SR23DET 700hp plus build ***DAFOEDE***

[whereda40at]

This is my 2.35L sr stroker build that has been an on going process for a couple years. A quick run down of what the major parts are, I don't want to bore you with all the small b/s mods. The pics can be found on a well know dsm builders facebook page. Precision psi. The car will be tuned on E85 by Ray at Mid-Atlantic Motorsports.
Right now we are only shooting for 700hp. Then later in the year i will sleve the block and go for around 850hp.

The first link is my facebook album of the before pics. The second link is the after.

more pics are on both facebooks.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5022/5574406466_48e8040d21.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5574406466/)
198911_1922239704027_1483115145_2226786_112437_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5574406466/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5105/5573819021_2cf746bc61.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573819021/)
196616_1922121781079_1483115145_2226704_4400314_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573819021/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5574406250_266c79d195.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5574406250/)
188732_1922117260966_1483115145_2226697_262638_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5574406250/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5264/5573818103_c5c98f45eb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818103/)
189902_1922110420795_1483115145_2226685_6435283_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818103/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
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The major modds are as follows.
2.35 brian crower stroker kit
b/w S366 .88 a/r
f.i.c. 2150cc injectors
fully built race head
280 kelford cams
powerlab twin scroll twin gate manifold
2 mv-s 44mm wastegates
mazworx fuel rail
precision 850hp intercooler core

[Tae-Hyun]

Links says you have to log on??

[whereda40at]

just log into you facebook and you will be good. its worth it

[Bullet01]

Oh piss off and just post the pics in the thread YOU created.

[whereda40at]

just log in and you can see all the pics on both

[blueshark123]

no facebook this is gay

[whereda40at]

http://zilvia.net/f/C:\Users\chris tarr\Pictures\dafoede stripped.jpg

[holemilk00]

This thread breaks almost all the rules. No external links, no build threads, no no no no no. Lock it up.

[tricky_ab]

It's a shame it's going to get locked as this looks interesting...

[Magical Trevor]

Hey homie, get your premium membership so you can post your build thread in there. I'm interested to see how this turns out.

[ixfxi]

your car is gonna blow up before you ever see the likings of 700hp

[jholman]

I love build threads that actually have info...their awesome....this one is a little sad...lol

[whereda40at]

i have a build thread already but is about 2 years old, didnt want to resurect a old dead thread. This car is going for the 67mm true street class record so if you want to follow or not is up to you. The car is going to be fast. the end goal is 8.90's

[gtrmonkey]

facebook is for wankers

[Nick_04K]

Your all dicks. This man says he's going to have a sleeved/stroked 850hp SR.

Im down to watch this build. Why aren't you?

^ And actually have info? Are you kidding bro? These cars and the motors inside them have been modded to fuck by EVERYONE and their little sister. How much NEW information can a drag spec SR20 powered S-Chassis build really contain?

Besides, this just barely got started, stop busting his balls already.

Everyone around here knows that if your build thread is going to be worth a flying fuck it won't get locked. There are many examples you could find with a simple search.

The "no build threads" rule is really only in place to keep jank cars, with no progress out of here.

IXFXI- Please explain why you believe his engine will blow up before hitting his 700hp mark.

[holemilk00]

^^^ actually the no build thread rule just came into effect at the beginning of the month, and it goes for all builds, not just those that are not janky.

[240_SeX]

Not everyone has submitted to the high school kid bullshit gossip queen childrens fad that is social networking.

And I must agree, if you're too lazy to post pictures of YOUR OWN car in YOUR OWN thread than how successful can your pipe dream build be?

[word sux]

ma motorsports is the shit


ray is a cool as fuck. his volvo will rape most of your cars lol


can't wait to see how this turns out if it dosn't get locked

[whereda40at]

Not everyone has submitted to the high school kid bullshit gossip queen childrens fad that is social networking.

And I must agree, if you're too lazy to post pictures of YOUR OWN car in YOUR OWN thread than how successful can your pipe dream build be?

well figure i would rather spend my time working on the car to get the progress done rather than sit online and post pics and watch gay ass drifting videos. I simply upload my progress to mine and builders facebook cause it is fast and easy. I'm far from lazy, i have already set one record and beat it by a 1/2 second.

Really if you want me to i can just start posting in my thread from 2 years ago. I'm just sharing info with other 240 owners who may want to look at it. If you don't feel like logging into your facebook and clicking one link, I think you just might be the lazy one. It's more than just social networking now, its also business related.

[Jybfan04]

I like Zilvia, but one thing this site lacks is plenty of build threads for people to spend countless hours getting an idea of what does and doesn't work for SR's and a specific Dyno forum. It would be nice if Zilvia had a sub forum dedicated to just dyno charts where users can post topics regarding their dynos...

[whereda40at]

ma motorsports is the shit


ray is a cool as fuck. his volvo will rape most of your cars lol


can't wait to see how this turns out if it dosn't get locked

Ray can't wait to get his hands on my car. I told him to keep the dyno open so that I can let him work his magic.

[Jybfan04]

Ray can't wait to get his hands on my car. I told him to keep the dyno open so that I can let him work his magic.


Your motor isn't currently sleeved?

Who built your motor and or did the machine work?

Whats the specs on the current internals?

[Highway Riding]

Sounds sweet but alot of us aren't on facebook. Post more if ya can. GL

[whereda40at]

Your motor isn't currently sleeved?

Who built your motor and or did the machine work?

Whats the specs on the current internals?

No it's not sleeved at the moment

Extreme motorsports built the bottom end right before they caught fire in 2008.

brian crower 2.35L stroker kit fully balanced crank.

[h2v7]

u can hit 1000hp mark with stock internals

[Jybfan04]

No it's not sleeved at the moment

Extreme motorsports built the bottom end right before they caught fire in 2008.

brian crower 2.35L stroker kit fully balanced crank.


Extreme Motorsports????

Where are they located, I know your in MD I remember seeing your car at Imports vs Domestics!

[whereda40at]

Extreme Motorsports????

Where are they located, I know your in MD I remember seeing your car at Imports vs Domestics!

they were in crofton, md. One of the guys who worked there opened up his own shop in broklynn park called precision psi. its mainly a dsm shop but mine has become the shop whore in the past 36 hours. Yeah that was me at imports vs. domestics. video of that race is on youtube "tarr killing a domestic"

[Nick_04K]

The one thing i really do agree on is no facebook link. I don't have a facebook. And i honestly don't plan on ever getting one. Sorry bro

And what is your realistic time line? Will this be a tuned 700whp machine in two months? Three months?

[Jybfan04]

they were in crofton, md. One of the guys who worked there opened up his own shop in broklynn park called precision psi. its mainly a dsm shop but mine has become the shop whore in the past 36 hours. Yeah that was me at imports vs. domestics. video of that race is on youtube "tarr killing a mullet"


Gotcha, you said its in Brooklyn park? Thats somewhere in MD?

[whereda40at]

The one thing i really do agree on is no facebook link. I don't have a facebook. And i honestly don't plan on ever getting one. Sorry bro

And what is your realistic time line? Will this be a tuned 700whp machine in two months? Three months?

car will be tuned by april 9th. first event of the year is on the 10th. so it is crunch time. car is going to fly together. i will have more and better pics up as the week goes on. If someone wants to post up the ones I havent put up, feel free.

[whereda40at]

Gotcha, you said its in Brooklyn park? Thats somewhere in MD?

yeah its just south of baltimore by about 1/2 mile

[Jybfan04]

yeah its just south of baltimore by about 1/2 mile


Gotcha, found the facebook page no pics...

[ETHANOLED SR]

I apologize ahead of time incase I missed something but my question to you is:

How do you have a bottom end with a 2.35L BC stroker kit in it without sleeves? :eek2:
Who would machine an SR20 block with 90mm Pistons (that's 4mm over) without sleeving it?
Even if this is possible, why? Why would you build a block without sleeves and have plans on sleeving again later. I'm really lost here and confused?
I'd like to see some pics on here as well dude. It sounds like an interesting build!
But I'm sitting here scratching my head in confusion!!!

[whereda40at]

Gotcha, found the facebook page no pics...

pics are on there. its the black 240 with red stripped interior and just a motor lol
I apologize ahead of time incase I missed something but my question to you is:

How do you have a bottom end with a 2.35L BC stroker kit in it without sleeves? :eek2:
Who would machine an SR20 block with 90mm Pistons (that's 4mm over) without sleeving it?
Even if this is possible, why? Why would you build a block without sleeves and have plans on sleeving again later. I'm really lost here and confused?
I'd like to see some pics on here as well dude. It sounds like an interesting build!
But I'm sitting here scratching my head in confusion!!!

I built the bottom end in 2008 and it was my first built motor. I didn't know about sleeves. Back then I never had the intention of going over 600hp but now that im older and the compition is more fierce, I am rolling with it for now and then going to just put the sleeves in when the funds are there. I will have more pics up after i get home from work tonight.

[lewisfk]

what the fuck is up with this facebook garbage! close the damn thread!

[Magical Trevor]

How the hell is this thread STILL up? Facebook links? Build thread in the chat? Lock it up!

[whereda40at]

where do the build threads go then? i have never seen a section for builds, nor have i heard so many whinny bitches in one place,

here are some more pics and new ones will be up saturday morning.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/5574406126_bb08589d76.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5574406126/)199311_1922116580949_1483115145_2226696_1783148_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5574406126/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5573818571_868f8fc662.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818571/)199599_1922112340843_1483115145_2226690_993622_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818571/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5573818465_7357bc5992.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818465/)197220_1922111660826_1483115145_2226688_5536695_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818465/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5573818343_809fabbde5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818343/)206913_1922111180814_1483115145_2226687_6568171_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818343/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5251/5573818247_2f36f1d1e9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818247/)198528_1922110940808_1483115145_2226686_7900879_n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5573818247/) by dafoede (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

[Magical Trevor]

where do the build threads go then? i have never seen a section for builds, nor have i heard so many whinny bitches in one place.

Go back and read the rules bud.

Build threads:
Almost everyone enjoys building their cars and sharing that experience, as well as checking out others' builds for inspiration. Sadly, far too many users have a tendency to do half-hearted builds and either rarely update or update with trivial progress. In the interest of keeping the Chat forum clear of three hundred 'Install SR, ziptie aero, rattlecan paint' threads, incomplete, or in-progress build threads are not allowed. If you have completed your build, wrangle all those pictures into a post and tell us about it, but make sure the build is finalized. If you insist on having an in-progress build, Premium members have a specialized subforum for that specific purpose.

[ixfxi]

Your all dicks. This man says he's going to have a sleeved/stroked 850hp SR.

Im down to watch this build. Why aren't you?

IXFXI- Please explain why you believe his engine will blow up before hitting his 700hp mark.

i have a few reasons why i think this car isnt shit

for one, i doubt practically everyone and everything i see. i'm a hater, and i believe that most people are full of shit. maybe if the OP was an engineer for NASA or something. but with the name "whereda40at" i doubt he works for BOEING

two, i dont see any quality in this thread. I just hear a lot of bullshit, like 291hp/liter

three, i've been around long enough to know that builds, all of them, require nothing but insane amounts of planning and engineering. you know, spreadsheets, big shop space, storage space, skill and dedication.

what do i see here? none of that.

plus, i think its absolutely moronic to attempt to extract this amount of power from a piece of shit nissan motor.

listen guys, you want some power.. hang some balls out and install a real powerhouse motor, not some piece of shit 2 liter, reinforced this, 300zx transmission that.. thats all mickey mouse bullshit. at least broadfield has it right going LS, the proper motor for that type of application. even a 2jz-gte would make me say "okay.. possible."

its probably not impossible to get 700+ hp out of an SR, i just think its stupid. i can just see it now:

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.."
"yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET



...and the facebook link sucks too. social networking tomfoolery.

[Magical Trevor]

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.." "yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET

This.

SR20NOPOWERBANDDET

[whereda40at]

i have a few reasons why i think this car isnt shit

for one, i doubt practically everyone and everything i see. i'm a hater, and i believe that most people are full of shit. maybe if the OP was an engineer for NASA or something. but with the name "whereda40at" i doubt he works for BOEING

two, i dont see any quality in this thread. I just hear a lot of bullshit, like 291hp/liter

three, i've been around long enough to know that builds, all of them, require nothing but insane amounts of planning and engineering. you know, spreadsheets, big shop space, storage space, skill and dedication.

what do i see here? none of that.

plus, i think its absolutely moronic to attempt to extract this amount of power from a piece of shit nissan motor.

listen guys, you want some power.. hang some balls out and install a real powerhouse motor, not some piece of shit 2 liter, reinforced this, 300zx transmission that.. thats all mickey mouse bullshit. at least broadfield has it right going LS, the proper motor for that type of application. even a 2jz-gte would make me say "okay.. possible."

its probably not impossible to get 700+ hp out of an SR, i just think its stupid. i can just see it now:

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.."
"yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET



...and the facebook link sucks too. social networking tomfoolery.

i really do think that i have become dumber after reading what you just posted. You can make just over 700 in a sr without sleeveing the block. No I don't work for nasa, i work in a warehouse. But the guy that is working on my car is bad ass with imports and has built a couple of evo's that hold world records. So before you hop on my thread and TRY to start bashing shit, do some home work. Read my old threads, this car has been around for a while and will continue to be around. Go take your v8 power and grow a mullet off your ass hair and get your trailer trash redneck inbread ass off my thread. Thank you and have a pleasent day.

[slow92]

Whereda40at,

dont listen to all of the hate. Keep doing what you are doing. I have the same power goals in mind except I am going to use a 2.2l big bore motor from mazworx. I just don't understand why everyone with a 240 thinks you should have instant boost and sliding around corners, to each his own. If this thread gets locked please post a video of the finished product on the dyno, cause I want to see the boost curve with that turbo cause I am going to use it as well.

Keep up the good work

[Darren]

Whereda40at,

dont listen to all of the hate. Keep doing what you are doing. I have the same power goals in mind except I am going to use a 2.2l big bore motor from mazworx. I just don't understand why everyone with a 240 thinks you should have instant boost and sliding around corners, to each his own. If this thread gets locked please post a video of the finished product on the dyno, cause I want to see the boost curve with that turbo cause I am going to use it as well.

Keep up the good work

Because driving a lag monster sucks donkey cock.... IMO

[Magical Trevor]

Go take your v8 power and grow a mullet off your ass hair and get your trailer trash redneck inbread ass off my thread. Thank you and have a pleasent day.
Why does a V8 have to be trailer trash redneck? Pretty sure an AMG 6.3L V8 isn't redneck... nor is a BMW V8? A 700whp SR is hardly fun to drive and isn't "reliable" by any means. Unless you mean that it can make a few runs on the dyno and spend 90% of it's engine life at 10% of it's peak power.. then sure.

[ixfxi]

Funny. I am not suggesting an LS V8 as the end-all motor. Actually, wait.. I also suggested a 2JZ-GTE. To clarify, I am suggesting that you take ANY larger, high-performance motor.. and built it right. Not a fucking 2.x liter toy with a massive strap-on turbo.

I love my SR20DET, but I also think its massively limited for your application.

I mean, if I was you I'de probably save my money, get a Viper, Corvette or Supra.. and beat some ass.

What I am not doing, is going to sack-ride a pipe-dream car build like some 18 year old

[statickx991]

Why does a V8 have to be trailer trash redneck? Pretty sure an AMG 6.3L V8 isn't redneck... nor is a BMW V8? A 700whp SR is hardly fun to drive and isn't "reliable" by any means. Unless you mean that it can make a few runs on the dyno and spend 90% of it's engine life at 10% of it's peak power.. then sure.
all depends on how you built it and the tune for it to be reliable.

[whereda40at]

Whereda40at,

dont listen to all of the hate. Keep doing what you are doing. I have the same power goals in mind except I am going to use a 2.2l big bore motor from mazworx. I just don't understand why everyone with a 240 thinks you should have instant boost and sliding around corners, to each his own. If this thread gets locked please post a video of the finished product on the dyno, cause I want to see the boost curve with that turbo cause I am going to use it as well.

Keep up the good work

I will have dyno videos and track videos up after the 10th. It's going to be tuned on a mustang dyno so the numbers will be low but the tune will be spot on and the 1/4 mile is what matters most to me.

Funny. I am not suggesting an LS V8 as the end-all motor. Actually, wait.. I also suggested a 2JZ-GTE. To clarify, I am suggesting that you take ANY larger, high-performance motor.. and built it right. Not a fucking 2.x liter toy with a massive strap-on turbo.

I love my SR20DET, but I also think its massively limited for your application.

I mean, if I was you I'de probably save my money, get a Viper, Corvette or Supra.. and beat some ass.

What I am not doing, is going to sack-ride a pipe-dream car build like some 18 year old

You obviously havent broaden your search about sr's making power. Do some searching as all the other people on this forum like to say and then come back. houself has a sr with big numbers that has a smaller turbo than what im running. If I wanted a V8 i would put one in. Plus you can't run a V8 in a import running in a true street class.

God, why am I even proving points to you, your fucking retarded. Did you even read what the car is built for? Its not a dyno queen, its a 1/4 slut.

[daryl337]

i have a few reasons why i think this car isnt shit

for one, i doubt practically everyone and everything i see. i'm a hater, and i believe that most people are full of shit. maybe if the OP was an engineer for NASA or something. but with the name "whereda40at" i doubt he works for BOEING

two, i dont see any quality in this thread. I just hear a lot of bullshit, like 291hp/liter

three, i've been around long enough to know that builds, all of them, require nothing but insane amounts of planning and engineering. you know, spreadsheets, big shop space, storage space, skill and dedication.

what do i see here? none of that.

plus, i think its absolutely moronic to attempt to extract this amount of power from a piece of shit nissan motor.

listen guys, you want some power.. hang some balls out and install a real powerhouse motor, not some piece of shit 2 liter, reinforced this, 300zx transmission that.. thats all mickey mouse bullshit. at least broadfield has it right going LS, the proper motor for that type of application. even a 2jz-gte would make me say "okay.. possible."

its probably not impossible to get 700+ hp out of an SR, i just think its stupid. i can just see it now:

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.."
"yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET



...and the facebook link sucks too. social networking tomfoolery.



Mazworx's would probably like to have a word with you. I'd like you to tell them to their face that the work they performed on their drag car is shit.

If you don't like tuning on Nissans, GTFO imo. You are on a Nissan forum. Don't walk into a grocery store and complain that all you see is food. Part of the fun part of being a tuner is taking an engine that was not designed to crank out large power... and make it crank out large power! Swapping small blocks into other cars =/= tuning. That only shows off your ability to stuff large stuff into small holes. Whoopdy do. :gives: I do that everynight with my girlfriend.









Darren made the point about driving lag monsters. Exactly how many 800+ hp supras do you see spool at 2500rpms? RX7's converted to single turbos are some of the spikiest power curves you can see... but its still fun.

[whereda40at]

Mazworx's would probably like to have a word with you. I'd like you to tell them to their face that the work they performed on their drag car is shit.

If you don't like tuning on Nissans, GTFO imo. You are on a Nissan forum. Don't walk into a grocery store and complain that all you see is food. Part of the fun part of being a tuner is taking an engine that was not designed to crank out large power... and make it crank out large power! Swapping small blocks into other cars =/= tuning. That only shows off your ability to stuff large stuff into small holes. Whoopdy do. :gives: I do that everynight with my girlfriend.









Darren made the point about driving lag monsters. Exactly how many 800+ hp supras do you see spool at 2500rpms? RX7's converted to single turbos are some of the spikiest power curves you can see... but its still fun.

Thank you!!!!!!!

[Pure_JDM]

your fucking retarded.

quoted for grammatical awesomeness.

[Magical Trevor]

quoted for grammatical retardedness.

Fixed for you

[Pure_JDM]

lock this piece already...

[DrIvEsldEwAyS]

how many of you shit talkers have driven anything other than a stock sr with a t28?

a big turbo SR is not unreliable or boring to drive.

[niSm095]

ha...tell em Austin...I'd love to see somethin come out of this..I'm not much on drag cars, but the Mazworx drag car is nasty.

[whereda40at]

ha...tell em Austin...I'd love to see somethin come out of this..I'm not much on drag cars, but the Mazworx drag car is nasty.

My car is sort of compariable to the s14 true street drag car from mazworx. I'm in a much lighter car and going to have around the same hp numbers as that car. Only im running a faster spooling turbo also. Like I said, the finial goal is 8.90 in the 67mm class. If need be, I will up grade to a 6765 and call it a day.

[S14kouki_10]

Finish this already so ixfxi can shut the fuck up.

[fliprayzin240sx]

how many of you shit talkers have driven anything other than a stock sr with a t28?

a big turbo SR is not unreliable or boring to drive.

A big turbo SR is not unreliable or boring to drive?!?! It is unreliable when you fucking bore it out to 90mm without fucking sleeving it!!! Yes, its boring to drive, no fucking power till you hit 5K is fucking weak sauce. Dont believe me? I fucking owned one. Its all fun and shit, if you dont plan on driving at less than 5k rpm.

Guy is fucking comparing 4G63s vs SR20s, guess he doesnt take into account that 4Gs are iron blocks vs SR20's weak aluminum block that doesnt like to be bored out more than 87mm without sleeving it.

This isnt a damn build thread...this is a hopes and dreams thread....

[japslapsilvia]

This isnt a damn build thread...this is a hopes and dreams thread....

QFT

msglngth

[ThatGuy]

This definitely isn't a build thread.

It has been left open up until this point, with the hopes that we might see some ACTUALLY BUILDING. Instead we just have speculation and conjecture about whether or not it will even work, or for how long.

Build something, prove something, then start a thread. :lockd: