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jenne313
10-21-2003, 10:26 AM
I got my s13 carbon fiber hood yesterday from VIS. (550 shipped) They're really nice guys, easy to deal with, and they make a beautiful product! The hood is perfect! And the edges are rolled and the underside is finished. Just wanted to give them props for a great (!!) hood!

Pics to come of "Project Phoenix". lol

240Degrees
10-21-2003, 10:59 AM
POST PICTURES PLEAAAASE! sounds good. Do you have the pop up headlights? I'm thinking of getting a VIS hood myself.

SilviaDriver
10-21-2003, 11:36 AM
i have a vis s15 CF hood in my kitchen [no space else where] and its nice. rolled edges. fiberglass skeleton tho. the gloss is very nice.

Steeles
10-21-2003, 11:52 AM
I've been VERY pleased with every VIs hood I've seen. Im a little upset with mine because the vents in a stupid place and if functional not nearly as functional it could be if it had been move back like 6 inches. but put together very well. I've been running it since march and the latch is holding it just great never once have I been scared into going "chit I need hood pins before this bish flys up"

Crab Walker
10-21-2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by jenne313
I got my s13 carbon fiber hood yesterday from VIS. (550 shipped) They're really nice guys, easy to deal with, and they make a beautiful product! The hood is perfect! And the edges are rolled and the underside is finished. Just wanted to give them props for a great (!!) hood!

Pics to come of "Project Phoenix". lol

How Much Does it Weigh? And where did you but it from?


The lightest CF hood I've seen was 11 lbs I Think...

jenne313
10-21-2003, 02:23 PM
You can get the s13 (pop-up headlamps) carbon fiber hood direct from VIS for 550.00. Just call them and ask for the 240sx group buy. They're really nice and have great shipping times - I ordered it on Wednesday and had it on Monday the following week.

Weight? I haven't weighed it yet. I'll do that ASAP. But here's the thing, even if it weighs 15 pounds, that's still 35 punds lighter than my stock hood weighs. Major reduction! And will have plenty of pics once the car is put together. Soon! I'm thinking by the end of the week I'll post the thread.

Don't hesitate to get this hood. The only thing I don't love is the fact that they drill for the washer sprayers, but it's a small small hole and hardly noticable.

PS- I got the Sparco hood pins for it, for 32bux, not bad (about average price) and they're stainless, so they won't rust when they scratch. :)

RBS14
10-21-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Steeles
I've been VERY pleased with every VIs hood I've seen. Im a little upset with mine because the vents in a stupid place and if functional not nearly as functional it could be if it had been move back like 6 inches. but put together very well. I've been running it since march and the latch is holding it just great never once have I been scared into going "chit I need hood pins before this bish flys up"

with as smart as you are.....im genuinely surprised you don't have hood pins on a CF hood. :)

old_s13
10-21-2003, 07:56 PM
VIS takes pictures of do-luck's products and puts VIS watermarks on them.

I do not like VIS.

VIS makes copies of other companies kits and what not.

I do not like VIS.

SilviaSR20DET
10-21-2003, 11:41 PM
Where can you purchase the VIS hoods? Link to the website will be great. Im also looking forward to getting a cf hood on my 96 240. Maybe we can establish a group buy or something.

seiyess
10-22-2003, 12:15 AM
i have a vis hood on my 95 240sx and i like it alot.
rolled edge, nice gloss, nice skeleton, latch is ok.. it is always nice to have hood pins.. you never know..
but yeah.. very good quality.
hood pins.. i got sparcos.. and they are not very good... something's wrong.. the ring poped out at one end.. so it doesn't snap down.. but it still holds it.. so i'm okay with it..

and who cares if they make copies... ?? they make good CF so just buy CF hoods.. don't buy the copies..

jenne313
10-22-2003, 07:54 AM
Sorry Mike, I just don't buy what your selling. This is a great hood, made by awesome people, that's looks and fits fantastic. I realize they might make copies, but (please take this for what it is, an example, and not a flame) I'm not sure your company was the first to make clear corners, right? You just took another idea, made it better, and started marketing it. (Speaking of which, you should have a number to contact the company, I looked and there was only an email and I wanted to talk to someone about tails for my car)

Just my humble (but entirely firsthand) opinion.

They already have a group buy, just call and ask for the 240 buy.

And your Sparco horror story makes me nervous, I just got my pins and don't want them to suck!

Steeles
10-22-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by RBS14
with as smart as you are.....im genuinely surprised you don't have hood pins on a CF hood. :)

hahaha I know I know its one of those things I keep going.. ya know I REALLY should put hood pins on this thing... especailly since the fiberimages hood I had on there before flew up... (but that was because of broken hood pins and now OEM style latch on it) just havent gotten it done. I'll get some sparcos anodize them black along with the FMIC and a few other pieces and put them on sometime over the winter. but the factory style latch has held really well with the Vis including several runs of 100+mph and trips from NC to ATL at a average of at least 80. I quit worrying about it. but will still eventually put hood pins on. they just moved on the list from must have to i'll get to it someday

old_s13
10-22-2003, 10:04 AM
seiyess> and who cares if they make copies... ?? they make good CF so just buy CF hoods.. don't buy the copies..

I care that they make copies. First off, they arent MAKING true-CF, so dont get it twisted. What they ARE doing, is selling carbon-fiberglass hoods. Check the prices with companies that sell REAL carbon fiber components, then understand the difference in both price and quality. (Not that Do-Luck does, but atleast they come up with original designs).


jenne> Sorry Mike, I just don't buy what your selling. This is a great hood, made by awesome people, that's looks and fits fantastic. I realize they might make copies, but (please take this for what it is, an example, and not a flame) I'm not sure your company was the first to make clear corners, right? You just took another idea, made it better, and started marketing it.


Thats because I am not selling anything, just giving my honest opinion. All it took was me surfing the web one day, ending up on their site, and then seeing the SAME pic which was on Do-Luck's catalog, yet it was cut and pasted on THEIR site with the letters VIS written all over it.. as if it was THEIR image.

Jenne, dont bother trying to compare my company with theirs, you are comparing apples and oranges. Its all good, I am not taking what you say personally.. I know there is a difference between selling "clear lights" and then selling something which absolutely NO ONE in the world offers. I am not saying this with an ego, this is the truth. Find one person who sells 96-98 180SX tail lights with rings. There are only 2 PEOPLE in the world with those tail lights, one of them is me.. and well, the other person got them from me as well. :)


Speaking of which, you should have a number to contact the company, I looked and there was only an email and I wanted to talk to someone about tails for my car. Just my humble (but entirely firsthand) opinion.

Blame the unstable automotive market for that. If selling high-end lighting components was so easy and so successful, I would be living life up making millions while spending a fraction of the income on hiring a sales staff and a secratary. Unfortunately, this business is too unstable.. so why bother? I've been there, I've had the phone number and address listed on the website. Too many Civic and Accord owners calling about Skyline tail lights. When I ask them year is their Skyline, they answer "Its going on a 1994 Civic, is it bolt-on?" Its about then when I hang up the phone and make some changes to the web site. People dont understand the words "by appointment only" so, the address was also removed from the website.

You're more than entitled to your opinion, its completely cool with me.

kuruptR
10-22-2003, 10:28 AM
I got a hood from vis, really nice, for the pop ups...

quality is good, but its kinda of a small fit, no warps... just not long enough to fit into the latch short on sides and nose...

nothing i couldnt get around with my dremel.

jenne313
10-22-2003, 10:30 AM
:( Does that mean I can't get 1994 Civic tail lights for my 240? But isn't it a bolt-on?

old_s13
10-22-2003, 10:31 AM
http://www.visracing.com/kn-n24093typD.htm

Steeles
10-22-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by old_s13
http://www.visracing.com/kn-n24093typD.htm

and such a horrible photochop on the front tag that used to say Do-Luck.. :) I may not agree with some of their business practices or their lack of originality but I still like their hood :)

old_s13
10-22-2003, 10:40 AM
WAIT!

I wasnt done. I was adding stuff to that post, but I needed to reboot the PC!

You bastards.

Anyway HERE is the STEALING, you decide what kind of companies you want to support:

Crap:
http://www.clearcorners.com/typed1.jpg

The real product by Do-Luck:
http://www.clearcorners.com/typed2.jpg

How much effort, really.. does it take, to make your OWN product? How much effort, really.. does it take, to take IMAGES of your OWN product?

I mean come on now, fackin COME ON. Dont bullshiet me, just be a real company and quit hiding behind OTHER companies. The mothafacka's even have the nerve to try to COPYRIGHT their own bullshiet. Apparently they got a bit of Microsoft in them.

jenne313
10-22-2003, 10:40 AM
Every single shop in magazines that sells aero parts uses the same pictures. If the VIS kit is a rip-off of the Do-Luck kit, so be it. It's a more inexpensive version of a popular kit. I don't see why its a big deal - if VIS was custom fab-ing all their kits, they'd be pretty damn creative. Since NO ONE makes anything original in this business, and the ones that have the talent and vision generally don't have the capital to mass market their designs.

Just my opinion.

I like my hood; hate if you wish.

*edit* okay, it's pretty ghey to try to copyright the photo, though

blxmjx
10-22-2003, 10:48 AM
initially, I was really apprehensive w/buying a VIS cf hood. I knew of all the knockoff bodykits and other shady stuff they did. I decided to give the hood a try nonetheless. The hood I received was a pleasant surprise. Fitment was decent, weave quality was good and construction was decent also. My buddy is the wholesale manager at a big distributor of accessories over here and I asked him the deal about VIS stuff. He said all the other stuff is basically crap but the hoods are good.

So, in short. I'm still not a big fan of their practices and other products, but the hoods are great.

old_s13
10-22-2003, 10:52 AM
Every single shop in magazines that sells aero parts uses the same pictures. If the VIS kit is a rip-off of the Do-Luck kit, so be it. It's a more inexpensive version of a popular kit. I don't see why its a big deal - if VIS was custom fab-ing all their kits, they'd be pretty damn creative. Since NO ONE makes anything original in this business, and the ones that have the talent and vision generally don't have the capital to mass market their designs.

Just my opinion. I like my hood; hate if you wish.


Good god, what magazines are YOU reading? I dunno.. I really just dont know what to say at this point. I think this is one of the biggest reasons why I stay away from the mainstream part of this automotive industry, its so facking depressing. Are people making SO many knock-off kits, that they are getting high at the same time and forgetting ANY sense of reputation? These fiberglass fumes must really phuck people up.

I simply dont understand it. I was driving the other day and someone stuck his head out of the passenger window of the car next to me and yelled "hey you drift?" -- I was sitting eating the other day and I heard someone say "Yeah I got an R32 bumper for my prelude" -- I read on the 350Z forums and people are putting "lambo doors" on their stupid cars, how are they LAMBORGHINI doors, when they dont open like true scissor-style doors?

Idiots.. IDIOTS.. keep wondering why Mike is so damn negative, and I will kill all of you. Its this stupid scene.. I feel like the bar owner in Shaolin Soccer who smashes bottles on Iron Head's head.

SHIIT! *SMASH*

jenne313
10-22-2003, 11:27 AM
I’ll say this as simply as I can:

This "scene" is bullsiht.

As far as the “scene” goes, I’ve never seen so many people that swear they started something, OR they were the first to do something, OR they’re car is better, OR they do it better than I ever could.

What’s wrong with just saying “hey, that looks good.” Christ! Import tuners are assholes, every last one of them. No one fcuking knows how to give props. It’s always the same shit. Import tuners do nothing but talk shit, all day long.

You mean to tell me that YOU invented top-mount intercoolers for Silvias? Fcuking interesting!

YOU were the first person to have the Bomex Wild-Style Rice Extra-Ordinary Aero (god forbid you say ‘body’) Kit? Wow, that’s amazing.

OHHH, your car is better because you had it for 13 minutes longer than I’ve had mine? FCUKING-A! I should BOW DOWN.

YOU slid into more curbs because you're a HARDCORE DRIFT STAR? Well, you're a dumbass.

I’ll do what I want, and you can save your props, because I’m doing it REALLY WELL, and I AM the first one to have certain mods in my neck of the woods. Fuck being an un-imaginative bastard. I win.

I would rather be in the Muscle Car crowd, because at least they know when to give props. Fcuk.

PS Thank you for relentlessly making me defend my own decision.

Dousan_PG
10-22-2003, 11:33 AM
i think my biggest beef is with BLATANT copies
like 'this is yashio factory wide body'
no, its not, its a copy.

if they can copy stuff, im sure they can make their own

and the VIS 'vented' hood is waste of money. vent is too far forward to serve any purpose other then bling (not sure sounds like u got the normal cf one)

Zemus
10-22-2003, 11:35 AM
Here is my 2 cents, Do-Luck (expensive or not) worked very hard on creating a totaly original Idea, im sure they had their ppl working hard to do it. Many man hours where taken to creat a nice kit such as that. And then VIS comes along and they found a way to copy kits, so they buy a Do luck kit, Copy it and sell it for half the price. Now Do-Luck is loosing money because they cant compeat with the prices that the rip off company is offering. Well I say, Why give someone money for somthing they dident make. I say if you buy their kit for like 600$s, you should send another 600$s to do luck for making the kit.. cuz they diserve the money. Thats my 2 cents

Note: Im not ragging on the guy that bought it, im just saying thats how i feal

blxmjx
10-22-2003, 11:41 AM
hmmm, i thought this thread was about the vis cf hood?

jenne, nice purchase. I got a vis cf hood too, I like it. Looks like you like yours too.:D

btw, I totally agree w/the fact that they suxor for copying other peoples bodykits and such, but I figured that is pretty much off topic for this thread.

jenne313
10-22-2003, 11:55 AM
Thank you.

However, we have gotten horribly off topic, myself included. Blah.

Grant
10-22-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by old_s13
[b]

Jenne, dont bother trying to compare my company with theirs, you are comparing apples and oranges. Its all good, I am not taking what you say personally.. I know there is a difference between selling "clear lights" and then selling something which absolutely NO ONE in the world offers. I am not saying this with an ego, this is the truth. Find one person who sells 96-98 180SX tail lights with rings. There are only 2 PEOPLE in the world with those tail lights, one of them is me.. and well, the other person got them from me as well. :)






dont u mean, 3?
what about the man with the STRONG HAND? thats the 1st time I saw LED tails, on his car. I believe he had rings too..

now WHAT did the esse do with them??/:hammer:

old_s13
10-22-2003, 06:09 PM
Grant> dont u mean, 3?
what about the man with the STRONG HAND? thats the 1st time I saw LED tails, on his car. I believe he had rings too..

No, I mean 2. Omar's do not have LED rings, Grant.


Jenne> I’ll say this as simply as I can: This "scene" is bullsiht. As far as the “scene” goes, I’ve never seen so many people that swear they started something, OR they were the first to do something, OR they’re car is better, OR they do it better than I ever could.

Are you kidding me? You know how many things I have innovated as, as a business owner? What I *havent* done, is sell out. You wont see me giving any of my products trendy names, you wont see me hyping them up as if they are god's gift -- if you want it, buy it.. thats the way I see it. If they dont make it, innovate it.. but for chrissake, dont replicate it.


I’ll do what I want, and you can save your props, because I’m doing it REALLY WELL, and I AM the first one to have certain mods in my neck of the woods. Fuck being an un-imaginative bastard. I win.

I would rather be in the Muscle Car crowd, because at least they know when to give props. Fcuk.

PS Thank you for relentlessly making me defend my own decision.

You know what girl, you keep doing what you do.. whatever makes you happy, because thats all that really matters. You shouldnt let anyone stop you from doing your thing.

PS Thank you for supporting companies that care about originality and prestige.

-m

Kid Zelda
10-22-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Grant
dont u mean, 3?
what about the man with the STRONG HAND? thats the 1st time I saw LED tails, on his car. I believe he had rings too..

now WHAT did the esse do with them??/:hammer:

hahaha,

I have LED cluster, but not the rings, the rings were add-on's after I had gotten my taillights worked on, there is so much detail and fragile work, to put in the rings, not worth it for Mike and me.

They still rock, been in a box for ...(1- 1 1/2 yr) damn... too long !!!!!!!!

old_s13
10-23-2003, 09:41 AM
Thats not true Omar, they were available back then too.