Hello. This is my '91 S13.4DET Project.

[S13.75DET]

Hello! My name is Ryan and I must say, Damn it feels good to be working on a 240 again! I just got my project back and needed to join this forum again (used to have an account like 6 years ago but i forgot it). So if anyone cares here is my 240 story.

I orginally bought a '95 equipped with a redtop, frontmount, electromotive tecII, cat-back exhaust, act stage 3 clutch, jun flywheel, type s bov, eibach springs, some 17" rota wheels and big fat gay spoiler.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/1.jpg
So drove it around for a little and decided to to a Kouki headlights with zenki corners, added a cf hood, and a s15 steering wheel and shift knob, and some custom headrests.
Then I side swiped a guard rail while learning how to drift and it was "totaled" according to the ins.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/3.jpg
So I took it to college while trying become a Motorsports Engineer at UNCC. So as it turns out my college roomate also had a zenki that was looking real nice (forum member name unknown) and was wanting to do a redtop conversion. So as luck would have it he ended up buying this 91 S13 auto rolling shell with a redtop on the side and he decided that we could trade out some parts from my s14 for the s13 shell and thus began my project called S13.4det.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/5.jpg
So the shell only had wheels, glass, doors and steering column. Nothing else. So in went my Zenki black leather/fuade dash, door panels, center console, seats, dash support, blower motor, heater core, clutch pedal, and steering column. Okay now i have an interior.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/7.jpg
I got the engine, powertrain, wiring, ecu, all in the car and it wouldn't run right. The TEC II basically took a shit on me after several attempts of service and new harnesses and coil packs. Then the shit hit the fan and i got into some financial issues and was forced to sell the car to a buddy of mine.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/6.jpg
This buddy of mine decided to pay me to finish what i had started, except he wanted to put down around 500hp and wanted to put on a wide body kit. So we started buying stuff, like a top mount t70, huge front mount, aluminum driveshaft, greddy intake and oil pan, hks stage 3 top end, fuel pump, fpr, fuel rail, type r bov, 50mm wastegate, j30t rear end, etc. We never got finished ordering parts for the engine when we decided to put on the wide body kit along with S14 kouki front end conversion fenders. Then after that we were deciding which stand alone system to run, when he got arressted and went to jail and he sold the car.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/9.jpg
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Then I moved 2000 miles away it sat for 3 years and parts slowly were sold off of it.

Fastforward to 2011 and i figured out where the car was and bought it back and towed it out to my new humble abode in Colorado. So now i have this project on my hands and i cant wait to finish it and get it back on the road!

So i need your help with parts, information, advise, criticism, comments and concerns. So stay tuned for updates and pics.

Thanks for reading!

[atomicguy7]

Very nice, sold, and bought it back, hope to see more pics!

[S13.75DET]

Very nice, sold, and bought it back, hope to see more pics!

Thanks! Got a few pics of the progress on the front end..

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0309.jpg
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[misterdumby]

If i were to do any conversion on a hatch it would be a kouki front :yum:

[S13.75DET]

finished tubbing the front and got the s14 rad support on.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0103.jpg
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[redhatchy92]

sick looking tubs. looking good keep it up

[1slowS13]

i hope that kit isnt molded on. eek.

[S13.75DET]

i hope that kit isnt molded on. eek.

good thing its not your car then.

[thefro526]

Cool story, cool car.

Random question: Did you rivet your tubs together?

[S13.75DET]

Cool story, cool car.

Random question: Did you rivet your tubs together?

Yes the tubs and front rad support are in position with 1/8" by 3/8" rivets, but everything is going to be welded and seam sealed.

[xiaphin]

So I took it to college while trying become a Motorsports Engineer at UNCC. So as it turns out my college roomate also had a zenki that was looking real nice (forum member name unknown) and was wanting to do a redtop conversion.

(forum member name known)
Xiaphin

Still staying up late I see. One pic was at 5:27 AM.

And there is more to this crazy story. Bought the 91 auto, redtop, bodykit, 2 ka engines, sparco seats and some other crap for 2k. Gave him the car for strut tower bars, struts with eibach springs, sunroof, leather backseats, and swaybars etc. My carbon fiber hood flew up on the interstate thats why I needed the sunroof. My car ended up getting stolen and I gave him back the only thing the thieves didnt steal, the swaybars.

[Krusty_s13]

keep up the work on the build.
and how did the motorsports engineering go. ive been thinking of going to school there and doing the same.

[S13.75DET]

so i decided to practice my painting skills on my fmic piping and my cage this week. What a PITA it was to prep those cage bars!! Took about 10 hrs of grinding with a paint/rust epoxy wheel and a drill followed by a good sanding of 240g paper before using ppg epoxy etch primer.
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Decided to go with Teak Brown Metallic from Audi.
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1647.jpg
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sorry for some crappy pics, some were from my ipod others with my nikon.

it turned out pretty decent imho for a first-time-booth-paint-session.

My plan is to mask off painted areas then weld the cage in, then just blend in when i spray the car.


I also deflashed the molded rubber material used as sound deadening on the car
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1630.jpg
and i removed the oem bushings from my rear subframe
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1633.jpg

lemme know what you think...

i know brown is not a favorite color on here, but i grew up near Hershey, PA and it reminds me of sweeeeet sweeeeet chocolate too much to pass up. :p

here is the link (http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/#!cpZZ2QQtppZZ12) to my PhotoBucket that has some vids of me laying down color, clear, and final walk through

[Nick_04K]

That Audi brown is actually a very beautiful color. Now do more work and post more updates so i can decide what i think of this.

[S13.75DET]

keep up the work on the build.
and how did the motorsports engineering go. ive been thinking of going to school there and doing the same.

Thanks! I would recommend it to anyone who is serious about motorsports. It is a great program and UNCC is an amazing school to attend. I just wish i could have stayed long enough to finish my degree...:duh:

[kornmanz]

Nice I'll keep tabs on this thread keep it up! Love the painted intercooler piping.

[S13.75DET]

finished installing the painted base cage. Need more piping to finish cage supports and waiting on my ISIS suspension and PBM Solid Subframe Risers so i can install my new rear subframe...
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0123.jpg
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some better pics
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1657.jpg
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[S13.75DET]

Tubs welded...
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[PoorMans180SX]

What's up with the goofy cage design?

[S13.75DET]

What's up with the goofy cage design?

Haha yeah... it is designed to go through the vents of a s14 dash- which is what is going in the car, and the back cross...idk thats just how it was made. I thought about ditching it and getting/making something else, but i feel safe under it.

[S13.75DET]

finished sealing the inside of the tubs, the frond rad support, and all of the bases of the cage.

i used Dow Automotive Betaseal One U-518 Primerless Urethane in case you were wondering
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[DRIFT-ELITE]

weirdest cage set up ive seen....but gl with your build..looks like its coming along pretty good

[xiaphin]

Are the S14 dash and door panels that used to be in there going to be reinstalled?

[S13.75DET]

Are the S14 dash and door panels that used to be in there going to be reinstalled?

Yup it kinda has to. It has the s14 steering column, dash support, blower motor, and heater core all custom mounted in there. Im going to make my own cluster for all of my gauges.

[SC90S13]

doin it right, keep up the nice work man.

[Dek-Thai]

looking good man gl with build

[mxsx25]

Hmm.. would that cage pass any organizations regulations? Also how come you didn't go larger with the tubs? Don't get me wrong they look awesome but they don't look like they give much more room than stock? Regardless of all that ur doin good keep it up!

[S13.75DET]

Hmm.. would that cage pass any organizations regulations? Also how come you didn't go larger with the tubs? Don't get me wrong they look awesome but they don't look like they give much more room than stock? Regardless of all that ur doin good keep it up!

NHRA Specs call for min 1 5/8" dia 1/8 thick piping, this is 1 3/4" 0.120dom so yes it will pass. The angle that tubs are at allot for 3" extra clearance when the wheel is straight on, at bump stop it gains about 3/4" But this is not going to be a drift car, just drag.

[1r1]

Its inspiring to see this type of work. keep it up

[S13.75DET]

fitted front bumper. headlights and hood are just sitting there for mock up.


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[Kyle W.]

looks good man.

[S13.75DET]

so here is a little update on my car. I lost my job in august and was unemployed for three months and am still battling with unemployment to get my case finished. But now I found a new full time job and have some steady income coming in and can afford to work on the car some more. I recently painted the whole car in Audi Ipanema Brown. I rented a paint booth from a friend for $50 bucks a day and got the car done in three days which included two coats of primer, color and clear. Materials cost me around 1150, and that was for high end paint and clear coat with a primer/sealer. here are some pics:
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/2011-11-23_23-27-19_12.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/2011-11-24_19-31-33_500.jpg
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[rage]

did you really shave the door handles and mold the kit?

i would take pics of the cage and send it to someone who techs nhra or whatever it is youre trying to do with this thing

[S13.75DET]

did you really shave the door handles and mold the kit?

i would take pics of the cage and send it to someone who techs nhra or whatever it is youre trying to do with this thing

Full-Bodied Cars
On full-bodied cars with driver in driving position, helmet must be in
front of main hoop. If helmet is behind or under main hoop,
additional tubing same size and thickness as roll cage must be
added to protect driver. Main hoop may be laid back or forward, but
driver must be encapsulated within the required roll-cage
components. On unibody cars with stock floor and firewall (wheel
tubs permitted), the roll cage may be bolted or welded to the
floor/rocker box via 6-inch x 6-inch x .125-inch steel plates similar to
the roll-bar attachment requirements of paragraph 4:10 in this
section. Unless attaching to OEM floor or frame, the minimum
requirements for a frame member to which a roll-cage member is
attached are 1 5/8-inch x .118-inch MS or .083-inch CM round
and/or 2-inch x 2-inch x .058 MS or CM rectangular.

and the pics should answer your question.

[Imarvin240]

hah guys, why does it matter that he shaved the door handles and molded the kit? everyone does things different with THEIR CAR. im not a fan of the new headlights, but im not going to bitch about it hah. looks like it should be a fun car when its done.

[S13.75DET]

i also shaved the body line, the rear quarter lights, and the antenna..... and i love it

[Imarvin240]

its good that you aren't going the cookie cutter way like half the people on this forum. Im with you on being a bit different hah

[S13.75DET]

thanks! this isn't my first rodeo nor will it be my last. i like to do things that i haven't done before also. im all about learning new things i guess

[badbob2121]

awesome looking project, paint looks like it turned out great

[SRTFerg]

Is it just me or does it look like he has a dent right behind the driver door? Loving the color also.

[S13.75DET]

Is it just me or does it look like he has a dent right behind the driver door? Loving the color also.

i think what you're seeing is the transistion of the rear wide fenders to the side skirt. My JV molding job haha

[xiaphin]

Really diggin the color man... keep that job and keep the 240 alive

[S13.75DET]

so i urethaned my 180sx quarter glasses in with dow automotive 418 quick cure primerless urethane. i also installed my wilwood (chasebays) boosterless master cylinder with chasebays inbay brake line relocation kit. got the VIN plates back on along with the wiper posts/linkage/motor and cowl intstalled. i also installed the mirrors, door weather stripping and b-pillars, and both door glasses.
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[Darren]

Cage will NOT pass, because of this:
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0120.jpg

These bars need to be lined up ... the way you have them creates a double sheer and will just cut through the down bar on a hard side impact.

Otherwise, good work!

[S13.75DET]

I was going to add a couple cross bars just for that reason

[S13.75DET]

got my taillights in. painting the garnish and center panel tommorrow.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/2011-12-15_16-38-13_47.jpg

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/2011-12-15_16-37-46_930.jpg

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[S13.75DET]

Finished up the garnish and center panel. They turned out excellent!! I also mounted up my hood. Ive read that anyone doing the s13.4 conversion just bolts up s14 hood brackets and walla it fits. Thats a load of crap. I had to drill new holes, tap them, and i used a whole tube(s) of JB weld, and just to make sure i urethaned over top of the bolts. These hood brackets are never coming off of this car, kinda like everything else.

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[ILoveJDM]

i thought those downturn back parts of the cage were illegal too?
IIRC there was a green hatch with tubes like this before and i remember someone saying they werent legal.
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[memphis180sx]

whats your intentions with the car besides driveing it

[S13.75DET]

whats your intentions with the car besides driveing it

to have fun in it.

maybe beat up on a few ferraris and lambos lurkin the streets of aspen.

test and tune nights in grand junction.

have sex with the tailpipe :doh:

[hypercrush]

hmmm. interesting. i like the brown color

[joel.e.krueger]

I absolutely love the color. Seriously contemplating looking into it for my s13. Car is beautiful.

[S13.75DET]

I absolutely love the color. Seriously contemplating looking into it for my s13. Car is beautiful.

Thank you! I cant describe how nice it is in person! It has everything I wanted in a color, bronze, gold, brown, and orange.


Here are a couple quick pics of my new 2.5Lb NRG Carbon Roof:
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/2011-12-23_16-25-44_178.jpg
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[STL240SXDRIFT]

Carbon roof...dope. How did you fit it? Cut the stock metal out and sealed it in?

[S13.75DET]

Carbon roof...dope. How did you fit it? Cut the stock metal out and sealed it in?

nope. it's just an overlay. it comes with 3m double sided tape that you use to just stick it onto your roof. I added some urethane however, just to make sure that it doesn't come off. This was lighter and nicer than the oem glass sunroof and the fitment is perfect!

[dangle33]

I love your car man! im planing on doing that front end on my S13 to, they look amazing, keep it up!