cut springs covered, but got new question

[drift240_2009]

I researched this and got answers but it was only for mustangs and hondas.

I found that if you only cut an inch to 1 and 1/4 inch off stock springs it doesnt change ride quality at all. I could be wrong but i know someone who has a primered s13 hatchback with cut springs on it for about 2 yrs now and he INFACT drifts his car. Now i have been lead to believe that he is full of it sometimes but i have infact driven his car to and from atlanta through potholes etc and it felt like stock to me and apparently him since he has had the car like that for 2 years never had issues.

If those who cant afford to lower their cars the right way. Why Cant they cut the stock springs this way??? If it isnt cut more than an inch or 1 and 1/4 whats wrong with that?

[ZenkiKid]

Wat?

Cutting springs is dangerous man. My experience was the opposite of yours so I think that guy may be full of it. I rode in a car with cut springs and once it would hit an uneven surface i swear the car would feel like it was jumping.

[keeeban]

As you said, it doesn't make a difference in ride quality. And I'm assuming you want your car to look "lower," but dropping the car an inch all around wont make any difference appearance wise either way, so there's no point.

Just be patient and save up for coils.

[BoostSlideWayz]

yeah cutting your springs makes EVERYTHING worse... first off... your car will feel like an old caddy on bumps.. i know someone in a civic that cut their springs and i was passing them on the road once and saw them hit a bump and i sware i saw his car lift like 8 inches then drop back down.. craziest thing ive ever seen, on my s13 when i bought it the guy said he cut the coils on the front and back but i personally dont feel it bounced at all and my roads are bumpy.

[future]

Blah blah, I rode cut springs. Long story short, don't cut stocks. Only after market. Do one coil in the front and two in the rear. Make sure you had good strusts. Still rode better then my coils, of course not stiff, but a lot smoother

[bigs]

A science to cut springs...now I can sleep at night.

[S14kouki_10]

chip foose did it on the overhauling show.

[Carbomb]

drift king cut springs...
so did i

fuck it run it find out why it sucks / good
and fuck the internet

[Matej]

When my shocks blew, I took out the springs to see how low the car would sit without springs, and it was not even very low.

[Steinkrunk]

^^I always wanted to do that. But yea, cut springs work alright for a couple months but when your struts blow out then you'll get that bouncy and bumpy ride everyone associates cut springs with.

I match the end of the pigtail, in the front go to the coil under where ever the pigtail ends and cut it in exactly the same spot. The rear go 2 coils. Then pop em back in and you'll be good to go. Rides stiff and lowers as much as any aftermarket springs do. Then eventually your struts will blow and you will curse the day you decided to cheap out and cut your springs.

[joel.e.krueger]

Remove springs. Run on bump stops. All problems solved.

[PoorMans180SX]

What's the definition of a Ricer again?

[drift240_2009]

all good points, but i am not i cant even save enough to even buy anything passed lowering springs since my insurance not only sucks, its because its my daily and i dont want it too low. I want a 1 inch and a half drop all around. My front is already that low from first owner im third.\

And im gunna admit this no matter how much bashing i get, there were 3 owners to the car, the first one cut the front springs so much that theres only 3 twists in the coil so the front sits about 5 inches off the ground now from the lip. The rear still has that 4x4 stance and i hate it.The second owner threw in megan tension rods in after he bought it.

The car was driven for 3 years like that and i can tell you right now it aint close to being shitty nor bouncy. Like i said the second owner may be full of shit when he said it was an aftermarket spring, but i knew it was cut in the first place.\

The only thing is is that the shocks in the front and rear are stiffer than what normal shocks are suppose to be. I cant find what brand they are i just know they are stiffer than oem since i can push down on the hood and it has no compression. But when i go over speed bumps big or small it rebounds like stock.

Now i really just want to lower the back with lowering springs but noone sells just 2. If i got 2 locally or from an online store, i would be alot safer.

LASTLY AND MOST IMPORTANT. I cant have the car too low ie the tires are almost literaly in the wheelwell. The reason is is that i dont want to scuff anything. I want it as low as i want it.

[raz0rbladez909]

all good points, but i am not i cant even save enough to even buy anything passed lowering springs since my insurance not only sucks, its because its my daily and i dont want it too low. I want a 1 inch and a half drop all around. My front is already that low from first owner im third.\


You're 23 years old and can't buy lowering springs at the very least? You might want to rethink your priorities if you can't afford 200 dollar springs. I'm not saying it to be an asshole....well actually yeah I am, because if you wrecked into me because of your bullshit homemade mods I certainly wouldn't be happy. Go get a better job or learn to save up.

[Edwin562]

man up and deal with stiff ride.. 240s arent meant to be 4x4 status... if you dont like being low and stiff... this aint your game...

[raz0rbladez909]

man up and deal with stiff ride.. 240s arent meant to be 4x4 status... if you dont like being low and stiff... this aint your game...

You couldn't have added anymore gayness to this thread lol since when is the 240 scene a "game".:picardfp: and not all suspension has to be overly low or stiff it's just that some of you have no idea that anything else is out there. There are plenty of spring and strut combo's that will be great for daily and outperform half of that taiwanese bullshit thats on most 240's

[Edwin562]

You couldn't have added anymore gayness to this thread lol since when is the 240 scene a "game".:picardfp: and not all suspension has to be overly low or stiff it's just that some of you have no idea that anything else is out there. There are plenty of spring and strut combo's that will be great for daily and outperform half of that taiwanese bullshit thats on most 240's

"game" is the way i describe the new trend in the 240 scene... if aint low, you aint shit lol.. chill out dude dont try to be the big boy on the internet... i complete agree with you on "There are plenty of spring and strut combo's that will be great for daily and outperform half of that taiwanese bullshit thats on most 240's" . just like i said, its my way to describe the scene...

[cdlong]

Cutting your springs won't change the ride quality, the spring rate is still the same. There are issues with that though. First, lowering springs are stiffer, necessary to keep you from hitting the bump stops all the time. If you don't have enough travel and spring to keep you from hitting the bump stops, your car will handle like crap and be dangerous (which I guess could factor in to ride quality). Second, lowering the car actually increases body roll. Again, lowering springs are stiffer to aleviate that. If you go lower on the same springs, the handling will be worse. A ricer that's too cheap to get real lowering springs is probably too cheap to get an alignment afterward so that's not helping things. Also, you'll blow shocks more easily, but it sounds like you might be ok there.

Overall, you're probably fine if you cut the rear and get an alignment. probably not any worse than what must be a rediculous rake you've got going right now.

I want it as low as i want it.

Really?

[bigs]

Let idiots be idiots. /thread

[drift240_2009]

Call me ricer and that im ruining the 240, but i like how the ride quality was on my friends car after driving it for an hr in atlanta. Dont get me wrong, a car is at best to what the owner feels and likes not to what others think. Its their car, if they want to add a turbo whistler to sound like they have a turbo or whatever let them.

I swear to fucking christ that the front are stiff as fuck for cut springs. I dont know where the original owner got the shit done but it feels like its done right.

Second the invoice i got from them that states all whats replaced says INFACT they are aftermarket but no aftermarket spring looks like this:

http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/images/1/07/16/09.jpg

Not my real suspension but that coil is 100% accurate to what my front ones look and that fucker is stiff as hell.

[drift240_2009]

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) I HAVE a good paying job but its not really helping. I DO infact want lowering springs but i dont really know which ones i want because im thinking of getting coilovers instead.

Im actually 25 and AM a graphic designer. I get paid well enough for 2 rb25s if i wanted too, but I HAVE more priorities than to get better suspension.

I DONT DRIVE FAR FOR MORE THAN 30 MINS unless its to atlanta for drifting then yea i see all your points that im risking it

But think about it, 3 years and no issues except that the front looses a bit of traction when i turn hard enough on purpose.

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) THE CUT SPRINGS WERE DONE PROFESSIONALLY BY A SUSPENSION SHOP i HAVE THE INVOICE

I AGREE WITH MOST OF YOU THAT THIS ISNT THE BEST WAY TO GET THE CAR LOWER ETC, but at the time i really dont give a damn

My goal is the actually replace EVERY SUSPENSION component at the end of this year. SO I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT "HOW BAD THE RIDE QUALITY IS ETC"

BTW raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html), my shit will stop faster than any aftermarket brakes ive owned, IN THE RAIN!!!!.


So go ahead and slam on your brakes, I bet you i can stop fast enough to not hit you.

Dont this 5 times and all were behind expensive cars evidently.

EVERY STRUT AND SHOCK IS BRAND NEW AS OF 2 MONTHS AGO WITH THE CUT SPRING IN THE FRONT ALL ARE MONROE SHOCKS AND STRUTS. Was told those can deal with any lowering spring or cut spring better than oem suspension.

Anyone local wanna drive the car? I bet that anyone local who drives it wont feel a difference.

[nismolvr]

You're 23 years old and can't buy lowering springs at the very least? You might want to rethink your priorities if you can't afford 200 dollar springs. I'm not saying it to be an asshole....well actually yeah I am, because if you wrecked into me because of your bullshit homemade mods I certainly wouldn't be happy. Go get a better job or learn to save up.
Completely agree with you.If its "Ghettomized " it aint safe. I personally know this kid ive done a couple engine Swaps. He has a ebay coil over sleeves and using rear springs up front!!!His struts and shocks are blown WTF!. Hes all into the "hellaflush" look. Time and time again , Ive told him his car looks good parked , thats it. I told him his car isnt safe and warned him about him speeding through turns and hitting a bumpy road , told him he was going to loose control .He didnt seem interested . I told the kid he was a poser. Because he rather sacrifice the publics safety over his obsession to "Ghetomize" lower his car.I drove his car once and it scared the shit out of me. Front end was bouncing and the rear was so loose , metal banging sounds , tires rubbing on fenders and no comfort what so ever , trully and grossly did not have any form of function.
Well the Kid was" living la vida Fast and furious" about a week ago street racing another idiot in a "hella fast Honda". Long story , kid in the 240 bumped the passenger side Honda doing about 85MPH . They both cars went off the country road . They took out barbed wire fence Nissan rolled over about 5 times ,ejected driver . Kid is in hospital with broken shoulder and arm. Fucking lucky SOB. The Honda kid survived , thrashed his car.All because he rather be a poser and save Roughly around $500 worth of parts .Hes going to jail and lucky he didnt kill himself or others. It never ceases to amaze me , how a kid can shell out 3 grand for a set of Volks , and never once even consider modifying suspension first, properly the right way. If it aint done Right it aint shit and doesnt deserve to be on public streets.But I guess looking good and posing is more important to these idiots.

[drift240_2009]

well razor is wrong its not homemade it was done by a performance suspension shop.

Ok, I want to cut them for the purpose of how low i want to set my adjustable coilovers or whatever suspension i want.

I am well aware that i can flip the car or loose control but after 4 tickets in the s14 i use to have that was fully stock "I WAS LIVING LA VIDA FAST AND FURIOUS" since i loved 240s so much.

The problem was that car HAD lowering springs on kybs and you know what i went off road and hit a tree. I had brand new tires on that car and it failed to stop no matter how much i tried to control it. It wasnt good enough.

I have jumped curbs with that setup so many times that i hated lowering springs and kybs for that reason.

So for 3 years of driving cut and drifting at high speeds i had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fuckin more control.

[Seriously]

Im not going to lie I've rode cut springs in my old hatch like 3 years ago, it is the definition of (the suck) especially if most of you're driving is in the freeway... I'd rather roll stock height than cut springs again, WERD tho save some money and buy some coilovers or something

[drift240_2009]

If it drives good and handles good than its good enough for me.

Fuck those who think cut springs are bad. If its done right it performs right and if it feels oem to me than it is cut right.

I never ever ever fuckin ever said i was never gunna save for coilovers. That is my plan but im doing little bit at a time on the suspension.


I rarely rarely drive on the highway. Everything i need and want to go to is nearly 30 mins away.
The most ive driven on the highway was 3 hrs and i had no fucking issues.

Besides im only gunna drive it until the end of the year thats when ill have my coilovers and turbo kit. Im just gunna ride them cut until then.

Having them like that to me just makes you more aware of what your doing more.

[Seriously]

Completely agree with you.If its "Ghettomized " it aint safe. I personally know this kid ive done a couple engine Swaps. He has a ebay coil over sleeves and using rear springs up front!!!His struts and shocks are blown WTF!. Hes all into the "hellaflush" look. Time and time again , Ive told him his car looks good parked , thats it. I told him his car isnt safe and warned him about him speeding through turns and hitting a bumpy road , told him he was going to loose control .He didnt seem interested . I told the kid he was a poser. Because he rather sacrifice the publics safety over his obsession to "Ghetomize" lower his car.I drove his car once and it scared the shit out of me. Front end was bouncing and the rear was so loose , metal banging sounds , tires rubbing on fenders and no comfort what so ever , trully and grossly did not have any form of function.
Well the Kid was" living la vida Fast and furious" about a week ago street racing another idiot in a "hella fast Honda". Long story , kid in the 240 bumped the passenger side Honda doing about 85MPH . They both cars went off the country road . They took out barbed wire fence Nissan rolled over about 5 times ,ejected driver . Kid is in hospital with broken shoulder and arm. Fucking lucky SOB. The Honda kid survived , thrashed his car.All because he rather be a poser and save Roughly around $500 worth of parts .Hes going to jail and lucky he didnt kill himself or others. It never ceases to amaze me , how a kid can shell out 3 grand for a set of Volks , and never once even consider modifying suspension first, properly the right way. If it aint done Right it aint shit and doesnt deserve to be on public streets.But I guess looking good and posing is more important to these idiots.

These kids are making the 240 the new civic :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: makes me want to get rid of mine and go old school

[Seriously]

If it drives good and handles good than its good enough for me.

Fuck those who think cut springs are bad. If its done right it performs right and if it feels oem to me than it is cut right.

I don't think it can be done wrong, unless you don't know how to count or measure, and no it will not preform right especially if its daily driven

[Edwin562]

Fuck those who think cut springs are bad. If its done right it performs right and if it feels oem to me than it is cut right.

I LOL at your response... :tardrim:

[n8RPS13]

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) I HAVE a good paying job but its not really helping. I DO infact want lowering springs but i dont really know which ones i want because im thinking of getting coilovers instead.

Im actually 25 and AM a graphic designer. I get paid well enough for 2 rb25s if i wanted too, but I HAVE more priorities than to get better suspension.

I DONT DRIVE FAR FOR MORE THAN 30 MINS unless its to atlanta for drifting then yea i see all your points that im risking it

But think about it, 3 years and no issues except that the front looses a bit of traction when i turn hard enough on purpose.

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) THE CUT SPRINGS WERE DONE PROFESSIONALLY BY A SUSPENSION SHOP i HAVE THE INVOICE

I AGREE WITH MOST OF YOU THAT THIS ISNT THE BEST WAY TO GET THE CAR LOWER ETC, but at the time i really dont give a damn

My goal is the actually replace EVERY SUSPENSION component at the end of this year. SO I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT "HOW BAD THE RIDE QUALITY IS ETC"

BTW raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html), my shit will stop faster than any aftermarket brakes ive owned, IN THE RAIN!!!!.


So go ahead and slam on your brakes, I bet you i can stop fast enough to not hit you.

Dont this 5 times and all were behind expensive cars evidently.

EVERY STRUT AND SHOCK IS BRAND NEW AS OF 2 MONTHS AGO WITH THE CUT SPRING IN THE FRONT ALL ARE MONROE SHOCKS AND STRUTS. Was told those can deal with any lowering spring or cut spring better than oem suspension.

Anyone local wanna drive the car? I bet that anyone local who drives it wont feel a difference.

WTF are you talking about?! You go from I cant afford lowering springs to I make enough for two RB's and Im planning to switch out the entire suspension this summer and then to "My shit can stop faster than any aftermarket brakes" and then "Im not worried about the cars handling" when you stated earlier that you want it to ride just like your friends. Then you offer to let anyone come drive your car...?

[n8RPS13]

well razor is wrong its not homemade it was done by a performance suspension shop.

Ok, I want to cut them for the purpose of how low i want to set my adjustable coilovers or whatever suspension i want.

I am well aware that i can flip the car or loose control but after 4 tickets in the s14 i use to have that was fully stock "I WAS LIVING LA VIDA FAST AND FURIOUS" since i loved 240s so much.

The problem was that car HAD lowering springs on kybs and you know what i went off road and hit a tree. I had brand new tires on that car and it failed to stop no matter how much i tried to control it. It wasnt good enough.

I have jumped curbs with that setup so many times that i hated lowering springs and kybs for that reason.

So for 3 years of driving cut and drifting at high speeds i had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fuckin more control.

The "problem" was the car had a $hitty driver!

[raz0rbladez909]

well razor is wrong its not homemade it was done by a performance suspension shop.

Ok, I want to cut them for the purpose of how low i want to set my adjustable coilovers or whatever suspension i want.

I am well aware that i can flip the car or loose control but after 4 tickets in the s14 i use to have that was fully stock "I WAS LIVING LA VIDA FAST AND FURIOUS" since i loved 240s so much.

The problem was that car HAD lowering springs on kybs and you know what i went off road and hit a tree. I had brand new tires on that car and it failed to stop no matter how much i tried to control it. It wasnt good enough.

I have jumped curbs with that setup so many times that i hated lowering springs and kybs for that reason.

So for 3 years of driving cut and drifting at high speeds i had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fuckin more control.

Wow, so you're telling me a performance suspension shop cut your springs? Please list their business so I know who to never go to.

Wtf are you talking about you want to cut them for the purpose of how to set your coilovers or imaginary suspension you don't have? If you didn't know it's quite easy to install a set of coilovers and once you do install them it takes about 10 minutes to get them to whatever setting you want to all around. You won't be able to use your brokedick combo of cut springs and stock struts to even use as a reference so your point is null and void.

You must be an idiot if you are blaming kyb's and lowering springs for you jumping curbs or hitting trees, maybe you need to assess your driving then? If you believe your cut springs on stock struts is superior thats cool, your just blind to facts then. I'm glad you're in Georgia so I don't have to be on the same roads as your dumbass

[drift240_2009]

No not really, anything can happen no matter what setup you got.

SO your telling me that if i get a full set up the car will NEVER EVER spinout and loose control? Sounds farfetched to me, no suspesion in the world can keep your car from spinning out.

2. I lost control that day because i actually hit a dip in the road when i was turning and that caused me to loose control

and im done, you all are a waste of my breath and i laugh at every comment so hard my sides hurt.

If lowering springs and cut springs will be very similar whats the point of telling me that i cant afford lowring springs. Since everyone says both are basically the same then why not cut them instead.

ill put a sticker on the back of my car that says"Im a ricer" if that makes you all feel better.:faint:

You all make me want to troll this site so bad but i wont because your temtations are silly and amuzing and wont help.

and ya know being banned is a good thing, it lets you not hear stupid comments. And wahts the point of selling stuff on here if you are never gunna sell it. I see alot of for sale threads with everything still there for sale and the person just ignores all responces of "price for shipping, im local ill pick it up.Oh i sent a pm with my number call me when you want me to pick it up"

im gunna start buying everything new for now on until people can actual sell shit instead of piss off seller. :wtf:

[drift240_2009]

rofl :cj: much to your boyfriend razor. The fact that im telling you that kybs and lowering springs suck is because they do. Why do you think pple get rid of them to go to coilovers. The obvious reason is that they suck. 1 not all coilovers are adjustable.


Dont be racist against foreign pple. The shop is owned by persians and the original owner was person.

Dont get me wrong but if asians can make performance parts that ACTUALLY do what they are suppose to do, then persians can cut springs safely to not have issues.

If you have a racist comment im gunna say this now you sir are a racist bastard and if i ever see you anywhere i wont think twice about poping you one because I AM persian and its offensive to hear anything racist.

[dreamin240sx]

The "problem" was the car had a $hitty driver!



AGREED IN FULL :duh:

[drift240_2009]

if i get banned it will be like christmas in july. Atleast i wont be dealing with a site that cant sell anything

No im not a shitty driver i can drive like anyone else, but a shitty set up like i had before doesnt work with me.

We all make adjustments to our cars for our liking. If you just put shit on and call it and day and dont do anything then YOUR THE IDIOT.

[nismolvr]

well razor is wrong its not homemade it was done by a performance suspension shop.



The problem was that car HAD lowering springs on kybs and you know what i went off road and hit a tree. I had brand new tires on that car and it failed to stop no matter how much i tried to control it. It wasnt good enough.

I have jumped curbs with that setup so many times that i hated lowering springs and kybs for that reason.

So for 3 years of driving cut and drifting at high speeds i had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fuckin more control.Slaping on bolt ons ,does not means your car will do everything for you. There exists a big variable in performance driving . Its called driver error. Not judjing speed, late braking and under and over steer . All these conditions still apply even if you have the most expensive suspension money can buy.Dude learn the limits of your car by taking it to a track , where if you do get into a pickle , you wont hit a tree or curb.Push any car over the limits and it will bite you. Best driving is done by using your brain and the seat of your pants literally ,feel the car and anticipate what it will do . Do something quick and erratic ,transfer weight forward or rear , scanflick , you better know how to deal with how the car will respond back and correct it. learn about tires also. Tires are overlooked . Best runners in the world dont use kmart shoes. Same applies with tires and its what provides the immediate contact with tarmack aids in braking , grip , lateral Gs.

[raz0rbladez909]

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) I HAVE a good paying job but its not really helping. I DO infact want lowering springs but i dont really know which ones i want because im thinking of getting coilovers instead.

Im actually 25 and AM a graphic designer. I get paid well enough for 2 rb25s if i wanted too, but I HAVE more priorities than to get better suspension.
What happened to barely being able to afford lowering springs? did you win the lotto in the past 20 minutes?

I DONT DRIVE FAR FOR MORE THAN 30 MINS unless its to atlanta for drifting then yea i see all your points that im risking it
doesn't matter you're still driving a ghettofied pos on public roads for that amount of time

But think about it, 3 years and no issues except that the front looses a bit of traction when i turn hard enough on purpose.

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) THE CUT SPRINGS WERE DONE PROFESSIONALLY BY A SUSPENSION SHOP i HAVE THE INVOICE

I AGREE WITH MOST OF YOU THAT THIS ISNT THE BEST WAY TO GET THE CAR LOWER ETC, but at the time i really dont give a damn

My goal is the actually replace EVERY SUSPENSION component at the end of this year. SO I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT "HOW BAD THE RIDE QUALITY IS ETC"

BTW raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html), my shit will stop faster than any aftermarket brakes ive owned, IN THE RAIN!!!!.


So go ahead and slam on your brakes, I bet you i can stop fast enough to not hit you.

You really willing to make that bet? based on how ghetto you've started i'd venture to say your braking and tire choices are probably equivalent to your suspension

Dont this 5 times and all were behind expensive cars evidently.

EVERY STRUT AND SHOCK IS BRAND NEW AS OF 2 MONTHS AGO WITH THE CUT SPRING IN THE FRONT ALL ARE MONROE SHOCKS AND STRUTS. Was told those can deal with any lowering spring or cut spring better than oem suspension.

Anyone local wanna drive the car? I bet that anyone local who drives it wont feel a difference.

I dunno if I should even fully respond to half the dumb shit you posted my thoughts are in bold just in case you don't notice

[drift240_2009]

the problem good drivers even race car drivers loose control too.No ones got a car that never spinsout or looses control under and conditions. Thats impossible.

[5pecialist]

drift king cut springs...
So did i

fuck it run it find out why it sucks / good
and fuck the internet
THIS! Pardon me for getting all Tyler Durden, but we have an entire generation raised by the internet. They don't know why they do things, they just follow the forum herd. Do it, live it, find out why it sucks... then make it better. You will appreciate coilovers 100% more than someone with dad's credit card.

Push any car over the limits and it will bite you. Best driving is done by using your brain and the seat of your pants literally ,feel the car and anticipate what it will do . Do something quick and erratic ,transfer weight forward or rear , scanflick , you better know how to deal with how the car will respond back and correct it. learn about tires also. Tires are overlooked . Best runners in the world dont use kmart shoes. Same applies with tires and its what provides the immediate contact with tarmack aids in braking , grip , lateral Gs.
Amen. This is why even car racing video games start you out with a basic car. Learn how to push that to the limit before upgrading, so you will understand later what the upgrades are for. Cheap tires can turn even a Ferrari into a paper weight.

[dreamin240sx]

SERIOUSLY drift 240 2009 your a complete idiot your just showing your ass. stupidity hurts and im sure we all dont want to see another sad story of another guy tottalling his 240 and crying about it. you have been told time and time again that cut springs are a bad idea and you still try to defend yourself even though you asked for help. im 19 years old and i even know better than to run that shit. sorry man but i think its time for you to grow up and bite the bullet.

[drift240_2009]

[/URL]um[URL="http://zilvia.net/f/members/nismolvr.html"] nismolvr, (http://zilvia.net/f/members/nismolvr.html)iVE been to the track for 3 years on cut springs. I do alot better now than i did with my pos s14. THOSE CARS ARE POS period to me. I dont drive like an asswhole like razor does on the street.


I go to the track every day since ive owned this car. Did i ever say i had the s14 still,no. That was 6 years ago. I drive my daily on the track in many conditions.



Second HELLO you can still flip at a track. Im taking a drift and track class that is helping me.

[drift240_2009]

i am not defending the situation im saying you all are making a fuss about abit.

When i totalled my s14 i was glad i did. I hated that car since day 1. Now i got an s13 im happy.

And i dont care if your 19 and think your better than me. A car is a car to me i own 2 s13s and if i want to bust one up and not care, theres the second one right there in my driveway ready for the streets.Atleast that one HAS coilovers.

The car is about 100% street legal all i need to do is get emissions stuff for the motor and that one owner that has the egr shit wont sell me his shit.So im buying my shit new.:blah:

[towlie]

My brain just exploded

[drift240_2009]

And maybe I am an idiot but how can i be a graphic designer? I maybe an idiot when it comes to cars because maybe i am still reading books on how to work on cars so i can atleast have something else to learn instead of graphic design

[thefro526]

My brother and I used to have a 'missile' with cut springs. Bought a dual cam 240 with giant holes in the floor for $500 and figured it seemed like a good idea.

Car was sketchy as all hell at speeds over 50mph unless the pavement was perfectly smooth - at any other speed it rode like complete shit. It was awesome for retarded street stuff and for hitting grills left in parking lots after baseball games.

Anyway, cut springs are dumb. If you can't afford to lower a 240, you either need a better source of income or to stop playing cars.

[raz0rbladez909]

No not really, anything can happen no matter what setup you got.

SO your telling me that if i get a full set up the car will NEVER EVER spinout and loose control? Sounds farfetched to me, no suspesion in the world can keep your car from spinning out.
Chances are you spun out because you're driving like an idiot on public roads

2. I lost control that day because i actually hit a dip in the road when i was turning and that caused me to loose control
More than likely because you can't drive
and im done, you all are a waste of my breath and i laugh at every comment so hard my sides hurt.
Waste of breath would be saying that your cut springs are so awesome and that you are only doing it to compare when/if you get coilovers
If lowering springs and cut springs will be very similar whats the point of telling me that i cant afford lowring springs. Since everyone says both are basically the same then why not cut them instead.
Actually I believe it was you that said you "barely make enough for lowering springs"

ill put a sticker on the back of my car that says"Im a ricer" if that makes you all feel better.:faint:Anything to make it easier to spot your dumbass so people can stay away

You all make me want to troll this site so bad but i wont because your temtations are silly and amuzing and wont help.You already are trolling and if it's not I feel sorry for you and the parents who raised you

and ya know being banned is a good thing, it lets you not hear stupid comments. And wahts the point of selling stuff on here if you are never gunna sell it. I see alot of for sale threads with everything still there for sale and the person just ignores all responces of "price for shipping, im local ill pick it up.Oh i sent a pm with my number call me when you want me to pick it up" :blah::blah::blah:

im gunna start buying everything new for now on until people can actual sell shit instead of piss off seller. :wtf:
:blah::blah::blah::blah:

rofl :cj: much to your boyfriend razor. The fact that im telling you that kybs and lowering springs suck is because they do. Why do you think pple get rid of them to go to coilovers. The obvious reason is that they suck. 1 not all coilovers are adjustable.
People who buy coilovers usually want adjustability of height and dampening and aren't buying them purely for looks as it seems you want them for. And usually people mod cars to upgrade not downgrade from stock as you're doing here
Dont be racist against foreign pple. The shop is owned by persians and the original owner was person.
Who's being racist you moron? How the fuck could I have predicted anyones race from their automotive work?

Dont get me wrong but if asians can make performance parts that ACTUALLY do what they are suppose to do, then persians can cut springs safely to not have issues.
Looks like you're the racist one here you tool

If you have a racist comment im gunna say this now you sir are a racist bastard and if i ever see you anywhere i wont think twice about poping you one because I AM persian and its offensive to hear anything racist.

Yes, come over and "Pop" me you jackass because I totally said anything racist. :duh:

[G240]

Shrug:

Cheapest you'll get and 100x better than cutting your springs deal (http://www.amazon.com/Nissan-M2-Performance-Lowering-Springs/dp/B003WSHWUI)

[PoorMans180SX]

drift240, you are making yourself look retarded. Clearly you are ignorant about s-chassis cars otherwise you would know that S14s and S13s are nearly identical besides the shape.

Please go read a book and get off this forum with your ignorance/stupid decisions. Come back when you've learned something and gotten rid of the "I know everything" attitude.

[raz0rbladez909]

all good points, but i am not i cant even save enough to even buy anything passed lowering springs since my insurance not only sucks, its because its my daily and i dont want it too low.

Yes you said it yourself

[SRTFerg]

I. AM. SO. CONFUSED.


Holy crap OP, you have to be one of the most ignorant people I have ever had the displeasure to come across on the interwebs. You contradict yourself so much in this thread that it isnt even funny. If you have so much money why dont you just donate it, along with your car(s) to someone who actually knows what they are doing/talking about.

[Steinkrunk]

I totally said anything racist.

OMG!!! YOUR RACIST!!! YOU ADMITTED IT!!

OP your a dumbass plain and simple. You could have taken the first couple of responses and been on your merry way. But you stuck around and now are just proving with each and every post that you are a dumbass. Have fun ruining your car

[nismolvr]

the problem good drivers even race car drivers loose control too.No ones got a car that never spinsout or looses control under and conditions. Thats impossible.Race car drivers know the tracks thats their job they know where every dip and bump is.It absolutely makes no fucking sense driving like an idiot on city streets,where you dont know all the road conditions and where you could kill a family walking along their neighborhood streets.

[Edwin562]

wow, a forum throw-down... i put money on razorbladez909

[n8RPS13]

No not really, anything can happen no matter what setup you got.

SO your telling me that if i get a full set up the car will NEVER EVER spinout and loose control? Sounds farfetched to me, no suspesion in the world can keep your car from spinning out.

2. I lost control that day because i actually hit a dip in the road when i was turning and that caused me to loose control

and im done, you all are a waste of my breath and i laugh at every comment so hard my sides hurt.

If lowering springs and cut springs will be very similar whats the point of telling me that i cant afford lowring springs. Since everyone says both are basically the same then why not cut them instead.

ill put a sticker on the back of my car that says"Im a ricer" if that makes you all feel better.:faint:

You all make me want to troll this site so bad but i wont because your temtations are silly and amuzing and wont help.

and ya know being banned is a good thing, it lets you not hear stupid comments. And wahts the point of selling stuff on here if you are never gunna sell it. I see alot of for sale threads with everything still there for sale and the person just ignores all responces of "price for shipping, im local ill pick it up.Oh i sent a pm with my number call me when you want me to pick it up"

im gunna start buying everything new for now on until people can actual sell shit instead of piss off seller. :wtf:

So you are going to quit trolling this thread, but you continue to post on it. I think you posted 6 times after saying that....How the hell do you switch subjects from cut springs to racism to bitching about sellers?!?!?! You never stated that they were a performance suspension shop owned by Persains. Then you say the S14 is a shitty car and you were glad you totaled it!!! You dont know shit about these cars!!! Do yourself a favor delete your membership, sell your S13 and go back to school! You claim to be a so called educated "GRAPHIC DESIGNER", but your grammar, sentence structure, and general lack of knowledge is a joke! What company do you work for? I just want to know so I NEVER do any business with them.

[drift240_2009]

It did towlie? Are you retarded now:picardfp:

[hockeyrules]

sooo many lulz!

Why do you say your a graphic desginer but your bio says your a mechanic??

[SRTFerg]

And maybe I am an idiot but how can i be a graphic designer? I maybe an idiot when it comes to cars because maybe i am still reading books on how to work on cars so i can atleast have something else to learn instead of graphic design

i am not defending the situation im saying you all are making a fuss about abit.

When i totalled my s14 i was glad i did. I hated that car since day 1. Now i got an s13 im happy.

And i dont care if your 19 and think your better than me. A car is a car to me i own 2 s13s and if i want to bust one up and not care, theres the second one right there in my driveway ready for the streets.Atleast that one HAS coilovers.

The car is about 100% street legal all i need to do is get emissions stuff for the motor and that one owner that has the egr shit wont sell me his shit.So im buying my shit new.:blah:

[/URL]um nismolvr, (http://zilvia.net/f/members/nismolvr.html)iVE been to the track for 3 years on cut springs. I do alot better now than i did with my pos s14. THOSE CARS ARE POS period to me. I dont drive like an asswhole like razor does on the street.


I go to the track every day since ive owned this car. Did i ever say i had the s14 still,no. That was 6 years ago. I drive my daily on the track in many conditions.



Second HELLO you can still flip at a track. Im taking a drift and track class that is helping me.

the problem good drivers even race car drivers loose control too.No ones got a car that never spinsout or looses control under and conditions. Thats impossible.

if i get banned it will be like christmas in july. Atleast i wont be dealing with a site that cant sell anything

No im not a shitty driver i can drive like anyone else, but a shitty set up like i had before doesnt work with me.

We all make adjustments to our cars for our liking. If you just put shit on and call it and day and dont do anything then YOUR THE IDIOT.

rofl :cj: much to your boyfriend razor. The fact that im telling you that kybs and lowering springs suck is because they do. Why do you think pple get rid of them to go to coilovers. The obvious reason is that they suck. 1 not all coilovers are adjustable.


Dont be racist against foreign pple. The shop is owned by persians and the original owner was person.

Dont get me wrong but if asians can make performance parts that ACTUALLY do what they are suppose to do, then persians can cut springs safely to not have issues.

If you have a racist comment im gunna say this now you sir are a racist bastard and if i ever see you anywhere i wont think twice about poping you one because I AM persian and its offensive to hear anything racist.

No not really, anything can happen no matter what setup you got.

SO your telling me that if i get a full set up the car will NEVER EVER spinout and loose control? Sounds farfetched to me, no suspesion in the world can keep your car from spinning out.

2. I lost control that day because i actually hit a dip in the road when i was turning and that caused me to loose control

and im done, you all are a waste of my breath and i laugh at every comment so hard my sides hurt.

If lowering springs and cut springs will be very similar whats the point of telling me that i cant afford lowring springs. Since everyone says both are basically the same then why not cut them instead.

ill put a sticker on the back of my car that says"Im a ricer" if that makes you all feel better.:faint:

You all make me want to troll this site so bad but i wont because your temtations are silly and amuzing and wont help.

and ya know being banned is a good thing, it lets you not hear stupid comments. And wahts the point of selling stuff on here if you are never gunna sell it. I see alot of for sale threads with everything still there for sale and the person just ignores all responces of "price for shipping, im local ill pick it up.Oh i sent a pm with my number call me when you want me to pick it up"

im gunna start buying everything new for now on until people can actual sell shit instead of piss off seller. :wtf:

I researched this and got answers but it was only for mustangs and hondas.

I found that if you only cut an inch to 1 and 1/4 inch off stock springs it doesnt change ride quality at all. I could be wrong but i know someone who has a primered s13 hatchback with cut springs on it for about 2 yrs now and he INFACT drifts his car. Now i have been lead to believe that he is full of it sometimes but i have infact driven his car to and from atlanta through potholes etc and it felt like stock to me and apparently him since he has had the car like that for 2 years never had issues.

If those who cant afford to lower their cars the right way. Why Cant they cut the stock springs this way??? If it isnt cut more than an inch or 1 and 1/4 whats wrong with that?

all good points, but i am not i cant even save enough to even buy anything passed lowering springs since my insurance not only sucks, its because its my daily and i dont want it too low. I want a 1 inch and a half drop all around. My front is already that low from first owner im third.\

And im gunna admit this no matter how much bashing i get, there were 3 owners to the car, the first one cut the front springs so much that theres only 3 twists in the coil so the front sits about 5 inches off the ground now from the lip. The rear still has that 4x4 stance and i hate it.The second owner threw in megan tension rods in after he bought it.

The car was driven for 3 years like that and i can tell you right now it aint close to being shitty nor bouncy. Like i said the second owner may be full of shit when he said it was an aftermarket spring, but i knew it was cut in the first place.\

The only thing is is that the shocks in the front and rear are stiffer than what normal shocks are suppose to be. I cant find what brand they are i just know they are stiffer than oem since i can push down on the hood and it has no compression. But when i go over speed bumps big or small it rebounds like stock.

Now i really just want to lower the back with lowering springs but noone sells just 2. If i got 2 locally or from an online store, i would be alot safer.

LASTLY AND MOST IMPORTANT. I cant have the car too low ie the tires are almost literaly in the wheelwell. The reason is is that i dont want to scuff anything. I want it as low as i want it.

Call me ricer and that im ruining the 240, but i like how the ride quality was on my friends car after driving it for an hr in atlanta. Dont get me wrong, a car is at best to what the owner feels and likes not to what others think. Its their car, if they want to add a turbo whistler to sound like they have a turbo or whatever let them.

I swear to fucking christ that the front are stiff as fuck for cut springs. I dont know where the original owner got the shit done but it feels like its done right.

Second the invoice i got from them that states all whats replaced says INFACT they are aftermarket but no aftermarket spring looks like this:

[url]http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/images/1/07/16/09.jpg

Not my real suspension but that coil is 100% accurate to what my front ones look and that fucker is stiff as hell.

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) I HAVE a good paying job but its not really helping. I DO infact want lowering springs but i dont really know which ones i want because im thinking of getting coilovers instead.

Im actually 25 and AM a graphic designer. I get paid well enough for 2 rb25s if i wanted too, but I HAVE more priorities than to get better suspension.

I DONT DRIVE FAR FOR MORE THAN 30 MINS unless its to atlanta for drifting then yea i see all your points that im risking it

But think about it, 3 years and no issues except that the front looses a bit of traction when i turn hard enough on purpose.

raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html) THE CUT SPRINGS WERE DONE PROFESSIONALLY BY A SUSPENSION SHOP i HAVE THE INVOICE

I AGREE WITH MOST OF YOU THAT THIS ISNT THE BEST WAY TO GET THE CAR LOWER ETC, but at the time i really dont give a damn

My goal is the actually replace EVERY SUSPENSION component at the end of this year. SO I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT "HOW BAD THE RIDE QUALITY IS ETC"

BTW raz0rbladez909 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/raz0rbladez909.html), my shit will stop faster than any aftermarket brakes ive owned, IN THE RAIN!!!!.


So go ahead and slam on your brakes, I bet you i can stop fast enough to not hit you.

Dont this 5 times and all were behind expensive cars evidently.

EVERY STRUT AND SHOCK IS BRAND NEW AS OF 2 MONTHS AGO WITH THE CUT SPRING IN THE FRONT ALL ARE MONROE SHOCKS AND STRUTS. Was told those can deal with any lowering spring or cut spring better than oem suspension.

Anyone local wanna drive the car? I bet that anyone local who drives it wont feel a difference.

well razor is wrong its not homemade it was done by a performance suspension shop.

Ok, I want to cut them for the purpose of how low i want to set my adjustable coilovers or whatever suspension i want.

I am well aware that i can flip the car or loose control but after 4 tickets in the s14 i use to have that was fully stock "I WAS LIVING LA VIDA FAST AND FURIOUS" since i loved 240s so much.

The problem was that car HAD lowering springs on kybs and you know what i went off road and hit a tree. I had brand new tires on that car and it failed to stop no matter how much i tried to control it. It wasnt good enough.

I have jumped curbs with that setup so many times that i hated lowering springs and kybs for that reason.

So for 3 years of driving cut and drifting at high speeds i had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fuckin more control.

If it drives good and handles good than its good enough for me.

Fuck those who think cut springs are bad. If its done right it performs right and if it feels oem to me than it is cut right.

I never ever ever fuckin ever said i was never gunna save for coilovers. That is my plan but im doing little bit at a time on the suspension.


I rarely rarely drive on the highway. Everything i need and want to go to is nearly 30 mins away.
The most ive driven on the highway was 3 hrs and i had no fucking issues.

Besides im only gunna drive it until the end of the year thats when ill have my coilovers and turbo kit. Im just gunna ride them cut until then.

Having them like that to me just makes you more aware of what your doing more.



Quoted every post for truth

[Wake]

Cmon guys seriously.

All he wanted to know was the safest way to be unsafe and put everyone around him at risk all while looking cooler from his .5 inch drop.
no need for flaming.

[drift240_2009]

Because there are no rules in life that you says you have to stay on one subject.

2.I cant afford much because insurance is high. I am not spending more than what the car is worth. If they are worth atleast 2500 why would anyone want to spend that much on suspension stuff,motor etc.

Drive what you got do what you want to your own cars. :fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2:: fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2:

[Edwin562]

he mad.....

[raz0rbladez909]

Where did the 2. come from? Was there supposed to be a 1.?

Drive what you got do what you want to your own cars. :fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2:: fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2::fawk2:
You are so cool right now

[Wake]

Or a 3. for that matter? LOL I thought the exact same thing.

i love that argument.

So by that logic, all the people with lets say a '52 chevy bel air, Which was sticker priced at something like $1700 should never put more than that amount into their car? So if somebody finds said bel air for $1000 dollars somewhere and decides to restore it they should limit the restoration to $999?

I dont understand, to me the joy of owning a s13 was that i paid $700 for my car so i can spend the rest of my money money making it nice. i just dont understand this "throw away" mentality.

[PoorMans180SX]

If they are worth atleast 2500 why would anyone want to spend that much on suspension stuff,motor etc.


Maybe because: WE LOVE THESE CARS.

They're not just "cars" to us, they're prized possessions. We work on them and drive them for FUN.

I take back my previous statement. You're not ignorant. You're stupid.

This is a forum for S, Z, R chassis enthusiasts. Not people who just want to jump on the drifting/hellaflush/stance bandwagon. Go away and don't ever come back.

[Wake]

So much blue in here it looks like your thread just got bukkake'd by smurfs.

[towlie]

It did towlie? Are you retarded now:picardfp:

Yes, yes it appears so.

:keke:

[enkei2k]

I go to the track every day since ive owned this car. Did i ever say i had the s14 still,no. That was 6 years ago. I drive my daily on the track in many conditions.


how can you afford to go to the track when you can't even afford basic necessities?

serious question.

[drift freaq]

how can you afford to go to the track when you can't even afford basic necessities?

serious question.

Its called Schizophrenia . He is in a completely false reality that he thinks is real and hallucinates it daily.

[SRTFerg]

He actually just refers to the streets as a track to make him sound more badass...

[One_love_silvia]

how is this not locked by now...
http://mustardcat.brinkster.net/blog/rice.jpg

[raz0rbladez909]

how is this not locked by now...

I think because the mods are still in shock like this :picardfp:

[n8RPS13]

I think because the mods are still in shock like this :picardfp:

Either that or they are just laughing their asses off!

[CrimsonRockett]

Christ.

OP, if you can supposedly afford two RB25's (which isn't much anyway), you should be more than able to afford a simple set of lowering springs.

Quit asking stupid questions and learn how to do research on your own.