melting coil packs from a shop

[nujabe]

before all this happend i payed 90 dollars for a inspection to make sure every thing was good to go so nothing would happen and every thing go's smooth.

so i tryed to get my car tuned last night and i tell the shop this ecu currently in my car is a j4 from a 180sx blacktop. i then tell them the power fc i have is for a redtop and four wires need to be pluged in the bridge. i told him last time i pluged this in the power fc i melted the coilpacks because of the wiring. the mechcanic looks at me and says oh you dident bring a pinout.... wtf your a shop dealing with cars and you have your brother sr20det 240z behind me. any ways i explain to the guy they are different and ill go get a pinout off the shops computer. i find one here on zilvia and he looks at it for a good 15 minutes then says oh these four wires are useless from what he see's... he then says ok roll it on to the dyno. my car turns on for 2 seconds and sounds like shit. they turn it off they try it agin.. after the 3rd attempt i see smoke coming out of my hood and gess whats melting like i told them... my 400 dollars splitfire coilpacks. he then looks at my harness and says oh this is a j4 harness...mind you i paid 90 dollars for them to inspect the harness before we did any dynoing. then says oh i can put in s13 redtop harness for you for 450 dollars wtffff!!!

so now my car is there because i could not tow it. used them all on my mom .... and all the parts i added and the z32 maf wont allow my car to run with the orginal mines ecu. my question is do you think they owe my coilpacks ? sorry if about my grammar guys.

[sr20sean]

they should atleast get you new coil packs if not just sue them?

[nujabe]

i have the spares from the last melt down. but i had to pay 400 for a whole new set for my f up. i think your right. The main mechanic is really a douche bag. most of them there are douchy

[daryl337]

Wait. Wat?

So... you knew you had a J4 ecu. You told him you had a J4 ecu. He asked you for a pin out, and you found one... and he handled it? Or no?


I think you may wanna go into a little more detail about what was being done... or do you know?

[nujabe]

Wait. Wat?

So... you knew you had a J4 ecu. You told him you had a J4 ecu. He asked you for a pin out, and you found one... and he handled it? Or no?


I think you may wanna go into a little more detail about what was being done... or do you know?


yes i knew it was a j4 and he asked for a pinout i found him one. he looked at it then said your wiring is fine. he did not go to the pinout agin till my coilpacks where melted on the dyno.

[nujabe]

i wanted the power fc wired in to the car. i know that j4 and n62 are very simular. but i wanted it in right. because the month before i was really excited when i got it pluged it in and it melted my coil packs. i then told him the story. he then looks at the pin out and says oh well these four wires dont do any thing roll it on the dyno. i did not know the harness was a j4 harness. we did not find out till the coilpacks where done.

[Hashiriya415]

If any employee of the shop caused any damage to the car, then the shop is responsible to pay the damage. You have brought a working car and told them to do something for you and they screwed up. They just plugged in the ECU because it plugs in. Even if you printed out a wrong diagram it's their fault because they needed to have their own info and not trust outside wiring info. They have nothing here to blame you, unless you plugged in the ECU yourself while you were there, then they might have something against you.

[nujabe]

nope did not plug it in my self !

[Hashiriya415]

I bet they wanna spend 5 mins repining your harness and buy another set of coil packs with that $450 and make it sound like it was just the wiring.

[Hashiriya415]

Is there any kind of writing? Basically a shop needs you to sign a paper so they can work on your car. If you didn't sign anything, then you can tell the manager of that shop that your filing a lawsuit if the damages are not paid out by the shop.

[nujabe]

i did sign =( to do the wiring of the car.. but im on my way to get the car back and tell them they need to replace the coilpacks.

[daryl337]

Well, there is an issue. If the shop had expressed up front in any way that they were unfamiliar with the item you were wanting them to wire in, and made it clear that they were relying on you to provide the diagram, they could actually make a case in a court of law.

Not every shop is going to be able to look at a wiring harness from the outside and say " if they are being told incorrect information from a customer who is providing aftermarket parts.


I'm not sure what the nature of the shop is, so its really hard to say.


If it was a clear negligence on their part, then yes, they should take care of it. But if you had fed them the info, and they followed the directions you had provided... you may be screwed in this deal.





-edit- yknow, from re-reading the posts all over again, it sounds like they simply just ignored the fact that the j4 pinout did not match the pinout for the power FC.

Yeah, that could definately be negligence on their part... especially if you *told* them you had that ECU.

[nujabe]

i olny sign because of the 90 dollars and i had no tow.

[daryl337]

read that signature acknowledgement.

Shops always require a signature when giving an estimate for legal reasons, but it may not include a clause about them not being liable for damages. Check it!

[nujabe]

i gave them the information that i new the ecu was a j4 and my power fc is a n62. he never told me to bring in any type of diagram. until i got there. i told them last time i pluged the thing in it melted my coilpacks. the guy looks at the diagram i prited out wich was right and says oh those four wires are not even needed from what i see roll it on the dyno wire in the power fc. after they did that coil packs melted and where ruined. then he looks at my harness agin then looks at the s13 sr harness i braught with me that i tryed showing him what four wires needed to be in. he said i dont need that. he olny looked at the diagram and harness after they fucked up mhy coilpacks. then they said oh you need this harness i have in my hands. wtf j4 and s13sr retop harness are nearly the same just a few wires why could they not listen to me?

[GarageMakS145]

If you just had a proper Power FC for a black top this wouldn't have happened now would it?

[nujabe]

If you just had a proper Power FC for a black top this wouldn't have happened now would it?

probably not but thats not the point. thanks for your input though bro...

it all go solved thanks every one for giving me a heads up.

[Darth & Vader]

You thought everyone was douchey but you still took it there?
So, what was the outcome? Did they buy you new coil packs?

[nujabe]

i realized it was bad by the time i was putting my own stuff in the car... in the end i got pwned because i sign the dyno release paper letting them ruin my shit... and when i went there today they already started the harness. so you live and you learn. im going to find a nice shop in socal and go there no one here knows wtf there doing to 240s...

close it !!!

[godrifttoday]

What shop was this so we can know

[nujabe]

its called tech3 its in nor-cal bay area. i would advise you stay far away from this place if you own a 240. or any thing in general.

[!Zar!]

Doesn't T3 specialize in hachi's more so than S-chassis?

[nujabe]

miatas ...... they claim to know about the sr.. bunch of shit.

[drftwerks]

probably not but thats not the point.

that is a point.

if i was the shop, i would not have touched some hacked together ass shit.

and i would say im not responsible for anything wrong when it does not work, they should have told you get the right pfc.