I found a supercharger for 240sx!!!!!

[brianglawson]

check this mad performance stuff out man its awesome, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
what a fuc-kin joke some of that **** is, but i guess in theory i could see how it might help a little bit, but not enough to justify adding the weight...lol

CLICK HERE (http://www.esuperchargers.com/)

[Zemus]

Wow how pointless, doesnt make me to happy cuz ive been looking for a nice supercharger kit for the KA for years, and you have a header like that, it makes me think my search may be over, but no, you have to post some lame ass thing.. wtf..

[Bliss]

Hey, just curious, but why are you looking for a supercharger instead of a turbocharger? Wouldn't it be quite a bit more efficient with a TC?

[radhaz]

brianglawson that is :ghey: there's been several discussions on the merits of those pos's and they are detrimental to airflow ie NOT GOOD. Don't waste your money on something like that, save it for a tune-up and get more out of your $15.

[brianglawson]

good god, sorry i thought it was something new and i just posted it for a joke, have a sense of humor,

oni, why dont you custom make one, i have seen many people do it for vw's

[Zemus]

Well the main reason I always wanted to do it was for the reason of the nice power gain. Also its diffrent, And I love the sound of a blown Engine, MM, Ive seen some decent write ups on SR20DEs with superchargers, i was conistering that, but I really want to Supercharge my DE that the Have in my parts car, but to make one would be a GRIP of money, so more than likley I will just turbo it

[brianglawson]

wow..i just looked at my 240's motor and i see why not, there really isnt enough room for, and i looks kinda like there would be a pulley hook up problem too but i wonder if you could call unstable hybrids and maybe get them to HELP you, like kinda take there idea, maybe you would see something they dont...you never know

[Zemus]

They tryed to do it a while back and gave up, also im in MN, not CA ;-/

[Bill Roberts]

A "real" supercharger can be installed directly in front of the pentium butterfly....but as it is pointed out, pricy. 3K and up.

Turbo is the way to go for performace gains without tearing down the engine.

To really get HP gains...these steps should be of order before going fully asperated:

Stroker crank.
Balanced and blueprinted bottom end.
Port and polish the intake and exaust of the heads and reshape the valve bowls.
Ported matching intake manifold.
SCV removal.
Combustion chamber matching (8.5 to one is good for 12lbs boost, YMMV)
Undated ECU (JWT does fine work)
Freeflow exaust system/Header pipe
Updated MAFS
Precision racing valve springs.
Update camshaft(s) I run a KAE so updated singular camshaft
Updated head gasket.
Updated valveguides
Updated Camshaft gears and chain
Updated drive train mounts
Updated Clutch, bearing, PP and flywheel
Undersize pulleys
Removal of clutchfan, updated radiator/fans
Updated injectors.
Updated coil/ignitors
Updated sparkplug wires and plugs
Updated grounding system for all components (star grounding)
Updated oil pan/oil pump
Updated Fuel pump
Updated Fuel management system (better lines, filters)
Better flowing positive crankcase ventalation
Oil Bung for turbo


...and I left out a few...the labor, fees, tuning, dyno time..all of that... Above can cost many many thousands. I have 6K in reciepts from the prev. owner...+ what I have managed to do.


See how expensive it can get all motor?, Then you add the turbo, boost controller, bov, intercooler, piping, air intake mods, suspention mods (to hold the power)...it does not stop with mods.

This is one reason why so many folks get a clip with an SR/RB and start with performance capable engine. The KA's can do well...but if you do the above, you will have a beast, N/A

PS, Dousan, I will dyno my car once I am satisftyed that I can show an outragous set of numbers..and find someone to videotape and host it. I still am having a fuel starvation problem around 7K, and a super rich problerm when it comes down (fire out the tailpipe)so no dyno to be published yet.

[brianglawson]

wow bill is a ka freak, iwas thinking about it b4 i got my 240, but since i got the blown motor, i figured i would go on and get a sr2o, i figure it would be about the same as getting a another ka and turboing it, plus more aftermarket out there for the sr20 turbo:)

[Zemus]

You pmed me with how much power your running Bill, thats freaking nutz (cant tell you guys) You should build ka's :-D

[Bill Roberts]

True. The SR makes a lot of sense for value sakes....but since the RB25/26 is only around 70lbs heavier, you can move the battery to the back and lose PS and AC..comes out about the same LBS with large intercooler.

The KA can do quite a bit of performance with the right $$$ but then again..as much as I hang on to the old thing, for moneys sake, the SR entire clip installed would run close to what building a KA correctly, without the turbo. Then you have the turbo to contend with.

I will always say an SR or even a CA is a tremendous value for bang=buck. An RB clip runs around what it takes to get a KA, turboed, up to par in the mid to high 300 HP/Low 400's. (6 to 7K)

Looks like the bean counters did their homework. I was told in Japan, you can buy an SR clip for around 750..it is the shipping that tears us up. I do like the looks on folks faces when I pop the hood and it is a KAE sitting there. It may be getting too long in the tooth (60K miles since it was built) to make serious power at this time.

Look at some of the funny threads on electro turbochargers on this board. I go back to them to have a big laugh...I can't blame those who want to try it..but common sense says...it could never , ever produce presurrazation on the intake system...poor old fan blades may get sucked down the pipe (lol)

[Bill Roberts]

Lets look at prices...correct me if you have different ones..

KAE Stock 140 SHP 120RWHP
4K in blockwork, well the list above.. PLUS LABOR (N/A)

230SHP 210RWHP

Add another 2grand in Fuel management, other expensive parts..max out in the 275SHP/250RWHP. You can buy an RB with ober 300HP for this..so KAE building is not a good value..but this was what was happening in the early to mid 90's. Carbs can get you a tad over 300SHP (n/a)


Turbo that motor (built) maybe low 400's I don't know exactly.

(Something has caused mine to be about 40Less RWHP than my absolute max...Lean at high RPM, rich at low...needs tweaking out..or it is getting tired)

SRDET depending on model 205 to 250SHP, 200 to 235 RWHP 2to3K Plus Labor. Can be built up to over 350RWHP for not a whole lot more.

RB25/26 250-300SHP and can go over 500RWHP with another roughly 2 to 3 K invested +Labor.

Breakdown.

SR, most power = Dollar
CA, A beast in its own right (old motor though)
KAE Expensive to get high power, most expensive to get it to rev out to 8K, very expensive to turbo..and I doubt it will ever go past 400HP
KADE Same as above for build
Less expnsive to turbo than KAE..kits ava. 250 to 325RWHP is doable. Bolt turbo on a stock motor...220RWHP is doable.
Most expensive..

RB25DET, RB26DETT.

Wallet decides your limit...as with the KAE.

For what it would take to make a mofo out of a turbo KAE, you can have a 400HP RB26DETT...IMHO...Installed.

KAE not worth it.

KADE, extra dough, more than SR to do it.

CA18DET, low miles, hard if not impossable to find.

This verifies why the SR swap is so popular. It is the best bang/buck

[brianglawson]

very imformative i beleive thsi info should be stickied somewhere for all the noob's like me to read, thank you bill:bowdown:

[Zemus]

Im sure a home made turbo kid or a peiced together one would be the cheapest rought to go, wouldent it?

[zero.counter]

We have to remember that a lot of times, cheap=ass! For instance, ingnore dollar store brands for the most part and gas from little unknown stations. ;)

[deviousKA]

If i were indian, and were to give bill an indian name, it would be Walking Eagle.

[Bill Roberts]

Actually, I am an Indian, and the root name of my ancestors is Faulkner.

We come from Faulkner/Story/Hullett families. I was only named Roberts because my Dad was adopted in 1925 by the Roberts family...Due to his Dad, passing away at a very early age and his Mom passing away from a grease pop on the skillet, popping on her lip and causing blood poisoning. No Modern medicine in 1924.

The Hulletts were pure Indian...from the name derived from Hullok...or meaning "pecan grower/farmer" since this is what the hulloks did in the tribe is harvest pecans. The Storys were Corn growers and the "story" was to make corn from fish fertilizer. Storys were great men of fish and buried Fish to make corn grow. Still today, fish is the best way to fertile ground for corn (and corn whishy, hence Stories).


Faulkners also has 40000 acres of POT for hemp production in the 1800's. They all have changfed their names by now. They made hemp paper, rope and of course some smokable plants as well. The Indians had no regulation to what they did, unlike all the rules of today by our Govt. that steals 30%+ (65% for me) of your money and does not give you a personal account form.

(A lot of substance delivered in alcohol from corn squezzings...way before white man knew)

My Mom was a Story, my Dad a Hullett, My Dads Grandad is all Faulkner, and Hawkum (Hawk trainers) The Hawkums were notious Indians. They used Hawks to kill people as well as to steal things. Had them trained dead. They were reported to have the ability so they could see through the hawks eye to direct the hawk. You dont want to fuck with a large hawk. Bad ass bird. (1600's)

Billy Joe Faulkner was chief of the Cherokee tribe in the state of Alabmama before he died 16 years ago.

We are Cherokees

We were not only all kin, we participated in active pow wows, as we do today.

I come from

Falcon Trainer.

Us Eagles already know. We train the Falcon. A most formidable bird.

I guess us Eagles can walk in the falcons footsteps. I like your thoughts on this devious! (KA...ya..)

Indian folklore has accuracies. Us American Indians do have a few special gifts, once we decide to use them and practice them...not unlike Oriental traits...quite simalar in fact.

Some are scary...that they actually work...but I will perserve that to speculation,,until you been around our kind long enought to see, and start to understand some of it.

[deviousKA]

Quite a nice story and background there bill. I was making a joke and thought that Walking Eagle fit because your so full of sh1t you cant fly.

all in good humor ;)

[andrave]

no native american calls themselves an "indian." only people from India do that.

What the hell does any of that have to do with the bullshit supercharger posted? nothing.
And that isn't a supercharger anyway, a supercharger transforms mechanical energy into boost, that is electrical energy.
And they are pieces of shit that don't work.

[brianglawson]

the supercharger is junk, i just posted it becasue i had never seen it on here and i figured everyone needed a good laugh