awesome headlights for the pop up lover in you

[mySRblows]

the main drawback to the pop ups are lighting options. most buy the ebay setup with or without HID, some dish out the cash for the Pegasus lights, and others swap fronts. The non HID ebays have terribly poor lighting while the HID version is responsible for blinding all of us. Pegasus make an excellent product as far as function goes, but they look awkward imo and the $200+ price tag isnt exactly practical. I was stuck using the Kragen Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams until now.

For $100 Hella makes a complete H4 conversion kit which includes a Left and Right headlight with special E Code lenses, two H4 bulbs, and two rubber boots to cover the plugs. *THIS IS NOT HID*

The E Code lenses are specially designed to direct your light output properly to give razor sharp cutoff, excellent performance, and affordability. Below you can visually see how they accomplish this.

http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww128/jobforacowboy08/2011-02-17_18-42-01_311.jpg

Here's a side by side comparison of the Hella's and some Ebay lights. The red lines depict where your light is being directed.

http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww128/jobforacowboy08/2011-02-25_14-23-19_265.jpg

The Ebays are blasting light anywhere and everywhere, where as the Hella's show where cutoff begins, where side to side light is directed, where light illuminates the ground, and on the far right side the light is sent farther and higher to give you sidewalk/bike lane/etc visibility (this does mean you have a Left and Right headlight. Swap the two and your sidewalk vision is now blasted into oncoming traffic so please take this into account)

Hella VS OEM

http://jeepin.com/images/features/ipf/ipf7.jpg


some know about these, some dont. this is for the un-educated.

[FaLKoN240]

Old news.

I had HELLA e codes. Wish I never sold them. -_-

[mySRblows]

Old news.

I had HELLA e codes. Wish I never sold them. -_-




this is for the un-educated.

[lilrussian]

Nice!
You can deff see quality!

[FaLKoN240]

You should show people where to buy some for CHEAP.

I'm STILL looking :(

[Treefish]

You should show people where to buy some for CHEAP.

I'm STILL looking :(

Could get these instead.

89-94 NISSAN 240SX EURO 200mm H4 H6054 HEADLIGHTS KIT - eBay (item 270381702775 end time Mar-18-11 22:27:34 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-94-NISSAN-240SX-EURO-200mm-H4-H6054-HEADLIGHTS-KIT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef4015e77QQitemZ27038 1702775QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries)

The man wanted cheap. I'm not offering an opinion, just stating a fact that these are cheaper H4 housings.

Personally, I have the Hella H4 housings and a pair of NSX headlights I'm going to use at a later date.

[mySRblows]

^knockoffs.

and you can buy the hella conversion kits for $100 on Amazon/Ebay/Etc.

if they aren't being sold for some reason I can order them from my parts dealer

[boost infested]

what bout these Pegasus?

NorCal MR2 Pegasus Headlight Conversion (http://www.norcalmr2.com/pegasus/)

[dt-p88]

Good info! I like those hella ones.

[reyes23]

yup had hellas since iv had my popups two years strong

[hellion240sx]

the main drawback to the pop ups are lighting options. most buy the ebay setup with or without HID, some dish out the cash for the Pegasus lights, and others swap fronts. The non HID ebays have terribly poor lighting while the HID version is responsible for blinding all of us. Pegasus make an excellent product as far as function goes, but they look awkward imo and the $200+ price tag isnt exactly practical. I was stuck using the Kragen Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams until now.

For $100 Hella makes a complete H4 conversion kit which includes a Left and Right headlight with special E Code lenses, two H4 bulbs, and two rubber boots to cover the plugs. *THIS IS NOT HID*

The E Code lenses are specially designed to direct your light output properly to give razor sharp cutoff, excellent performance, and affordability. Below you can visually see how they accomplish this.
Here's a side by side comparison of the Hella's and some Ebay lights. The red lines depict where your light is being directed.

http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww128/jobforacowboy08/2011-02-25_14-23-19_265.jpg

The Ebays are blasting light anywhere and everywhere, where as the Hella's show where cutoff begins, where side to side light is directed, where light illuminates the ground, and on the far right side the light is sent farther and higher to give you sidewalk/bike lane/etc visibility (this does mean you have a Left and Right headlight. Swap the two and your sidewalk vision is now blasted into oncoming traffic so please take this into account)

Hella VS OEM

some know about these, some dont. this is for the un-educated.

That pic LOL. now i am educated! Good find as I still have pop ups

[rspatron]

Where can i find the hella lights?

[ixfxi]

the main drawback to the pop ups are...

what the fuck is this, a time capsule? did we just enter 1990?


besides the fact that this has been discussed over a million times (mostly by me), your post makes no sense. razor sharp cutoff? is that supposed to mean that you're driving with a superior set of lights, because of the cutoff? nothing else matters other than cutoff? cutoff is only one variable in the list of many that can determine whether or not a light is high quality.

hella has been around forever, they are inexpensive entry-level solutions for the 200mm headlights. the pegasus stuff is garbage. the autopal shit some other tool listed is also garbage. the projector nonsense you are using for comparison is utter SHIT.

if you want better than those shitty hella h4's, buy some cibies from me.. then you can write a review about how wrong you were and how right i am.


kill yourself

[ixfxi]

Where can i find the hella lights?

hella lights can be purchased from the nice folks over at Susquehanna MotorSports - High Performance Vehicle Lighting and Competition Accessories (http://www.rallylights.com)

cibie lights can be purchased from this asshole over at ClearCorners.Com > Exotic Automotive Lighting for Show & Race Tuner Applications (http://www.clearcorners.com)

http://clearcorners.com/tech/002/H4_UltraPrem_1.jpg
readup children
ClearCorners.Com > Tech Info > Halogen Bulb Shootout: The Good, the Blue, and the UGLY (Page 1/5) (http://clearcorners.com/tech/002/)

[silviaks2nr]

or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications (http://www.theretrofitsource.com)
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?32932-S13-240sx-H6054-retrofit.-FX-R-Apolo-shroud-glass-lense)

for non HIDP members:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5013/photopl.jpg

output of FX-R retrofit in a truck
http://www.f150online.com/forums/members/powerz69-albums-04-08+oem+headlights+fx-r+projector+hid+retrofit.-picture152319-img-0987.jpg

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0682/products/F1_Autohaus_FX-R_Projectors_HID_cutoff_large.jpg

[Tantwoforty]

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[h2v7]

angel eyes still look best on bmw.... i dunno if pop up 240s can pull it off...

[icedsole]

hey bros, how do i get that sharp as glass cutoff. i need to make it look like i have lights from a 2010 car on my 1993 nissan.

[Edwin562]

damn, so clean

[Chaw wee]

Where was anybody talking about angel eyes... :facepalm:

[nismoracingsx]

Paying so much for something as trivial as headlights was never an interest of mine..
Both of my 240's rock the 29.99 H4 squares from sonic motor...plenty bright and they look sharp..

[FaLKoN240]

Paying so much for something as trivial as headlights was never an interest of mine..
Both of my 240's rock the 29.99 H4 squares from sonic motor...plenty bright and they look sharp..

When you get into a front end collision because you blinded the shit out of oncoming traffic, we'll see how something trivial like "headlights" really is for you.

I'm buying some Hella e codes tonight to replace the current H4 housings I have right now. I can't take them anymore.

[94_240sx]

I did a lot of research and ended up getting Cibie housing and Philips bulb recommended by Daniel Stern(Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/)). Hella came very close, but decided to get Cibie.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_6042.jpg

[shiftdrift]

if i already have the hella housings, what bulbs do i get?

[ixfxi]

or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications (http://www.theretrofitsource.com)
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?32932-S13-240sx-H6054-retrofit.-FX-R-Apolo-shroud-glass-lense)

thats all fine and dandy if you want something that isnt legal
no offense but all of those parts are made in china. the replicated projectors, the transformer and bulbs, its all cheap stuff. you're basically taking a bunch of lemon products and attempting to make lemonade

also, the pics arent representative of the light output, the photo is over-exposed. no car with factory xenon lights up the road like that, let alone aftermarket.

[silviaks2nr]

thats all fine and dandy if you want something that isnt legal
no offense but all of those parts are made in china. the replicated projectors, the transformer and bulbs, its all cheap stuff. you're basically taking a bunch of lemon products and attempting to make lemonade

also, the pics arent representative of the light output, the photo is over-exposed. no car with factory xenon lights up the road like that, let alone aftermarket.

I was posting an inexpensive option that is affordable to many. Going the oem only route is certainly better and is what I have done with all my personal retrofits.

[Big_E-Dog]

or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications (http://www.theretrofitsource.com)
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com (http://www.ddmtuning.com)
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?32932-S13-240sx-H6054-retrofit.-FX-R-Apolo-shroud-glass-lense)

for non HIDP members:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5013/photopl.jpg

output of FX-R retrofit in a truck
http://www.f150online.com/forums/members/powerz69-albums-04-08+oem+headlights+fx-r+projector+hid+retrofit.-picture152319-img-0987.jpg

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0682/products/F1_Autohaus_FX-R_Projectors_HID_cutoff_large.jpg

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yeah i agree this thread is done,

if you want to not have cheap parts then rob ballasts projectors from a tsx. its not legal as we know but a near legal and better than cheapassebayblindingontheothersideoftheroad lights

[NewS13Guy]

I did a lot of research and ended up getting Cibie housing and Philips bulb recommended by Daniel Stern(Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/)). Hella came very close, but decided to get Cibie.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_6042.jpg

This actually look pretty good...which Phillips bulb did you buy? Link?

[S14DB]

thats all fine and dandy if you want something that isnt legal
Why isn't this legal?

[FaLKoN240]

Just picked up my Hella DOT ecodes tonight. Can't wait to install them.

I'll be posting up some H4 housings all over the place I have like 2 sets I need to sel.

[jspecusa]

for true awesome headlight for pop up s13,
use stock nsx headlight.
1. they can be found easily due to nsx going kouki non pop up conversion.
2. they are DOT approved
3. they are more aerodynamic when the lights are up.

just like mike said anything egay is crap and ricey.

[S14kouki_10]

^Yes!
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/66/l_8af46c7f62034f6f8ba0621ddf7c43dd.jpg

[FaLKoN240]

for true awesome headlight for pop up s13,
use stock nsx headlight.
1. they can be found easily due to nsx going kouki non pop up conversion.
2. they are DOT approved
3. they are more aerodynamic when the lights are up.

just like mike said anything egay is crap and ricey.

I will start looking for this.

[ixfxi]

I was posting an inexpensive option that is affordable to many. Going the oem only route is certainly better and is what I have done with all my personal retrofits.

OEM is better because OEM works, part for part, generally speaking. However, what you posted was not a completely finished headlight that one can purchase. You posted a shopping list of aftermarket components which, with the proper skill and sufficient time, one can create a headlight similar to the aforementioned. The problem with this is that obviously, based on the appearance and build quality of the majority of cars in this community, that building things is beyond the scope of most individuals here. With that said, building a proper headlight assembly, let alone a xenon headlight assembly... is probably asking too much from a mere 240SX owner.


Why isn't this legal?

There is a fine line between what is legal and what is not. Being that we're in the US, technically speaking we must all run DOT compliant headlights. I'm not an advocate who believes that DOT compliant headlights are the only headlights in existence that should be run in this country. There are plenty of high quality e-code headlights that work just as fine. Although running an e-code headlight is illegal, at least if you run a quality (ie: hella or cibie) headlight you're still using a quality headlight built by reputable companies (and by reputable, I mean reputable worldwide).

Now you step into FX-R DDE McCulloch TSXR blah blah.. thats all modern-day tomfoolery. Maybe it works, maybe it doesnt, maybe its good, maybe its not.. fuck that. I dont waste my time nor do I risk me or others with cheap shit. I have a very low fucking tolerance for cheap shit, period. These types of products are not compliant in this country or in any country with civilized lighting standards.


for true awesome headlight for pop up s13,
use stock nsx headlight.
1. they can be found easily due to nsx going kouki non pop up conversion.
2. they are DOT approved
3. they are more aerodynamic when the lights are up.
just like mike said anything egay is crap and ricey.

I have several pairs of those headlights. The funny thing is, there is no real way to install them in an S13 without butchering the radiator core support. The NSX headlights are very wide and very long, I'de be surprised to see how that white car is securing them in there. I bet its been hacked and no longer moves up and down like stock


Just picked up my Hella DOT ecodes tonight. Can't wait to install them.
I'll be posting up some H4 housings all over the place I have like 2 sets I need to sel.

Make the switch to the Cibies and you'll be even more impressed. I've had a few customers very upset with the Hellas which is funny to me, because they're fair.. but their high beams are not too good. The Cibie is fantastic, high and low, super fantastic.

I was laughing when dave told me you picked up an SC... I still have one. Lighting was one of the worst features of the car. Was.

[silviaks2nr]

OEM is better because OEM works, part for part, generally speaking. However, what you posted was not a completely finished headlight that one can purchase. You posted a shopping list of aftermarket components which, with the proper skill and sufficient time, one can create a headlight similar to the aforementioned. The problem with this is that obviously, based on the appearance and build quality of the majority of cars in this community, that building things is beyond the scope of most individuals here. With that said, building a proper headlight assembly, let alone a xenon headlight assembly... is probably asking too much from a mere 240SX owner.



I do not doubt that. Few who read my first post are going to understand how to do a retrofit properly. It takes a lot of skill, knowledge, and practice. However, those truly interested would do further research and figure that out for themselves using the resources available on other internet sites (There is obviously very little accurate information about this subject here given many of the responses to the original post). Hopefully the information I posted was at least a starting point for them. There are also professional and hobbyist retrofitters like myself who can be contacted for their services to get the job done right.

[FaLKoN240]

I dun did it.

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/371466-onevia-180sx-h4-headlamp-hella-autopal-illest-sticker.html

[h2v7]

i like those nsx lights...

[A54]

Nice info...
Its good to have options.

[airhead]

what do you guys think of Raybrig housings?

http://www.jdmwhat.com/image/small/DSC_0051.jpg

[h2v7]

all the cool kids have these

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/m0VKXQnP9ECeKJsO-CrJ17g/140.jpg

LMAO!!

[sftmb]

what do you guys think of Raybrig housings?

http://www.jdmwhat.com/image/small/DSC_0051.jpg

I've actually got a set of the purple blue ones, that I'm gonna be installing in my car when it's done at the end of the month. I'll update ya on how they turn out. I also got a set of polarg shining wizard bulbs to go with them ;)

[boyou2]

I gat a pair of Raybrig's one

these are for RHD cars,lights dazzles other people

[mrflip69]

I dun did it.

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/371466-onevia-180sx-h4-headlamp-hella-autopal-illest-sticker.html

Didn't you just buy those Hella E-codes?

On another note, what's the difference between the Cibies and the Hellas? I think the Cibies are plastic, correct? But what makes them superior over the Hellas?

[airhead]

can anyone point me out to where to buy Raybrig housings?

I currently have Hella glass housings but i would prefer the clear look lens

[airhead]

all the cool kids have these

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/m0VKXQnP9ECeKJsO-CrJ17g/140.jpg

LMAO!!

Ewww!:barf:

[kouki-gymkhana]

I have several pairs of those headlights. The funny thing is, there is no real way to install them in an S13 without butchering the radiator core support. The NSX headlights are very wide and very long, I'de be surprised to see how that white car is securing them in there. I bet its been hacked and no longer moves up and down like stock.

True, the owner of that car has stated publicly that the lights don't retract anymore. The conversion looks sweet but you do have to hack your shit to pieces to make it work. If you are a fan of the "sleepy eye" look then it's fine but otherwise it sucks.

[ProjectZero240]

i have h4 housings i got from Enjukuracing.com,, what are good bulbs to get.. the ones that came with it are garbage.. please PM me with links or whatever for the bulbs

[Quail]

Paying so much for something as trivial as headlights

No wai. :faint:

[h2v7]

No wai. :faint:

try droppin $300 on those origin tails.

[rice_bowl]

Recently got my Cibies and some Osram Nightbreaker bulbs. Can't complain. Great cutoff and output
For bulbs, I would say Osrams, Philips Xtreme Powers, or some Narvas.

[Quail]

try droppin $300 on those origin tails.

My quote was more about nismoracingsx thinking headlights were trivial. One of the most stupid things I've heard on here in a while.

[didderson]

Glad someone brought up cibie early on. They always were gonna b my first choice before hella.. Im getting tired of the 'meh' sylvania silverstars, but theyre alright.

[bc.]

^ When i want to drive at night, i just collect lightning bugs and stick them in my headlights, way cheaper then this crap.

[joshchewuhh]

i have those hella h4's for a while now. recently put 3k HID's and they are super nice! :D

[94_240sx]

This is the best bulb for H4 housing. It's what I have.
<b>Philips <font color="red">Xtreme Power</font> 9003 60/55W / H4 / HB2</b> (TWO-PACK) (http://store.candlepower.com/90h4hbxtpo.html)

Raybrig is plastic, not glass like Cibie and Hella.

Damn, NSX headlights look good!!! I think you need to chop the rods to control the popup height.

[94_240sx]

can anyone point me out to where to buy Raybrig housings?


I prefer glass over clear plastic. Anyway, when I searched, there's one eBay seller from Japan was selling the Raybrig headlights fairly cheap.

[Chaluska]

LOL, i wondered if anyone on here ever seen my thread on HIDplanet.com

that retrofit was extremely easy to do, and didnt take long.. and now my lights overpower practically every other car out there..

i have a garage full of H6054 conversion housings.. Cibie Gen 2, gen 1, hella, and like 5 sets of the crappy sylvania h6054

HID projectors destroy all H4 housings. period.

cibies and hellas are garbage in comparisson.

[shiftdrift]

SO, let me ask again, what is a good bulb to get for hella h4 housings? they came on the car and i don't feel like buying new housings, just bulbs. not looking for the most jdm awesomesauce lights, just good ones.

[ixfxi]

LOL, i wondered if anyone on here ever seen my thread on HIDplanet.com

that retrofit was extremely easy to do, and didnt take long.. and now my lights overpower practically every other car out there..

i have a garage full of H6054 conversion housings.. Cibie Gen 2, gen 1, hella, and like 5 sets of the crappy sylvania h6054

HID projectors destroy all H4 housings. period.

cibies and hellas are garbage in comparisson.

wow, it sounds like you're very knowledgeable. you must have decades worth of knowledge in the lighting industry.

here is this guy's thread, in case you want to learn from a self-proclaimed pro:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?32932-S13-240sx-H6054-retrofit.-FX-R-Apolo-shroud-glass-lense&

wow... totally wow. your car headlights look awesome. your ride height looks awesome. your paint is awesome.

[NewS13Guy]

This is the best bulb for H4 housing. It's what I have.
<b>Philips <font color="red">Xtreme Power</font> 9003 60/55W / H4 / HB2</b> (TWO-PACK) (http://store.candlepower.com/90h4hbxtpo.html)

Raybrig is plastic, not glass like Cibie and Hella.

Damn, NSX headlights look good!!! I think you need to chop the rods to control the popup height.

So I take it you are running these bulbs with the Cibie H4 200mm × 142mm (7.9” × 5.5”) housings from the Daniel Stern link you posted earlier?

[nismoracingsx]

My quote was more about nismoracingsx thinking headlights were trivial. One of the most stupid things I've heard on here in a while.

Please, don't feel so high and mighty on my account. Go spend 1000.00+ on a set of headlights :bigok:

[S14DB]

Please, don't feel so high and mighty on my account. Go spend 1000.00+ on a set of headlights :bigok:

Wait, are you saying that's a lot for a set of headlights?

[240_SeX]

Does anyone have a decent writeup on the NSX conversion? what/how much needs to be cut? Is it possible to pull off a fully functional headlight control with them?

Also any decent projector retrofit writeups? like with pictures at least?

[chiboy002]

SO, let me ask again, what is a good bulb to get for hella h4 housings? they came on the car and i don't feel like buying new housings, just bulbs. not looking for the most jdm awesomesauce lights, just good ones.

narva is what i have, theyre the shit. I always get asked if i have HIDs cause "theyre so bright but not blinding" and shit.

Really nice lighting, good brightness and i never get flashed, and its a clean white light - not that yellowy/bluey shit you see.

Does good in rain too, but that might be my housings

[ixfxi]

Please, don't feel so high and mighty on my account. Go spend 1000.00+ on a set of headlights :bigok:

i spent more than that on my setup

[ixfxi]

Does anyone have a decent writeup on the NSX conversion? what/how much needs to be cut? Is it possible to pull off a fully functional headlight control with them?

Also any decent projector retrofit writeups? like with pictures at least?

hey, ever heard of nsxprime? go there

i love when people ask questions about work that is completely prototype. get off your ass and go try. thats what i do. i spend money on parts, try, fail, or eventually succeed.

damn people are so lazy nowadays. expecting a fucking writeup or novice guide for everything

[shiftdrift]

so....about those h4 bulbs.

[initial_drifter]

hey, ever heard of nsxprime? go there

i love when people ask questions about work that is completely prototype. get off your ass and go try. thats what i do. i spend money on parts, try, fail, or eventually succeed.

damn people are so lazy nowadays. expecting a fucking writeup or novice guide for everything

You mentioned you had an SC earlier and was wondering which projectors you used?

I can definitely agree that the lighting is terrible

[240_SeX]

hey, ever heard of nsxprime? go there

i love when people ask questions about work that is completely prototype. get off your ass and go try. thats what i do. i spend money on parts, try, fail, or eventually succeed.

damn people are so lazy nowadays. expecting a fucking writeup or novice guide for everything

I'm sorry, I didn't think my question was worded "Is there anyone here who has nothing helpful to say but feels like being a dick?"

If you jump into a project without attempting to research it you sir, are an imbecile.

[whiterps13]

hey, ever heard of nsxprime? go there

i love when people ask questions about work that is completely prototype. get off your ass and go try. thats what i do. i spend money on parts, try, fail, or eventually succeed.

damn people are so lazy nowadays. expecting a fucking writeup or novice guide for everything

Shut up. With the vast amount of information that is available on the internet, why wouldnt you research first before you spend money and take a bunch of expensive, hard to get parts and just fuck them up for the sake of being a badass?

Numerous people have retrofitted good projectors into some type of pop-up housing (whether it is a 240sx, a Camaro, an NSX, etc.) and there actually are some good write-ups out there. Its pretty stupid to think that there is no information out there and just must destroy shit to make something work. Learn from other mistakes, save some time, money and frustration.

But if you follow a write-up, you must be a SNIP. Or something. Blah blah.

[FantasticVoyages]

I wired Mag lights to my battery. The cutoff is amazing.

[smelly240]

hey, ever heard of nsxprime? go there

i love when people ask questions about work that is completely prototype. get off your ass and go try. thats what i do. i spend money on parts, try, fail, or eventually succeed.

damn people are so lazy nowadays. expecting a fucking writeup or novice guide for everything


You know - theres no reason to get all angry at people for not buying what you tell them to. You do realize that these young guys dont have the money to spend and the 75 bucks is a lot to em.

They arent buying cheapo junk because they want it - they do it because they dont have money to buy those and still take that cute girl out for a cheeseburger.

I like your stuff - and you know ur lighting, BUT - you take a lot of offense for people not having the loot to spend on their 20+ year old cars.

[statickx991]

hey did anyone do the hela h4 light housings and then like a hid kit off ebay or something? i was just wondering how they turned out

[ThatGuy]

You know - theres no reason to get all angry at people for not buying what you tell them to. You do realize that these young guys dont have the money to spend and the 75 bucks is a lot to em.

They arent buying cheapo junk because they want it - they do it because they dont have money to buy those and still take that cute girl out for a cheeseburger.

I like your stuff - and you know ur lighting, BUT - you take a lot of offense for people not having the loot to spend on their 20+ year old cars.

Frankly, if you don't have the money, you don't need to worry about upgrading.

If people would learn patience, and take their time with builds, they could afford the parts they want, instead of settling for something else.

Unless they are building a "missile", then they shouldn't even bother asking for advice anyway. Just slap on whatever looks cool for the track and be done.

[240_SeX]

I never said money was an issue at all, I just want to know if anyone has pulled off a functional NSX conversion and how much of the core support had to be cut out.

The NSX projectors certainly aren't cheap or easy to come by and I wasn't about to start a project if I have to hack my car all to shit for some lights that don't even function properly.

Could I have figured it out on my own, sure. But isn't that what forums are for? Learning from what other people have done and discussing it? Not having a Mr. Macho dick measuring contest.

[FantasticVoyages]

Frankly, if you don't have the money, you don't need to worry about upgrading.



Not really true. An upgrade is better even if it's not the best thing. Kind of like saying don't buy a car unless you can afford the best one.

or like doing a KA-T instead of a LS9...

[ixfxi]

I'm sorry, I didn't think my question was worded "Is there anyone here who has nothing helpful to say but feels like being a dick?"

If you jump into a project without attempting to research it you sir, are an imbecile.

Actually, I've jumped into just about every project without a fucking "how-to-guide" off of the internet. You know those twin-ring LED tail lights? No write-up, no guide. You know those low-profile headlights? No write-up, no guide. The slim oil cooler I added to the nose of my bumper? No fucking write-up and no fucking guide.

You guys really are a bunch of pussies. And this is coming from someone who back in the day, when there WERE no forums - we used mailing lists and had to sift through hundreds of emails just talking about whether or not the Z32 calipers are possible to adapt onto our cars. Which now, you little turds have the knack to come say "oh, isnt there some guide or writeup? Hey douchebags, how about getting off your ass, locating and buying parts, and then TRYING. Cheap fucks.

You know, I didnt even install NSX headlights on my car.. and I own 2 pairs of these damn things! I own TWO PAIRS for something I thought about doing but then decided was not worth it because of the problems I foresaw. So the talk about cutting the radiator core support, thats MY advice and caution. Would you like me to write a guide? Here you go:

NSX Headlight install on S13 Popups:

Tools needed:
- Phillips Screwdriver
- Flathead screwdriver
- Duct tape
- Assembly lube
- Razor blades

Procedure:
- Shove screw drivers into your eye sockets
- Apply duct tape to mouth
- Use razor blades on wrist (down highway, not across street)
- Assembly lube... well, you know what to do with it


Shut up. With the vast amount of information that is available on the internet, why wouldnt you research first before you spend money and take a bunch of expensive, hard to get parts and just fuck them up for the sake of being a badass?
Numerous people have retrofitted good projectors into some type of pop-up housing (whether it is a 240sx, a Camaro, an NSX, etc.) and there actually are some good write-ups out there. Its pretty stupid to think that there is no information out there and just must destroy shit to make something work. Learn from other mistakes, save some time, money and frustration.
But if you follow a write-up, you must be a SNIP. Or something. Blah blah.

Maybe if you have some fabrication skills, you wont fuckup. Maybe if you hang your balls out, you wont worry so much about fucking up. I dont have the answer for you. All I can say is that if you wait for a writeup or guide for everything, you're going to end up with the most bland, stereotypical piece of shit enjuku mail order S13. Classy.


You know - theres no reason to get all angry at people for not buying what you tell them to. You do realize that these young guys dont have the money to spend and the 75 bucks is a lot to em.
They arent buying cheapo junk because they want it - they do it because they dont have money to buy those and still take that cute girl out for a cheeseburger.
I like your stuff - and you know ur lighting, BUT - you take a lot of offense for people not having the loot to spend on their 20+ year old cars.

Douche. I never once said anything about buying my product. Amazing how people read things wrong. If you read what I said, is BUY HELLA at the BARE minimum. What are you going to say, that you cant afford 100 dollar headlights? You cheap bastards. Do you guys even have money for filling up gas? When I was 16 I had 100 bucks. You are in you're 33 and cant afford some entry level E-code H4 headlights? Do you even have a job?

And then you guys have the nerve to talk about upgrading to HID. Oh shit, slow down! Dont bust the bank!


hey did anyone do the hela h4 light housings and then like a hid kit off ebay or something? i was just wondering how they turned out

They turned out great. I can tell that you've really done a lot of research.


I never said money was an issue at all, I just want to know if anyone has pulled off a functional NSX conversion and how much of the core support had to be cut out.
The NSX projectors certainly aren't cheap or easy to come by and I wasn't about to start a project if I have to hack my car all to shit for some lights that don't even function properly.
Could I have figured it out on my own, sure. But isn't that what forums are for? Learning from what other people have done and discussing it? Not having a Mr. Macho dick measuring contest.

If money isnt an issue, then shut the fuck up, buy the headlights, and see if you have the skills and a pair of brass bearings to install them - properly.

[S14kouki_10]

ixfxi hates his life, poor fellow. Always mad.

[whiterps13]

You need to get over yourself. Seriously, just because youve been in the game SO long and youre all old and crusty doesnt mean that everyone should be like you.

The internet is here, it is 2011, and old ways are no longer. Why wouldnt somebody use other's knowledge and experience to guide them on a complex process? Should doctors just blindly do surgeries and hope for the best? Should technology cease to exist unless its some radical new trial and error method that is completely a shot in the dark?

What youre suggesting is so ignorant it shocks me that youre not 16. NEVER look at a write-up. NEVER follow other people's advice. After all, other people's mistakes are worthless and their experiences that WERE successful shall never be referenced. Once we realize this, we can all be as high and mighty as yourself.

God forbid you actually tell us why you feel the NSX conversion is stupid, or whatever you think. Please, enlighten us on why it wont work (and Im actually being sincere about this) rather than just calling us retarded. I have thought about doing a projector retrofit into the pop-up mechanism, but my main concern is adapting some sort of shield or plastic housing to protect the actual projector (hense why a NSX housing would seem to be a great idea). Thank you, kind sir. I look forward to you sharing your infinate wisdom.

[khalimadeath]

ixfxi hates his life, poor fellow. Always mad.

he mad?.. :rant2:

[smelly240]

I never said anything about your products - except that they're nice.

I have Hella headlights - and I dont have HIDs or Blue headlights.

All I said is that you take too much offense to people not listening to you. And you took offense.

[japslapsilvia]

ixfxi=WIN!!!

[drift freaq]

ixfxi hates his life, poor fellow. Always mad.

lol if you think he hates his life and is Mad? You really don't get it. Mike loves his life, is he mad? No , he is annoyed by people being cheap and wanting their hands held all the time.
Does he take it far to make a point? Yes, he does because he wants it to sink in. You guys could do yourselves a favor by taking his advice when it comes to lighting.

I have been around a long time and know a hell of a lot. When it comes to lighting, I defer to Mike. He is probably one of the Worlds Foremost Automobile lighting experts.

he mad?.. :rant2:
Mad? , No
and you don't get it.

[UNKNOWNvSOLDIER]

I love any thread that ixfxi posts in that happens to also have morons in them as well. Because one of them is bound to say or do something stupid, then I get to watch ixfxi call them out. then they get mad and shit.

Edit: btw, i was talked into getting some of those cheap ebay style h4 conversion, worst thing I have done to my s13. they have a decent cut off, but have no spread at all. i had to adjust the lights outward just to have some visibility on the side. i'm gonna be getting atleast some hella h4s here soon and trash those pos ebay shits. nobody here should buy those. if your gonna be cheap, just get a set of old school headlights from autozone/advanced auto for $30.

[Chaluska]

wow, it sounds like you're very knowledgeable. you must have decades worth of knowledge in the lighting industry.

here is this guy's thread, in case you want to learn from a self-proclaimed pro:
S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?32932-S13-240sx-H6054-retrofit.-FX-R-Apolo-shroud-glass-lense&)

wow... totally wow. your car headlights look awesome. your ride height looks awesome. your paint is awesome.

Wow, first, take whatever was shoved up your ass, and pull it out.. did i say "hey check out my paint, and ride height" or that i was some lighting guru with "decades" of lighting experience.

i chose affordable HID projectors, and crammed them into h6054 housings. i have had cibies, and hellas, h4 "crystal" housings, and all of them were not as nice as projectors.

clearly you have some sort of issues that needs to be worked out. your e-cock does not make you cool in real life:duh:

EDIT:

as not to get off track from the main subject.

Any H6054 > H4 conversion headlight out there is practically better than the OEM sylvania H6054 housings.

[240_SeX]

ixfxi - You're acting as if someone said "I can't possibly do anything without a guide" No one ever said anything close it that. I just simply wanted to know if one existed so I could determine if it was something I wanted to do.

Also, no one has personally attacked you or any of your work. Congratz, you've made some cool shit.

I'm not lazy, I'm not a pussy, I'm not broke. Just simply doing some research.

[smelly240]

You have to admire how passionate he is about the lighting. A little aggressive - maybe, but at least its fun to read.

[240_SeX]

I understand, however I'm not sure what he wants. Should we all just bow down and worship him as the lighting god before he'll offer a little help?

Jesus, sell me one of the sets of damn headlights and I'll put them on my car. I'll find a way to make them work, properly. I'm just haven't been able to find shit about them. To be quite frank, there aren't many NSXs in Maine (as I'm sure you can imagine) so it's difficult to find some that are reasonably priced.

[drift freaq]

I understand, however I'm not sure what he wants. Should we all just bow down and worship him as the lighting god before he'll offer a little help?

Jesus, sell me one of the sets of damn headlights and I'll put them on my car. I'll find a way to make them work, properly. I'm just haven't been able to find shit about them. To be quite frank, there aren't many NSXs in Maine (as I'm sure you can imagine) so it's difficult to find some that are reasonably priced.

Bow down to him? No, respect his knowledge and opinion Yes.

He wants people to use their brain. If they would just use your brain in the first place he is happy to give advice and possibly help.

The problem is, every 3 months someone posts a thread about how do shitty cheap ass lights that look like shit.
Every single time people come out in defense of the cheap ass shit with stupid ass statements. Now I am not saying you did. Though I am saying this is a repeated problem.

Instead of you guys saying hey you know Mike is right. You all jump to defend the craptastic cheap lights because they are cheap. Oh and people in the 240 world these days tend to take the route rather than the quality.

There have been people in this thread that listened to what Mike said and did something.

There is a handful that have lashed out back at Mike because they do not want to listen. They do not want to go the proper route for a little more money.
Mike never said listen buy my completely expensive lights.
He did say the stuff posted is crap here is a reasonable alternative i.e. Cibie or Hella if you have too.

Did the people arguing with him listed to that? No, they tried to defend their cheap ass ways and attacked Mike. When Mike is attacked he comes back with the ammunition, that pretty much proves his point.

Its funny, anytime anyone makes good points on Zilvia, everyone starts trying to play you're mad and whatnot and go in for the personal attack.

Now you say you understand, perhaps now you will understand even more.

[Chaluska]

http://www.garagemak.com/180sxt1t2CIMG1790.jpg
http://www.acurapartswarehouse.com/diagrams/large/headlight-223388.png

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a333/boostedeuce/IMG_0864.jpg

Its been done to a 240 before. and there is proof,

its just seems as though they are REALLY deep headlights.

looks like 9006 low beam and 9005 high beam.. probably projectors similar to the J30..

[240_SeX]

Bow down to him? No, respect his knowledge and opinion Yes.

He wants people to use their brain. If they would just use your brain in the first place he is happy to give advice and possibly help.

The problem is, every 3 months someone posts a thread about how do shitty cheap ass lights that look like shit.
Every single time people come out in defense of the cheap ass shit with stupid ass statements. Now I am not saying you did. Though I am saying this is a repeated problem.

Instead of you guys saying hey you know Mike is right. You all jump to defend the craptastic cheap lights because they are cheap. Oh and people in the 240 world these days tend to take the route rather than the quality.

There have been people in this thread that listened to what Mike said and did something.

There is a handful that have lashed out back at Mike because they do not want to listen. They do not want to go the proper route for a little more money.
Mike never said listen buy my completely expensive lights.
He did say the stuff posted is crap here is a reasonable alternative i.e. Cibie or Hella if you have too.

Did the people arguing with him listed to that? No, they tried to defend their cheap ass ways and attacked Mike. When Mike is attacked he comes back with the ammunition, that pretty much proves his point.

Its funny, anytime anyone makes good points on Zilvia, everyone starts trying to play you're mad and whatnot and go in for the personal attack.

Now you say you understand, perhaps now you will understand even more.

I do understand, and I agree. I'm in no way a fan of cheap, cheezie shit, hence why I'm looking to fit a tried and true OEM projector to my car. The idea of buying some crap off e-bay, taking it apart and gluing an e bay projector in it then JB welding it back together is what I would consider a hack-job and wouldn't be seen with it. I would even talk a Honda kid out of it.

I do admire the mans skills and knowledge and I can understand where his frustrations stem from. That being said, there's no need for him to throw a temper tantrum because someone asked for some info.

I already have Hella e-codes but I'm a big fan of the low profile projectors, and I cant see myself dropping $2200, plus a trip to cali for them. If that makes me cheap and lazy, fine.

[JST2KWIK]

this thread hurts my eyes like some ebay housings with HID's... seems like it can be summed up by saying that the two best bang for your buck upgrades to the often inadequate factory headlights are the Hella and Cibie e-code lights with the Cibie's being slightly better. NSX lights seem cool but there are not significant write ups on them. Anyone ever see the awesome Honda Odyessy S13 conversion? That looks pretty sweet too but obviously requires a good amount of work.

http://rbcrombie.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/123.jpg

[FaLKoN240]

Not really true. An upgrade is better even if it's not the best thing. Kind of like saying don't buy a car unless you can afford the best one.

or like doing a KA-T instead of a LS9...

An "upgrade" being "better" is a totally subjective statement.

Some douche throwing HIDs in some shitty housings may be an "upgrade" to the driver because it's brighter. It's a DOWNGRADE in the category of safety and being a considerate driver towards other people on the road..

this thread hurts my eyes like some ebay housings with HID's... seems like it can be summed up by saying that the two best bang for your buck upgrades to the often inadequate factory headlights are the Hella and Cibie e-code lights with the Cibie's being slightly better. NSX lights seem cool but there are not significant write ups on them. Anyone ever see the awesome Honda Odyessy S13 conversion? That looks pretty sweet too but obviously requires a good amount of work.

http://rbcrombie.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/123.jpg

That doesn't look like a pair of pop up lights to me bro. :ddog:

[OBEEWON]

LOL, for real? Deleting messages?

Well i'll be more informative this time. Put HIDs in the stock housing and aim them properly. 240's even at stock ride height compared to most compact cars today are miles lower to the point where I get blinded by newer cars LOW beams not vice versa.

I have had HID's in my 240 for 6 years and I have never gotten flashed, or in a head on collision due to blinding people.

Also thinking HIDs in stock housing suddenly point light directly into oncoming traffic is silly. HID's don't change your beam pattern, it just makes it brighter.

Trust me, Im a doctor.

Love you Mike.

[Spring Break '92]

I had once considered the HID's, but reconsidered. From what Ive learned, you can spend the same money as an HID kit and have just as good brightness and be safer with good H4 conversions, a heavy duty harness, and some over-wattage bulbs. I have Autopal H4's, a Susquehanna Motorsports H4 harness with relays and am soon switching out my Philips 60/55w H4's to Philips 100/90w Rally bulbs.

I only went the cheaper route with the Autopals after doing research and reading people say that they were as good as Hella and Cibie. I kind of doubt that, but I can say that I am satisfied enough with mine. Now, if one of them bitches breaks a lens, etc. I am getting a set of Cibies no doubt. I could be wrong, but Im pressed to say that 100/90w bulbs are going to have the same affect on other drivers as HIDs in correct housings, and still not going to blind people like HID's in incorrect housings when the H4 housings are aimed properly.

[ixfxi]

HID's don't change your beam pattern, it just makes it brighter.

Standard Bulb:
http://clearcorners.com/tech/002/H4_OE_1.jpg



HID kit:
http://clearcorners.com/tech/002/H4_HID_1.jpg


You're right, it doesnt change your beam pattern... that is, if you've been dropping acid for the past week. Seriously.


I love how I dont even have to speak anymore, my cronies are doing all the talking.
In case you all didnt know, Zilvia is not a place I conduct business. Selling my products to you guys is pointless, its like trying to sell champagne to homeless people. I come here because as an S-chassis owner, I enjoy the banter and have been in the community since the 90s (showing my age here). Forums are a complete waste of time. I do this in the morning as I eat my breakfast. Some people waste their mornings reading the paper or the funnies, I waste it talking shit to you idiots. You see, the rest of the day I spend it working... you know, making money. This is why you'll only see my posts about once a day.

Have a nice day.


Oh, and in the words of one of my most favorite rappers, KRS-One... YOU MUST LEARN:
http://www.clearcorners.com/tech/002/

[ZilviaKid]

You're right, it doesnt change your beam pattern... that is, if you've been dropping acid for the past week. Seriously.



best line of the month, calling it now

[91cupcake240]

what u guys think of these headlights...

S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290529218589&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

[OBEEWON]

Standard Bulb:
http://clearcorners.com/tech/002/H4_OE_1.jpg



HID kit:
http://clearcorners.com/tech/002/H4_HID_1.jpg


You're right, it doesnt change your beam pattern... that is, if you've been dropping acid for the past week. Seriously.




See, it doesn't change your beam pattern. Thanks for proving my point! LOL

[h2v7]

^cool but kinda pricey

[FaLKoN240]

See, it doesn't change your beam pattern. Thanks for proving my point! LOL

Are you kidding? The beam pattern is hitting the roof.

[OBEEWON]

I demand a recount by a neutral party.

Mike is crooked.

[S14DB]

what u guys think of these headlights...

S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290529218589&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

WTF are X2 projectors? I found a bunch of knockoff garbage on ebay with that name.
The highbeams look sideways in the picture.
The projectors are unprotected from the elements. The lenses are not designed for impact and most don't seal on the projector. I see damaged lenses and moisture permeation from the lens and the back.
The rods to make it go up and down correctly are nice.
Beam pattern picture from 10ft from the wall is worthless. Most look great that close. But, you can see how bad the spread is even that close.
6K bulbs look more like 10K they are so blue.

Great Idea, Execution needs work.

[nismoracingsx]

Trust me, Im a doctor.

So does that line work on all the ladies? :naughtyd:

This thread is entertaining as it is...new(er) guys are out in force :faint:

[BustedS13]

angry angry angry buy my stuff angry angry every option that is not 180/pair cibie headlights is a bad option angry angry angry

this guy uses, shall we say, aggressive sales tactics

[Darren]

this guy uses, shall we say, aggressive sales tactics

i loled at this

[ixfxi]

WTF are X2 projectors? I found a bunch of knockoff garbage on ebay with that name.
The highbeams look sideways in the picture.
The projectors are unprotected from the elements. The lenses are not designed for impact and most don't seal on the projector. I see damaged lenses and moisture permeation from the lens and the back.
The rods to make it go up and down correctly are nice.
Beam pattern picture from 10ft from the wall is worthless. Most look great that close. But, you can see how bad the spread is even that close.
6K bulbs look more like 10K they are so blue.

Great Idea, Execution needs work.

Smart man, smart response.

If its one thing I will add, is not to judge a light by its cutoff. People need to learn a thing or two about photometry and look at the


this guy uses, shall we say, aggressive sales tactics

"verrrry aggressiiiive"

YouTube - Rounders KGB aggressive scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sasg1XmdXOc)

[OBEEWON]

LOL, love that line

[S14DB]

Smart man, smart response.

If its one thing I will add, is not to judge a light by its cutoff.
I don't know if that blue splat on the wall had a cutoff...
People need to learn a thing or two about photometry and look at the

Look at the what? I speak LUX, PAR and PUR.

[jeffary]

I got the Autopal H4 conversions.
Nice sharp cutoff with regular bulbs. Build quality's good too, clean.

Haha, going to throw some HIDs in later. Let you know how it goes. :D
(no retrofit, cause im a cheapass)

[sr20drifter1]

For people who don't want to spend a lot of money on H4 conversion, you should look into getting the Koito headlights. They're made in Japan, and they're very reliable. I've been running mine for about 4 years. After I tried different set ups, I still went back to them. The cut is nice,so you can use HID without blinding people.Here is the link to the site that sells them cheap ($64/each)
89 - 95 Toyota Pickup Headlight Assembly 90 91 92 93 94 Left Driver Side (http://www.go-part.com/8995-toyota-pickup-headlight-assembly-left-driver-p-19104.html?src=pricegrabber)

[ixfxi]

For people who don't want to spend a lot of money on H4 conversion, you should look into getting the Koito headlights. They're made in Japan, and they're very reliable. I've been running mine for about 4 years. After I tried different set ups, I still went back to them. The cut is nice,so you can use HID without blinding people.Here is the link to the site that sells them cheap ($64/each)
89 - 95 Toyota Pickup Headlight Assembly 90 91 92 93 94 Left Driver Side (http://www.go-part.com/8995-toyota-pickup-headlight-assembly-left-driver-p-19104.html?src=pricegrabber)

you have to be a complete idiot at this point


serious, i mean a complete retard... to not understand that a HALOGEN light source and a XENON light source are:

not fucking interchangeable

i dont understand how people fail to understand that the two technologies are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.

idiots.



do you fill your gas powered car with diesel? no. so dont fucking install a xenon bulb in a halogen headlight.

[KiLLeR2001]

xenon bulbs in halogen headlights... something I have to deal with every night on my drive home from work :(

damn you ricers

[FaLKoN240]

I'm ricer guilty! Hella H4 and HID all day :P

[sr20drifter1]

you have to be a complete idiot at this point


serious, i mean a complete retard... to not understand that a HALOGEN light source and a XENON light source are:

not fucking interchangeable

i dont understand how people fail to understand that the two technologies are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.

idiots.



do you fill your gas powered car with diesel? no. so dont fucking install a xenon bulb in a halogen headlight.
Can't you say it without insulting me. This is what makes things wrong in this country.No respect for others. I think you should know that it takes one to know one. Idiot!

[ixfxi]

Can't you say it without insulting me. This is what makes things wrong in this country.No respect for others. I think you should know that it takes one to know one. Idiot!

You got upset that I called you an idiot? Why, we're all idiots. The entire point of forums in general is to learn.

Problem is, this has been discussed millions of times not just here, but on numerous other forums and websites. It is pretty much common knowledge that halogen and xenon technologies are not interchangeable.

If you're a nerd and want to read the tech, here it is:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html)

[CamryOnBronze]

I do have to say, I just drove for the first time at night with my Hella H4 E-codes over the weekend, and they are for sure noticeably brighter with a better cutoff than the OEM lights... and much nicer than my generic H4 lights/housings I was running before. They don't look nearly as cool, but they do work really well.

[ixfxi]

I do have to say, I just drove for the first time at night with my Hella H4 E-codes over the weekend, and they are for sure noticeably brighter with a better cutoff than the OEM lights... and much nicer than my generic H4 lights/housings I was running before. They don't look nearly as cool, but they do work really well.

Congratulations. Welcome to the club. The big penis club, my friend.

[DALAZ_68]

ok...so can we just pay for Mikes premie membership...miss you snookums

you made me El Oh El...

[Nismo240driftSX]

WTF are X2 projectors? I found a bunch of knockoff garbage on ebay with that name.
The highbeams look sideways in the picture.
The projectors are unprotected from the elements. The lenses are not designed for impact and most don't seal on the projector. I see damaged lenses and moisture permeation from the lens and the back.
The rods to make it go up and down correctly are nice.
Beam pattern picture from 10ft from the wall is worthless. Most look great that close. But, you can see how bad the spread is even that close.
6K bulbs look more like 10K they are so blue.

Great Idea, Execution needs work.

what u guys think of these headlights...

S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290529218589&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

I bought these from the guy. They are very solid. I'd actually be willing to sell them because I need to get some new coilovers for my car. Pm me if anyone wants them.

[94_240sx]

How about this Miata Moss Cobalt duals?
This should be much easier to retrofit than NSX headlights.
http://www.revlimiter.net/mods/pix/lowpro2.jpg
http://www.revlimiter.net/mods/pix/headlight2.jpg

[S14DB]

How about this Miata Moss Cobalt duals?
This should be much easier to retrofit than NSX headlights.
http://www.revlimiter.net/mods/pix/lowpro2.jpg
http://www.revlimiter.net/mods/pix/headlight2.jpg

Although they are Hella. $500 for some mini-projectors in a open frame seems not worth my money.

Why do they go though the mounting plate and hang a couple of inches out? Let all kinds of water and dirt into the housings.

[S13kiddo]

or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications (http://www.theretrofitsource.com)
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?32932-S13-240sx-H6054-retrofit.-FX-R-Apolo-shroud-glass-lense)

for non HIDP members:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5013/photopl.jpg

output of FX-R retrofit in a truck
http://www.f150online.com/forums/members/powerz69-albums-04-08+oem+headlights+fx-r+projector+hid+retrofit.-picture152319-img-0987.jpg

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0682/products/F1_Autohaus_FX-R_Projectors_HID_cutoff_large.jpg

Where did you find the housing for these? Link? Link to the projectors?

[DreamN]

Where did you find the housing for these? Link? Link to the projectors?

Really dude? Shit's in the post you quoted! Don't just look at the picture, read.

[Future240]

There is good info in this thread, so I won't lock it, but yea :picardfp: to thread bumper

[ixfxi]

Where did you find the housing for these? Link? Link to the projectors?

Age 20

Knows how to use the search button

Doesnt know how to read

Oh well.... maybe we can give him partial credit?

[dorkidori_s13]

Age 20

Knows how to use the search button

Doesnt know how to read

Oh well.... maybe we can give him partial credit?

seems to be the most common problem with the cell phone generation... if its not an illustrated diagram or in giant bold letters with words that are only 3-5 letters long or associated with SWAG or EDM, its skipped over... and oh lord, god forbid its longer than 128 characters... TLDR!