slided into a crub... now what...please help...

[silvia14]

was doing 60 on a 35 turn, it was raining, i lost control, spinned around, and finally slided into a curb parallel with my passenger side. rear wheel hit the curb 1st, then the front, then the rear wheel of the driver side also landed onto the crub. towed the car home, found out the following:

rear lower control arm (passenger side) smashed into /\ shape;
rear knuckle (passenger side) borke into TWO PIECE;
rear upper front control arm (passenger side, shortest one) has some damages, but still in original shape... maybe got hitted by the wheel.
rear right wheel totally trashed...
front right wheel damaged. fixable.

that's the only visual damage. so far. the front suspesion pieces seems to be fine.

im trying to source parts in junkyard and replace the broken parts. if you have the parts i wanted let me know. thanks.

questions: any other possible damage i should aware? drive axle? tie rod? coilovers? unibody frame damage?

thanks alot.


rear lower arm smashed. knuckle in 2 pieces.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pd2674c785cbb8eef5bf509542b9d71ca/fadd88fa.jpg


rear right wheel...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p141bccc6186da30912efbe787465ff40/fadd88f6.jpg



ouch blitz nurspec
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pe0810af83387181a34d4863a22b91ea6/fadd88fd.jpg

[mrmephistopheles]

way to go, Takumi.

any other possible damage i should aware?
English works well on this site.

drive axle? tie rod? coilovers? unibody frame damage?

Look for yourself.
If your tie rods aren't taco'd they're probably okay. Just have a good look at everything for yourself. As far as frame damage, you'd need a body shop to inspect it. It may not appear damaged in the least, but you could've bent your frame a few cm. Then, too, it could be perfectly straight.

BTW, the words are 'spun', not spinned, 'slid' not slided, and 'hit' - not hitted..
Sorry to nitpick, but this is simple spelling and grammar. If MY stupid ass can get it right, so too, can you.

Finally, note to you:
A 35mph curve should be taken at 35mph. ESPECIALLY IN THE RAIN. coilovers and swaybars do not make you invincible and transform your car into an F1 car with rain tires on. Yes it's fun to take turns faster than they should be taken, but have a smidge of common sense when doing it, and you're less likely to have to do repairs like this, and you'll have more money to dump on other mods.

Well, anyway, rant over. Good luck in getting your car fixed. Hopefully you learned something from you experience.



edit: and it's 'curb', not crub. :D

[silvia14]

as for my stupid ass english, i've been learning it and using it for 3 years...not really an excuse....but well anyways thanks for correcting my grammar and spellings.


can frame damage be repiared nicely? or once it's bent, it can't be pulled back to a perfect shape? (or at least close to perfect?)



thanks again,
jeff

[mrmephistopheles]

Jeff - if you've only been doing the whole english thing for 3y, then keep up the good work.

Frames can be pulled and in most cases (like yours) no visible difference will be seen.

[aznpoopy]

sorry to hear about the damage. know your limits! i know exactly what speed i can take all the local 'corners' at my level of driving. i have a safe speed, a fast speed and a limit speed for each turn. rain is one set and dry is another. driving fast on the street is dumb but i admit i'm guilty of doing it occasionally. if you have a fuzzy idea of what speed you can take that turn, then don't take it aggressively. start at a normal speed. if you feel you can go faster, then take it 2 or 3 mph faster next time. improve your driving ability SAFELY. on top of that, learn about weight shift, driving lines, etc etc. it's not just for racing. it makes you a safer driver. rwd forces you to be a more technical driver. too fast into a corner in a fwd all you have to do is brake. too fast into a corner in rwd and brake hard or throttle lift; you have a good chance of spinning out. sorry for the preaching.

[ny_jee]

Start sourcing a subframe, most likely it shifted/bent. I did the exact same thing, had the same damage. Check also toe arm, my battleversion one went on that incident. Check your Tein, I am guessing HE. That's about all I can think of now. But definately a subframe.

[JasonNagra]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles



English works well on this site.



MY stupid ass can get it right, so too, can you.

Finally, note to you:
A 35mph curve should be taken at 35mph. ESPECIALLY IN THE RAIN.




Word.

[nokeone]

damn bro, that sucks...sorry to hear about the misfortune...well now's a good time to upgrade your suspension arms and stuff to aftermarket...and new wheels..:D..lol..

[SlideStar]

Originally posted by ny_jee
Start sourcing a subframe, most likely
it shifted/bent. I did the exact same thing, had the same damage.

Yup same here,:bash: control arms too. You may find
more things wrong after you get wheels aligned.

goodluck

[silvia14]

Originally posted by ny_jee
Start sourcing a subframe, most likely it shifted/bent. I did the exact same thing, had the same damage. Check also toe arm, my battleversion one went on that incident. Check your Tein, I am guessing HE. That's about all I can think of now. But definately a subframe.

thanks for the info, i'll look into that. if my subframe is bent, is it fixable? or i HAVE to get another one? and how do i tell if the subframe is in good shape?

what about the front suspension? it hit on the curb parallel too. though, the rear took most of the impact since the rear hit the curb first, then the front.

and there's no VISUAL damage on teins. should i check it further? those are tein flex.

thanks again,
jeff

[Justice]

me and my little group of friends call that corner you just DNF'd the "learning curve"

we keep tie rods in our glove boxes =P

[ny_jee]

Originally posted by silvia14
thanks for the info, i'll look into that. if my subframe is bent, is it fixable? or i HAVE to get another one? and how do i tell if the subframe is in good shape?

what about the front suspension? it hit on the curb parallel too. though, the rear took most of the impact since the rear hit the curb first, then the front.

and there's no VISUAL damage on teins. should i check it further? those are tein flex.

thanks again,
jeff

As far as the subframe goes, I couldn't tell whether it was bent or not when I inspected myself. It wasn't till I fixed all the visual damages and went to get an alignment and found out that the whole thing shifted. The shop maxed out camber on the damage side and still no good. Some can correct me if I am wrong on this, it'll be pretty hard to bent the subframe back. On top of that, you'll need to take out the whole subrame anyways if you were to bent it back. Why not just go for a new one? If you have subframe spacers/collars, you can actually put them in while subframe's out.

As for your suspension, looking at the pic it seems to be alrite. My stock suspension was really bent out of shape, so it was something I can see. If anything, you'll know when the subframe is straight/new. When I had the incident, it took me a couple weeks to fix things. First I thought it was just the a-arm/rlca. Then found out that toe arm busted too. Then when I finally had it on jack, my upright was cracked in half. Then after I sourced everything, I found out my stock suspension was no good. After I sourced a-arm/rlca, toe arm, upright, suspension, and all went in... I found out my subframe shifted... So, you'll need to fix one thing to actually see what else are broken too! And I only hit the rear passenger side! As far as front suspension parts. I think you mentioned a couple good ones to check. Personally I would worry about the tie rod, flca, t/c rod, and all else that the wheel rotate on. Hubs, and things like that. BTW, my rear hub was busted too.