ABS Diff???

[Skilz10179]

My car is a 98 S14 non-abs 5 speed,,,

I'm in the process of installing my Drive Shaft Shop one piece aluminum drive shaft (among a million other things) and its too long, I called DSS and gave them measurements of the drive shaft they sent me and they say i have the correct part. They keep insisting that i have abs and that the abs drive shaft is shorter....

My car definatly does not have abs but the stock drive shaft i removed is .5" shorter than the non-abs DDS shaft. Although the car was stock when i bought it, i'm starting to wonder if maybe the previous owner had a abs diff and drive shaft on the car for some reason.

How do i know if my diff is a abs or non-abs?

[KiLLeR2001]

Sounds like the previous owner swapped in ABS driveshaft and differential. Not too knowledgeable on S14's, but I want to say that none of the Non-ABS models came with a VLSD from factory (I could be wrong though).

[Skilz10179]

Sounds like the previous owner swapped in ABS driveshaft and differential. Not too knowledgeable on S14's, but I want to say that none of the Non-ABS models came with a VLSD from factory (I could be wrong though).

That's the other odd thing, this car definitely had a open diff. I just had the entire pumpkin out and swapped the open S14 diff out for a helical S15 lsd so I'm sure of this...

I still cannot figure out why the non-abs drive shaft is longer than the drive shaft i had stock...

[Skilz10179]

Does any have the exact lengths of the stock drive shafts abs vs non-abs???

[satek]

If your diff has abs...there should be a sensor like this on it

http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_11_2010/post-14506-12905784842905_thumb.jpg

[Skilz10179]

Thanks for the pic! Its nice to actually be able to see the difference between the abs and non-abs diffs, mine was definitely non-abs open diff.

I'm still not sure why my stock drive shaft is a half inch shorter than the DSS shaft. I measured the DSS shaft while i was on the phone with them and they swear it is the correct length for a non-abs car and the only other option is the shorter abs shaft.

Does anyone have exact measurements of abs vs non-abs drive shafts?

[desertKAdrifter]

the non-abs driveshaft should be about 3/4 inch longer than abs shaft. There should not be a problem installing your driveshaft because there should be enough play in the tranny mount to fit it in. I have been driving my car with a swapped j30 vlsd(3/4" inch longer than non-abs) and a non-abs solid driveshaft for about 6 months without a problem.

[Skilz10179]

I'm starting to believe i have a freak car on my hands... I have already verified that my car has no ABS and has a Non-ABS diff but now i'm starting to thing my car some how has a ABS drive shaft....

On another site i found this for drive shaft lengths..


S14:
Section 1: Coming From Trans (ABS makes no Diff. in Length here)
M/T = 421.0mm (16.57")
A/T = 441.0mm (17.37")

Section 2: Center Bearing/Mount to Diff
Non-ABS = 650.0mm (25.59")
ABS = 636.0mm (25.04")


Basically the ABS shaft is .55" shorter.

Now when i measure OEM drive shaft vs the DDSS Non-ABS drive shaft using a tape measure, my OEM drive shaft measure roughly 9/16" (.5625") shorter from the diff flange to the yoke flange.

Does this mean my car is a fream and uses a ABS drive shaft and a Non-ABS diff???

Here is a pic of the difference in length. (the other ends are flush against my tool box)

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2977/2729/32441364040_large.jpg
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[Ltkouki]

cool, i actually was wondering this as well.

is it possible that your driveshaft has been rebuilt by someone?:/