Are 3 piece wheels with real rivets safe for drifting?

[NatAsRex7]

I know that the rivets are torqued down to 10lbs a rivet but knowing the fact that the face of the wheel is screwed into the actual wheel itself kind of scare me. So are 3 piece wheels safe for drifting? If so does anyone drift with 3 piece wheels? I just wanted to make sure they are safe before i start to drift in my 3 piece wheels. :wiggle: thanks

[Vatche]

nothing in life is safe.

but a 3 piece wheel is safe.

[azndoc]

Usually, three piece wheels are a blot and nut combo combining the front barrel, face, and rear barrel together. Then the outer part of the barrel is coated with a form of adhesive to keep the air in the tire.

But to answer your question, yes it is perfectly safe to drift on 3 piece wheels.

It has been done since before you were born.

[azndoc]

Also, drifting on 3 piece wheels is the last of your concerns when it comes to drifting.

[undesiredshoe]

Your wheels are only held on with four or five lug nuts and your wheel hub is only held on with one nut.

[tommyboi]

Your wheels are only held on with four or five lug nuts and your wheel hub is only held on with one nut.

^^ quoted for truth lol

[FusionR240sx]

and the car is 20 years old and rusty..

o0o0o noooo

[duffman1278]

Your wheels are only held on with four or five lug nuts and your wheel hub is only held on with one nut.

There's waaay different kinds of loadings occuring on your hub then on your wheels. So you're argument is pretty unrelated.

3 piece wheels are fine, companies factor in the stresses that drifting or any other kind of racing will put on them so you're set. Plus, to even shear any of those bolts would take a crap load of forces.

[jspec_S14]

They are more than likely safer than your traditional monoblock wheel because it is easier to maintain quality in the manufacturing of the parts that make a 3pc.

Alot of engineering goes into fastening, and an interesting topic is the effective area of the tension you put into the bolt (the pressure area zone that is made which usually exceeds the area of the head of the bolt). regardless in this type of configuration these effective areas will either overlap or come very near, and lets say your wheel has 40 or maybe 50 studs. thats over 400-500 psi (assuming you torqued to 10psi) on one wheel. Thats the amount of pressure you will theoretically need to push back on the bolts to equalize the system, let alone start to deform the bolts to the point where they will shear.

many extremely high performance race designed wheels are made from multi piece configurations.

[NatAsRex7]

They are more than likely safer than your traditional monoblock wheel because it is easier to maintain quality in the manufacturing of the parts that make a 3pc.

Alot of engineering goes into fastening, and an interesting topic is the effective area of the tension you put into the bolt (the pressure area zone that is made which usually exceeds the area of the head of the bolt). regardless in this type of configuration these effective areas will either overlap or come very near, and lets say your wheel has 40 or maybe 50 studs. thats over 400-500 psi (assuming you torqued to 10psi) on one wheel. Thats the amount of pressure you will theoretically need to push back on the bolts to equalize the system, let alone start to deform the bolts to the point where they will shear.

many extremely high performance race designed wheels are made from multi piece configurations.

well my wheel has 20 studs. what should i torque them at?

[NiSilS14]

i gotta ask, what kinda wheels are they?

[cardoza]

If the wheel is put together well enough to hold air, then it will be safe enough to drift on.

[NatAsRex7]

i gotta ask, what kinda wheels are they?

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Im really concerned about the wheels being strong enough to withstand the g force of a drift. I know the load also goes to the lug and hub nuts but there would also be load on the bolts holding the face of the wheel together. Im pretty sure people drift with 3 piece wheels but If I have to go through the hassle of re torquing the bolts after drift sessions then It would not be worth using 3 piece wheels.

Anyone in zilvia drifting with 3 piece wheels? If so give me assurance that its fine to drift in these type of wheels. Cmon now we put a lot of money into this sport and we wouldn't want our wheels to fall off and mess up the rear sub frame. It just kind of scares me that 20 4cm bolts are keeping the wheel face on the actual wheel itself through a g force of a drift. Sorry for my ignorance but better be safe than having to replace a bunch of expensive parts.

[icedsole]

youll be ok man, the world doesnt end until next year.

[kalypso123]

this whole thread is too much. lol

[blueshark123]

wtf lol. well u need to torque it to i believe 14 ft lbs depending on if bolts are new or old but different companies reccomend diff. specs.

[NatAsRex7]

kk got it close thread please :bowrofl:

[slideways2004]

i was wondering if my quick release is safe for going through the drive thru??

I dont want to take any chances while eating my cheeseburger.

[undesiredshoe]

There's waaay different kinds of loadings occuring on your hub then on your wheels. So you're argument is pretty unrelated

I just thought id try to make him more scared than he already is

[vvtisupra]

haha majority of the people that posted are probably on xxr anyways.

[Perfect Balance]

Im really concerned about the wheels being strong enough to withstand the g force of a drift.The lateral force on the wheels during grip driving is higher than that when drifting, since a sliding tire has less grip than one that isn't sliding.

Basically if you feel safe taking a corner in them, then you'll be fine drifting. The only issue you run into with drifting is if you catch them on some curbing or go off the road or something. In which case you risk breaking/bending them, 3 piece or not.

In short, yes they're safe.