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SuicidnS13
04-03-2011, 01:55 PM
Well guys after my 5th attempt at a 240 I think its time for a serious break as I now have 2 kids, a new photography business exploding into success as I keep stealing my wifes TL more and more just to go on a photoshoot since all my gear doesnt fit in my ride. I dont have room for another car to park either. So I either have to make due or move on.

I really have no clue where to start as an asking price for this car. Its got a ton of work currently going into it.

Heres a spec sheet off the top of my head:

1995 240sx
125k On the Chassis
20K on the Sr20det Setup if that

Engine:
S13 SR20det
18g turbo
HKS SSQV
Enthalpy Tune
550's
All basic bolt ons
Z32 Maf
ect...

Wheels/Suspension: (Pretty basic setup)
Wed Kranze ER-M's (18 x 9.5+13 / 18 x 10.5 +3)
Kbee Coilovers Coilovers (Japanese - KBEE (http://www.kbee.jp/japan/japan.html))
Z32 Brakes
Steel Braided Lines
Ruca's in the rear
Tension arms in the front

Aero and Paint:
Ings +1 Aero
Custom Pearl White Paint (Pink and Green Pearls) (4k Paint job)

Interior:
Pretty much stock S14 setup

Its an ultra clean example of an old man owned and driven S14 with money in it. The only real body scarring is on the rear aero showed in my photos below. So guys how much would it be worth in this open market??? In some of the pictures below the front bumper was not mounted on all the way thus why its hanging a little below the fender.

This car has over 15k invested easily. I was hoping to sell her for around 10k. Help me out guys!!! Is she worth that? With and with out wheels price opinions also....


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5070/5556937577_960eb5532e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5556937577/)S14 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5556937577/) by SuicidnS13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/suicidns13/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5067/5559536186_d09eb0de73_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5559536186/)S14 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5559536186/) by SuicidnS13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/suicidns13/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5527902558_0fe3135de7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5527902558/)After Polish (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5527902558/) by SuicidnS13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/suicidns13/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/5525004723_0deaeea677_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5525004723/)Andrews s14 updates (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5525004723/) by SuicidnS13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/suicidns13/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5288/5264862124_9c00f6aa35_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5264862124/)The new S14 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5264862124/) by SuicidnS13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/suicidns13/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/5264862250_637787c3ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5264862250/)The new S14 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suicidns13/5264862250/) by SuicidnS13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/suicidns13/), on Flickr

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/SuicidnS13/s14interior.jpg

tqstarburst
04-03-2011, 02:59 PM
Don't do it!! Just keep her in storage till your kids grow up and pass it to them!

SuicidnS13
04-03-2011, 03:05 PM
Well the unfortunate part is that I really only have a few thousand available to replace her with. And that just isnt enough for a reliable daily driven vehicle. Plus storage costs for a safe car port in vegas runs almost as much as a small car payment. Im really trying to avoid adding any new bills during this economic recovery time. Id rather either just keep her and deal with it or move on and possibly come back to it once finances allow me to have a 240 and a nice/practical/reliable daily driver. I cant exactly roll up to a $5,000 wedding/fashion photoshoot in a 240sx ya know. Or a 1994 honda accord either.... LOL Im thinking a VIP styled Lexus GS, LS or a Q45 as I can have a decently put together one in the low teens. Im trying to stay away from another financed vehicle to be responsible for as well as a mortgage.

icedsole
04-03-2011, 03:14 PM
your car is pretty nice. try and put it up on VSC forums for trade, if you want a luxury car.

WanganRunner
04-03-2011, 04:55 PM
I'd say this is definitely worth at least $10k, at least it would be around here.

Make sure buyers know they can finance this with either E-Loan or a Prosper personal loan.

Broadfield
04-03-2011, 05:27 PM
I'm thinking $10k, maybe less. However, I am way too picky. So take what I say with a grain of salt. Personally, all I would care about is the quality of the paint job and the quality of the interior... the parts list doesn't mean too much to me monetarily. Unless they just happen to be the parts that I personally would put on it. If you had REALLY good paint, then I would mark it over $10k. And really mint interior would raise that figure even more. However, I'm sure there is only a handful of users on here that would pay substantially more if it had a very high quality paint job and mint interior... so that's a good thing for you.

ixfxi
04-03-2011, 06:02 PM
Well the unfortunate part is that I really only have a few thousand available to replace her with. And that just isnt enough for a reliable daily driven vehicle. Plus storage costs for a safe car port in vegas runs almost as much as a small car payment. Im really trying to avoid adding any new bills during this economic recovery time. Id rather either just keep her and deal with it or move on and possibly come back to it once finances allow me to have a 240 and a nice/practical/reliable daily driver. I cant exactly roll up to a $5,000 wedding/fashion photoshoot in a 240sx ya know. Or a 1994 honda accord either.... LOL Im thinking a VIP styled Lexus GS, LS or a Q45 as I can have a decently put together one in the low teens. Im trying to stay away from another financed vehicle to be responsible for as well as a mortgage.

ah the woes of getting older

and the difficulties in cutting your losses in becoming a grown adult. how one could even consider putting down a lowly honda accord when they only have a few g's tucked away for those rainy days. and yet, with all that humbleness... you desire a VIP car. its almost as if you have no idea what VIP stands for.

just goes to show that the people with expensive cars, usually front and really have no money.

WISH ONE
04-03-2011, 06:55 PM
Easy 10k! awesome car and awesome owner.
This car has been babied and very well taken care of.

SuicidnS13
04-03-2011, 07:34 PM
ah the woes of getting older

and the difficulties in cutting your losses in becoming a grown adult. how one could even consider putting down a lowly honda accord when they only have a few g's tucked away for those rainy days. and yet, with all that humbleness... you desire a VIP car. its almost as if you have no idea what VIP stands for.

just goes to show that the people with expensive cars, usually front and really have no money.

lol the few G's tucked away is specifically for a car. I have a ton more for the family to survive. It makes no financial sense to hurt personal savibgs on a car purchase or to purchase another new car which just depreciates. trust me you dont raise a single income family, pay a 2600.00 a month mortgage living check to check. a vip styled car is just a look. i could easily qualify for a new 50k car but why....

towlie
04-03-2011, 07:40 PM
Now it sounds like you can easily afford to keep it.

Hrmmm...

unlegendary
04-03-2011, 07:43 PM
how does your wife feel about driving your s14 to her work? is she down? hahahaha.

SuicidnS13
04-03-2011, 07:53 PM
how does your wife feel about driving your s14 to her work? is she down? hahahaha.

LOL i never said I couldnt afford it. All i asked was how much is worth? And my wife does not work. I bought us the TL as a grocery getter/ reliable family transporter. We always have atleast 1 new car. It just doesnt make sense for a single income family to have 2 financed cars really. My wife onky drives to the store and for personal matters. I mean ive been building and selling my cars for years. Thus my custom cars actually havent cost much to build as I sell em for a great return on my investment.

So I could sell the 240 and use the cash in conjunction with my 6000.00 in the "moma dont know" account to purchase something else a little more practical to use as a day to day personal vehicle. Or I could put a large downpayment on a new car. Id prefer not adding a second payment. I live by the rule of 6 months of emergency funds worth of bills in savings as a minimum.

SuicidnS13
04-03-2011, 07:58 PM
Easy 10k! awesome car and awesome owner.
This car has been babied and very well taken care of.

Thanks for a positive vouche.... LOL

Future240
04-03-2011, 08:34 PM
I would want to say 10K as well but I think it would take a while to sell. You car is more or less complete there are a lot of less complete cars with SR's and RB's for cheaper. Not a lot of people can appreciat such a well done car these days.

fliprayzin240sx
04-04-2011, 12:31 AM
So wait...I thought your car was black and what the hell happened to the VS-KFs???

omgRWDgoodness!
04-04-2011, 12:55 AM
Just go easy on the drift tax.

SuicidnS13
04-04-2011, 01:06 AM
So wait...I thought your car was black and what the hell happened to the VS-KFs???

I sold the 2jz black s14 last year Ray. Vskfs went with the package.

illvialuver
04-04-2011, 01:24 AM
so how much did it hurt you to type this?

Drifting-pedobear
04-04-2011, 02:04 AM
wtf 10k rukiddingme??


id say like 9k tops. definitely 8k.

Witness
04-04-2011, 02:23 AM
sell the motor, sell the wheels, sell the coils then the car with a ka for 5-6 the 240sx community is a horrible place to sell things at.

fliprayzin240sx
04-04-2011, 02:34 AM
I say $5K so you can sell it to me and I can throw all my shit into it. Hell, I'll even give you the SR back...

HAWAII
04-04-2011, 03:09 AM
the SR is probably hurting you more than helping out on the sale. sell the SR and get the KA back. you can probably get 8.5 the most. cars are horrible investments.

Om1kron
04-04-2011, 04:22 AM
I'll probably be the first one to tell you the aero looks like shit, regardless of who makes it.

Given the broken piece in the interior, your dash looks uncracked so the interior besides that looks a-ok. 60 bucks, replace it an don't be a ner ner and break it again.

when you say z32 brakes, do you mean front, do you mean rear, fully converted with a working e-brake, etc. Be more specific.

I paid 8300 for my car with a damn near dead KA that wouldn't pass smog on it's own. But it also had my wheels, the diff, the kouki conversion, the 5 lug conversion, the front and rear lights, a body kit, carbon hood, aero (not the vertex) kaaz 2way, jic suspension rear strut tower bar, cusco front sway. 400 dollars worth of greddy gauges, wilwood bbk setup.

In the end I paid for the parts that were on the car, and the car was thrown in as a bonus.

You have a working sr20 swap and as long as it's not throwing codes and a good dyno down you could probably get at least 10k for that car. It's not the taste of many people here. But a lot of these dumbshits just buy crap and don't know what goes with what and compensate with shit wheels, hella flush fitment and roof racks then post when they can't figure out why the car wont shut off after installing a key ring light or something.

so I'm with broadfield. 10k

ManoNegra
04-04-2011, 08:43 AM
minus:
cracked, misaligned bodykit pieces - big turnoff
s13 SR in an S14 - personal pet peeve
zenki tails on a conversion
no pic of engine bay nor interior

plus
decent, not great, list of parts

assuming everything works like it should
~9 - 10k sounds like a decent price

WanganRunner
04-04-2011, 08:49 AM
Also, your best bet is probably NOT selling it on Zilvia.

Put it on Craigslist or eBay.

SuicidnS13
04-04-2011, 10:23 AM
Thanks alot guys! Im honestly happy knowing its worth close to 10k. I know I probably wont get that for her in these times, thus why I think Im just gonna hold onto her. All the broken pieces in the interior have also been replaced since those pics were taken. I really dont want to get rid of her so Ill probably just end up putting 50-80% down on a used LS430 just for the time being. I had a hell of a time selling our Rb25 Vert for freakin 6500.00 on here LOL... I watch all the high dollar car sale threads lasting months at a time. It may just be easier to part her out if/when the time comes....

ixfxi
04-04-2011, 10:34 AM
lol the few G's tucked away is specifically for a car. I have a ton more for the family to survive. It makes no financial sense to hurt personal savibgs on a car purchase or to purchase another new car which just depreciates. trust me you dont raise a single income family, pay a 2600.00 a month mortgage living check to check. a vip styled car is just a look. i could easily qualify for a new 50k car but why....

It just doesnt make sense for a single income family to have 2 financed cars really. My wife onky drives to the store and for personal matters.Thus my custom cars actually havent cost much to build as I sell em for a great return on my investment.

So I could sell the 240 and use the cash in conjunction with my 6000.00 in the "moma dont know" account to purchase something else a little more practical to use as a day to day personal vehicle. Or I could put a large downpayment on a new car. Id prefer not adding a second payment.

oh come on. i probably will come off as a dick but serious, grow some. i mean, you make a thread about how much your car is worth, as if people should have some understanding as to what is in your car and the condition its in. then you want a normal car but it cant be too normal, it has to be on pseudo-balller status fake VIP bullshit. then you have a "wife-unaware" bank account. i mean come on, be a fucking man and do what the fuck you want to do. i dont sit here and have family meetings and check on finances, etc etc. as a man, you pay your bills and thats that - what do you need to check and approve for? handle your business.

and then selling cars at a profit imo, is bullshit. no one makes a "great profit" on selling these piece of shit old ass nissans. i love them, but fuck. often times i think how much you guys sound like gamblers trying to win.. and you guys dont win shit.

here is what i see, i see a person who their car isnt cutting it for them anymore and they're creating a covertly titled interest thread, to see if people will actually buy it or make a good offer. too much thinking aloud. plus, no one knows if its been in an accident or had any sort of repair due to collisions. first thing i think about when i see a body-kitted whore is that she must have had some accident and they chose the aftermarket route because its cheaper, hence the reason you make great returns on your investments. like others have said, the s13 motor is less expensive so again, better return on your investment.

i am not going to say the car is worthless or trash, because it could be a good average car for some 18 year old. but dont go trying to sell it as anything special because it looks like its been around.


minus:
cracked, misaligned bodykit pieces - big turnoff
s13 SR in an S14 - personal pet peeve
zenki tails on a conversion
no pic of engine bay nor interior

plus
decent, not great, list of parts

assuming everything works like it should
~9 - 10k sounds like a decent price

^ agreed, fully.

blueshark123
04-04-2011, 10:45 AM
I actually made lots of profits on my 240s in the past i bought a s14 for 900 sold it 1 month late with kouki sideskirts for 3000 then another fro 1600 sold it for 3200. But on my project 240 i know i will never make my money back but im happy still cause i dont wanna sell it and i dont need that money. This is besides all the stock 240's i have parted for lots of money

SuicidnS13
04-04-2011, 11:42 AM
oh come on. i probably will come off as a dick but serious, grow some. i mean, you make a thread about how much your car is worth, as if people should have some understanding as to what is in your car and the condition its in. then you want a normal car but it cant be too normal, it has to be on pseudo-balller status fake VIP bullshit. then you have a "wife-unaware" bank account. i mean come on, be a fucking man and do what the fuck you want to do. i dont sit here and have family meetings and check on finances, etc etc. as a man, you pay your bills and thats that - what do you need to check and approve for? handle your business.

and then selling cars at a profit imo, is bullshit. no one makes a "great profit" on selling these piece of shit old ass nissans. i love them, but fuck. often times i think how much you guys sound like gamblers trying to win.. and you guys dont win shit.

here is what i see, i see a person who their car isnt cutting it for them anymore and they're creating a covertly titled interest thread, to see if people will actually buy it or make a good offer. too much thinking aloud. plus, no one knows if its been in an accident or had any sort of repair due to collisions. first thing i think about when i see a body-kitted whore is that she must have had some accident and they chose the aftermarket route because its cheaper, hence the reason you make great returns on your investments. like others have said, the s13 motor is less expensive so again, better return on your investment.

i am not going to say the car is worthless or trash, because it could be a good average car for some 18 year old. but dont go trying to sell it as anything special because it looks like its been around.




^ agreed, fully.



I actually enjoyed this post in comparison to your previous post. You are right, it is a thread to check interest and worth. Thus why its titled as so. I do man up brotha, let me tell you as I am over 30 years old. Having a succesful marriage is about compromise and understanding. Sometimes women just dont understand certain purchases. Id rather just avoid the argument altogether and have a slightly seperate spending account. What works for me may not work for you... Plain and simple....

I know nothing about you or your personal standings nor do you about me. So please, dont be so quick to throw out assumptions and Ill do the same for you. I dont see how reading for 2 minutes, 2 paragraphs about a car, you see "what you see" about me..... If Im not mistaken you own ClearCorners.com, you make innovative products and Ive even purchased some of them. Thats all I know about you.... Thats alot more than you know about me...

Also I dont think your a dick, just blunt, real and to the point. I respect that...

SuicidnS13
04-04-2011, 11:57 AM
I actually made lots of profits on my 240s in the past i bought a s14 for 900 sold it 1 month late with kouki sideskirts for 3000 then another fro 1600 sold it for 3200. But on my project 240 i know i will never make my money back but im happy still cause i dont wanna sell it and i dont need that money. This is besides all the stock 240's i have parted for lots of money


As have I.... Its the larger builds you tend to loose out on.

ManoNegra
04-04-2011, 01:35 PM
I actually made lots of profits on my 240s in the past i bought a s14 for 900 sold it 1 month late with kouki sideskirts for 3000 then another fro 1600 sold it for 3200. But on my project 240 i know i will never make my money back but im happy still cause i dont wanna sell it and i dont need that money. This is besides all the stock 240's i have parted for lots of money

Yes, there's always people that do come up
but you must understand this is far the exception than the norm
99% of the time you loose at least a third of your investment(?) in a car

fuck, a friend of mine just go the 240 deal of a of lifetime
doesn't mean I should expect the same

SuicidnS13
04-04-2011, 01:39 PM
Yes, there's always people that do come up
but you must understand this is far the exception than the norm
99% of the time you loose at least a third of your investment(?) in a car

fuck, a friend of mine just go the 240 deal of a of lifetime
doesn't mean I should expect the same

exactly... its much cheaper to buy built than it is to build em....

ixfxi
04-04-2011, 07:29 PM
I actually enjoyed this post in comparison to your previous post. You are right, it is a thread to check interest and worth.

Also I dont think your a dick, just blunt, real and to the point. I respect that...

the way i see it, if you're going to make a move and try to sell your car - then clean her up nice and step forward, put her up for sale. its your duty to make your calculations, itemize your parts and how much you paid for them, labor costs, maintenance, etc... i keep records of everything and when i sell them, it helps demand that price. if you dont do that, you subject yourself to the low-balling fucks of the world. the vagrants of the marketplace, if you will.

so, you can part out your car.. which would be a big shame. or you can do your homework and provide the specs that people crave. put it in the for sale section, have a carfax linked up and try to show whether or not the car has been in any accidents or collisions, and whether or not they were properly repaired. thats what i would look for, if i was out to buy your car. and that is what i recommend, if you plan on attracting any serious buyers (people with actual bank accounts).

as for your VIP car request, i just personally think thats pretentious. if you want a vip car, buy it or build it, whatever. but the whole appearance of a vip car is silly if you have to sit here and justify spending money. unless your name is scrooge mcduck, its like.. why bother mentioning vip car. go on club lexus and you see a bunch of tools who front like they have money. all they have are old ass over-priced toyotas. i dunno, vip style is overrated and i'm just spouting off with my opinion. pay it no mind i guess.


Yes, there's always people that do come up
but you must understand this is far the exception than the norm
99% of the time you loose at least a third of your investment(?) in a car

what people fail to remember is their time invested in constantly searching to acquire parts. when you do the math, add up labor and hours, you realize and say to youself "shit.. im not making much here at 10 bucks an hour!"

as a whole, i think mechanically and technically skilled individuals are under-valued in this country. we rely too much on doctors and lawyers, etc... folks with degrees. we've forgotten that these other professions are very necessary, welders, fabricators, etc. but anyway, i digress.

good luck with the sale

HayaiSaru
04-06-2011, 02:12 PM
You'll make more money if you part out your car completely...if you have the patience and time.

ChadMcGarity
04-07-2011, 09:03 AM
What is the second kind of wheels? THose are dope..

rebornS14
04-07-2011, 09:09 AM
id try for 8k but i think it'll be hard to get these days.

benarovi
04-07-2011, 09:13 AM
What is the second kind of wheels? THose are dope..
gtr mustang rep rims

dorkjoey240
04-07-2011, 09:15 AM
I would say 10K u should be easy like u said. Or 9K with nothing to think about it.

DenkiMan!
04-07-2011, 10:13 AM
yea id say 8 or maybe 9k realistically...its very clean

S14Serge
04-07-2011, 12:33 PM
Do yourself a favor bro and don't sell this car....you will def regret it later on. It's an amazing amount of work, time and money invested in this car and it shows.

SuicidnS13
04-07-2011, 12:58 PM
Yea I'm pretty sure im keeping her and just gonna store her in storage for a while.

HayaiSaru
04-07-2011, 06:22 PM
Post it up on Ebay, you never know

240Cali
02-29-2012, 02:09 AM
im taking this home tomorrow , wow

killer240
02-29-2012, 03:02 AM
i'd pay 7k-8k max i'd pay
im assuming you rebuilt the motor and put 20k miles on it
body kit not my type

although its clean