CXRacing Radiator

[sephrothm2]

I'm in need of a new radiator and I was looking into the CXRacing aluminum for 92 240sx. I was just wondering if my original fan will fit into this new one? I have beginners knowledge so any input would be great! thanks.

[srstan]

yes it will fit. a nice set of electric fans never hurt tho...

[!Zar!]

Clutch fan & shroud > efan

[srstan]

^agree. just saying some people like e fans. not me

[Corbic]

Clutch fan & shroud > efan

All day, every day.

Efans should only ever be used when a Clutch Fan won't fit.

[s14tan]

I swap to 2 FALs cause I was tired of hearing a hairdryer when I sped up.

[naw_speed]

All day, every day.

Efans should only ever be used when a Clutch Fan won't fit.
oe fans work better anyway.

[BoostSlideWayz]

your original fan will fit, and it has the original mounts for the stock shroud as well.

[Shadowhunter]

Love my CX radiator, mine came with two EFans which I am using and they work good. Stock will fit though.

[sephrothm2]

thanks guys. you guys are awesome :wiggle:

[cjmirabal1]

cx rad is great...i got 2 efans/with a summit racing fan sensor! things sound like turbines! cools alot better then stock did but thats in my case

[codyace]

No doubt clutch fans work...and will work for 85% of users.

However Altima E-Fans are a cheap/reliable/easy upgrade that work better, and on top of that make working on the car a breeze.

[Chamb-O]

here is an interesting thread on how well clutch fans work
and how well altima fans work

SR20DET Radiator and Fan Comparison Test - TexasNissans.com (http://texasnissans.com/tx/forums/showthread.php?t=10117)

Conclusions:

1.) It was proven that the most cost effective solution for an overheating SR20DET is an upper radiator ducting panel (which typically sell for $80-$200) and a lower ducting panel (ala bottom OEM plastic undertray panel). With regards to fans, the Altima fans will outflow almost anything commonly available on the market. That is pretty good considering that they typically cost between $50-$100 a pair.

[Corbic]

No doubt clutch fans work...and will work for 85% of users.

However Altima E-Fans are a cheap/reliable/easy upgrade that work better, and on top of that make working on the car a breeze.

Define "better". A E-fan does not pull as much air, nor as reliably as a clutch fan.

As for "working on", its like 5 minutes to pull the shroud and fan.

[codyace]

Define "better". A E-fan does not pull as much air, nor as reliably as a clutch fan.

Much of what is to be said is noted in the above test. At idle, that stock mechanical fan can not even compete with dual altima E fans on low, let alone if both wired on high.

Don't get me wrong at speed and down the highway, the fans make little to no difference...that rate proper ducting is better than anything at anything more than (again just my redneck assumption here) 35-40 mph.

Another thing to consider is RPM range vs speed. There are times where even you can be turning some RPM and not be going that fast, another + of the Altima fans.

However when you're sitting still, or in traffic and trying to move the most air...the Altima E fan simply flow more air than the stock fan would ever dream.


As for "working on", its like 5 minutes to pull the shroud and fan.

I don't mean this in a smart ass sense, but it's zero minutes for me. In between sessions every second counts when you're trying to quickly work on the car and or change stuff. I know I know, we're talking about street cars...but with anything, if I can simplify or cut down on in/out time, it's for me.




Cliffs: Stock stuff works fine for the majority of owners. For those needing optimal and or increased cooling, the Efans is the way to go. If I had a street car, you can bet your ass it would have the stock fan setup...then again with how easy and cheap the Altima fans are, I'd probably change it just because of how loud it is hehe.

[godrifttoday]

Cody have u had experience with ford taurus e-fans?

[chituntang]

Define "better". A E-fan does not pull as much air, nor as reliably as a clutch fan.

As for "working on", its like 5 minutes to pull the shroud and fan.

Define "reliable." I see many clutch fans have cracks all over them and its a matter of time when it shatters and destroys shit in its way.

Everything has its good and bad side.

[Corbic]

Define "reliable." I see many clutch fans have cracks all over them and its a matter of time when it shatters and destroys shit in its way.

Everything has its good and bad side.

If you see stress cracks... replace it?

Eclectic fans can fail for a number of reasons, motor fail, wire corrosion, controller fail... an you may not even know till your over heating.

[alexanderig]

Much of what is to be said is noted in the above test. At idle, that stock mechanical fan can not even compete with dual altima E fans on low, let alone if both wired on high.

Don't get me wrong at speed and down the highway, the fans make little to no difference...that rate proper ducting is better than anything at anything more than (again just my redneck assumption here) 35-40 mph.

Another thing to consider is RPM range vs speed. There are times where even you can be turning some RPM and not be going that fast, another + of the Altima fans.

However when you're sitting still, or in traffic and trying to move the most air...the Altima E fan simply flow more air than the stock fan would ever dream.



I don't mean this in a smart ass sense, but it's zero minutes for me. In between sessions every second counts when you're trying to quickly work on the car and or change stuff. I know I know, we're talking about street cars...but with anything, if I can simplify or cut down on in/out time, it's for me.




Cliffs: Stock stuff works fine for the majority of owners. For those needing optimal and or increased cooling, the Efans is the way to go. If I had a street car, you can bet your ass it would have the stock fan setup...then again with how easy and cheap the Altima fans are, I'd probably change it just because of how loud it is hehe.
+1 to all of this.

i have a cx racing rad and love it. and i switched to altima e fans and wired them on high. it pulls so much more air and it does make working in the bay alot easier when your in a rush.

[Bushido]

i got a cx rad too.

good quality, cheap price.

[skyline331]

I have one as well and works great.

[Ratpack_Chad]

Ive never had a problem with my CX radiator awesome price.

[chituntang]

If you see stress cracks... replace it?

Eclectic fans can fail for a number of reasons, motor fail, wire corrosion, controller fail... an you may not even know till your over heating.

I am just trying to prove a point where everything has its good side and bad side. Going with what you said, replace the bad motor, bad wiring, and bad controller would solve the problem. Plus if you drive a modified car, or even driving a bone stock car without monitoring the water temperature, you fail at life. If you just keep driving when your engine overheats, you fail at life...

People have failed efan setup because they use used components like used efans, used wires (existed wiring), shitty controller, and the most important reason - they have no idea about how electric works besides positives and negatives, where the fan motor and controller would get fuck up.

Like I said, my efan would not destroy things in engine bay like clutch fan does when it broke.

If clutch fan are so great and superior than efan, how come new cars do not run them?

Finally, like codyace said, clutch fan and efan cannot do shit when the car is running 35+ mph, as air will go through the radiator faster that the fan can pull. I am not here to tell people to run efan over clutch fan like you are doing, sir. Just trying to educate fellow Zilvians that thing works when done properly.

[Flicktitty]

i had a CXRad on a KA24DE. and it kept it VERY cool with the stock clutch fan, then i did the 2JZ swap. and i couldnt keep the car anywhere near cool. swapped to a koyo and seemed to do the trick. so if you have a big swap get a better radiator.

[Dori90]

are you still looking for one..is so i have a brand new one still in the box

[codyace]

Cody have u had experience with ford taurus e-fans?

Taurus fans actually work really well, but I've never put one in a 240 just due to the Altima fans looking like stock and fitting the radiator/between the rails decently.

I've used the Taurus fans on other projects with success...they move a TON of air. Big thing with them is you need to use a big amp relay to fire it off...IIRC off the top of my head it's a 70 or 80 amp relay...which also involves using the proper wire to make it all work as well.


Eclectic fans can fail for a number of reasons, motor fail, wire corrosion, controller fail... an you may not even know till your over heating.

Potential failure is potential failure with either of the fan options, and I think their con's negate each other in the grand scheme of things. Sure a wire could fail...so could the viscous coupling. Sure an eletric motor could fail...yet a fan could break too. Sure a controller could fail...or you can wire it up to be direct all the time? etc etc. WHile they should be considered, I don't think that any are dealbreakers.

In the end, the Altima fans to me work as a double safety too. They are OEM reliable (lets be serious, it's not like fans fail...and when they do it's SO random). Atop of that the Altima setup has 2 fans...so the chances for both failing due to mechanical failure are low. Sure a crappy/shoddy wire job could fail, but that's not a negative of the fan setup...it's USER error.

[Corbic]

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If clutch fan are so great and superior than efan, how come new cars do not run them?


Most cars have transversely mounted engines and the ones that aren't are complete packaging nightmares becuase of how cramped the engine bay is.

http://image.modified.com/f/15652727/sccp_0903_03_z+2009_nissan_370z+engine_bay.jpg

[Ottoman]

Most cars have transversely mounted engines and the ones that aren't are complete packaging nightmares becuase of how cramped the engine bay is.



and alot of new car owners don't want to hear "WWOOOOooooo" as they accelerate from a light...


also Clutch fan adds parasitic loses to the motor, losing HP as well as reducing engine response..

(dyno proven on an FC at least)

[TheRealSy90]

I have the cxracing rad and altima fans, stays about 180 degrees just tooling around town even in the Arizona summer.

Now on the freeway its a different story, at 3,500 around 70mph the temp would get up to 220-230 very fast, which is no bueno. I think its because the CXracing rad is so thin, its more like an oem replacement than a high performance radiator.

Running nismo thermostat, distilled water + water wetter.

[joeapple8]

If clutch fan are so great and superior than efan, how come new cars do not run them?


Cause most new cars are FWD.
BMW still uses clutch fans.

[codyace]

Cause most new cars are FWD.
BMW still uses clutch fans.

not on everything...if at all

[Robb]

Since my s14 was my DD, when I started to have cooling issues, I replaced my waterpump and in the midst cracked my radiator neck. So I ordered a new one and the company shipped me out an s13 radiator. I had to use it, so i grabbed a piece of fuel line, ran it to the overflow tank and called it a day.

Then I started to have issues with the clutch fan. On top of all the issues, the it took up so much room in the bay. I purchased a 1400 CFM flowing Hayden 16" electric fan for $65, paired it with the stock shroud, and called it a day. It runs cool (even in stop and go), doesn't sound like a truck, and eliminated all my cooling issues associated with my clutch fan. Plus, it looks a lot cleaner in the bay.