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JDM SPUG
03-31-2011, 03:32 PM
HEllo,

IDK if this is the correct section or not.

I have a question about carbon fiber hoods. I am new to the 240SX scene as i just picked up my 1991 coupe up just 2 weeks ago. MY question is I'm looking for a quality carbon fiber hood. i have owned seibon products in the past and i didn't like them. fitment was HORRIBLE it turned yellow over time (and the car was kept in the garage and was washed regularly).

What companies has anybody here had and their experience and opinions on them.

Oh, and also I'm trying to keep the flip up lights front end.

Thanks in advance.
beanerwitasr20
03-31-2011, 03:48 PM
should of posted on small questions thread
JDM SPUG
03-31-2011, 03:55 PM
should of posted on small questions thread

oh i didn't know. and where is small questions on this forum?
NickIsAZero
03-31-2011, 05:46 PM
My VIS hood fitted nice on my S14, but the hood latch never really lined up correctly. The VIS trunklid for my S14 fits pretty well, but once again could never get the trunk latch to line up. My Megan roof spoiler has terrible fitment around the sides of the glass. On a further note the VIS hood catch ripped oneday after the hood latch decided to let go and smashed my windshield and destroyed my roof.....hood pins
JDM SPUG
03-31-2011, 06:46 PM
My VIS hood fitted nice on my S14, but the hood latch never really lined up correctly. The VIS trunklid for my S14 fits pretty well, but once again could never get the trunk latch to line up. My Megan roof spoiler has terrible fitment around the sides of the glass. On a further note the VIS hood catch ripped oneday after the hood latch decided to let go and smashed my windshield and destroyed my roof.....hood pins

yea i know that VIZ is junk. and seibon as well.

i was just looking online and saw a company D-MAX CF hood but dont know if that will fade over time.

Does anybody here have a D-MAX hood?
NickIsAZero
03-31-2011, 06:50 PM
yea i know that VIZ is junk. and seibon as well.

i was just looking online and saw a company D-MAX CF hood but dont know if that will fade over time.

Does anybody here have a D-MAX hood?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all carbon fiber parts will fade over time. Just like painted surfaces will.... That's why they highly recommend re-clearing them yearly.
JDM SPUG
03-31-2011, 07:01 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all carbon fiber parts will fade over time. Just like painted surfaces will.... That's why they highly recommend re-clearing them yearly.

wrong. i also own a subaru and know a lot more about those cars but for example. VARIS carbon fiber is amazing. i know somebody that has a CF trunk on his sti. he had the car sit outside in the sun all last summer and it stay out side. the thing looks as good as it did when he bought it. its just companies like vis and seibon aren't good quality. so that why i started this thread to maybe see if there are any companies that offer CF for 240's that don't make any parts for subarus.
s13silvia123
03-31-2011, 07:13 PM
all reisen on fiberglass and carbon fiber will turn yellow due to UV light or other types of reisen that needs UV light to harden it. I've worked on a lot of types of reisen in the past and UV light causes it. if the carbon fiber hood does not have a layer of UV protectant on it, it will turn yellow. its suppose to reflect UV light from the reisen to absorb it.
JDM SPUG
03-31-2011, 07:15 PM
all reisen on fiberglass and carbon fiber will turn yellow due to UV light or other types of reisen that needs UV light to harden it. I've worked on a lot of types of reisen in the past and UV light causes it. if the carbon fiber hood does not have a layer of UV protectant on it, it will turn yellow. its suppose to reflect UV light from the reisen to absorb it.

do you know of any companies that have a UV protectant on their hoods?
s13silvia123
03-31-2011, 07:16 PM
the ones i know are not allowed to be sold in households because they are cancerous and only for engineers to use
JDM SPUG
03-31-2011, 07:18 PM
the ones i know are not allowed to be sold in households because they are cancerous and only for engineers to use

wait what are you talking about??? i was asking about CF hood companies. lol
s13silvia123
03-31-2011, 07:33 PM
like i said
Prime
04-01-2011, 01:06 AM
He's saying that most resins are degraded by exposure to UV light. Most companies do not use resins that are UV stable. The reason is less that they can't purchase them, and usually more that they're very expensive/have short shelf life. So instead, the companies tend to rely on conventional clearcoat for UV resistance. That's pretty much the long and short of it. I used to sell commercial-level resin systems, so I've got a good amount of knowledge on the subject. When you get into Industrial/Aerospace grade stuff it gets even wilder.

The long and short of it is, unless your parts were clearcoated with a high-quality UV filtering paint, they will fade. I'd ask the companies directly or consult their websites. Otherwise, have it done yourself. It'll save you the headache in the long run.
JDM SPUG
04-01-2011, 05:22 AM
He's saying that most resins are degraded by exposure to UV light. Most companies do not use resins that are UV stable. The reason is less that they can't purchase them, and usually more that they're very expensive/have short shelf life. So instead, the companies tend to rely on conventional clearcoat for UV resistance. That's pretty much the long and short of it. I used to sell commercial-level resin systems, so I've got a good amount of knowledge on the subject. When you get into Industrial/Aerospace grade stuff it gets even wilder.

The long and short of it is, unless your parts were clearcoated with a high-quality UV filtering paint, they will fade. I'd ask the companies directly or consult their websites. Otherwise, have it done yourself. It'll save you the headache in the long run.

ok thanks and good info.
ManoNegra
04-01-2011, 08:29 AM
paint the parts = problem solved
or are you guys mostly into it for the looks?
JDM SPUG
04-01-2011, 08:48 AM
paint the parts = problem solved
or are you guys mostly into it for the looks?

The stock hood is too heavy
Touge Whore
04-01-2011, 09:11 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think ManoNegra is referring to painting your carbon hood. He's saying it won't fade quickly if you paint it.
JDM SPUG
04-01-2011, 09:24 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think ManoNegra is referring to painting your carbon hood. He's saying it won't fade quickly if you paint it.

I want to get for the CF look as well or I wouldn't mind a carbon kevlar hood. Does anybody know of any companies that make carbon kevlar hoods for an S13?
Prime
04-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think ManoNegra is referring to painting your carbon hood. He's saying it won't fade quickly if you paint it.

It won't fade at all, if you paint it.

This is a Jay Leno/Corvette vid, but check the link to get an idea of what I'm talking about here... you only need to watch from 1:38-2:00 and the link starts you right there.
YouTube - Jay Leno's Garage - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpunhO_bBe8&t=1m38s)

I want to get for the CF look as well or I wouldn't mind a carbon kevlar hood. Does anybody know of any companies that make carbon kevlar hoods for an S13?
carbonfiberhoods.com
No joke. Dunno about quality, as I've never seen one. But they're out there.