Drift Day 9 woot woot

[ZOLTAN]

Who's going?
This will be my first drift event. Plus, I've never been to Vegas.
Only problem is my lsd isn't here yet:cry: , so I'll just have to suffer with my open diff I guess.
Oh well. It's still going to be a blast.

Ok, now here is a question.
I have an extra open diff sitting here at home, would it be worth it to weld the gears and have a cheap posi?
The idea would be to get there(I'm coming from Indiana) and pull off the open and put on the "ghetto posi".:wiggle:
I've driven muscle cars that have had this done to them and it's stupid fun.
Skipping wheel. lol.



.Eddie.

[RBS14]

Weld it! i don't see why not, just don't drive here from indiana with the welded one. OUCH! just swap them out when you get out here.

[ZOLTAN]

LOL.
I wouldn't drive it to there with the weled diff.

[Flybert]

I'll be there if I can get my newer KA up in there and running properly. I also need to break in the new clutch before I get there. I'm cutting it kinda close so we'll see. I might have to get a refund.

[RBS14]

Just remember when at Drift Days.....go with the flow. Don't get pissed when they start an hour late because all of the "instructors" get to tear up the course b4 all the people who paid to participate in the event.

Also pace yourself.....you'll get a fair bit of track time and will be quite tired by the end of the day. Try to keep yourself from getting too tired cause that's when you make mistakes. That's about all the advice i have.

Also try not to get too irked when they have 500 exhibitions during the day by one of the signal drifers. After all, you paid to watch someone else drift didn't you?.......

just my centiments, take it for what its worth. HAVE FUN!

EDIT: actually i do have more advice. Ask as many questions as possible. have the instructors ride with you, they know a lot. That's one great thing about Drift Days, you will learn a lot if you choose to. Talk with Moto, he knows a lot about the dynamics of drifting.

[ZOLTAN]

Thanks for the advice.
I'm always willing to learn, so hopefully I'll soak up as much info as possible while I'm there.
I don't think I'll mind the exhibitions, I learn alot just watching.

SEMA is the same weekend, correct?


.eddie.

[RBS14]

Originally posted by ZOLTAN
Thanks for the advice.
I'm always willing to learn, so hopefully I'll soak up as much info as possible while I'm there.
I don't think I'll mind the exhibitions, I learn alot just watching.

SEMA is the same weekend, correct?


.eddie.

Werd.

SEMA is the first week(end) of November.

[bwalker240]

Hope you have a blast! Just have fun and try to ask questions and get instructors to ride with you - get rides from more advanced people too. Drink lots of water and take time to eat a decent lunch.



Originally posted by RBS14
[B]Just remember when at Drift Days.....go with the flow. Don't get pissed when they start an hour late because all of the "instructors" get to tear up the course b4 all the people who paid to participate in the event.

Also try not to get too irked when they have 500 exhibitions during the day by one of the signal drifers. After all, you paid to watch someone else drift didn't you?.......



That San Francisco Drift Day was an anomaly RBS14 - why harp on it. The surface at Candlestick was extremely uneven, which required extensive testing to make sure it was safe:

http://www.calidrifting.com/picsdatabase/DriftDay6/brendan.jpg

Also, that was the only time Signal has ever done any demos at Drift Day. It was meant to be a treat for the nor cal people. Many enjoyed it. Sorry you didn't.

Drift Days are a great place to learn (I did) and have been essential in getting drifting to the state it is in now by providing a safe and fun atmosphere.

[Dousan_PG]

rbs14...dead on. werd. signal demo was a waste of MY track time and MY money.
8 instructors dont need to 'set up' a track. im not that stupid and neither are most people. 2 or 3 is MORE then enough.

we started..what...2 hours or so later? maybe a bit more/less.
i think i got 3 laps on the BIG course in 1 hour!

i hope they dont have that stuff again. but lately it seems its been better/like previous ddays

anyways. see you there. ill be there. have fun is the key of the day. learn a lot.

lots of east coast folks will be there too. should be a blast! :)

[bwalker240]

Aaron,

You of all people should know that it was an anomaly too. Has that type of thing happened before?

[Dousan_PG]

mm for the mst part no.
but lately the few events have started 1-2 hours later then planned
why? various reason im sure.
planning
attendants
etc..

either way..demos SUCK for learning days. simple as that. save the demos for exhibitions (d1 usa, driftshowoff, etc etc)

[RBS14]

Yea, those exhibitions were for the spectators who didn't pay to be there. If driftdays are to improve the participants abilities, how does watching drifter x, Ernie and a few others drift help me become a better driver?

I'm still failing to see how it would have been unsafe. please explain it to me. Besides, they "tested" for over an hour and still didn't change hardly anything.

My main beef with the Drift Days is that they are unorganized and too crowded.

Think about it....

-Drift Day for $100 dodging cones with 70 other people, maybe 15 miles of track time.
-Events held by Al of modified toys at buttonwillow for $120 and 15 other people with no specific run groups and 100 miles of track time.

[bwalker240]

Actually, I was starting to type out a reply RBS14, but i remembered that this has all been played out before and is really old news - in all honestly I don't really care to go into again. You obviously like to generalize your singular experience as something that occurs routinely, which it doesn't.

Aaron, when was the last time you drove in a drift day? DD6? I think the the last two started on time. I know I'm there trying to help setup at 6:00. This last time, we actually had a good 50% of the drivers there by 6:30 - that really helped.

Yep, Buttonwillow on a weekday only for $120 dollars is a great deal. However, no formalized instructor setup and less scrutiny at those - sometimes thats good and sometimes thats bad - I think it depends on the skill level of the driver.

[Dousan_PG]

i talk witha lot of folks mr. walker. you know that. i know lots of people who drive these events.
either way, im doing dd9 and dd10. so hopefully they will start on time. its a lot of money considering its cone dodging and the amount of time you get. but its better then watching from the sidelines. right? :) of course.

im doing primarly buttonwllow/streets (grip) events next year. dds are expensive and too many newbs/smaller/low speed course setups. unless it's fontana might jump on those. higher speed, more advanced layouts.

anyways. drift days are great for beginners. can really learn a lot safely.

[midnights14]

And also, don't you have to clean up after yourself at Buttonwillow? I heard you have to sweep off the excess tire when you're done...

[nokeone]

you all make valid points and i think the key thing to remember is that this is all personal experience..what is thought by one will not be by others..

DD6, i wouldn't doubt, was an exception to the majority of Club 4AGs events...but, in all honesty, it sucked..all the points referenced above are more than valid...however, i would not judge ALL DD events based on that one experience..

i, personally, will not be attending anymore DD events in the future..simply because i think there are events of more value out there...J-turns for 3 hours no longer benefit me..neither does overcrowded cone dodging...

but, if it was my first event i would without a doubt want it to be a DD event...for a beginner there is no other place to gain the experience one will here...the instructors are very knowledgable, the courses are not overly complicated, and the slow pace suits the learning curve nicely...

factor in that it's at least a 5-6 hour drive to any of these events from the Bay Area and it's a no brainer for me...

but that being said, i would encourage anyone looking to get into drifting to attend one of these events..as much as DD6 lacked...i don't regret my participation in it..

[nokeone]

Originally posted by midnights14
And also, don't you have to clean up after yourself at Buttonwillow? I heard you have to sweep off the excess tire when you're done...

no..

there is occasional clean up during the day to remove debris from the track for safety issues...and if, at the end of the day, there are rocks and such covering the track it is nice of you to clean it up...but they have blower machines mounted on tractors which do this job after you end your day..

[RBS14]

That is one thing that is for sure.....Drif Days are GREAT beginner events. I learned more at DD5 than any other event i've ever participated in. It was great.

Bwalker- im not personally bashing you. You know that right? im just expressing my opinions.

[nokeone]

Originally posted by RBS14

-Events held by Al of modified toys at buttonwillow for $120 and 15 other people with no specific run groups and 100 miles of track time.

just to clarify..Al puts the events on himself..he has no affiliation with Modified Toys at this time..

[RBS14]

Originally posted by nokeone
just to clarify..Al puts the events on himself..he has no affiliation with Modified Toys at this time..

thank you for the correction sir.

[ZOLTAN]

I have another question.
One of the rules is no passengers allowed.
Does this mean I will not get a chance to ride along with a more experienced driver?
I really feel I would benefit from it.
To me alot of the driving experience is feel.

To be perfectly honest this is not something I want to do, or practice, on public roads. So, I'm coming into this event with nothing but auto-x experience. And, more than likely a very ill prepared car.


.eddie.

[Dousan_PG]

bah another thing i hate
you can only ride passenger w/ instructors.

boooooo
but i've voiced that before on 4ag. its just a rule for new locations. :mad:

[ZOLTAN]

That will work for me.
Sometimes it's easier to grasp a concept when you can experience it first hand.

[Bliss]

Originally posted by dousan36

boooooo
but i've voiced that before on 4ag. its just a rule for new locations. :mad:

have you heard of them planning to change the rule at all? are they firm on it? hmmm, i think it would be fun/educational (:D) as a newb to ride with some of the more experienced guys.

[Dousan_PG]

some of the instructors are good. u can ride w/ them.

personally, i like to give rides and get rides from EVERYONE i can. help eachother out and give ideas to eachother that someone else might not notice (ex. something an instructor might not see/know about). also if your friends are good,they know your style, your cars setup..etc etc..but....


i really dont like the 'no passenger' rule

[Bliss]

does anyone know of any SAFE environments where you are allowed to ride with someone? obviously anything not sanctioned by a group, you can, but im referring to "sponsored" events (i know im not using the right word, im sure u guys get the idea tho)

[nokeone]

Originally posted by Bliss
does anyone know of any SAFE environments where you are allowed to ride with someone? obviously anything not sanctioned by a group, you can, but im referring to "sponsored" events (i know im not using the right word, im sure u guys get the idea tho)

passengers are happily allowed at all Buttonwillow Events..:)..well..the ones that are put one once a month or so by Al..(Truenocoupe)..dunno about speedtrials, redline events, or TCRA...

[StanBo]

I can't wait for this event. I went to an event last year where we drove 14 hours to get two practice runs and two comp runs.

I was lucky, I paid an extra $100 for "drift school" (it was pretty much a track school.

I got to hit a skidpad with water intermitten for close to an hour and got to drive on a 10 turn course with 8 or so of the turns covered in peanut oil.

I think this event will be fun. I finally get to meet so many of the people that I read about.

Keep it on the positive fellas.