View Full Version : Silvia Kouki aero stuff, why so rare?
TurDz
10-19-2003, 03:03 AM
These are factory parts correct (front bumper, aero lip, aero valences, silvia rear)? Did Nissan of Japan stop manufaturing these parts after they disconintued the S14s?
Why can't someone in Japan simply order the part from their local Nissan dealer as we would here for the US/Euro front Kouki lip?
I'm just not sure on what parts are available to order from the dealers in Japan. Does the Silvia Kouki bumper fall in this category too?
I'm pretty curious because a friend is there for an internship until December, and if he can order some parts for me from Nissan those would be my first mods since this is a rare opportunity.
NiteKids
10-19-2003, 03:13 AM
Why oem? It's boring and looks like the car stock from Japan! Whoopdee doo.
You might as well get something more orignal, better looking and aftermarket.
TokyoDrifterXo7
10-19-2003, 03:42 PM
its called SEARCH. na im just fuk'n man
check out http://www.jspec.com/bodymods.html :D
Heartwork
10-19-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by NiteKids
Why oem? It's boring and looks like the car stock from Japan! Whoopdee doo.
You might as well get something more orignal, better looking and aftermarket.
cause some people prefer the clean lines of OEM and no gawdy body kits, clean or whatever....
TokyoDrifterXo7
10-19-2003, 03:55 PM
its all about the JDM look :bow: clean and simple kouki fO shO
TurDz
10-19-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
its called SEARCH. na im just fuk'n man
check out http://www.jspec.com/bodymods.html :D
Sorry, but it doesn't really answer my question. My basic concern is why people in Japan can't simply just order these OEM body parts directly from Nissan. Shouldn't they continue to produce these parts for people who get into minor bumper accidents, etc? (just as they do here in the US)
Or has production of these parts TOTALLY stopped? I've never heard of that case before though.
TurDz
10-19-2003, 04:03 PM
btw, I like clean:
(I post this pic a lot)
http://store3.yimg.com/I/jspec_1761_17050167
s14falcon
10-19-2003, 04:06 PM
cause some people prefer the clean lines of OEM and no gawdy body kits, clean or whatever....
Oh I know, these body kits are so gaudy and the lines aren't clean at all.
http://www.autoimaging.com/vertex/s14k_lg.jpg
http://www.autoimaging.com/ings/s14k_v1_lg.jpg
s14falcon
10-19-2003, 04:10 PM
Sorry, but it doesn't really answer my question. My basic concern is why people in Japan can't simply just order these OEM body parts directly from Nissan. Shouldn't they continue to produce these parts for people who get into minor bumper accidents, etc? (just as they do here in the US)
Oops, you musta posted that as i was typing. Sorry then, guess I can't really answer your question. Bust I would still rather have either of those kits over oem.
Heartwork
10-19-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by s14falcon
Oh I know, these body kits are so gaudy and the lines aren't clean at all.
http://www.autoimaging.com/vertex/s14k_lg.jpg
http://www.autoimaging.com/ings/s14k_v1_lg.jpg
S14Falcon- i like the Vertex Kits myself, not saying its gawdy, but im just saying, some people prefer the OEM Aero stuff over the aftermarket stuff regardless if its gawdy, bulky, ugly, clean, nice, etc....
OptionZero
10-19-2003, 05:16 PM
Dude, if people like the OEM look, then they like the OEM look. Whats the big deal? Its gonna be urethane, while many aftermarket kits are fiberglass. OEM has near perfect fitment. For some, that matters. If you want a Vertex kit, more power too you. Looks awesome, is awesome. Full kouki aero conversion? Sweetness also.
If u're only getting it because its rare, then that defeats the purpose doesn't it? Shouldn't you get stuff you LIKE?
I LIKE the look of the s14 kouki bumper. It doesn't quite stick out as far as the vertex kit, a little bit more front over hang (slight, very slight), its urethane, it flows with my stock skirts and body. Yippie!
FYI, that last one is the greddy lip isn't it? being a lip, u'd need to buy a kouki bumper to fit it on your car...
TurDz
10-19-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Heartwork
S14Falcon- i like the Vertex Kits myself, not saying its gawdy, but im just saying, some people prefer the OEM Aero stuff over the aftermarket stuff regardless if its gawdy, bulky, ugly, clean, nice, etc....
That's right. I like the clean Aero stuff. Simply put, I consider clean to be the perfect amount of lines, curves, etc.
I think those aftermarket kits are a little too thick. The valences and skirts go too low in my opinion. So I guess I'm saying, yes, I do like the OEM look.
Anyway, I think we're getting a bit off topic. Responses to the original question would be appreciated. thanks for all the feedback so far.
DoriftoSlut
10-19-2003, 05:23 PM
Assuming theya re still available from Nissan Japan, they will be so much money and then a lot of money to ship that most people would never consider spending the necessary loot to get it. I dont think people understand just how expensive OEM things are. They are INSANELY over priced.
TokyoDrifterXo7
10-19-2003, 05:34 PM
^^^ werd, never buy from the dealer. Kouki is only rare to acquire in the US cus it's JDM, as for almost all JDM parts are hard to get in the US. anyways
95-96 240SX referred to as S14 zenki
97-98 240SX referred to as S14 kouki
i dono if you knew that, but they are factory parts. other places to look would be like e bay or just talk to j-spec. ;)
Heartwork
10-19-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
I dont think people understand just how expensive OEM things are. They are INSANELY over priced.
expensive new, yes....
less than perfect oem aero kits at the junkyard and abundant, CHEAP ;)
got me a few things coming in from another friend in Japan :D
DoriftoSlut
10-19-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Heartwork
expensive new, yes....
less than perfect oem aero kits at the junkyard and abundant, CHEAP ;)
got me a few things coming in from another friend in Japan :D
Ummm. Look at the original post. He wants to order the stuff from the Nissan Dealer. Cheap? Get used. (Duh.)
SimpleS14
10-19-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by TurDz
These are factory parts correct (front bumper, aero lip, aero valences, silvia rear)? Did Nissan of Japan stop manufaturing these parts after they disconintued the S14s?
Those are all factory parts and they did not stop making them...well they did not stop providing them.
Originally posted by TurDz
Why can't someone in Japan simply order the part from their local Nissan dealer as we would here for the US/Euro front Kouki lip?
They can...but I don't know how its done over there.
Originally posted by TurDz
I'm just not sure on what parts are available to order from the dealers in Japan. Does the Silvia Kouki bumper fall in this category too?
I believe all the parts are available to order from Nissan Japan. However they will NOT come cheap.
Originally posted by TurDz
I'm pretty curious because a friend is there for an internship until December, and if he can order some parts for me from Nissan those would be my first mods since this is a rare opportunity.
If you have the money and he is willing to ship.....I WANT IN!!!! :D
Originally posted by OptionZero
FYI, that last one is the greddy lip isn't it? being a lip, u'd need to buy a kouki bumper to fit it on your car...
The silver car has the AERO lip (OEM part) with Zenki sides and Kouki AERO rear valence.
Originally posted by Heartwork
expensive new, yes....
less than perfect oem aero kits at the junkyard and abundant, CHEAP ;)
got me a few things coming in from another friend in Japan :D
can he get me something from a junkyard? :D
<-- wants a damn front bumper
TurDz
10-19-2003, 07:14 PM
Okay, it's pretty much cleared up for me, thanks for all of your help everyone.
Hmm, I wonder if I can find out how much the OEM Aero front spoiler is brand new. If it's near the range of the USDM/Euro spoiler ($250-$300) and a few hundred bux for shipping, I'll definately get it, and then get a used Kouki bumper.
My main goal right now is to get a Kouki bumper and Zenki sides. :)
SimpleS14
10-19-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by TurDz
Hmm, I wonder if I can find out how much the OEM Aero front spoiler is brand new. If it's near the range of the USDM/Euro spoiler ($250-$300) and a few hundred bux for shipping, I'll definately get it, and then get a used Kouki bumper.
I think its going to be close to $500, since this front lip covers th lower portion of the front bumper....meaning it has alot more work and content put into it. But that is just my opinion since the front bumper is $700 brand new.
OptionZero
10-19-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by 95KoukiS14
The silver car has the AERO lip (OEM part) with Zenki sides and Kouki AERO rear valence.
can he get me something from a junkyard? :D
<-- wants a damn front bumper
Dude, i believe you are referring to the wrong car.
I meant this picture:
http://www.autoimaging.com/ings/s14k_v1_lg.jpg
Is actually an Ings lip on a kouki S14 bumper. So u'd need to pay for a lip and a bumper, neither of which is cheap.
Sorry, my originall post said Greddy, but i was so blind i didn't see the fat Ings stickers everywhere!
Dousan_PG
10-19-2003, 08:13 PM
as long as its not discontinued, any dealer in japan can get it (you'll need an importer--jspec for example to order it for you).
but you'll have to pay japan retail + 5% tax + 3%import tax + agent fee + shipping from dealer to warehouse + shipping from warehouse to dock + shipping from japan + markup
so a 700 new oem bumper will cost near 900 by the time you pay for it
also that is NO lights..which is another amount on top of that!
its also FREIGHT only because UPS [usually--shouldnt but depends on driver] wont ship something so large (like a bumper)
as for junkyards, most of the stuff is pretty beat up but you can find a jewel but it takes time because it still is popular over there too.
if someone is willing to find it (takes time), buy it, pack it ship it and doing it for free (let's say a good friend) then you really owe them a nice favor!! its very time consuming and $$ at times
businesses dont work for free!
good luck!
TurDz
10-20-2003, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
as long as its not discontinued, any dealer in japan can get it (you'll need an importer--jspec for example to order it for you).
but you'll have to pay japan retail + 5% tax + 3%import tax + agent fee + shipping from dealer to warehouse + shipping from warehouse to dock + shipping from japan + markup
so a 700 new oem bumper will cost near 900 by the time you pay for it
also that is NO lights..which is another amount on top of that!
its also FREIGHT only because UPS [usually--shouldnt but depends on driver] wont ship something so large (like a bumper)
as for junkyards, most of the stuff is pretty beat up but you can find a jewel but it takes time because it still is popular over there too.
if someone is willing to find it (takes time), buy it, pack it ship it and doing it for free (let's say a good friend) then you really owe them a nice favor!! its very time consuming and $$ at times
businesses dont work for free!
good luck!
thanks for your help. I think with the # of posts from you, plus the amount of times I've seen your name mentioned in various threads (using the search function of course!) you're a reliable source of information.
If I was the one in Japan (instead of my friend) I would be buying tons of JDM stuff!! I might actually have the opportunity to go visit the guy I know in Japan because his bro is a really good friend of mine and I'm deciding whether I should go this winter break. Should I?? ;)
Dousan_PG
10-20-2003, 01:24 AM
whatever u want man
btw, that info was from a little bird on my shoulder ;)
SimpleS14
10-20-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by TurDz
Should I?? ;)
yes you should........and hook me up!....please :)
DoriftoSlut
10-20-2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by OptionZero
Dude, i believe you are referring to the wrong car.
I meant this picture:
http://www.autoimaging.com/ings/s14k_v1_lg.jpg
Is actually an Ings lip on a kouki S14 bumper. So u'd need to pay for a lip and a bumper, neither of which is cheap.
Sorry, my originall post said Greddy, but i was so blind i didn't see the fat Ings stickers everywhere!
Dude, I believe you are referring to something that doesn't exist. That car has an INGS+ front BUMPER. Not a lip. That thing is all one piece.
Turd, if all you are looking for is kouki bumper and zenki sides (and either rear) JSpec.com REGULARLY carries those items. Used of course, but very good price. The sell quickly though, so wait till the begining of the next shipment. You will save a ton of $$$ going that route.
tsunami0ne
10-20-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Heartwork
expensive new, yes....
less than perfect oem aero kits at the junkyard and abundant, CHEAP ;)
got me a few things coming in from another friend in Japan :D
and you didn't tell me? do u respect me as your sempai?
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