Lsd

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

Whats the difference between a 1 way, 1.5 way, & 2 way LSD? What are they good for? Are they set up a certain way? I know what a LSD does but am not sure what the difference is? can anybody explain? :bow:

[RBS14]

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And don't say you didn't find any information in a search. That'd be straight up :bs:

So you're a drift king who doesn't know the difference between a 1.5 and 2 way LSD?

I'm a pro Golfer but i'm still not quite sure the difference between my putter and driver. I'll get it figured out......all in due time.

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

it was a simple ? and all it needed was a simple answer. Obviously you dont know the difference of a LSD. Who ever said i was the drift king? My sig says drift kingz, as in plural. so i can be talking about anybody. :p you guys are so damn witty and quick to say, SEARCH that it makes me beleive you dont know nothing about it either. :rolleyes:

[Dousan_PG]

i know cuz i posted it a bunch of times

SEARCH FOOL

[nocomedown]

Originally posted by RBS14
I'm a pro Golfer but i'm still not quite sure the difference between my putter and driver. I'll get it figured out......all in due time.
:rofl: i just like driving the golf carts

and cmon man, how hard is it to do a little search? that's what i did when i was curious. and why would you even ask us if we "are so damn witty and quick to say, SEARCH that it makes me beleive you dont know nothing about it either"? obviously many people on this board do know what an LSD is because many people actually have one.

heres a nice little link for you www.google.com -- it'll tell you whatever you want to know

[RBS14]

a simple answer? a full answer would be a couple pages long. wait, what am i talking about, you said i don't know anything about LSD's so i must not.

Now im confused.......how did that Kaaz 2 way get in my car?

Here's some quick cliffnotes for your ignorant self:

1 way, engages when on the gas
1.5 way, engages when on the gas and partially when off the gas
2 way, always engaged

what are they good for?
-improving traction

Are they set up a certain way?
-what the hell does this mean?

There are also mechanical LSD's that are better than all the above for road racing/gripping.

[JerkFaceJason]

Originally posted by nocomedown
:rofl: i just like driving the golf carts



heres a nice little link for you www.google.com -- it'll tell you whatever you want to know



NOOOOO!!!! does anyone know how to get rid of the QHost virus? it blocks google!!!

[AmherstSR20DET]

It appears that "searching" is as hard a task as using a turn indicator for some people. And I thought that it would have been easier for the newbies to using the search function, considering that it's RED!!!

Ah well, common sense ain't some common.

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

i knew if i was a dick id get results. Anyways, i thought a LSD is when one tire looses traction it sends the power to that tire. Am i right? thanks :D

[brianglawson]

Originally posted by dousan36
i know cuz i posted it a bunch of times

SEARCH FOOL

now that is one thing not to mess with dousan on man, you will be owned....

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

dousan OWNZ me :p

[RBS14]

Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
dousan OWNZ me :p

i hear his balls are sweaty..while you are swinging from them why not take a nice damp cloth and do him a favor...:rolleyes:

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by RBS14
a simple answer? a full answer would be a couple pages long. wait, what am i talking about, you said i don't know anything about LSD's so i must not.

Now im confused.......how did that Kaaz 2 way get in my car?

Here's some quick cliffnotes for your ignorant self:

1 way, engages when on the gas
1.5 way, engages when on the gas and partially when off the gas
2 way, always engaged

what are they good for?
-improving traction

Are they set up a certain way?
-what the hell does this mean?

There are also mechanical LSD's that are better than all the above for road racing/gripping.
Scott, not to be an ass, but just to clarify some things here...

There are various types of LSDs. For our cars, there are Viscous, which uses a fluid filled sac taht expands with heat (Fritction) to lock the output shafts, and then there are mechanical. Mechanical means that the LSD in engaged or not due to interaction between 2 (or more) set, mechanical parts. This category inclused CLUTCH and HELICAL type LSDs.

For road racing, Helical type is more desirable, because it acts like an open diff while turning in and such. If I am not mistaken, it does not lock the two output shafts to spin at the same rate, but rather it biases torque to the wheel with more grip up to 80%. Shit, you know what, its been a while. If I weren't on a slow ass computer running Windows 95 i would search google for QUAIFFE or HELICAL LSDs and dig up some diagrams and a more in depth explanation.

Ok, other type of Mechanical LSD, clutch type. Clutch type LSDs use a center cam that moves under torque changes within a casing. The casing is 2 parts (L and R) and is symetrical in that sense. However, the cuts in the casing making the notches for the cam to slide in are not. That determines 1, 1.5, or 2 way LSD. As the cam slids in the notch it pushes the casing outward, which engages a series of clutch discs, some attached to the cashing, some to the output shafts. When engaged, both output shafts will rotate at the speed of the casing, making both axles, and subsequently, wheels, rotate at the same speed.

Now back to the notches:

A 1 way notch is cut like an upside down triangle. While the cam can push backward against the tapered edges, expanding the casing, it cannot push forward against the flat surface. Therefore under acceleration torque (cam rotating backwards) it will lock, and under deceleration torque, when the cam is forced to rotate forward due to forces from braking, engine braking, etc.. it will just contact a flat "wall" and the casing will not expand.

A 1.5 way notch is like an upside down triangle with a half trangle on top of it. During acceleration it will expand the casing at one rate, and during deceleration, it will still expand the casing, but due ot the cuts' higher angles, it will require more force to move the casing apart. Therefore, only during Very hard braking will it have enough force pushing it forward to expand the casing.

Need it be said that a 2 way then is shaped just about like a diamond? Where it requires almost the same amount of acceleration or deceleration to force the casing apart. Usually, the top cuts are slightly more dramatic, making the 2 way still require slighlty more deceleration force to push the cam to expand the casing.

Ok, there is more. The more the casing expands, the more clutches contact each other, and the more the output shafts get locked into the same rotation. Now there are adjustable diffs where you can set a breakaway torque. That means that the cluch discs get moved closer together or further apart to dictate the SOFT, MED, or HARD setting. The closer the clucth plates are to each other, the sooner the output shafts, and thus the wheels, will spin in sync.



Is THAT a detailed enough explanation Drift KING?

*edited the word faster to sooner. I didnt want any miscommunication. I didnt edit any gramatical or spelling errors though cause i didnt want to reread the whole thing and find them. Yes, i know they are there. Deal with it.

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx Is THAT a detailed enough explanation Drift KING? [/B]

hehe your good. thanks man.:bowdown: Dorifto180sx now OWNZ me :D

[DoriftoSlut]

Hey my nutz arent sweaty yet, but when they are, i'll let you know, cause i prefer a certain soft terri towelette.

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

il make sure to keep them nice and dry for yA dude. :drool:
i should put *Owned by Dorifto180sx* in my sig now ;) :D

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
il make sure to keep them nice and dry for yA dude. :drool:
i should put *Owned by Dorifto180sx* in my sig now ;) :D
Haha. watch out, Dousan's going to get jealous if you keep hitting on me.:p

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

there's plenty of Tokyo 2 go around:boink:

[Dousan_PG]

actually i could go for a nice nutsack mop up. my are all wet cuz i just been working on the car changing bumpers. yeah a nice towelette patting on my nuts would be real comfy. thanks

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

right on it sir *whipes dousans nuts* :bow:

[nocomedown]

Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
right on it sir *whipes dousans nuts* :bow:
you're fucked up:ghey:

[RBS14]

Lindsey.......thanks for the corrections. And the in-depth explination, i knew there were cams in aftermarket clutch style diffs but didn't know how they worked. The Kaaz owner's manual shows a diagram but doesn't explain it.

On another note......how does it feel to share a nutswinger with Aaron? hope there's no jealousy. haha

[mrmephistopheles]

i hate to lock this one down just for the bare fact that Lindsay posted some NICE info... however, there's too much BS and name-calling going on.
Lindsay, if you see this, could you copy & paste what you just typed up and post it in Tech Talk. I'll make sure it ends up in FAQ.