I need everyones else input on this situation.....

[BJManies]

I recently traded my car for another car.
Today the previous owner called me demanding he needed the car back because now that he put the car on a lift, he see's some stuff he is not happy about and says we "have" to trade back.

He states that legally he can get the car back because I have not yet sent the title off, and because the name on the front of the title, is still HIS name and address, not mine.

He also states that because I had my title notarized BEFORE I met up with him, that mine is not valid, and that the notary who did mine broke the law, because he/she has to see HIM when I sign it over. But I don't understand how that is true, because cant I get the title notarized as a seller, and then just keep hold of it, so in the future, when/if I decide to get rid of the car, its already notarized?

My title was notarized, then signed by ME as the seller, then signed y him as the buyer. As his title was notarized, signed by him as the seller, and then signed by me as the buyer.

Can he legally get the car back? Thanks everyone. This will be a HUGE help.

[xiM.Clutch]

I think you messed up by getting it notarized beforehand. Just hold your ground, if he REALLY doesnt want to keep the car let him get into the legal issue. He knowingly signed it as well so he is in the wrong too. Not to mention he also didnt do his job as a trader and get the car checked 1st. Stuff like this is hella stressful but you might hold up in court GL bro

[Sileighty_85]

Notary:
If you are selling the car, YOU can get have your name notarized prior to selling and when you give it to him he will take it to a notary and have his signature notarized.

Ive done that probably 3 times and was told by the notary that its legal

if you have a bill of sale thats signed and notarized, I dont THINK he can take the car back. Just hurry up and get the title in your name.

Its that other guys fault for not checking out the car completely prior to trade

[brndck]

he fucked up.
dumb ass shoulda inspected the car before he took delivery of it.

[Hashiriya415]

Seriously what is it that he didn't like what he saw underneath the car?

[NNOCENT]

probably frame cancer rust or a hole through the frame already ;)

[chituntang]

It depends of your trade agreement, if it is on paper or just words. If it is just words, it is yours against the other trader, nobody can do nothing unless there is a neutral witness. If it is on paper, then unless the paper stated that I am trading my perfect condition 240 for your civic, then the other trader cannot do much either.

If he signed over the title to you, he cannot do shit even if you have not yet getting sending it in yet.

[DRIFTO16]

Man these situations suck just hold
your ground, if he signed then you should hurry and get it in your name he isnt going to be able to do much about it after that
like stated above if it doesnt say i sell my perfect nissan for your honda then your good
good luck with this
it was his fault for not
checking it out before the trade

[MrFairlady]

well,....you def did the title part backwards. the notary is supposed to seal the approval with both parties present (unless South Carolina). So yes,...it was illegally done and took him a couple days before he could even Drive to work because of it.

Either way he wanted it back because your car was a complete pile of shit for 1, before getting it in the air, with a paint job performed by Ray Charles,Dead & in a fucking HURRICANE.
nevermind Every panel on the car is Beat to hell.
He was somewhat taken advantage of I think but,he was the one i guess that agreed on the deal,all the while having only 30 mins in meeting you.

With only knowing a little of the Situation,There was def some false info given,possibly, about you car and SOMEHOW vouched for on your thread,by a couple people that clearly have questionable taste in whats a "solid car" and considered "sexy" .

Whats done is done,but That car was Not quite worth a Beat up S13,..better yet a stock S14 that you were looking for.
Oh well,You got a Great deal from that transaction. Car is currently being scraped and the motor is about all thats maybe useful.......?

the end.

BTW: hes a neighbor of mine and knows he made a Giant Mistake...especially after bringing it by to me to look at also.

[nismo240sxdrifter]

^
Zilivia is a small world haha. Technically it was his fault, but if you were shady, it just sucks to be him. I will not do business with you.

[lflkajfj12123]

well,....you def did the title part backwards. the notary is supposed to seal the approval with both parties present (unless South Carolina). So yes,...it was illegally done and took him a couple days before he could even Drive to work because of it.

Either way he wanted it back because your car was a complete pile of shit for 1, before getting it in the air, with a paint job performed by Ray Charles,Dead & in a fucking HURRICANE.
nevermind Every panel on the car is Beat to hell.
He was somewhat taken advantage of I think but,he was the one i guess that agreed on the deal,all the while having only 30 mins in meeting you.

With only knowing a little of the Situation,There was def some false info given,possibly, about you car and SOMEHOW vouched for on your thread,by a couple people that clearly have questionable taste in whats a "solid car" and considered "sexy" .

Whats done is done,but That car was Not quite worth a Beat up S13,..better yet a stock S14 that you were looking for.
Oh well,You got a Great deal from that transaction. Car is currently being scraped and the motor is about all thats maybe useful.......?

the end.

BTW: hes a neighbor of mine and knows he made a Giant Mistake...especially after bringing it by to me to look at also.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Internet justice

edit: link to forsale thread?

[MrFairlady]

hahah I know - Crazy...I just happened to See his Name and the thread was bumped by someone,so I figured i'd post.
We were trying to get ahold of him (due to the title issue) on a Local Forum with no luck.

Neighbor must have smoked a goddamn acre of weed before meeting/and seeing this car thats for sure

[lflkajfj12123]

hahahahaha high woo'd

[brndck]

bullshit.
if he
AGREED to
it
HE SHOULD HAVE INSPECTED IT

[MrFairlady]

bullshit.
if he
AGREED to
it
HE SHOULD HAVE INSPECTED IT

Well no doubt.
he def took the trade and whats done is done...the only reason he did is because he does not know much about these cars and Took some other peoples word on it and knew it would be a fixer-upper. This car screams "Car-compactor".

I think he'd love to have that day back all over again.

The new car he got,he made sure I was somewhat involved due to the lack of knowledge of the cars.

[sincity_sil80]

thats some shady sketch ass shit! Just remember when kharma comes around its not gonna be pretty, thats all i have to say

[usdm180sx]

he fucked up.
dumb ass shoulda inspected the car before he took delivery of it.

It's not my car. I haven't taken delivery of it yet. Haha it's nobody's car. Someone put in the wrench time. What do you think Lance? It's an amazing machine haha

[sincity_sil80]

spoken from the great johnny tran! Hopefully this guys car doesnt have the same outcome lol

[Sr20Bluebird]

Pure shadyness from all sides, karmas a bitch.

[Goldeneye9mm]

lol i've never had a title noterized but i dunno how diff state laws work. anyway if you didn't make any promisses to contition of the car he doesn't have a leg to stand on. he signd the title so if someone found it on the street they could re title it in their name. it's your car not and he can't do anything about it.

side note: get a new lock and key set he probobly has a spair somewhere. plus you addres is on the old title he has. protect your investment!

[redline racer510]

Same shit happened to me and the guy that bought my car said it wasn't a fair trade and I told him it's too late and he said he was gonna sue me and told him do what you have to do and that was 2 years ago hasn't called back nor sent a letter from his lawyer. Personally I wouldn't worry about it people that say there gonna sue 8/10 times are trying to scare you into giving back your car if he calls again best thing to do is not answer.

[MrFairlady]

It's over with.

Both parties are 20yrs old and clearly do not know much about these cars.
1: the seller had a pile of shit that clearly treated it like that.
2: the trader wanted a coupe instead of a nice s14 and made a quick decision.

Trader had a leg to stand on tbh but once the op titled the car it's his ownership now.
His title was considered voided due to he checked both boxes on the title he shouldn't have and could have been sued.

It's all over. I just happen to know this situation and did not mean to flare up a rash that this op dropped into my neighborhood. Hahahah

[DRIFTO16]

I understand your outburst
seeing as how u might have a friendship with your nieghboor but like u said whats done is done his lack of knowledge landed him in this situation
.....but it doesnt help
if the seller was shady and untruthfull
about the conditions of the car,
and had people make his car sound better then what it realy was
all i can say is learn from your mistakes weve all made a deal that we werent too happy about

[MrFairlady]

I understand your outburst


me..Outburst?...not quite. Its Not my problem Really, I just hope he's (neighbor) learned his lesson.


Please Lock Thread :lockd:

[n8RPS13]

I like how BJmanies hasnt said shit once MyFairLady popped in HAHA! I hate shady kids!

MODS lets lock this!

[c72c]

Just for informational purposes, before this is locked.

The seller did not do the notarizing 'backwards'.
If you take your title to a notary, sign it and have them notarize it, it is the same as having an open title.
In this case, the new owner takes the car and the title and signs it in front of a notary himself and the car is his.

It's real convenient when you're buying a car out of city/state and have to get it back to your place to register it.

Both parties don't have to be together to sign their titles this way.
In most cases, with local people buying/selling, both parties generally go with eachother to get everything signed and notarized.
Neither way is wrong/right, just more convenient depending on the situation.

[xislander]

just whoop his ass. end of story.

[PITCH]

Pics of said "pile"..

[slowvia]

It's over with.

Both parties are 20yrs old and clearly do not know much about these cars.
1: the seller had a pile of shit that clearly treated it like that.
2: the trader wanted a coupe instead of a nice s14 and made a quick decision.

Trader had a leg to stand on tbh but once the op titled the car it's his ownership now.
His title was considered voided due to he checked both boxes on the title he shouldn't have and could have been sued.

It's all over. I just happen to know this situation and did not mean to flare up a rash that this op dropped into my neighborhood. Hahahah

Sounds about right, Ive heard very similar stories before, but in the end, a deal is a deal. Sorry to hear about your neighbor, but hey, you just cant make decisions like that in the time it takes to smoke a cigarette. Live and learn...

[dontxploitme]

kill him.... lol

[godrifttoday]

So we should feel sorry for the guy that got a car he wanted? But then was talked out of it by his neighbors or friends , because they didn't like it ???? Did I understand right?

[MrFairlady]

So we should feel sorry for the guy that got a car he wanted? But then was talked out of it by his neighbors or friends , because they didn't like it ???? Did I understand right?


No by any means...all we need to worry about is when this thread will be locked.:dead:
I'm not Posting here to try and get the car back for my neighbor or the story Straight...just saw the guy posted here is all.


Whats done is done.

[ixfxi]

you guys are a bunch of dicks

i demand pics


how rude, putting us through all this anticipation without pics


jerks

[R_G]

Dang, Hella shady.


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[burtonrida133]

pictures of both cars in the trade...

[ItsTravis]

i agree with ixfxi..... jerks, but all of this couldve been avoided if BJ wouldnt have been a POS and the other guy wouldve looked over the car. oh well, just remember that this BJmanies guy is shady and dont buy from him, he ruined his own name with this one if you ask me haha

[Maximamike]

Here we go. These 2 cars?

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9350/dscn2042k.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6641/19267417675579022911039.jpg

[MrFairlady]

Here we go. These 2 cars?

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9350/dscn2042k.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6641/19267417675579022911039.jpg
The top car is not it. This car was Base model S14, no lip with 350Z Wheels/5lug with OEM Fogs.Perfect interior.Slightly 4x4.

The Coupe is It Though.

I guess thats the best pic you could ever Take of that car.If only it looked even a 1/4 of the way close to that.
I would say if I wanted a coupe and someone said "hey,..I have this car for sale" then I would have went to see it No doubt....Once arriving I would have Vomited doing my U-turn out of the neighborhood.

It must have been taken before the Spray Bomb white wheel paint started Chipping also.They look New there.
If only you could see the other 1/4 panel and a better view of that one.
The 2 front fenders are about the only thing Decent on the car.

Oh well. can't believe the Thread is still alive....and the car for that matter. he is still driving it to work.I can hear him Roll up into the Hood from my house.

[holemilk00]

So much horrible legal shit being spewed in this thread its making me laugh. Most of you that don't know anything about the laws regarding this, should learn to shut up before you get more people in a situation like this. I could make a list a mile long of all the misinformation in here.

[MrFairlady]

So much horrible legal shit being spewed in this thread its making me laugh.

Whats Making me still laugh is how this thread is still open.

State of North Carolina LAWS...I belive it was done Incorrect (according to my Lexus Dealerships Title Dept),but either way it doesn't matter because its DONE.
Right or wrong it worked out for the OP in the end.

/The end

[holemilk00]

Yeah I know man, I'm from Wilmington, I just came up to U of M for the JD/MBA program, most of what you're saying is correct, but some of the other nonsense being posted by others is more fantasy than a Disney movie.

[Chaluska]

http://www.thingswhatwewin.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/642197m.jpg

For the OP.

Dodged a bullet with this one

[WanganNastyMachine]

Zilvians served justice.

I love this place! I feel bad for both ends, but both were shady and unfortinately one made a quick decision which ended up resulting in a huge mistake.

I hope both parties learned a good lesson from this, so it doesnt happen again.