but a general estimation would be nice. I'm running a 225/40 Federal 595 and would consider keeping it a federal or something along those lines.

Federals tend to run bigger than posted spec. So by theory, you're really running a 235/40.

Like the frsh4 said, feds rubbed & dunlops didn't. The reason is because they run bigger than other brands.

Try 215/40 Feds, if they still rub, jump ship to 215's on another brand like Dunlop.

35 sidewalls is a bit of an overkill for stretching. Keep it at a 40.


Have cobra reps 17x9 +25 front wheels coming and i have evo brembos up front. Right now im running 17x9.5 +15 battles that clear the brakes.

My question is how big of a spacer will i need to clear the brembo's with the cobra reps?

Was thinking a 15mm but not sure. When i get the wheels, ill measure it by putting washers on the studs to space them out but just trying to see if anyone can help me out to see if im close to the right spacer.

Well, without the spacers, you will have 4mm less inner clearance than you had before. And 16mm outer clearance from the fender.

I'm not 100% but don't Cobras clear big brake kits? Is this an issue of disc design?

Anyway, I think a 15mm should be fine.

[ChucEO]

hey, im new to zilvia. i had a question regarding a problem im having atm.

i've just lowered my s13, but on the front in the wheel well my tires are rubbing directly on the wheel well wall, also rubbing against the rubber stopper that the harness enters.

im running on 18 x 9 +15 w/ 225/40/zr18

i need a solution to this problem ASAP, what can i do to modify the wheel well possibly?

thanks.

[sidewayz240]

what can i do to modify the wheel well possibly?

Hammer.

msg

[frsh4]

Or smaller tire or more camber.

[ChucEO]

i considered more camber, but i wasnt sure if that would eliminate the problem, but i suppose its worth a try. thanks

[BOROSUN]

wow you're hitting the harness grommet? ever check the caster? something damage?

[ChucEO]

yeah, im hitting it, and no i haven't checked it.... thanks for saying that actually. i didnt even think about that.

[sincity_sil80]

go at it with a 5lb sledge. should do the trick

[Wake]

get that shit aligned first!

[fliprayzin240sx]

anyone know if you can run low disk wheels with a big brake kit like z32 brakes, brembos etc.

Simply put...FUCK NO. Sometimes, even regular disk faced Work wheels I've had, I had to run 8mm spacers. If its a low disk, expect to run atleast 11-13mm spacers.

Low disk VS-KFs...had to run 13mm spacers...
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_4215.jpg

[ayororo]

Hey guys i got a s13 hatch with rolled fenders and minimum pull/flare?

I bought 18.9.5+12 , rear 18x10.5+15

I dont want to run wide fenders but I am running camber
And will stretch the tires a little bit

And im on KTS coils

What fitment problemos will I have?

Or will i be fine? They are varrstoen te reps

[Sarom_ps13]

If you're referring to the XXR's, yes, you will need spacers. The spoke design doesn't accommodate Z32 brakes.



No i was talking about the Starion rims.

[Wake]

depending on your roll/pull they should fit.

try them. It shouldnt be too hard to figure out once you get them on

[zooopreme]

No i was talking about the Starion rims.

You may find problems with the fronts. I wouldn't know how to make them fit aside from spacers.

Hey guys i got a s13 hatch with rolled fenders and minimum pull/flare?

I bought 18.9.5+12 , rear 18x10.5+15

I dont want to run wide fenders but I am running camber
And will stretch the tires a little bit

And im on KTS coils

What fitment problemos will I have?

Or will i be fine? They are varrstoen te reps

That kind of fitment is fine but it all depends how low you want your car. If the car is moderately lowered, a roll & pull will tuck the rear tire at best.

The fronts are fine as well. Just do all necessary things to fix the inner fender & harness.

[hellion240sx]

15x8 +0 on an s14
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/kornothekob/002-2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/kornothekob/003-1.jpg

perfect! Have any specifics on it?
is that your car? So I can just pm you?

[simmode1]

Ok. Just picked up another S13. This time with Hicas. This might be a stupid question but: if you're planning for hellafllush wheel fitment with minimal clearance in the rear, do you HAVE to eliminate the HICAS on account of the rear wheels moving?

[zooopreme]

Just get rid of it. If there is minimal clearance where the wheel could be close to touch the coilover, then yes, it will start rubbing. If your tires are already hitting the fender, HICAS will cause it to rub in certain areas of the fender. It's not like the wheels are turning like the front but the fender to tire contact will certainly increase.

The point I'm trying to make is...HICAS just suck period. Get rid of it.

[simmode1]

^^^Hmmm... I thought so. I haven't gotten to drive this or any HICAS equipped car yet, so once I do, I'll see what fuss is about. If I like the HICAS in comparison to my other non-HICAS S13, I may just keep it and plan a more modest setup. I'm thinking of 17x10+20 255/40 rears on the HICAS car...

[bentmode360]

im putting on coils, wheels, and basic suspension arms this weekend and i have to fit 18x10+18 wheels on the front of an s13 with stock fenders.

im in need of some info and guidance on doin this the most simplest and right way (without hitting anything).

here are a couple questions that are goin thru my head.

-do i need spacers?
-do i need tubs?
-how much negitive camber should i run?
-where should i set my caster at?

anybody got a secret recipe they wanna give out?

[simmode1]

^^^What coilovers are you using? Most will not clear 18x10+18 without spacers... Zoopreme is the only person I know of that managed to do it...

Oh and is this S13 or s14?

[95KA-Turbo]

Minimum requirements:

10mm spacer
225/40/18s
Pulled front fenders
As much negative camber as possible
~7 caster and lots of hammering.

[240drifter1]

perfect! Have any specifics on it?
is that your car? So I can just pm you?
No specifics, and yeah it was mine lol. Just bought it bone stock, slammed on PBM coils, no alignment and threw the wheels on.

[1Day]

Hey guys I got a couple questions I'm looking to have answered.

1. Does anyone have an experiance with Dmax coils on an S14? I cant get my rears every low at all. Rears don't sit at the same heights either.
Max out
Right
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0319.jpg
Left
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0320.jpg

2. I have my front camber set at -1.5 degress camber on both sides but damn my camber plates aren't ever close to being the same.
Right
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0322.jpg
Left
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0321.jpg

[Persona]

Thats how alot of S14 Chassis seem to be, its funny me and about 4 other friends all have the right quarter panel a bit lower on the wheel. I know it sounds odd but we were just as awestruck, especially since most of ours have never been in an accident.

[1Day]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm pretty much the second owner of the car and its never been beat on to have any kind of out of the normal chassis stress. The car does have a low stance to it for daily use but I still though it would go lower. The front camber I don't get at all.. I don't see why the plate is max out on the right and I'm only getting 1.5 of neg camber... I did change the flca but they are as short as they will go.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0304.jpg

[95KA-Turbo]

S-chassis are not rigid at all, so as you drive around and hit bumps and dips for years and years they get way out of whack.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm pretty much the second owner of the car and its never been beat on to have any kind of out of the normal chassis stress. The car does have a low stance to it for daily use but I still though it would go lower. The front camber I don't get at all.. I don't see why the plate is max out on the right and I'm only getting 1.5 of neg camber... I did change the flca but they are as short as they will go.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0304.jpg


Are you're coilovers slotted at the strut mount? Most of the time, people's camber plate are off because they didnt realize the strut mounts are slotted and they bolted them in without thinking about it.

[1Day]

Not sure I'll have to check them out.

Ok maybe I'm not sure what you mean. Heres a picture of the uppers off the car, if that helps. Sorry 1st set of coils I've ever had....

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/d4-1.jpg

[Zenki_516]

Thats how alot of S14 Chassis seem to be, its funny me and about 4 other friends all have the right quarter panel a bit lower on the wheel. I know it sounds odd but we were just as awestruck, especially since most of ours have never been in an accident.

Noticed this on every chassis I have had.

[ChucEO]

i have the same problem with my s13, ive adjusted the coilovers 7 times now, down my measurements, locked it in place, yet, the one side the fender is lower than the other. this definitely makes me feel better, i thought maybe someone screwed with the spring pre-load on my D2's lol.

[95KA-Turbo]

Not sure I'll have to check them out.

Ok maybe I'm not sure what you mean. Heres a picture of the uppers off the car, if that helps. Sorry 1st set of coils I've ever had....

[IMG]http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/d4-1.jpg[/]

No, down where the two bolts go to the knuckle - the bottom mount of the coilover. The top hole is slotted on a lot of them and that will effect your camber if you don't tighten the bolt down in the right spot. Judging from your camber plates though its unlikely that is your complete problem (as its only a few mms of adjustment).

Do you have aftermarket tension rods? Do you have a power brace or some other tension rod bracket strengthening? A lot of times the tension rods or the tension rod bracket they bolt to on the front of the car is bent and that effects your whole front alignment.

[1Day]

Yeah they are slotted, that helped a little. I haven't adjusted camber yet, had to come in and thank you guys. I do have aftermarket tension rods and lower control arms. Nope on the power brace but thats one of the next things on the list. Thanks guys! Its nice to get some help from people that know what the hell I'm doing, I get sick of the "you can't do that and that won't work" that everyone here tells me lol.

[bentmode360]

^^^What coilovers are you using? Most will not clear 18x10+18 without spacers... Zoopreme is the only person I know of that managed to do it...

Oh and is this S13 or s14?

im using bc br coils

Minimum requirements:

10mm spacer
225/40/18s
Pulled front fenders
As much negative camber as possible
~7 caster and lots of hammering.
if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?

[pacotaco345]

im using bc br coils


if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?

If you get a bigger spacer the wheels won't fit inside your fenders... get some 225/35/17 and you MIGHT get away with it

[boost infested]

Just wanted to confirm this setup

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

thanks in advance...

[bentmode360]

If you get a bigger spacer the wheels won't fit inside your fenders... get some 225/35/17 and you MIGHT get away with it

ill probably just go with the hammering lol i already have 225/40/18 thanks for the input tho really appreciate it.

[frsh4]

Just wanted to confirm this setup

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

thanks in advance...

10.5 in front for a s13! You crazy! Forsure your gonna need tubs.

[simmode1]

im using bc br coils


if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?
Seriously, wait until Zoopreme gets in here. 17x10+18's with no spacers under stock fenders. Shit looks miracluous.

You still didn't say if this was s13 or S14 though...

[fliprayzin240sx]

Not sure I'll have to check them out.

Ok maybe I'm not sure what you mean. Heres a picture of the uppers off the car, if that helps. Sorry 1st set of coils I've ever had....

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/d4-1.jpg

Take a picture of the lower section of the spring, showing the collar and the lower strut area. If its full tap, you should have 2 collars locking the springs in place and you should have 1 more collar that locks the spring tube into the lower strut. Most of us usually leave the 2 collars in place and adjust ride height only with the lower collar. You loosen the lower collar and the whole upper should just spin into the lower strut.

The back should be almost the same. The only difference is that the fronts are open bottom so you can bottom them out all the way till the lower collar touches the upper collar. The back ones, the bottom isnt hallowed thru. This is where most coilover companies are different. Some are designed to go low in the rear without touching the upper springs. Some, even maxed out in the bottom, are still not low enough.

[1Day]

Yeah my rears can't go any lower bc of the mount on the bottom. I have it set at it's lowest setting. There seems to be like a 1/4-1/2" more room, the shock just won't go any lower in the mount. I recall someone asking about drilling or tapping the lower mount to get the extra 1/4-1/2" but no one seemed 100 percent so I'll just deal with the rears for now.
The fronts were slotted, thanks!

[zooopreme]

On a serious note, why is everyone trying to push the boundaries with stock body? There's a reason why people run certain specs, BECAUSE THEY WORK WELL WITH STOCK BODIES.

If you want ridiculous sizes for the S13 you're going to spend ridiculous amounts of money on parts like suspension parts, overs, flares, etc.

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

10.5 up front will require tubs. Unless you want serious rubbing on stock inner fenders.

10.5, in general, will require much more than your average roll/pull.

17x10+18's with no spacers under stock fenders

there was a 10mm spacer requirement.

[boost infested]

On a serious note, why is everyone trying to push the boundaries with stock body? There's a reason why people run certain specs, BECAUSE THEY WORK WELL WITH STOCK BODIES.

If you want ridiculous sizes for the S13 you're going to spend ridiculous amounts of money on parts like suspension parts, overs, flares, etc.

10.5 up front will require tubs. Unless you want serious rubbing on stock inner fenders.

10.5, in general, will require much more than your average roll/pull.


20mm wide fenders should fix that issue?

:lfault:

[95KA-Turbo]

Just wanted to confirm this setup

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

thanks in advance...

I'd recommend:

18X9.5 +15 with 215/35s up front
18X10 +15 rear with 225/40

If you want to do a stock body set up that will look aggressive and not make your car look retarded.

S13s shouldn't be running anything wider then a 9.5 up front without tubs and/or widebody. You can make it fit but it is a massive pain in the ass and just doesn't look as good (of course this is all just my opinion).

Every once an a while a car pulls it off tastefully but usually it just looks like they're trying too hard.



edit since I see you talking about wide body fronts....thats a whole different ball game. You can get away with a 10 or even a 10.5, but without wide body out back it can look a little lopsided. I personally love S13s with wide fronts and slightly pulled rears, but usually its to run a 10J all around or 9s with a lower offset - or a thicker tire for front grip.

[zooopreme]

20mm wide fenders should fix that issue?



Over fenders fix the outer clearance. The problem with 10.5 wheels is the fact that when you turn, the width of the wheel is so fat that the wheel will rub in the inner fender area. It will limit your turning radius which is why frsh, knoop, & I said you need tubs.

[95KA-Turbo]

And even with tubs you can get some inner rubbing at full lock (especially with modded knuckles). For street driving this isn't as much of an issue because you can drive around super slow through different road environments, but if you intend to do a track day just go with a narrower wheel and a slightly wider, grippier tire.

[boost infested]

Over fenders fix the outer clearance. The problem with 10.5 wheels is the fact that when you turn, the width of the wheel is so fat that the wheel will rub in the inner fender area. It will limit your turning radius which is why frsh, knoop, & I said you need tubs.

gotcha, taking notes... thanks guys.

[bentmode360]

Seriously, wait until Zoopreme gets in here. 17x10+18's with no spacers under stock fenders. Shit looks miracluous.

You still didn't say if this was s13 or S14 though...

its s13 lol its in the og post.

[fliprayzin240sx]

im using bc br coils


if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?


I was running 18x10 +18 up front on my Topline Aragosta with no spacers. It cleared fine and I still had 1-2mm to clear the springs/collars.

But if BC is anything similar to MRs (which I think they're the same exact thing just rebadged), I was running 17x10 +12 FN01s and I had to run 8mm to clear those. MRs struts are fatties.

Just for reference, 17x10 +12 with 8mm spacers (effectively +4) up front with 235/40-17 on Megan Racing Coilovers
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Kouki%20S14/P1030003.jpg

and 18x10 +18 w/ 225/40-18 on Topline Aragostas.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3035.jpg?t=12552467443035.jpg?t=1255246744://

[Lukasss]

If i need to ask in the random question thread i will, but this is pretty much a fitment question
Does anyone know the specs of the wheels on this vehicle?


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4898553882_5a6ce06b51_z.jpg

[daftphunk]

I'm sure I already know the answer to this question..
But over most of the bumps in the road, my rears are rubbing. Happens all the time.
Is the only way to remedy this solution to pull/roll the rears out some more? And smaller tire?

I am gonna swap out my 235/40 for a 225/40 in the rear and was thinking that it would help, but I haven't gotten around to doing it yet.

[frsh4]

More camber, more pull, or smaller tire. Easiest and and less costly way is rolling/pull unless you dont have a heat gun which should be that expensive anyways.

[frsh4]

If i need to ask in the random question thread i will, but this is pretty much a fitment question
Does anyone know the specs of the wheels on this vehicle?


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4898553882_5a6ce06b51_z.jpg

18x10 -5 and 18x9 +1

[95KA-Turbo]

I'm sure I already know the answer to this question..
But over most of the bumps in the road, my rears are rubbing. Happens all the time.
Is the only way to remedy this solution to pull/roll the rears out some more? And smaller tire?

I am gonna swap out my 235/40 for a 225/40 in the rear and was thinking that it would help, but I haven't gotten around to doing it yet.

You can try hammering the inner fender metal with a hammer and spray paint over it so if it rubs more you can do a pull or add more camber.

[simmode1]

there was a 10mm spacer requirement.
Bwaaaa?! I am heart broken! I guess maybe you forgot to mention that on your Rimtuck listing...

Well, I'll glad you told me now, before I actually tried to do it and came back here posting, trying to figure out why its not working! lol

But if that 10mm spacer was needed to clear the coilovers and not to keep the tire from rubbing on the inner fender, then my plan of 17x10+20 with Megan extended brackets may still work.

But you brought up a great point about pushing the boundaries of the stock body. If being able to post 17x10+20 with 235/40's up front under stock fenders and no spacers is that damn important to me, I just may be fucking up at life... Forum accolades and hard parking for pics make ppl think up silly shit sometimes... No offense to anybody.

[Lukasss]

18x10 -5 and 18x9 +1

Thank you sir

[hellion240sx]

okay got some numbers so help me out guys. I think I sort of got it not too sure yet.

1. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread-69.html#post4247532
2. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread-69.html#post4248528

anyone else wants to take a shot?

when I measured with the 3" I added it to the side wall height. Is that right? Or am I supposed to add it to the side of the actual sidewall?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Wait, what the hell are you trying to do? You're linking a whole page so I'm not comprehending what you're even trying to fit in.

Post up wheels size with offset, tire sizes you're planning on running and what chassis.

[frsh4]

okay got some numbers so help me out guys. I think I sort of got it not too sure yet.

1. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread-69.html#post4247532
2. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread-69.html#post4248528

anyone else wants to take a shot?

when I measured with the 3" I added it to the side wall height. Is that right? Or am I supposed to add it to the side of the actual sidewall?

Not to be an a-hole here but seriously your just over calculating this. Its just 15s and you have an s14 which can fit so much under stock body. I didnt read post of your post and just skimmed it so sorry if im completely wrong. I agree explain plain and simple what you wanna do.

[Irresistible]

Thinking about pulling my S14 quarter panels by an inch or so to help get rid of the -4* of camber I have with my 17x10j+18 wheels. Would I be able to tuck after I pull the quarters, without having to run useless camber again?

[kouki-gymkhana]

Trying to run 18x9.5+14 up front on an s13 with oem Silvia fenders. I am aware that I will have to break out the BFH and go to work on the wheel wells but I am trying to run as much tire up front as possible (235/40 direzza star specs). The car will not be super low as it still has to be functional and I'm willing to run as much as 4 degrees of camber up front if I can get it with slotted lower mounts and maxed camber plates. Coil overs are a custom ground control/Koni setup. What would be the optimal tire size and how beefy are the star specs? Would 225/40 be a better option? Rears are 18x10+20 and I'm planning on 235/40 or 255/35 Star specs. Fenders and susp arms are stock for now but I plan on a roll and mild pull. Thoughts on which size would be best?

[zooopreme]

Thinking about pulling my S14 quarter panels by an inch or so to help get rid of the -4* of camber I have with my 17x10j+18 wheels. Would I be able to tuck after I pull the quarters, without having to run useless camber again?

There's no real measurement for cause and effect with pull & camber so you would really just have to eyeball it. Theoretically though, yes, pulls relieve some of that negative camber business.

[hellion240sx]

flip/frsh the two links were to the two posts of detailed specs. here we go:

This is what i got from willitfit.com:
old/new
Diameter 615mm 606mm
Circumference 1932.1mm 1903.8mm
Poke 42.6mm 101.6mm
Inset 122.6mm 101.6mm
Speedo error 0% 1.49%
Reading at 30mph 30mph 30.45mph
Reading at 60mph 60mph 60.89mph
Ride height gain 0mm -4.5mm
Arch gap loss 0mm -4.5mm

rimnsntires.com
old/new
Wheel size 15x6.5 ET 40 / 15x8 ET 0
BackSpace 135 mm (5.3'') / 114 mm (4.5'') 21 mm (0.8'') shorter.
Rim Lip / 59 mm (2.3'') wider
Typical Weight ~ 15 lbs / 7 kg ~ 18 lbs / 8 kg
Tires: Tire 1 / Tire 2
Tire size 195/60-15 / 225/50-15
Section width 195 mm (7.7'') / 225 mm (8.9'')
Sidewall 117 mm (4.6'') / 113 mm (4.4'')
Tire diameter 615 mm (24.2'') / 607 mm (23.9'')
8 mm (1.3%) shorter.
Rim sizes 15x5 to 15x7 / 15x6.5 to 15x8.5
Circumference 1931 mm (76'') / 1906 mm (75'')
Revs per mile 833.4 / 844.4
Speedometer Assuming that this is OEM tire and speedometer readings are correct >>> When speedometer reads 60mph (96.6km/h) actual speed will be 59.2mph (95.3km/h): 1.3% slower.

So how would I go about seeing if I will hit lock to lock and not rub? height wise it looks like a go from both sites just not sure about hitting c/o's, inner fender, etc. can someone help me out please. thanks!

acutually it gives to reading from the speedo. well from the two diff sites....
I have a stock s14 with these:
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/129/l_f1a07f7ca9e642ce94ca14b07668c17f.jpg
specs 15x6.5 +40 stock tires are 195/60/15 4 LUG.
like so but with usdm front:
http://driftjapan.com/buy-cars/wp-content/1997-nissan-240sx-silver-small-blog.jpg
Well I measured just now and it looks like it will fit... Thats what she said... but I measured on the front most area of the tire and the back most area of the tire as well. I measured again with the wheels turned to full lock I added 3" to the side wall height. Is that right? I'm trying to get this guys, really I am.

aslo added the 1010tires.com calculation in here as well.
Current Wheel Specs Width: 6.5 inches, Offset: 40mm
New Wheel Specs Width: 8 inches, Offset: 0mm
Inner Clearance: 21mm MORE (the inside of the wheel to the strut housing)
Outer Position: EXTEND an extra 59mm (position of the outside edge of the wheel)

[zooopreme]

^not entirely sure what you're asking...those wheels will not hit the coilover...if that's what you're asking.

[frsh4]

So your trying to fit a 15x8 +0 on your S14? What tire size you gonna run? Or is that your question?
Seems like your comparing your previous wheels to the new 15x8 +0 to see if your gonna rub the wheel wells?

[hellion240sx]

correct 225/50/15x8 +0 I just don't want to have to pull or roll the fenders. it's stock height >>at the moment<<
From the pic that zoom posted:
http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1234588348.jpg
That 17x8 +30
did the math with +0 and doesn't look like the above pic in any way... so that's why I am trying to figure out with 15s if it will work (since it's 2" smaller)

[frsh4]

correct 225/50/15x8 +0 I just don't want to have to pull or roll the fenders. it's stock height >>at the moment<<
From the pic that zoom posted:
That 17x8 +30
did the math with +0 and doesn't look like the above pic in any way... so that's why I am trying to figure out with 15s if it will work (since it's 2" smaller)

What are you so worried about then?

[hellion240sx]

well I want to make sure I'll be fine now, and later when I go lower. trying to do the research now, and not learn along the way. make sense?

*** only mod I have done are the inner and outer tie rods*** I do have all the other suspension pieces and have a few more to order.

remember AT THE MOMENT :)


i want to do it all at once instead of piece bby piece. I figure thats the best way to do it

[fliprayzin240sx]

well I want to make sure I'll be fine now, and later when I go lower. trying to do the research now, and not learn along the way. make sense?

*** only mod I have done are the inner and outer tie rods*** I do have all the other suspension pieces and have a few more to order.

remember AT THE MOMENT :)


i want to do it all at once instead of piece bby piece. I figure thats the best way to do it

You're over analyzing this shit too much. 2 things you gotta look out for. Make sure whatever rims/wheel setup you go for, always shoot for the same overall diameter as the stock OEM wheels (205/55-16s for S14). That way there wont be too much surprises. 2nd thing, look around what people are running. Go look up wheel offset calculators and compare what you want to run to what others have run and find out the difference. 8j +0 is pretty fucking cake on S14s.

PS: if you want shit to fit/flush/line up with the fenders, you're gonna have to roll the fenders atleast. Tires will probably touch the fenders once you lower it so theres not much butts or ifs about it.

[hellion240sx]

You're over analyzing this shit too much. 2 things you gotta look out for. Make sure whatever rims/wheel setup you go for, always shoot for the same overall diameter as the stock OEM wheels (205/55-16s for S14). That way there wont be too much surprises. 2nd thing, look around what people are running. Go look up wheel offset calculators and compare what you want to run to what others have run and find out the difference. 8j +0 is pretty fucking cake on S14s.

PS: if you want shit to fit/flush/line up with the fenders, you're gonna have to roll the fenders atleast. Tires will probably touch the fenders once you lower it so theres not much butts or ifs about it.

yeah I figured that I am over thinking it.
That's why I am asking you experts for help I just want to do this right the first time.
not trying to go 16"s-24"s.
not looking to slam/mod slam either.
Don't want to roll or pull fenders.
and i know I can fit lots of sizes under the stock fenders, but we are talking about 0 offset
my stock oem wheels were 195/60/15.6.5 +40
I mean I got that height wise they will fit if you look on the willitfit looks like its hitting on the actual suspension components. I see on rims and tires, again, It's shorter. But I don't know how to use the other numbers to figure out how it's going to fit once its on the car. Been going here for years Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 4 of 4 (http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html) put in the numbers there as well. doesn't show the tire width wise.

[zooopreme]

In my defense, I was going by what I found-- the owner of that S14 posted those specs so I went with it. Now that I think about it, the wheels may have had some spacers. But the original offset must have been +30.

0 offset will provide you with a lot of poke. Stock height, lowered height, slammed height, it doesn't matter, the car will have major poke because of that 0 offset.

Fitment issues come about with calipers, outer fender clearance, and inner fender clearance. The spoke design, disc design, the ride height, the wheel size, the tire size ALL are components to what fitment is all about.

Obviously 15X8 +0 isn't going to need a pull/roll at stock height because well, the car doesn't have to worry about contact with the wheel at all. If you plan on lowering the car an inch or two & there is wheel gap, you'll STILL be fine. No roll/pull will be needed.

[RB_240_420]

I have an S13 on some Tien HE coilovers. I'm looking into getting some wheels and I was looking at something around the area of 17x10 with about a +0 to +15 offset. My goal for the tire set up is grip, I would like to get some sticky tires that will put all my ponies to the ground. I'm thinking the 17x10s will go on all four corners.

What kind of good tire sizes am I looking at for a grip set-up here? And am I looking at any fitment issues with these up front? (It would be preferred if I could fit 300z brakes behind them in the long run)

[zooopreme]

Caliper clearance is dependent on spoke/disc design so you would have to see if the wheels that you plan on purchasing will be able to fit them in there.

As for your tire questions: http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread.html --that's where you want to be searching.

0 offset & +15 will not clear coilovers so you would need to have spacers. And with that aggressive size, you will need tubs for the fronts, a roll, and a pull (or overfenders)

[95KA-Turbo]

I have an S13 on some Tien HE coilovers. I'm looking into getting some wheels and I was looking at something around the area of 17x10 with about a +0 to +15 offset. My goal for the tire set up is grip, I would like to get some sticky tires that will put all my ponies to the ground. I'm thinking the 17x10s will go on all four corners.

What kind of good tire sizes am I looking at for a grip set-up here? And am I looking at any fitment issues with these up front? (It would be preferred if I could fit 300z brakes behind them in the long run)

If you want a good grip set up for a S13 get some 17X9 +22s and run 245/40 Nitto NT05s all around. You'll probably have to do a slight pull all around for that.

[hellion240sx]

In my defense, I was going by what I found-- the owner of that S14 posted those specs so I went with it. Now that I think about it, the wheels may have had some spacers. But the original offset must have been +30.

0 offset will provide you with a lot of poke. Stock height, lowered height, slammed height, it doesn't matter, the car will have major poke because of that 0 offset.

Fitment issues come about with calipers, outer fender clearance, and inner fender clearance. The spoke design, disc design, the ride height, the wheel size, the tire size ALL are components to what fitment is all about.

Obviously 15X8 +0 isn't going to need a pull/roll at stock height because well, the car doesn't have to worry about contact with the wheel at all. If you plan on lowering the car an inch or two & there is wheel gap, you'll STILL be fine. No roll/pull will be needed.

thank you zooopreme. Looks like thats the answer I was looking for. I have stock calipers, pads, rotors, lines, fluid. bought are the ss lines, hawk pads, d/s rotors, dot 4 fluid just not installed, YET! as far as brake set up goes.
Lowered an inch or two is all I'll probably do anyway.

[RB_240_420]

If you want a good grip set up for a S13 get some 17X9 +22s and run 245/40 Nitto NT05s all around. You'll probably have to do a slight pull all around for that.

I just want to make sure I can clear the coilovers and not lose any of my steering capability.

Also, do I need to use a space with this wheel?

[zooopreme]

^For the set up that Knoop provided, you don't need spacers.

[95KA-Turbo]

You will need to beat out your front fender wells to not rub at full lock, but that isn't a big deal. You'll also need to relocate your fender harnesses, there are lots of write ups for that online. Both of those modifications are standard for lowering a S-chassis with wide wheels and tires.

[Vicious Beaner!]

hey whats up guys
i am finally trying to get out the 15's guys and upgrade with some biggers wheels. This is my first time putting bigger wheels and trying to get the "FITMENT" atleast somewhat right . nothing fancy. I have my eyes on some wheels and my question is! how would 18x9.5 offset-4 all around come about on a stock bodied s13 with stock silvia fenders up front. I have fully adjustable suspension . rucas , toe etc etc. trying to be low. but not stupid dumped.
any output would help guys
thanks

[frsh4]

Stretch tire + camber + rolled/ big pull fender
215/40 would work maybe like 3* or a tad more depending on how much you pull the fender.

[PIN GIO 2]

Hey guys I got a questions

I have MB Battle 18x9.5 +23 225/40 in front and 18x9.5 +15 235/40 in rear... suspension spec JIC FLT-A1US Coilovers, battle version full rear suspenion and front Adjustable Tension Control Rods

here my problem is that front wheel hit on coilovers so small and rubber hit on wheels house.

i don't know what is my camber/caster/camber plate/toe number specs but this wednesday i will do alignment but i need help with the alignment specs. Give me some advice guys and i want to set up easily in a turn with no fight. thanks

[Wake]

Roll your fenders flat and get a small spacer to clear coils.

Done.



*thats the best answer I can give based on your lack of using the english language

[PIN GIO 2]

Roll your fenders flat and get a small spacer to clear coils.

Done.



*thats the best answer I can give based on your lack of using the english language

What size should i get spacer?

sorry deaf lack english :gives:

[Wake]

That explains it.
Depends on how much you are rubbing, but it sounds like you dont need much more than a 3-5mm spacer. Figure out how much space you have before you hit your fender and add a spacer slightly smaller than that.

[draheim240]

18x10 all around +25 offset. xxr 521's.

will they fit/ clear brembo's up front with a 25mm spacer? and will i be able to utilize a good size turning radius still?

i have fortune auto coilovers.

thanks.