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JasonNagra
10-20-2003, 10:28 PM
Just found these today: http://www.gpsports.co.jp/newGR6.htm

I LOVE how these coilovers have the measurement indications on the body of the shock. Such a simple idea, I have always thought how nice it would be if my coilovers had some sort of marking in terms of measurment. This makes life A LOT easier, because counting threads sucks and I dont like to use my friends $$$ caliper.

Looks like I just found my next set of coilovers...

If you guys know more about these coils that would be great, in terms of spring rates, dampening adjustment, what types of shock design, etc...
DRFT
10-20-2003, 10:29 PM
i believe someone posted these coilovers already...
but yea those are some nice coilovers.
Heartwork
10-20-2003, 10:31 PM
there was minor discussion about this in another thread started by TokyoDrifter.....

the only thing i would be concerned about is the non threaded area that shows the measurements...i can only imagine large chunks of debris, rock, dirt, etc. getting in there and possibly "sieze" the threads....
Dousan_PG
10-20-2003, 10:33 PM
WHO CARES about the tape measure deal. honestly imho, it doesnt mean shit.

because if you REALLY are concerned w/ handling and how your car is balanced, you'll get it corner balanced. tape measure is more for the average joe who wants to lower the car.

corner weight is the key for coilovers i think, mine will get done soon :) cant wait!!
JasonNagra
10-20-2003, 10:50 PM
Considering I dont know anyone with corner weights balance, dont want to spend money on getting the car corner weighted everytime I lower/ raise the car (often), and I dont want to buy my own corner weight balance this is fine for me. I am not a good enough driver to realize the differences of having a car cornerweighted compared to using accurate measurement indictators like the ones on these coilovers. And i think these are MUCH better than my HE's, I'm sure you'd agree?
Dousan_PG
10-20-2003, 10:55 PM
no i dont think so
for drifting HEs are better.
also 9/7 kg
for 200 bucks you can upgrade the HEs to that. how much are new HEs? like 1100 i think..no more then 12
how much are these news?

both are non inverted shocks
both are damper adjustable
both are double height adjustalbe

which has USA revalve support?
which has USA overall support?

cornerweight is not expensive. please jason, you really lower/raise your car THAT MUCH

and it DOESNT matter. once you get corner balanced, you COUNT threads so the 'it will change' arguement doesnt work

its not THAT expensive. and it makes a very noticeable difference. i know quite a few people who had it doen. none regretted it. not 1 bit.

accurated indicators? HAHAHAHAHAHAH
its called a tape measure. ihave one in my car. its just as accurate and its not difficult to use either.



why do you feel they are better then your HEs

you are basing it off a JAPANESE written article by GP Sports
have you tried them? do you know anyone WITH them?

also for those who buy them do you think they are going to talk crap on them? no. of course not. why? because they know about nothing else and cant compare them

just some stuff to think about when buying/considering purchasing coilovers.

if the shoe fits wear it
if the suspension works, use it. HEs do the job.
JasonNagra
10-20-2003, 11:06 PM
I assumed they were an inverted design and I was not even aware of the spring rates. Its not a matter of wether the HE's are good, they're fine. Its just that the HE's will be put on the coupe for daily drive and the new (whatever they may be) coilovers will go on the hatch. I post new things I find so I can get educated about them and make a better decision. Its not like I just buy things because they're the JDM TIGHT factor, thats clear look at my car! Im looking into coilovers because I need them! But I do appreciate the input and I have ruled against them because they're not too different from my HE's. Maybe I will go with the drift spec HKS units...
Dousan_PG
10-20-2003, 11:10 PM
ah cool cool
nah look at the front shock. compare that w/ JIC FLTa2 or kei office xr or apex n1 pro/typev or hks etc etc..

few things to remember w/ coilover:

US Support
specs (springs and if you can valving..hks japan lists those but i dont know enough yet about that stuff)
damper adjustment
height (2x?) adjustment
lower bracket design
product quality
user impression (NOT from that company)
part availability (replacement parts)
part interchangeability (with other brands)

good luck!
JasonNagra
10-20-2003, 11:15 PM
Ive been tryin to find a damn lower bracket for the HE's the slotted REALLY pisses me off. Have you had any luck? I wonder if the GP sports older coilover kit that came with two brackets would work?

No one seems to know.
hondaguy
10-21-2003, 12:47 AM
:drool: either ones you get is still better than stock:rawk:
JasonNagra
10-21-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by hondaguy
:drool: either ones you get is still better than stock:rawk:

Thats the truth:D
proj240sx
10-21-2003, 03:43 PM
ill agree with dousan, HE's do the job. i wouldnt trade them for another kind so far, simply love them!
DudeYourSoOOJDM
10-21-2003, 04:08 PM
A guy I know who raced SCCA cal-club (ITE champion) laughed at the idea of not immediately corner balancing a car w/ coilovers.

He says it is THAT important.

w/ counting threads, my car sits 3/4" lower on driver side than passenger w/ the same # of threads lowered.

I changed the pass. side to compensate for my weight.

Nevertheless, I really need cornerbalancing.
Got Sileighty?
10-21-2003, 08:57 PM
is counter-balancing something that can be done at home?? how much does it cost to get a shop to do it?
ruf
10-21-2003, 09:07 PM
CORNER, not COUNTER.

And please don't ever use adjustable length to "corner weight" your car. Only use preload.
DoriftoSlut
10-21-2003, 09:09 PM
FLT-A2 through Wayne at Phase 2. Good price, good guy, great product (imo) and US support.... Me likes. For best coilover in US imo would be Apex N1 (pro, 2000+, anything but 99 Spec).
SE-Rfornow
10-21-2003, 09:14 PM
This is a long way down the road, but I was wondering about my dream project, a 240sx with one of the mods being tein flex coilovers with the EDFC controller.

With that setup, how would corner balancing work?? If it was corner-balanced on one setting, would it stay if the settings are changed at a constant rate (like both 4 front and back 8 then bringing it down to 2 and 6). I don't know what that would ride like and of course I would have someone who really knows suspension tech help me out with the settings.

Anyone here have flex while I'm asking? Is it so adjustable that you can make it hard (but not too hard of course) for the track and then run on a soft ride on the highway?? And also, could I have it lowered to a level that helps handling and switch back up to stock height?? I kinda want to do some mods that my girlfriend would like too... yeah yeah I know. I read all of the info on them on the tein site, but I was hoping for some real world experience in a 240.

Thanks for any help and I will be
Dousan_PG
10-21-2003, 09:24 PM
if you dont understand what corner balancing is ......


www.GOOGLE.com

will answer all your qs
SE-Rfornow
10-21-2003, 11:47 PM
Thanks, I remembered seeing something on cornerbalancing before, but I didn't know the real technical aspects of it. I know that the coil-overs are adjusted in height to control the weight at each tire, but would adjusting the height with the EDFC affect the corner balance as long as the adjusting is completed at a constant rate? I couldn't find anything on that with google.

And any more input with experience with the flex system??
Got Sileighty?
10-22-2003, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by ruf
CORNER, not COUNTER.

And please don't ever use adjustable length to "corner weight" your car. Only use preload.

oops, my bad. i was at work at the time, and i guess i was thinking about playing counterstrike at that moment.:bash: so how much would corner balancing cost?
ruf
10-22-2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by SE-Rfornow
but would adjusting the height with the EDFC affect the corner balance as long as the adjusting is completed at a constant rate?EDFC adjusts damping, not height. It's not an airbag suspension. Bling.
the240sxer95
10-22-2003, 01:50 AM
corner weight would mean?
ruf
10-22-2003, 03:08 AM
As mentioned before, www.google.com
Dousan_PG
10-22-2003, 08:47 AM
hey ruf, can you do the search for me on google because im too lazy to read.


:rolleyes:
ruf
10-22-2003, 08:52 AM
Yah as soon as I finish setting up my EDFC to 3-wheel thru the hood.
Zemus
10-22-2003, 08:59 AM
For those that are lazy I posted a good site on Corner Balancing

http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Performance/cornerbalance.htm

Dig in Newbs
JasonNagra
10-22-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Hypersh1ft240
A guy I know who raced SCCA cal-club (ITE champion) laughed at the idea of not immediately corner balancing a car w/ coilovers.

He says it is THAT important.

w/ counting threads, my car sits 3/4" lower on driver side than passenger w/ the same # of threads lowered.

I changed the pass. side to compensate for my weight.

Nevertheless, I really need cornerbalancing.

Yea me too. Corner balancing it is.
gilwankel
10-22-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by ruf
Yah as soon as I finish setting up my EDFC to 3-wheel thru the hood.
Quite possibly one of the funniest things i've ever read. Yo my 13" daytons got tha mad tyte low offset, -50 yo!