View Full Version : S13 Owners get your carbon everything! CF underwear CF Shirts
NiteKids
10-19-2003, 01:31 AM
All this CF stuff is getting out of hand!!!!!! :axe:
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/240sx_89_94/240sx_89_b_cwings_carbon_cw_s13_ss_03.jpg
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/s15_99_up/silvia_99_b_cwings_silver_s15_fb_03.jpg
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/240sx_89_94/240sx_89_f_cwings_Carbon_broad_1_rf_04.jpg
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/s13_89_94/silvia_89_h_cwings_carbon_oem_02.jpg
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/s13_89_94/silvia_89_h_cwings_carbon_oem_04.jpg
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/240sx_89_94/240sx_89_b_cwings_carbon_typex_fb_01.jpg
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/240sx_89_94/240sx_89_l_cwings_carbon_broad_1_01.jpg
Burmonster
10-19-2003, 01:33 AM
That is pretty excessive.
240Degrees
10-19-2003, 02:09 AM
ew yuck especially the rear widebody flare thingies. TAAAACK-IEE and serves no purpose..being carbonfiber and all.
240silvia
10-19-2003, 02:30 AM
I agree, definately overkill.
RBS14
10-19-2003, 03:19 AM
What i love the most about most the stuff in those pics is that most of it has just been covered in carbon. :goyou:
WEAKSAUCE!!!
so where's the pics of the carbon underwear?
NiteKids
10-19-2003, 03:25 AM
Those peices are acually full CF not just fiberglass w/ cf overlay
dam their stealing everything from C-West!!! thats too much carbon fiber. man soemone gotta teach these guys a lesson. well the only thing i like is the headlight housings.
RBS14
10-19-2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by NiteKids
Those peices are acually full CF not just fiberglass w/ cf overlay
Look at the pic of the bumper that isn't on the car again...... that's not overlay?
They are "double layer". Carbon overlay on top and bottom. Fiberglass core. Looks like they are "carrying" Yashio Factory now, too. Honestly, I give up. This market is retarded. I'm finishing my car and calling it quits.
RBS14
10-19-2003, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by ruf
They are "double layer". Carbon overlay on top and bottom. Fiberglass core.
Haha, what a fcuking joke. so they're basically adding unnecessicary weight to everything they see fit. Retards. But im sure its strictly for strength purposes. haha
It took you this long to find out that 9 million % of the "car enthusiasts" out there are just nut swinging, trend following idiots? I'm sure you realized it but just refused to admit it to yourself. haha
"There has to be hope!!!!! I know there is......somewhere!"
lol
Maeda
10-19-2003, 04:43 AM
heh...
enzo ferrari style? They should atleast paint all that c/f like the enzo....
why does that have to happen to a two tone!!!!!esp.that color!!!its my fav.:(
brianglawson
10-19-2003, 05:19 AM
i wish someone would just make plain fiberglass s13 silvia fenders and hoods, that way it would be hella cheaper and hella easier to td the conversion...
old_s13
10-19-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by NiteKids
Those peices are acually full CF not just fiberglass w/ cf overlay
Originally posted by ruf
They are "double layer". Carbon overlay on top and bottom. Fiberglass core. Looks like they are "carrying" Yashio Factory now, too. Honestly, I give up. This market is retarded. I'm finishing my car and calling it quits.
Sorry NiteKids, there is no way that REAL CF is being sold for that shit, especially by "import fan" -- import fan is facking ghey..
I agree with ruf, this scene is becomming sickening.. this is why all I like to do nowadays is talk shit and focus on finishing my own car, and not dealing with any of this newschool tomfoolery.
Facking Carbon FiberGLASS, its gonna be so tacky.. kinda like plaid went out in the 60's. I dont understand why people do that, just PAINT it.. is it that much work? Obviously, the answer is yes.. people are so lazy they think the unfinished CF appearance is cool. Thank god for companies like Ferrari, painting the F50 and Enzo, even though they are all CF (NOT fiberglass). Import Fan can suck my nuts.
ckyfish
10-19-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by NiteKids
All this CF stuff is getting out of hand!!!!!! :axe:
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/240sx_89_94/240sx_89_b_cwings_carbon_cw_s13_ss_03.jpg
see how the hood isnt flush, i know that you can do that so that underhood temps stay down. does anyone have any information on how this can be done?
method2833
10-19-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by ckyfish
see how the hood isnt flush, i know that you can do that so that underhood temps stay down. does anyone have any information on how this can be done?
yea washers and longer studs but it doesnt do ish for lowering temps but hey go for it bud:D
RBS14
10-19-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by brianglawson
i wish someone would just make plain fiberglass s13 silvia fenders and hoods, that way it would be hella cheaper and hella easier to td the conversion...
Are you kidding?
There are TONS of companies that make fiberglass fenders and hoods for silvias. :p
hondaguy
10-19-2003, 01:19 PM
ill take 2 orders of conbon fiber under wear and 1 pair of socks please:p
ckyfish
10-19-2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by method2833
yea washers and longer studs but it doesnt do ish for lowering temps but hey go for it bud:D
wouldent the gases escape up and over your winshield, it has to help a little bit right? not that im just making that kind of power its just good to know.:D
nocomedown
10-19-2003, 01:40 PM
i want some CF shoes. now that'd be sweet
AmherstSR20DET
10-19-2003, 02:27 PM
http://www.importfan.com/images/products/catalog/240sx_89_94/240sx_89_b_cwings_carbon_typex_fb_01.jpg
Is it me, or does it look like that under spoiler is a "little" too big for the front bumper.
And yea, CF is getting rather ghey, especially when I see bone stock J-bodies with CF hoods and trunks.:barf:
Originally posted by nocomedown
i want some CF shoes. now that'd be sweet I'm working on it. But for women only. Get some Nike woven shoes. Kinda cool weave thing. I have some Puma Mostro's that have a weave pattern. Great driving shoes.
Got Sileighty?
10-19-2003, 02:31 PM
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http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/events/iaa2003/2003_lamborghini_murcielago_gt_r-1.jpg
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:eek: :eek: :eek:
too much carbon fiber?? i dont think so....
Originally posted by ruf
I'm working on it. But for women only. Get some Nike woven shoes. Kinda cool weave thing. I have some Puma Mostro's that have a weave pattern. Great driving shoes.
too late.
http://www.basket-ball.com/IMG/arton140.jpg
DoriftoSlut
10-19-2003, 03:47 PM
The front lip is a copy of the CWest 180sx lip (for kouki bumper).
The hood ide wont work without a vented hood or a Koguchi Power (or similar) deflector back there. WHy? That is a high pressure area for air flow. The air wants to follow the path of the hood, then it runs into the windshield, compresses on itself, and is FORCED over the windshield by the air behind it. Propping up the hood liek that may look cool, but it creates an opening allowing the air to wrap under the hood and stir around trapped in there doing nothing. If you had a hood vent, you could vent the air, and it would rejoin the stream coming over the hood again. With the deflector at the trailing edge of the roof, the angle at which the air flow hits the windshield is decreased, so that it does not build as high of a pressure, and less air goes into the engine bay the wrong way.
brianglawson
10-19-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by RBS14
Are you kidding?
There are TONS of companies that make fiberglass fenders and hoods for silvias. :p
not plain oem replacement items, that would be cheaper than buying used sheetmetal from japan, i ment like a conversion using aftermarket bumper and the only real silvia part being the headlights the hood and fenders would be like oem replacement:)
brianglawson
10-19-2003, 03:52 PM
mostros are running shoes....i have some bright orange mostro meshes:D they are the most comfortable things in the world though
direb0y
10-19-2003, 04:03 PM
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Crab Walker
10-19-2003, 05:41 PM
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nocomedown
10-19-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Got Sileighty?
:eek: :eek: :eek:
too much carbon fiber?? i dont think so....
yea, but thers a great difference between lambo and nissan. anyways, that'd look so much better painted.
toreno
10-19-2003, 06:14 PM
what about this
http://www.procarparts.com/productimages/HND-9600CV3D-CF.jpg
Got Sileighty?
10-19-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by nocomedown
yea, but thers a great difference between lambo and nissan. anyways, that'd look so much better painted.
there are only 2 differences i see:
1) their place of origin
2) one is way way way way overpriced ;)
808Supra
10-19-2003, 11:17 PM
you know whats funny... all that stuff costs them about $50 to make. we copied kouki sideskirts, hoods, rear vlances and dashes for about $50 each...and its honestly not really hard. It just takes a bit of know how and time.
hey thats eddie farcons bmw. that thing is nice. a little OT but its daily driven too:)
old_s13
10-19-2003, 11:49 PM
carbon fiber is great...
when its REAL CARBON FIBER.
Some of you idiots need to understand the difference.
Its OKAY to leave REAL carbon fiber unpainted, that is.. if you are a showoff and like showing that you paid big bucks to have something molded in a vacuum chamber :)
Those of you who want to be discrete, should paint their true CF.
But the rest of you facking idiots, who like carbon fiberGLASS hoods and leave them unpainted -- i think, you guys are idiots. Why? Because you're basically buying a fiberglass hood with a CF vaneer. Thats like buying a wooden cabinet made out of particle board with rose-wood vaneer -- absolute CRAP.
idiots..
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one day, this forum will make me slice my wrists.. that way I'll never have to see this shit anymore
FRpilot
10-20-2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by old_s13
one day, this forum will make me slice my wrists.. that way I'll never have to see this shit anymore
dont do it!! its not worth it. slit your wrist b/c of newbies and ricers on forums? you have a long life ahead of you.. besides. i need to get some light housings done by you before you go.. lol.
toreno
10-20-2003, 12:19 AM
do it I dare ya j/k
andrave
10-20-2003, 08:36 AM
raw CF alone usually costs more than 50 dollars for those parts. Even though CF parts are drastically overpriced, raw CF is a much more expensive material to work with than fiberglass.
Zemus
10-20-2003, 09:59 AM
Import fan makes me sick :( ... So do ricers on this forum, we need to make a section of the forum for vetrain members to talk about the old days of clean 240s, and about back when ppl thought our cars where probes... We need to get back to our roots ppl.. Lets go burn down Import Fan!!!
Stee Flo
10-20-2003, 12:42 PM
Any one want alittle *bling* for the bathroom?:D
http://www.headhunterinc.com/images/Toilets/Carbon%20Fiber.jpg
andrave
10-20-2003, 12:54 PM
why can't people just appreciate that different people have different tastes?
race cars use CF all over the place. Usually, what is popular on the street imitates what is successful in racing to some extent (ie aluminum wings, 18" light weight rims, and lightweight body work like carbon fiber).
I mean if anyone saw the sti in this month's super street, youre crazy if you think its anything but badass.
So people see that, think its cool, and want a little taste of that for their street car.
If you don't like it, well.. maybe they don't like your car either. But the point is that you can't abandon everything just because you disagree with some or everyone.
Even if someone is just using carbon fiber as a veneer, its the same as covering your sheet metal in paint. Why do you do that? cause you think it looks better than raw sheet metal. why do they use CF as their finish layer? they think it looks good too.
Originally posted by andrave
Even if someone is just using carbon fiber as a veneer, its the same as covering your sheet metal in paint. Why do you do that? cause you think it looks better than raw sheet metal. why do they use CF as their finish layer? they think it looks good too. False advertising. To cover something in carbon fiber is misleading. To follow your analogy, it's as if someone painted their car gold to try to make people think it was made completely out of 24k.
fantasya98
10-20-2003, 01:53 PM
^^^^ agreeing w/ruf, that is totally false advertising, now unless they specifically say its not cf, and just a cover, than its ok for those w/diff. taste to decide, but most ppl dont know.. there was a time when i didnt know..
nokeone
10-20-2003, 01:59 PM
if it is a company trying to pawn off fake carbon fiber as the real deal then YES, it is wrong and is false advertising...because as was stated there are many people who are not savvy enough in the scene to note the difference themselves or to even ask the pertinent questions...
but, to play devil's advocate...while i don't agree with it...isn't it everyone's right to do what they will to their own car?..don't get me wrong..i fully plan on, and do, talk sh!t about cars i deem as "rice" or whatever in my opinion...but so what if someone wants to make you "think" their car has carbon this and carbon that...does it matter?..i can't see why it bothers you...if their car looks good them and sh!t to you...great...i love seeing POS cars that look like crap..makes me feel that much better about mine..
:)
andrave
10-20-2003, 02:18 PM
oh my bad ruf, you are completely right.
So all those people who bought those station wagons with the wood grain vinyl on the side (and the pt cruisers of the same) must be misleading, cause damn I for sure though they was made of wood.
:rolleyes:
RBS14
10-20-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by andrave
oh my bad ruf, you are completely right.
So all those people who bought those station wagons with the wood grain vinyl on the side (and the pt cruisers of the same) must be misleading, cause damn I for sure though they was made of wood.
:rolleyes:
you never cease to amaze me.
nokeone
10-20-2003, 03:26 PM
i actually would like Ruf to explain a little more what he means by false advertising..
to whom?..by whom?
thanks
Hey to each their own. Do whatever you want with your car. It's YOUR car. I just think it's tacky. Just like the faux wood grain. :p
nokeone
10-20-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by ruf
Hey to each their own. Do whatever you want with your car. It's YOUR car. I just think it's tacky. Just like the faux wood grain. :p
ok, that i completely agree with...it's worthless and stupid...just like most of the people in this world...oh wells...:)
i was thinking you were refering more along the lines of my thoughts on company false advertising.."Carbon Fiber Hood $600"...and it has one layer of carbon over fiberglass...that, i think, is just wrong..lol..
nokeone
10-20-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by RBS14
you never cease to amaze me.
yeah, but you are awed easily..lol..u get a stiffy when you smoke a d15 civic...oh wait..Rob hangs with you..lol..:p
Yah. I guess 2 levels of misleading people. One by GTP that lets stupid people believe that their double-sided carbon fiber (for show-winning looks!) is anything similar to full carbon fiber in terms of stiffness and weight savings. You've basically bought a fiberglass hood for a lot more money. Decent weight savings if you can live with the sh!t-fit. Funny how in all their pics where they say "parts have been test fitted and the fitment is perfect as you can see in these pics", the seams all look horrible to me. I'm sorry but a >1/4" gap is not acceptable to me. They even photograph with the door open so you can't see exactly how bad the rear gap is. :p
Level 2 misleading is the consumer that just wants to pose to his doofy buddies. That I couldn't care less about.
Well the fake CF is worthless! No to little performance just bling...
Real CF is awsome... I love the lightness of CF and tuff as steel...
I dislike fiberglass...
If all of that was real CF then it might be usefull... For the tuffness and the lightness... (But for fuks sake paint it!)
As for me... I wish my whole S14 bodie was REAL CF... (But I dont like the look so I would paint it)
Only little accents shuld be CF... Just a hint of its alright.
Tho I like the Poly parts now... Flexy!
DoriftoSlut
10-20-2003, 04:14 PM
Hahaha this is funny.
I think it would be badass to keep a car raw aluminum or steel instead of painting it. The material is very interesting to look at and its much more complex than you may think. BUT it rusts without protection over it, thats why steel cars have to be painted. So there is a necesity to do it. An FRP hood will not fall apart if you didn't cover the front and rear in 1 layer of CF cloth.:rolleyes:
Another thing, original woodies (in fact all cars at one point) were made from wood. In between the metal frame and fenders, the Woodies had a WOOD frame and WOOD panelling. So i think you just got owned on that one. The CURRENT PT Cruiser wannabes.. yeah i agree its not the same. However, you wonder why there aren't many existing original woodies? Just like raw steel will rust, the wood was VERY prone to rot. NOT feasible to keep making something that wont last.
Importfan is absolute crap. They copy something to the "T" Without changing and thing about how it looks. And they never credit the origin. Also, they are very sloppily made with weak materials and weak methods of fiberglassing. Baaaaaaaaad company. Baaaaaaaad.
RBS14
10-20-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by nokeone
yeah, but you are awed easily..lol..u get a stiffy when you smoke a d15 civic...oh wait..Rob hangs with you..lol..:p
Damn that D15! haha
Its alright, i can accept that my car is slower than sh!t!!!!!!!
My PANDA will eat him!
Zemus
10-20-2003, 04:29 PM
Just a little OT but what is a good maker of CF hoods that are REAL CF not just fake shit? We should make a list of fake CF Shit so ppl stay away from it
nokeone
10-20-2003, 04:38 PM
although i don't know from personal experience, i have heard nothing but good things about Yashio Factory and Border Racing..
Yashio Factory hood is about $1000. Have fun. I've got an MSports fiberglass hood. Decent weight savings. Nothing wrong with fiberglass. Just don't pretend it's carbon fiber. :p Sunny Styling used to make good stuff, but I heard they are out of business now. Maybe VIS? OR OETuning?
The sad thing about GTP/Import Fan is that they actually DO sell some nice stuff like ARC and Yashio Factory now. Then they "mis-spell" all of their knockoff products. It's funny to read some of the names like JN and Bordr.
If you've ever seen the Fairlady Z show car that they had before the release of the 350Z, you know how gorgeous the finish is. Apparently 5-digits worth of paintjob to make it look like brushed aluminum. This picture doesn't do it justice. I was floored by it.
http://www.biznetworking.com/ruf/images/350z/DSC01263.JPG
nocomedown
10-20-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Got Sileighty?
there are only 2 differences i see:
1) their place of origin
2) one is way way way way overpriced ;)
you're not looking close enough then
please dont tell me youd take a nissan over a lambo.
RBS14
10-20-2003, 06:53 PM
^^^
Yea, seriously, werd. there is no way any nissan in stock form could ever hang with a mercialago. NO WAY. Nissans are cool cars but be realistic here.
MisfitFlesh
10-24-2003, 12:24 AM
OK so is everything from importfan shit? Are the cwings carbon fiber parts any good? Im not going for the looks really because ill probably get the pieces painted.
Bliss
10-24-2003, 12:51 AM
doesnt g-grow do their cars with CF kits and their gunmetal/black rims? I think those look pretty damn sweet.
but most of that stuff is just added on top, blech.
VRT_BooZTT
10-24-2003, 06:22 AM
That toilet OWNZJU...ALL of you!! I love that..I'll have to put that on my house wish list. Like it was said..carbon (real carbon) with a purpose is great..regardless..as long as it isn't an overlay. :coolugh:
Got Sileighty?
10-24-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by nocomedown
you're not looking close enough then
please dont tell me youd take a nissan over a lambo.
hmmm i guess the little smiley winking was ignored. maybe i shouldve put in my comments, o well.
anyway my point is, if someone wants to carbon-fiber out their car, then let it be. a lambo all carbon-fibered-out vs a nissan all carbon-fibered-out...hmm whats the difference?
even if the cf was all fake on the nissan, who cares? the owner likes the look of it, isnt that all that matters? think of it like a paint job, some like black, some like red, some like green...etc.
Crab Walker
10-24-2003, 03:20 PM
I'd take a completely riced out lambo with altezzas over a clean Nissan anyday. After all, a lambo is still a lambo...
toreno
10-24-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by toreno
what about this
http://www.procarparts.com/productimages/HND-9600CV3D-CF.jpg
hey what about these?
old_s13
10-24-2003, 07:36 PM
it really depends, as long as the sports-car is PURPOSE built then it really comes down to comparing each and every pro and con of both cars (either nissan vs lamborghini, or any other sports-car company for that matter).
You cannot say JUST because its a FERRARI it must be better, Ferrari has made their share of shitty cars too. Look at the Ferrari Mondial, its hardly "exotic" -- but then you can look at supercars like the F60 Enzo and well, no details are overlooked.
Every car has to be carefully disected before you can pass judgements on them. From the motor, suspension, brakes, price, build quality, you name it.. they're all factors.
When you think about it, the Murcielago sure is an "exotic" car made of exotic materials and costs quite an arm and a leg. On the other hand, you have cars like the Skyline which when modified properly, can really compete with the high-end exotic-cars.
So, which is better? I would still tend to think the Lamborghini is more expensive and made of FINER materials, but there's NO DOUBT that the Skyline can definately put down impressive figures -- even if its not using some of these "EXOTIC" materials for the frame and body panels. Besides, you cant make up for "lack of driver skills" -- so put an idiot behind an Exotic Car and it will show, wack drivers need to stay out of the kitchen.
Bottom line? Respect, admire, and appreciate exotic-cars for being what they are. At the same time, respect modders who KNOW how to build their cars and KNOW how to drive them.
Part of the reason I rarely give props to people who drive cars like Supras, Ferraris, Porsches, etc.. they RARELY know how to weild the power they possess.
-m
nocomedown
10-24-2003, 10:05 PM
:stupid: i'd have to say mike has a very fair way of looking at this.
although with the price i could sell a ferrari for, i could get 20 nice 240SXs:D :D
ZOLTAN
10-25-2003, 03:20 PM
I think alot of people here fail to understand the differences between the types and construction of composites on the market.
Just to keep this simple there are two basic types, dry and wet.
The carbon you see on an F1 car, stealth fighter, Ferrari's, etc. Is created using a "dry" process that allows you to use less resin thus making it lighter. It's kind of baked while under pressure instead of air dried. This process can almost be duplicated using a vacuum bagging technique, but that is another discussion entirely.
Now, the stuff that Importfan sells is "wet" carbon.
It's constructed the same way a fiberglass part would be. layers of composite material and brushed(or sprayed) epoxy or resin.
The weight difference compared to fiberglass is small in my opinion.
These parts can be made in your garage with no fancy equipment.
It's rather sad to see someone make a comment like "I dislike fiberglass". This is just idiotic. I think you fail to see the benefits of a well made fiberglass part. In fact a very well made "wet" fiberglass piece can be lighter than a "wet" carbon one. It all depends on the skill of the craftsman.
.Eddie.
Jsquared
10-28-2003, 04:49 PM
NiteKids is just jealous because they didn't make a faux-CF Zeal bumper :D
Zemus
10-28-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Jsquared
NiteKids is just jealous because they didn't make a faux-CF Zeal bumper :D
So So True
808Supra
10-29-2003, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by ZOLTAN
I think alot of people here fail to understand the differences between the types and construction of composites on the market.
Just to keep this simple there are two basic types, dry and wet.
The carbon you see on an F1 car, stealth fighter, Ferrari's, etc. Is created using a "dry" process that allows you to use less resin thus making it lighter. It's kind of baked while under pressure instead of air dried. This process can almost be duplicated using a vacuum bagging technique, but that is another discussion entirely.
Now, the stuff that Importfan sells is "wet" carbon.
It's constructed the same way a fiberglass part would be. layers of composite material and brushed(or sprayed) epoxy or resin.
The weight difference compared to fiberglass is small in my opinion.
These parts can be made in your garage with no fancy equipment.
It's rather sad to see someone make a comment like "I dislike fiberglass". This is just idiotic. I think you fail to see the benefits of a well made fiberglass part. In fact a very well made "wet" fiberglass piece can be lighter than a "wet" carbon one. It all depends on the skill of the craftsman.
.Eddie.
omg... someone who has a clue what they are talking about... so nice to see.
all that stuff import fan is using is wet carbon... not dry... so yes, it DOES cost them less than $50 in parts to make things. A friend and I made 3 layer wet carbon side skirt copys. They are about as strong as thin fiberglass. If we brake them, who cares, it will take us a few days to make another set. It cost us about $50 in parts and a few hours to figure everything out doing tiral and error. Now, all be it the side skirts dont fit like OEM parts, but sure fits a lot better than most knock off body kits do. Anyone with a decent budget, some time, and a book can make wet carbon parts. So far we made side skirts, rear mud guards, dash trim, winow sill covers, ducting for intercoolers, and some other little things. I'll post pics after we paint them and put them on the new car.
dry carbon on the other hand....
weirdstyles.net
10-29-2003, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by 808Supra
omg... someone who has a clue what they are talking about... so nice to see.
all that stuff import fan is using is wet carbon... not dry... so yes, it DOES cost them less than $50 in parts to make things. A friend and I made 3 layer wet carbon side skirt copys. They are about as strong as thin fiberglass. If we brake them, who cares, it will take us a few days to make another set. It cost us about $50 in parts and a few hours to figure everything out doing tiral and error. Now, all be it the side skirts dont fit like OEM parts, but sure fits a lot better than most knock off body kits do. Anyone with a decent budget, some time, and a book can make wet carbon parts. So far we made side skirts, rear mud guards, dash trim, winow sill covers, ducting for intercoolers, and some other little things. I'll post pics after we paint them and put them on the new car.
dry carbon on the other hand....
how how how? It is a simple mold a pour process? It it werent for me buying web development books by the dozen I would pick up a CF book and maybe ass some intelegent comments to this discussion
bob marley
10-30-2003, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by brianglawson
mostros are running shoes....i have some bright orange mostro meshes:D they are the most comfortable things in the world though
Originally posted by ruf
I'm working on it. But for women only. Get some Nike woven shoes. Kinda cool weave thing. I have some Puma Mostro's that have a weave pattern. Great driving shoes.
Unrelated, but I tried a pair of these on yesterday and they are so comfortable and are good driving shoes. Thanks.
Is it possible to paint carbon fiber and have it looking like any other painted fiberglass or urethane part? The few times I see a painted carbon fiber part painted, you can still see the weave in it. Do they leave it like that on purpose for the look, or is it just impossible to paint?
Johann
Bliss
10-30-2003, 10:22 AM
Try wrestling shoes as driving shoes. :D
Thin, lightweight, conform to your foot in EVERY way, very comfy.
Maeda
10-31-2003, 04:18 PM
Actually in importfans deffense (don't hurt me, I didn't buy it from them) The S14 hood I have is really really light, and is c/f top to bottom(I don't see any fiberglass). It doesn't fit worth a shit but its really light... I think it must be a cheap single or dual layered one... It's pretty transparent(light!).
Now all I need to do is paint it! C/F bling good on a race car, not for somebody that has to park in downtown LA overnight every-so-often.
I really wish there were something other then hood pins to hold the damn thing down too.
BTW is dry carbon fiber heated and then vaccuformed? I have access to a vaccuum forming machine ^_^... I'm guessing it needs to be super heated by some special process though...
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