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wntrcoatblu240
10-23-2003, 02:01 PM
i recently obtained a set of JIC coilovers for my car and i have it dropped pretty low, so i have go up the driveways at an angle... my problem is whenever i go up any driveway on of my rear wheels pops up and leaves the ground... SINCE i have an OPEN diff right now.. So, all the power from the engine is transfered to the ONE wheel that is off the ground right? hence, i can't make it up the driveway, because the wheel that is off the ground is getting all the power... my REAL question is.... what kind of LSD can i get that would make BOTH of my wheels turn dispite the fact that one of the wheels is completely off the ground? 1.5? 2? clutch? helical? neither?
i know this problem can be solved by raising my car up 1/2 inch, but 240s look so much better slammed... plus it give me a reason to get myself an LSD...
Dousan_PG
10-23-2003, 02:05 PM
i think a 1, 1.5 or 2 way clutch wll work
my helical used to do same as your current problem. :p
wntrcoatblu240
10-23-2003, 02:09 PM
so if i pick up a 95-96 j30 or any VLSD from any 240sx would solve my problem?
sykikchimp
10-23-2003, 02:09 PM
clutch or vlsd would help your situation..
helical is the only LSD that would not.
DuffMan
10-23-2003, 02:16 PM
I have been wondering, is it possible for a open diff to still transfer some torque to the non slipping wheel when its in good condition, but not after a certain amount of wear?
The reason I was wondering, is because I hear about people getting stuck all the time, and it never happens to me with my stiff suspension and open diff. Even when one rear wheel was in the air, and the other in a muddy ditch, it still was able to move with a little help. Never gets stuck going into a driveway either, just chirps.
sykikchimp
10-23-2003, 02:34 PM
I've never got stuck either.. momentum, and inertia, are usually enough to keep you moving.
In mud the tire still has a bit of resistance. Not much, but any is enough to divert a bit of power away.
There is likely a small amount of power transfered to the tire in contact with the pavement simply due to the friction of the gear lube being spun around the end of the output shaft. But that is just a guess.
JasonNagra
10-23-2003, 02:47 PM
I use to have the same prob going up certain driveways when I had only coilovers and no LSD. I have a Kaaz 2 way LSD now (clutch type) and I have NEVER had that problem again.
KiDyNomiTe
10-23-2003, 05:24 PM
Ya I've never been stuck, and tend to make 2 marks on burnouts a lot, its really only noticeable when turning.
DoriftoSlut
10-23-2003, 06:46 PM
With Helical diff, engaging the sidebrake SLIGHTLY will trick the diff into thinking both wheels have traction. It will put friction on the output shaft, which is used to bias the torque in a helical diff. Do the same thing if you are on ice and you aren't moving.
Open diff? Bah, shit out of luck. Sell that thing to your local bum, or even better, donate it. He can eat it for a couple weeks. Its not worth anything else.
gilwankel
10-23-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
Open diff? Bah, shit out of luck. Sell that thing to your local bum,
So that's why i keep seeing bums walking around with differentials. :p
ootranceformeroo
10-24-2003, 12:27 AM
hmm....so thats why I can never get up my friends driveway.....TIME FOR LSD!
hondaguy
10-24-2003, 12:41 AM
thats funny i had the same thing just happen to me but you can also pull the e-brake and it will grab the spinning wheel and send some power to the other will that will help you till you can get a lsd,good luck
Flybert
10-24-2003, 01:32 AM
I'm a substitute teacher and I'm about to pull into a junior high teacher parking lotl. I had just put on my coilovers and it was my second day with them. I approached the driveway all slow and with an angle, but little did I know that I needed momentum to get beyond the wheels off the ground point. I gassed it and started peeling out in front of a bunch of kids and parents. It was tight.
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