View Full Version : Knock off seat discussion
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 02:37 AM
Curious to know everyones opinion on knock off's and the real deal. In my own opinion I think mainly your laying for the name not the seat, even though the quality of each seat is vastly different from Canada made and legit Japanese. I'm mainly wondering and asking guys who've had both what there views on them are. Are they the same in comfort? Or anything along those lines ? Do they hold as well? And how hard is it to tell the difference from the legit ones and knock off's ?
Please don't flame or comment in this thread saying there's tons of discussion threads out there or hating on someone who wants the know the $1000 dollar difference between legits and fakes.
Krimlin
02-03-2011, 02:44 AM
I bought some ebay Nismo seats, they looked awesome, and built well.
Then I installed them in my 14 and the brackets were sky high to the point where I had to lean my head to sit in the car (I'm 5'11" in an S14 no sunroof) Then I wanted to take them for a test drive, hopped in and as soom as I took off from a red light kinda hard the back half of the seat where it reclines just bent backwards like it was made of rubber...
So you buy $300 seats, you get $300 quality.
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 02:48 AM
Yea, just wondering everyones opinions and views. I was really thinking about picking up some knock off bride buckets in red. I really just can't stand the seats not matching.
And most people if they have knock off's they wont comment on a thread like this just so they won't get called out on it. Personally I don't care if a knock off bucket can do the same job a real one can do then I really don't see a point in spending 1500 on a name opposed to 500 knock off bucket.
Krimlin
02-03-2011, 03:10 AM
Knock off bucket seats I have no problem with but it's the reclinables I wouldn't touch again, I've heard too many horror stories, plus my experience...
I'd laugh in someone face for trying to call me out for buying a knock off seat
FusionR240sx
02-03-2011, 03:15 AM
all depends on what the seat is a knockoff of, and what rails can be used with it.
and then there's the big bride of japan vs bride of Taiwan vs bride of CA.
my seats sit lowww, i'm 5'10" 200lbs 34 waist and it's perfect.
i'd def buy another set later on in the future, just not the way i got them because it took way too long.
i actually bought them for my 300zx and when they came in i had a 240 again, so i order rails for the 240 before i even got the seats in.
i wouldn't buy real bride recliner seats anyway, they aren't approved for the track, i don't think any recliner seat is that's aftermarket.
FusionR240sx
02-03-2011, 03:16 AM
Knock off bucket seats I have no problem with but it's the reclinables I wouldn't touch again, I've heard too many horror stories, plus my experience...
I'd laugh in someone face for trying to call me out for buying a knock off seat
what happened if you don't mind me asking?
Krimlin
02-03-2011, 03:22 AM
what happened if you don't mind me asking?
2nd post ^
msglnght
FusionR240sx
02-03-2011, 03:30 AM
reading fail. and damn yea, those sound like some shitty seats loll
ixfxi
02-03-2011, 09:45 AM
I'd laugh in someone face for trying to call me out for buying a knock off seat
you dont have to worry about someone calling you out about your seats. the way i see it, if you can stoop so low as to buy some cheapass knockoff shit, then your entire car looks like a slapped together junkpile. i havent seen one car to this day that is built right when using shitty ass knockoff parts. they're junk when they're new, which means they're beyond junk when they're old. the same goes for tools, how many high quality shops depend on junk tools? i operate a small shop and still have tons of snapon/mac/matco tools, my bare minimum being craftsman pro. horrorfreight doesnt take you too far.
go big or go home, this hobby is too expensive and people have a hard time coming to terms with that. on the cars i dont want to spend buckoo bucks on, i use good quality oem parts. for instance, if dont like your stock seats? get s14 s15 r32 r33 seats. its better than being made a fool spending money on cheap garbage.
OBEEWON
02-03-2011, 09:48 AM
The preceeding post is 100% incorrect.
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 09:51 AM
well real seats gets more points awarded at hot import nights and make one's modlist look cooler. i dunno how seats work, but knockoffs kinda have the same shape.
240sxdriftin
02-03-2011, 10:13 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/onecrew300zx/IMG_1036.jpg?t=1296753157
Ebay vios III reps... look great people think they are real all the time. The hold great, Aren't all flexi and what not. Very comfortable.
Only real draw back to them is knowing they are fake.
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 10:23 AM
instead of having it all....u had* fakes
http://www.jlh-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/simpsons_nelson_haha3.jpg
... love u too
Propaganda
02-03-2011, 10:27 AM
IMHO, even most of these Bride and other seats suck anyways. Not FIA cert or anything (except a few)
That's why Imma go get a Recaro PP to match my reclinable Recaro from a Jetta
mkezzo16
02-03-2011, 10:36 AM
I know a few people that have gotten knockoff seats from sonic motor and havent had an issue with their recliners
Brinton
02-03-2011, 10:39 AM
I've heard the ebay reps fade and tear easily.
Id rather support bride because I like the people who use their product.
cnile51
02-03-2011, 10:53 AM
They look the same, most people can't tell. The true test will come when and if you ever get involved in an accident.
Why would you take that risk?.....
Some of these seats hold up, some don't.
Same applies for knock off parts. If you want to take that chance, go for it.
Everything will affect you in the long run.
Your car will be worth EXACTLY what you put into it and nothing more.
Actually, imo fake shit takes away from resale value. I'd personally rather have OEM legit shit than fake aftermarket crap on a car.
Just my opinion, take it with a grain of salt.
whiterps13
02-03-2011, 11:02 AM
Your car will be worth EXACTLY what you put into it and nothing more.
Actually, imo fake shit takes away from resale value. I'd personally rather have OEM legit shit than fake aftermarket crap on a car.
Actually, your car will be worth about half of what you put into it. If that.
And its not like real Brides are FIA approved. You are paying for the name, not crash testing and all sorts of space age engineering that people feel that Bride Japan does. I would feel just as comfortable rocking fake Brides as opposed to the real thing as long as they are buckets. Fuck that reclinable jazz.
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 11:09 AM
I'm not really concerned with what it's worth after it's all invested you can sound 40,000 on parts then sell the car for 15,000 in today's shitty economy. Like said above mostly all name brand seats aren't certified, I'm just wondering the comfort and support of them, the differences and pro's and con's. I've seen cars with knock off's but never really actually sat in one so im not sure the difference. If the knock off bucket does the same as any other bucket then that's fine. I'm not really worried about the value of my car when it's all said and done. It isn't a drift car it isn't a race car, it's just a DD. I mainly don't see the point in spending 2K on seats that won't see the track.
icedsole
02-03-2011, 11:17 AM
buy real, or be that dude with widened steelies, fake brides, and a nrg steering wheel.
Sumslapper
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
Seats are something I wouldn't cheap out on. What if you got into an accident and your universal sliders paired with your shitty seats snapped off in a wreck. You can buy used Japanese Integra Type R Recaro SRD's anywhere from $600-900 if you have a shop locally, if you dont want to drop $1200+ on new ones.
HayaiSaru
02-03-2011, 11:45 AM
Just stay away from the reclinables. Buckets are ok.
airhead
02-03-2011, 11:45 AM
someone should start a "real/fake bride seat picture thread"
has anyone been in a accident on the fake bride seats?
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 11:45 AM
honda seats in a 240 will give me less street cred than fake brides =(
Sumslapper
02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
but there hella jdm. You can pretty much buy a used set of any seats for under a g.
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 11:51 AM
I really was looking at the recaro type r seats... But really I think knock off buckets would be better than Honda seats In a Nissan.
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 11:56 AM
but there hella jdm. You can pretty much buy a used set of any seats for under a g.
if u look hard enough u can probably get two used bride brix with bride rails for less than a G.....
Pure_JDM
02-03-2011, 11:57 AM
It also depends on what's considered a knockoff and what's not... Just because it isn't Bride, Recaro, Momo, Sparco, or Corbeau, doesn't mean it isn't a good name-brand seat. I have a fully CF bucket that was 500 bucks new, and after adding a side of side mounted rails, it sits LOW, is very comfortable, VERY stiff, and holds GREAT. The fabric has YET to tear after 5 years of use, but it has faded terribly in the sun. Nothing a mop bucket full of black dye won't fix... The only reason I want to sell it is to get some less aggressive bolsters so my friend can also drive my car.
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
if u look hard enough u can probably get two used bride brix with bride rails for less than a G.....
I've been on the prowl for about 3 months looking for a decent set.
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 12:03 PM
I've been on the prowl for about 3 months looking for a decent set.
oh bummer. keep looking.
dorkidori_s13
02-03-2011, 12:05 PM
the fake seat deal is kind of a weird topic...there are some fake seats that are total crap...then there are some knock offs that actually come from the same factories that the real seats are made from
alot of the fake seats use cheaper materials including the metals that go into the seats and the fabric used to cover them...some fabrics fade super quick and some of the metals arent made using the same finishing process
there was a topic that popped up on here a while ago about crash testing recaros vs brides (authentic seats)...recaros kicked the hell out of the bride seats in crash testing...and im referring to the reclineable seats...the brides folded and the reclining mechanisms snapped in half...the recaros actually held up fairly well...now this isnt to say that bride hasnt made changes in some of its newer seats...but i believe recaro reclineables can be FIA certified from the factory while brides do not have this option
speaking on a personal experience basis...i purchased a MemoryFab R98 reclineable seat a few years back and the seat was actually built to quality standards...i spoke with memoryfab and they informed that their R98 seat was NOT a copy of the Bride Gias...it was produced by the same manufacturer who puts out STATUS and Veilside seats...the seat was made to use recaro rails (i can be fit to bride rails as well with minor drilling of the holes as i used a bride low max rail for mine)...ive personally owned 2 old bride brix 1 seats and a bride ergo 1...and they were also very good on quality
a few buddies of mine locally have purchased knock off bride buckets and bride brix 2 replicas...i can tell you that the brix 2 replicas that were purchased from ebay were very cheap feeling...the cloth was different and the seats were much heavier feeling than the standard brix 2 from bride...the plastics also felt much thinner and the metals didnt have the same quality finish as a real brix 2
basically if you want to purchase some knock off seats from ebay or any place that sells them you are taking your own risk as far as safety goes...if a company who is well established is selling their own brand of seat...call them and pick their brains on where they get them from...if you know its a bride replica, then its more than likely not worth buying as its produced by a supplier in taiwan...if the seat looks fairly custom, they may actually be selling a fairly decent product...but it all boils down to what your budget is, what safety you feel like risking and what your goals with the car are.
kOOpA
02-03-2011, 12:14 PM
I had a F1Spec bucket in my Miata for 2 years. I hit concrete walls and stuff at events. Some were pretty decent, high-speed impacts, and I had no problems whatsoever, and the seat held great.
I also got a Toms Motorsports (never even heard of it, apparently popular with Honda guys?) carbon fibre bucket from my roommate. He got it from his coworker (Honda guy), and I honestly think it's the most comfortable seat I've ever sat in. Plus it's carbon fibre, so it has no flex.
Just depends on what you're building the car for, I guess. If you want to do serious competition, well then you obviously need something FIA certified. Otherwise, it just depends how much you can justify putting into it. I got that F1Spec years ago, when I just didn't put as much money into cars, and I bashed into a few things, and I was completely fine.
From now on, I'd at least buy carbon fibre if it's not a "legit" seat, because cf does eliminate a lot of flex.
bb4_96
02-03-2011, 12:14 PM
just don't crash
dorkidori_s13
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
From now on, I'd at least buy carbon fibre if it's not a "legit" seat, because cf does eliminate a lot of flex.
be very careful though...the carbon fiber in cheap knock off seats is just overlayed on top of fiberglass...its not an actual carbon fiber back or frame...the instant you twist that seat (god forbid), that CF covering will snap in half right along with the fiberglass underneath
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 12:22 PM
No events for me, just a decent DD, most likely I'll auto x a few times. That's all.
BustedS13
02-03-2011, 12:24 PM
knockoff seats
look trendy in the coroner's crash photos
dorkidori_s13
02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
No events for me, just a decent DD, most likely I'll auto x a few times. That's all.
i would take into account what would happen if you were in an accident (again, god forbid)...basically the only real way to keep yourself from being hurt massively if your seat snaps is to install a seat belt bar to use with a 4/5 point harness, that way the seat belt is attached to something and you wont go lunging forward in the event that you suddenly hit something, or something hits you.
kOOpA
02-03-2011, 12:29 PM
basically the only real way to keep yourself from being hurt massively if your seat snaps is to install a seat belt bar to use with a 4/5 point harness
Fair point, my Miata had a harness bar, so I was completely secured by the harness.
JaysVQ240
02-03-2011, 12:29 PM
Last time I checked "Recarro" is not a "honda seat" Recarro has put seats in many different manufactures vehicles.. I myself have Recarro seats out of an Evo with Sparco brackets.. They are reclining buckets and essentially the same as the "Sportline" seats I paid $600 on craigslist.. Not only are they Recarro they are also NTSB certified I am guessing since they were OEM equipment on a USDM vehicle.. They do sit a lil higher then most would like, but I dont track it and they're very comfortable to me. Im not short either I'm like 6'2 Heres some pics
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs478.ash1/26208_1284289339894_1009924873_30626382_7641651_n. jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25888_1303112290456_1009924873_30665303_126448_n.j pg
JuMPiiN
02-03-2011, 12:30 PM
I got the bar and 5 point's covered already. It doesn't have to be a eBay bride, it could be a sparco or something. I mostly just don't see the point in paying 2000 bucks for some seats that aren't going to be uses for anything but going back and forth to work mainly. There isnt any drifting here and there's 1 auto x every 2 months.
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 12:41 PM
Last time I checked "Recarro" is not a "honda seat" Recarro has put seats in many different manufactures vehicles..
the dude said "integra type R recaro srd"
raz0rbladez909
02-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Seats are something I wouldn't cheap out on. What if you got into an accident and your universal sliders paired with your shitty seats snapped off in a wreck. You can buy used Japanese Integra Type R Recaro SRD's anywhere from $600-900 if you have a shop locally, if you dont want to drop $1200+ on new ones.
This is logical thinking,
honda seats in a 240 will give me less street cred than fake brides =(
I'm quite sure this is sarcasm, lol at least I hope it is.
I really was looking at the recaro type r seats... But really I think knock off buckets would be better than Honda seats In a Nissan.
Its not a "Honda seat" its a Recaro seat that happens to come factory in a Honda, if the Honda ones scare you so much Recaro's also come in Evos too.
I had a F1Spec bucket in my Miata for 2 years. I hit concrete walls and stuff at events. Some were pretty decent, high-speed impacts, and I had no problems whatsoever, and the seat held great.
I also got a Toms Motorsports (never even heard of it, apparently popular with Honda guys?) carbon fibre bucket from my roommate. He got it from his coworker (Honda guy), and I honestly think it's the most comfortable seat I've ever sat in. Plus it's carbon fibre, so it has no flex.
From now on, I'd at least buy carbon fibre if it's not a "legit" seat, because cf does eliminate a lot of flex.
If I recall correctly Toms is actually a Toyota dedicated company. Not sure if they are still around though.
As far as this topic goes, I previously had a Bride Zeta III and it did in fact have an FIA sticker on it with specific date it expired, I don't know where this misinformation comes from that "Bride seats aren't FIA approved anyways" but it certainly isn't the truth with their whole lineup. If you guys are on that much of a budget there are plenty of low priced FIA approved seats out there, Sparco sprint and Corbeau FX1 pro come to mind. I think the real problem is many of the people on here aren't looking for something FIA approved, they want something that looks like a Bride seat because it is the cool thing to have, so they gotta have it, when in reality, nobody really knows the quality of these fakes and if there is any quality control. Honestly i'd rather have a steel framed simple sparco bucket that i know has quality control and will stand by their product vs a 2 for 1 special on ebay. just my .02
dudermagee
02-03-2011, 12:55 PM
I got my used bride Gias Sport seat with bride rail\mount for under 1100 shipped.
Its not that expensive to get the real thing if you look and wait.
nathanong87
02-03-2011, 12:56 PM
As far as this topic goes, I previously had a Bride Zeta III and it did in fact have an FIA sticker on it with specific date it expired, I don't know where this misinformation comes from that "Bride seats aren't FIA approved anyways"
yes bride DID make FIA certified seats.
JaysVQ240
02-03-2011, 01:07 PM
the dude said "integra type R recaro srd"
Do you think that is the only vehicle those seats go in? No you can go on their web site and buy the intdentical seat.. They just happened to be offered in JDM Integra Type Rs and Civic type Rs.. All BS aside youre better off paying between 600-900 for a pair of recarros and adapting them then paying 300-600/pr for knock offs.. Atleast you know what youre getting with Recarro and they are a reputable company with a racing heritage.
Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-03-2011, 01:55 PM
knockoff seats are more flexible than their real counterpart. that's why i don't like my f1spec SPG variant. that and the padding sucks.
someone should start a "real/fake bride seat picture thread"
has anyone been in a accident on the fake bride seats?
do it
I use to handle bride and recaros on a daily basis. I can spot a real from a fake just from a few pictures.
replica seats:
1. fade
2. flex or snap
3. material look's cheesy
4. Lowmax is getting overplayed
5. Mounting points get stripped out
6. stitching falls apart
7. Padding gets compacted after use and it gets really uncomfortable while driving.
9K Racing seats - bride quality but at half the price. Serious as a heart attack, already in the works with a bucket seat distributor.
BustedS13
02-03-2011, 02:16 PM
4. Lowmax is getting overplayed
christ jesus. you kids
wh0aitznic0
02-03-2011, 02:31 PM
Do you think that is the only vehicle those seats go in? No you can go on their web site and buy the intdentical seat.. They just happened to be offered in JDM Integra Type Rs and Civic type Rs.. All BS aside youre better off paying between 600-900 for a pair of recarros and adapting them then paying 300-600/pr for knock offs.. Atleast you know what youre getting with Recarro and they are a reputable company with a racing heritage.
Hey dumbass, the Recaro SRD's that come from CTR's and ITR's are an exclusive design and logo.
So are the ugly ones that come in Evo 8's and 9's.
Csomme
02-03-2011, 02:39 PM
Bride still DOES make FIA approved seats. Just a heads up.
Last time I checked Chris' car has one. lol frealz
240sxdriftin
02-03-2011, 02:43 PM
Do you think that is the only vehicle those seats go in? No you can go on their web site and buy the intdentical seat.. They just happened to be offered in JDM Integra Type Rs and Civic type Rs.. All BS aside youre better off paying between 600-900 for a pair of recarros and adapting them then paying 300-600/pr for knock offs.. Atleast you know what youre getting with Recarro and they are a reputable company with a racing heritage.
Thats cool bro. Real shit must be good for cars that stay parked... I have a track car with fake ass ebay brides in it. Guess what they work perfect. Who cares about a reputable name. I drive my car and have cheap buckets that get the job done... Comfy, and not flexi, have't faded, nor torn or gotten worn.
azsr20det
02-03-2011, 02:54 PM
i got them shitty nrg bucket seats.
costed like a hundo each brand new.
works for me too, better than the shitty ripped to fuck leather seats the car came with.
i want some legit seats tho :(
240KA
02-03-2011, 03:11 PM
buy real, or be that dude with widened steelies, fake brides, and a nrg steering wheel.
you forgot: zebra overs, dildo knob, wink mirror, squash air freshner, weapon r floor mats, aaaaaaand rubber duplicate of my balls hanging from rear tow hook.
OBEEWON
02-03-2011, 03:32 PM
you forgot: zebra overs, dildo knob, wink mirror, squash air freshner, weapon r floor mats, aaaaaaand rubber duplicate of my balls hanging from rear tow hook.
LOLOL +2
sike:-/
raz0rbladez909
02-03-2011, 03:44 PM
Thats cool bro. Real shit must be good for cars that stay parked... I have a track car with fake ass ebay brides in it. Guess what they work perfect. Who cares about a reputable name. I drive my car and have cheap buckets that get the job done... Comfy, and not flexi, have't faded, nor torn or gotten worn.
BROOOOO its a discussion no need to get your panties in a bunch, I'm glad you have a track car:goyou: but your seats aren't going to matter until that critical moment when either A. you go into a wall, or B. Someone goes into you. Only then can you say whether they worked or not, as for holding you in, any fiberglass company can make a seat that holds you in, doing it safely is another matter. But you probably know that because you drive a "track car with fake ass ebay brides in it"
240sxdriftin
02-03-2011, 03:50 PM
BROOOOO its a discussion no need to get your panties in a bunch, I'm glad you have a track car:goyou: but your seats aren't going to matter until that critical moment when either A. you go into a wall, or B. Someone goes into you. Only then can you say whether they worked or not, as for holding you in, any fiberglass company can make a seat that holds you in, doing it safely is another matter. But you probably know that because you drive a "track car with fake ass ebay brides in it"
Panties are not in a bunch... not even worth trying to argue anymore cause you dont see my point
raz0rbladez909
02-03-2011, 03:56 PM
Panties are not in a bunch... not even worth trying to argue anymore cause you dont see my point
I honestly just felt like using the word "BRO" :wavey:
Om1kron
02-03-2011, 04:14 PM
I'm not really going to state my opinion on fake shit, I will answer the question just as the OP had requested.
When I purchased my car I had a fake bride grid or brix seat in it, I don't really know the whole bride catalog off the top of my head.
The brix seat was a reclinable, it sat pretty fucking high. I felt almost like I did when I purchased Recaro SRD's before they were named something else or what not. And had that awesome feeling that I had 1200 dollars worth of couch in my car.
But did not feel awesome that I always felt like I had to slouch while driving my car because of the horrible ergonomics and the fact I'm not 110lbs like most people who ride in cars with racing seats. The legit recaro srd's which are now sports or whatever always had a "wiggle" in them so after a few drives I would have to adjust the recliner so I'm not leaning in the fucking back seat.
They made me rage, I sold them a month later to someone and replaced the seats with OEM del sol seats. Quite honestly if I could find a pair to shove in my 240sx I would. They're comfortable a fuck, they're OEM quality and pass crash tests, I would just have to make brackets for them.
I had also made custom brackets to run brand new RSX seats in one of my cars. They were also very comfortable but sat a tad high for me.
I sat in Edgar Fermans Tommy Kaira seat, and whoa momma, that is a nice seat, proper lean with great ergonomics. You can tell the people from TommyK are a little more heavy set.
All in all I can't tell the difference between a fake or a real bride, and could care fucking less. People buying FIA approved seats to drive their bumper car around a track to burn tires is pretty fucking dumb.
If you need the booster support or whatever those seats provide when doing serious racing then sure worry about fia regulations, etc when you're not dicking around instead of pretending to be a professional.
Last but not least people are busting ass to put real or fake things in their car, in the end if I'm a car thief I want to steal the easiest stuff there is to remove from your car, a size 14 and about 20 minutes I can pull two seats out of my car before someone can point a finger.
So make sure to have that linger in the back of your head while you drive a 2000 dollar lowered piece of shit with seats that say (I could be real, I could be fake) on the headrests.
Michael Nolan
02-03-2011, 04:56 PM
Chances are, not a lot of people are gunna know it's fake unless you tell them. Buy real and brag, buy fake and stfu
sidewaysil80
02-03-2011, 05:38 PM
People buying FIA approved seats to drive their bumper car around a track to burn tires is pretty fucking dumb.
If you need the booster support or whatever those seats provide when doing serious racing then sure worry about fia regulations, etc when you're not dicking around instead of pretending to be a professional.
this. i refuse to buy fia seats for a street/weekend track car. i also prefer COMFORTABLE/FAT PEOPLE FRIENDLY reclining seat. with that being said i would never buy a reclining seat (shitty gears/lock = seat snapping in half on harness bar). so i decided to go with OMP's...competitive pricing and proven reliability. what i'm getting at is with all the availible seat options and the fact that it could save you're ass in a crash...their is no reason to skimp on a knock off seat.
240KA
02-03-2011, 06:14 PM
sike:-/
hahaha, don't be mad cuz you bought half those things. give it a couple of days. once other people start laughing you'll jump on the bandwagon shortly thereafter. monkey see monkey do!!! aight?!
Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-03-2011, 06:43 PM
did you buy your 240sx in 1993? if not, shut the fuck up. you're 10 years too early to try being an elitist.
OBEEWON
02-03-2011, 07:12 PM
hahaha, don't be mad cuz you bought half those things. give it a couple of days. once other people start laughing you'll jump on the bandwagon shortly thereafter. monkey see monkey do!!! aight?!
You calling me a monkey????
would a monkey drive this!?
http://a965.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/10/l_beba27defbb010626696709f545d33c4.jpg
Sumslapper
02-03-2011, 07:25 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c156/slapping_importt/Enquire-FIA-approved-sitting-benches-Hale-many-wenches.jpg
chiboy002
02-03-2011, 08:01 PM
you forgot: zebra overs, dildo knob, wink mirror, squash air freshner, weapon r floor mats, aaaaaaand rubber duplicate of my balls hanging from rear tow hook.
you seem to be talking about two different cars
also, nwp4life has a real vs knock off thread with PLENTY of info on seats. Search it
The only FIA seat i would buy would be a driver side, FIA has a reason it approves seats and not - cause high speed accidents aren't made for weak seats. I would rather have a seat rated much higher for safety standards on a daily driver/track car than an under-rated knock off that i don't even know the info on.
Once you guys get hit from behind or tboned, or hit a damn wall or something, and your seat breaks and you snap your spinal cord you'll wish you had shelled out the extra money for some legit seats and such.
Restraint systems go hand in hand with braking systems. Without either you're pretty much putting yourself in a death trap.
Passenger seat, i couldn't give less of a fuck about
97240TB
02-03-2011, 10:23 PM
OMP Makes fairly priced FIA approved buckets... Just sayin.
slowvia
02-04-2011, 02:50 AM
Its good to hear peoples experiences and not their opinions for once! Ive been considering buying a pair of knock off Bride's for awhile, just because $600 shipped for a pair sounds a lot more reasonable than $1200 shipped each! Sorry but I work a part time, minimum wage job and just cant justify going without food for a month to put ridiculously over priced seats in my cheap ass hoopty.
I see it kinda like a little girl buying a fake Louis Vutton purse, sure it may look like shit in a year, but who cares? It's still gonna work the same.
JuMPiiN
02-04-2011, 02:54 AM
Thats how I feel, lol if the bucket does the same thing as a name brand, then why not save 1500 bucks. I work full time and go to school full time I work hella hard for parts in the car and little upgrades here and there.
BustedS13
02-04-2011, 02:59 AM
Its good to hear peoples experiences and not their opinions for once! Ive been considering buying a pair of knock off Bride's for awhile, just because $600 shipped for a pair sounds a lot more reasonable than $1200 shipped each! Sorry but I work a part time, minimum wage job and just cant justify going without food for a month to put ridiculously over priced seats in my cheap ass hoopty.
I see it kinda like a little girl buying a fake Louis Vutton purse, sure it may look like shit in a year, but who cares? It's still gonna work the same.
you make it sound like somebody has a gun to your head, telling you to buy bride seats, and you've found a loophole. you could just try lowering your aim and getting, say, some s14 seats, or r32 seats, or 350z seats, or maybe a Kirkey, or just one seat since your passenger won't be driving, and on and on.
Om1kron
02-04-2011, 04:03 AM
you make it sound like somebody has a gun to your head, telling you to buy bride seats, and you've found a loophole. you could just try lowering your aim and getting, say, some s14 seats, or r32 seats, or 350z seats, or maybe a Kirkey, or just one seat since your passenger won't be driving, and on and on.
Or you could be smart and save up for a better car and not get fake/real seats to impress people in the car you street drift in and most likely will put up for sale after eating a curb in it doing dumb shit.
(directed to op Busted replied to, not busted himself.)
Just like I said some people actually want to buy a seat on the cheap to hold them in place while drifting, I can "respect" that because I don't take drifting serious at all so why spend money on proper equipment when you can get bolt in cages and cheap bucket seats and fake wheels and shitty tires to slide the car around.
If you want people to think you have money throwing a ton of fake shit in your car walking around in 200 dollar sneakers and some LV wallet and a 40 dollar hat too big for your fucking head hoping someone is like "this guy is that dude with the dope whip."
Then yeah you're buying "fake" seats for the wrong reason.
Again real/fake all depends on your preference, willing to spend, and it's purpose.
I personally want these recaro seats, nobody has a set I can even try, I think they're stock in the porsche rs3
http://on-trackperformance.com/Recaro/CS_Black_Leather.jpg
They don't have some tacky ass logo on them, and look comfy as fuck.
dudermagee
02-04-2011, 07:42 AM
you make it sound like somebody has a gun to your head, telling you to buy bride seats, and you've found a loophole. you could just try lowering your aim and getting, say, some s14 seats, or r32 seats, or 350z seats, or maybe a Kirkey, or just one seat since your passenger won't be driving, and on and on.
This.
If I wasn't getting my seat I would get an R32 seat, from what I hear they are one of the best seats to put in the 240 that require the least amount of fab to get to fit.
s14freak93901
02-04-2011, 08:02 AM
Its good to hear peoples experiences and not their opinions for once! Ive been considering buying a pair of knock off Bride's for awhile, just because $600 shipped for a pair sounds a lot more reasonable than $1200 shipped each! Sorry but I work a part time, minimum wage job and just cant justify going without food for a month to put ridiculously over priced seats in my cheap ass hoopty.
I see it kinda like a little girl buying a fake Louis Vutton purse, sure it may look like shit in a year, but who cares? It's still gonna work the same.
i hope your not talking about zeta 3's because thats a rip off. working part time is whatever. it's called saving and not throwing it all down at once.
va240dude
02-04-2011, 08:13 AM
This.
If I wasn't getting my seat I would get an R32 seat, from what I hear they are one of the best seats to put in the 240 that require the least amount of fab to get to fit.
I thought R32 seats were direct bolt in to all S-chasis?
nathanong87
02-04-2011, 08:17 AM
yea i have r32 bride mo rail for my pass seat
edit: sike no i dont, i have s13,14,15 MO.
dudermagee
02-04-2011, 08:30 AM
I thought R32 seats were direct bolt in to all S-chasis?
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/46750-skyline-r32-seats-240sx.html
skyline r32 seats ? : 240sx General Discussion (http://forums.nicoclub.com/skyline-r32-seats-t175985.html)
3 of the 4 holes line up, I don't know about you but I wouldn't call that a direct bolt in.
ixfxi
02-04-2011, 10:54 AM
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/46750-skyline-r32-seats-240sx.html
skyline r32 seats ? : 240sx General Discussion (http://forums.nicoclub.com/skyline-r32-seats-t175985.html)
3 of the 4 holes line up, I don't know about you but I wouldn't call that a direct bolt in.
thats because you're a fucking pussy.
extend the tab and end this thread
R32/33/34 seats are the best seats ever. you guys are all idiots.
/end
chiboy002
02-04-2011, 12:51 PM
Its good to hear peoples experiences and not their opinions for once! Ive been considering buying a pair of knock off Bride's for awhile, just because $600 shipped for a pair sounds a lot more reasonable than $1200 shipped each! Sorry but I work a part time, minimum wage job and just cant justify going without food for a month to put ridiculously over priced seats in my cheap ass hoopty.
I see it kinda like a little girl buying a fake Louis Vutton purse, sure it may look like shit in a year, but who cares? It's still gonna work the same.
where the fuck are you finding brides for 1200 shipped. If you're talking about reclinable brides, then buying a knock-off reclinable bride would be stupid considering the real ones failed tests...
chiboy002
02-04-2011, 12:53 PM
thats because you're a fucking pussy.
extend the tab and end this thread
R32/33/34 seats are the best seats ever. you guys are all idiots.
/end
done deal
morals of this thread. Spend money to not kill yourself, don't and have everyone laugh at your RIP thread on zilvia
JuMPiiN
02-04-2011, 12:55 PM
Where are you guys finding r32/r33 seats? I've checked eBay.
WERDdabuilder
02-04-2011, 01:03 PM
Where are you guys finding r32/r33 seats? I've checked eBay.
http://zilvia.net/f/search.php
fuckin swear man...
use your damn head.
JuMPiiN
02-04-2011, 01:07 PM
Such a big help, every thread I found was a year or older with them for sale. But really thanks for your help I never knew what a search feature was!
oligator20
02-04-2011, 02:25 PM
Any people here have a nrg bucket? Good or bad?
azsr20det
02-04-2011, 06:24 PM
i have em.
its ok
havent crashed with it though so couldnt tell you
yingiang
02-04-2011, 06:42 PM
this is a good topic because ive actually been looking around for bride seats for my car...i want something safe in the end. if the bride rep buckets are fine then why not other than the fact that they are fake?
im not considering reclinables at all..
if any of you have bought the ebay brides from taiwan, specifically the vios 3 low max, then let us know your experience !
dudermagee
02-04-2011, 08:13 PM
thats because you're a fucking pussy.
extend the tab and end this thread
R32/33/34 seats are the best seats ever. you guys are all idiots.
/end
:Facepalm
I was just pointing that out, but you're too busy being internet tuff.
Such a big help, every thread I found was a year or older with them for sale. But really thanks for your help I never knew what a search feature was!
They pop up every month or so on here and Ebay, just keep a look out.
Also some of the vendors have them.
chiboy002
02-05-2011, 01:16 PM
Such a big help, every thread I found was a year or older with them for sale. But really thanks for your help I never knew what a search feature was!
be fucking patient. Shit doesn't come running to you when you want it
Where are you guys finding r32/r33 seats? I've checked eBay.
check upgarage, yahoo auctions, ebay, zilvia, google. GOOGLE
GOOGLE
GOOGLE
GOOGLE
FUCKING GOOGLE IT
jesus christ
JuMPiiN
02-05-2011, 01:28 PM
BIG help guy.
Brian
02-05-2011, 01:37 PM
Would you feel better knowing that you had a real seat?
Jonnie Fraz
02-05-2011, 04:08 PM
Here is a thought since I would consider a seat safety equipment. Would you buy a knockoff helmet? Or a knockoff harness? Now if you are just building a street/show car then do whatever, but if you plan on tracking your car you might want to spend the cash on the real stuff. I am not saying that you need to buy $2500.00 OMP carbon seats, but you might want to look into parts that have been tested and passed. Testing costs $$$$ and that gets passed down to the consumer.
sidewaysil80
02-05-2011, 04:25 PM
i don't think you need to go that detailed. just seats from a reputable company. if an omp seat or sparco fails...then they will come under serious fire...do you think the taiwan sweat shop will even give a shit? i'm pretty sure reputable companies will put the extra effort into making their seats reliable because they have ALOT to lose if they cut corners and it results in a bad reflection of their product.
wh0aitznic0
02-05-2011, 04:30 PM
I feel better knowing I have a real seat.
Even though mine has holes. -__-
Jonnie Fraz
02-05-2011, 06:27 PM
i don't think you need to go that detailed. just seats from a reputable company. if an omp seat or sparco fails...then they will come under serious fire...do you think the taiwan sweat shop will even give a shit? i'm pretty sure reputable companies will put the extra effort into making their seats reliable because they have ALOT to lose if they cut corners and it results in a bad reflection of their product.
This is my point...If you buy a seat from OMP, Sparco, Status, Bride, Corbeau,...ect. You at least know who made it, and if there is a problem, then you know who to go to. If it is a knockoff then you are stuck. God only know who made them.
If your seat failed it could have just as bad of results as if your belts, or helmet failed.
Tantwoforty
02-06-2011, 11:43 AM
i got this from someone who owed me money..
useing buddy club rails..
only down side is its so low its hard to slide it since the rails use that big cross bar, the lip of the seat hits it.
its very small. and im very thin.. so it holds my ass very well.
so that works for me..
although my bigger friends cant drive my car..
oops lol
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1196.snc4/154837_477230629800_681149800_5356964_8157179_n.jp g
oligator20
02-06-2011, 07:45 PM
What's that seat? taiwan bride? You said to trust good companies... Corbeau is not fia and check the price... 300$ for a seat. I think the nrg and the bride taiwan are good. You paid a lot for the name and the fia sticker.
Pure_JDM
02-06-2011, 07:54 PM
i got this from someone who owed me money..
useing buddy club rails..
only down side is its so low its hard to slide it since the rails use that big cross bar, the lip of the seat hits it.
its very small. and im very thin.. so it holds my ass very well.
so that works for me..
although my bigger friends cant drive my car..
oops lol
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1196.snc4/154837_477230629800_681149800_5356964_8157179_n.jp g
Pretty sure I have this identical knockoff... Is yours CF too?
azsr20det
02-06-2011, 08:52 PM
i got this from someone who owed me money..
useing buddy club rails..
only down side is its so low its hard to slide it since the rails use that big cross bar, the lip of the seat hits it.
its very small. and im very thin.. so it holds my ass very well.
so that works for me..
although my bigger friends cant drive my car..
oops lol
[IG]http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1196.snc4/154837_477230629800_681149800_5356964_8157179_n.jp g[/IMG]
u gotta bend the slider bar thing bro
worangejuice
02-06-2011, 09:43 PM
OEM JDM BRO haha
http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5591868/OEM-JDM-BRO.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=jdmbro2
I think Om1kron has it right so far.
I had a REAL Bride Brix II for like a month that cost me $500 and it was too high. I felt hella baller in my $2000 lowered ride haha. It defenitely held me in on tight sweeping corners. The backstory was I was taking a corner and kinda fell outta the stock banana S13 seat. So I was like "lets try a Bride out". I'm about 6'0 and the seat had my head touchin the roof and I felt stupid. So I ended up saying 'that was fun, that was a stupid impulse purchase, could probably buy a bed with $500!" Sold it for the same price though :).
http://www.vm-racing.com/magento/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/B/r/BrideBrix1_2.jpg
Had S15 stock seats and they were nice, but for the $500 for a pair still put me in the same "too expensive" boat. They didnt hug me as much as I wouldve liked. So sold em to a friend.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8MPCKJQzPA8/S3qmi97wAgI/AAAAAAAAx1U/c3ioJNiS_nA/DSC05503%5B1%5D%5B2%5D.jpg
I sat in a R32 seat and my shoulders were to wide for it (later found out you could bend the inside frame to fit) so passed on those. Felt tight though.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lVUbI0ue4Zo/TPwryBaC7nI/AAAAAAAAAvY/8MJn2IIu_hQ/s1600/s12_sky_2.jpg
Ended up with S14 seats. They were great for the $120 price i got the set for. Looked good and were comfy, didnt hug, but felt nice enough.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2486/2641/31213820003_large.jpg
I now have a '88 BMW E30 and the stock sport seats (recaro's ?) feel great! they hold tight and have top and bottom bolsters. I'd say it would be a good fit in the S-Chassis, but haven't seen 'em in a S-chassis yet.
http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bmw-e30-m3-for-sale-interior-photo-leather-seats-cracked.jpg
So just wanted to show the options and experience I've had with the different seats in the S13.
I am enticed by the Bride reclinables (fake ) seats from sonic motor. The design is pretty and no logos would look nice.
http://www.sonicmotor.com/v/vspfiles/photos/S-K608-CLR-2.jpg
Always thought the Sparco Evo 2 bucket looked good too. Heard nothing but good aboutthese, as they make bigger waist sizes too. And Sparco is FIA approved.
http://www.nppw.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/a3959e3e000e38affa945791be478a6a.jpg
JuMPiiN
02-06-2011, 09:52 PM
No lie those look hella comfy
T chop
02-06-2011, 10:41 PM
Does anyone have any PERSONAL experience with the "Canadian" Brides?
yellowxhoodie
02-06-2011, 10:59 PM
I have a Canadian bride Vios III but never got to put it in my car.
I can say it looks great, craftsmanship is good, and it feels awesome.
Wasnt really worried about the safety thing, the real Vios isnt FIA approved either so your pretty much fucked either way.
Only Brides that are FIA approved that im aware of are the Maxis III, Gardis III and Zeta III.
ixfxi
02-07-2011, 03:43 AM
r32 seats make me horny and want to touch myself
MisawaJason
02-07-2011, 03:48 AM
r32 seats make me horny and want to touch myself
BNR34 seats do the exact same thing to me
Om1kron
02-07-2011, 05:53 AM
r32 seats make me horny and want to touch myself
you fucking skinny bastard. My back is too wide for anything aftermarket.
OBEEWON
02-07-2011, 06:41 AM
Who here was killed from using a knock off seat in a accident? Raise your hand...
....thought so.
/
ixfxi
02-07-2011, 09:00 AM
BNR34 seats do the exact same thing to me
theyre not as comfortable, but theyre nice.
MisawaJason
02-07-2011, 09:21 AM
theyre not as comfortable, but theyre nice.
I owned two BNR32's while I was stationed in Japan and sat in a friends 32 that had 34 seats in it. Both were rather comfy for a DD. I just think the 34 seats look better and less dated than the 32 seats
ixfxi
02-07-2011, 09:45 PM
I owned two BNR32's while I was stationed in Japan and sat in a friends 32 that had 34 seats in it. Both were rather comfy for a DD. I just think the 34 seats look better and less dated than the 32 seats
when i'm stationed at work, my office chair is an r32 gt-r chair. my car is equipped with r34 gt-r seats
looks-wise, r34 seats win hands down. benefit is that the seatbelt harness provisions are spaced apart, whereas the r32/33 is one narrow oval which can chafe your neck
overall, i prefer the r32 seats in terms of comfort. the pinnacle seat for the s-chassis however, will be the r34. exclusive shit, you'll need to suck some serious dick to acquire them
codyace
02-07-2011, 10:05 PM
overall, i prefer the r32 seats in terms of comfort. the pinnacle seat for the s-chassis however, will be the r34. exclusive shit, you'll need to suck some serious dick to acquire them
I was able to defeat my gag reflex, and yet still couldn't score a set of decently priced/local R34 seats.
I settled with R32 seats. Fantastic daily seats. Anyone that 'loves' their fixed bucket seat in a daily is a liar. I've got an OMP bucket for track days...and while it's great for that, it's a cocksucker for daily use. I'm a normal sized guy, and still hate it. I don't need the 'street cred' to fit in with a cool-guy bucket either.
chiboy002
02-07-2011, 10:19 PM
Who here was killed from using a knock off seat in a accident? Raise your hand...
....thought so.
/
fucking lold
Tantwoforty
02-11-2011, 01:17 AM
u gotta bend the slider bar thing bro
Yeah i ended up making notches on the bar and also noched the seat a little with a round file.
Pretty sure I have this identical knockoff... Is yours CF too?
no its just like a black plastic/fiberglass backing..
i would think a real cf seat even a "knockoff" one would still be pretty pricey.
i haven't driven the car with this seat as my daily yet, so well see how that goes its very comfy to just chill in tho hugs my little 120lb ass great lol..
i would trust this crappy knock off seat in a crash more than my stock one..
much more head and neck support.
yingiang
02-11-2011, 03:02 AM
Good point by OB. Probably gonna get me some "fride" seats
nathanong87
02-11-2011, 05:10 AM
Good point by OB. Probably gonna get me some "fride" seats
http://www.shafted.de/public/Ha%20ha%202.jpg
i would trust this crappy knock off seat in a crash more than my stock one..
much more head and neck support.
your trust is misplaced... you want to trust some 'nismo' seatbelts over oem belts too?
OBEEWON
02-11-2011, 06:09 AM
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/themadchigga/Project%20cars/E90%20race%20cars/oct08007.jpg
Tantwoforty
02-11-2011, 06:15 AM
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/98/l_637fa6f29919403eb5b25b01b60d84e2.jpg
...bucket seat..
codyace
02-11-2011, 06:45 AM
Recaro vs. Bride Crash Test Simulation - Honda-Tech (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2515624)
THose are 'real' seats getting banged up. Imagine fakers.
yingiang
02-11-2011, 06:58 AM
Wasn't considering the reclineables but good informative link. I'd like to see something on the buckets. This debate could go on forever as everyone is just stuck on fake/real but I really want to know if the buckets are okay regardless if they are fake.
codyace
02-11-2011, 07:27 AM
Wasn't considering the reclineables but good informative link. I'd like to see something on the buckets. This debate could go on forever as everyone is just stuck on fake/real but I really want to know if the buckets are okay regardless if they are fake.
I look at it this way:
If Fake really 'was' that good, then why don't they ever get used compeitivly?
I'm not saying we all need 1500 seats, but when you can get name brand quality for 350-450...why not...
yellowxhoodie
02-11-2011, 07:50 AM
Recaro vs. Bride Crash Test Simulation - Honda-Tech (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2515624)
THose are 'real' seats getting banged up. Imagine fakers.
You're comparing apples to oranges...
Both of those seats are reclinable, most people here are asking about buckets.
And if its not FIA approved either way who gives a shit?
Do you think Bride Japan has some special material they use that makes their NON FIA approved seats better than knockoff NON FIA approved seats?
If its not FIA approved i dont see the harm in buying a knockoff, either way if you get in a bad accident your taking a risk.
Buying a knockoff of a real seat that IS FIA approved is a different story though.
nathanong87
02-11-2011, 07:52 AM
Buying a knockoff of a real seat that IS FIA approved is a different story though.
wait what?....
ixfxi
02-11-2011, 09:07 AM
http://www.bluebomber.com/car/crashed/DSC03379s.JPG
DAYMN
you guys w/ knockoff shit are FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
say hello to million dollar medical bills, fuckers!
yellowxhoodie
02-11-2011, 10:44 AM
wait what?....
im saying if you buy a real seat thats FIA approved, the equivalent knockoff (if there is one) is probably not FIA approved.
Real companies spend money to get their shit approved.
Companies that make knockoffs dont give a fuck who approves of the seat as long as it looks the same or similar to the real deal.
JuMPiiN
02-11-2011, 10:51 AM
http://www.bluebomber.com/car/crashed/DSC03379s.JPG
DAYMN
you guys w/ knockoff shit are FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
say hello to million dollar medical bills, fuckers!
Again, those look like reclinable eBay "racing seats". I think most people like myself were asking about te bucket seats, I'm wondering if there just as good as plain S13 stocks in a wreck I'm sure a knock off bucket would be better than a 93 or 96 stock seat.
clay9110
02-11-2011, 12:25 PM
Well bride doesnt spend the time and get most of there shit approved so what is that saying about them?
Also you guys are saying that something like a kirkley seat from jegs is unsafe since its "cheap"?
yellowxhoodie
02-11-2011, 01:57 PM
Again, those look like reclinable eBay "racing seats". I think most people like myself were asking about te bucket seats, I'm wondering if there just as good as plain S13 stocks in a wreck I'm sure a knock off bucket would be better than a 93 or 96 stock seat.
If your sure than why are you asking?
Well bride doesnt spend the time and get most of there shit approved so what is that saying about them?
Also you guys are saying that something like a kirkley seat from jegs is unsafe since its "cheap"?
Why would they waste money trying to get a reclinable seat FIA appoved?
Look at the seats that are approved. Maxis III, Gardis III, Zeta III. Why do you think they cost so much money?
Are Kirkley seats FIA approved? I dont think ive ever seen anything anywhere saying they are.
nikkisixx69
02-11-2011, 02:08 PM
i have a genuine bride seat, it looks the tits but the thing is fucking tiny!!!!!!
wh0aitznic0
02-11-2011, 02:19 PM
You guys do know that you can make ANY bucket seat FIA approved, right?
vas570sx
02-11-2011, 02:25 PM
You guys do know that you can make ANY bucket seat FIA approved, right?
elaborate please
JuMPiiN
02-11-2011, 02:34 PM
What do you mean if I'm sure why am I asking, I made this thread for a debate asking questions between legit buckets and knock off buckets. Idc if it's a knock off bride or legit I'm wondering if the knock bucket is the same as a non fia approved bucket that's name brand. I was also wondering from some of the more experienced people on the forum who have probably had knock off's and now have real what the differences were and if there was a major difference if your just paying for the name.
If the Taiwan is poorly made I understand, I personally just want to get rid of my stock seats Bc they suck IMO. If a knock off bucket is safer than a stock seat ( which I don't really see why it wouldn't be ) then why not buy one ? Thats what I'm getting at personally.
OBEEWON
02-11-2011, 03:25 PM
i have a genuine bride seat, it looks the tits but the thing is fucking tiny!!!!!!
Your input has shed valuable light.
nwmrkt
02-11-2011, 04:46 PM
elaborate please
brace behind the seat i believe, from say a cage./
correct me if not
Tantwoforty
02-11-2011, 07:22 PM
I look at my reclineable 20 year old ripped seat and i look at my sonic motors group buy bride bucket knockoff and i still see that my knockoff provides far far better support. The lower end hugs my hips so nice i have very little play.
There Is much more head and neck support for my size body and height.
Its mounted properly with new stainless bolts from rainbow bolt co unless it broke in half and sever my body with sharp fiberglass i think Im fine.
Think about it if you crash with enough force your pretty fucked anyway...
At least this seat fully supports my particular body very well.
Im 6 feet tall and 120lbs..
I think if your seat fits you then your good.
I don't think you should never buy a real seat. But i think most of you guys are being unrealistic and closed minded.
Not all of us want to spend that much on a seat.
But some of us are mart enough to only use a fake seat that fits your body like a glove and use extremely strong mounting hardware.
/rant. I like my seat. And ill bet it tests better than my 20 year old stock reclineable ripped seat.
wh0aitznic0
02-11-2011, 08:17 PM
elaborate please
Horizontal bar from cage just about touching the back of the bucket itself.
yellowxhoodie
02-11-2011, 11:48 PM
I look at my reclineable 20 year old ripped seat and i look at my sonic motors group buy bride bucket knockoff and i still see that my knockoff provides far far better support. The lower end hugs my hips so nice i have very little play.
There Is much more head and neck support for my size body and height.
Its mounted properly with new stainless bolts from rainbow bolt co unless it broke in half and sever my body with sharp fiberglass i think Im fine.
Think about it if you crash with enough force your pretty fucked anyway...
At least this seat fully supports my particular body very well.
Im 6 feet tall and 120lbs..
I think if your seat fits you then your good.
I don't think you should never buy a real seat. But i think most of you guys are being unrealistic and closed minded.
Not all of us want to spend that much on a seat.
But some of us are mart enough to only use a fake seat that fits your body like a glove and use extremely strong mounting hardware.
/rant. I like my seat. And ill bet it tests better than my 20 year old stock reclineable ripped seat.
Who cares how tight or snug it fits your body? That is absolutely no representation of how it will hold up in any collision.
Tantwoforty
02-12-2011, 05:03 AM
Who cares how tight or snug it fits your body? That is absolutely no representation of how it will hold up in any collision.
define hold up..
keep my body in one place and prevent some injury's far better than a stock sear ever could..
or like explode on impact and sever my spine with sharp fiberglass...
show me a side by side to this and a bride in a crash test...
yellowxhoodie
02-12-2011, 09:06 AM
There are no comparisons, thats why this thread exists.
But your post is saying how you feel the seat will hold up good in an accident and protect you just based off of how snug you fit. That has nothing to do with it.
howyfeltersnatch
03-22-2011, 08:47 PM
so whats the opinion on NRG seats? right now im trying to figure out if the carbon fiber ones i have are knockoffs or real...
says NRG innovations on it. and the guy who bought them and put them in my car i bought off him said he paid over a g..
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr356/boosted30rej25/104_0232.jpg
http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr356/boosted30rej25/104_0233.jpg
ixfxi
03-22-2011, 08:57 PM
define hold up..
keep my body in one place and prevent some injury's far better than a stock sear ever could..
or like explode on impact and sever my spine with sharp fiberglass...
show me a side by side to this and a bride in a crash test...
you sir, are wrong.
There are no comparisons, thats why this thread exists.
But your post is saying how you feel the seat will hold up good in an accident and protect you just based off of how snug you fit. That has nothing to do with it.
and you sir, are right.
might as well buy something legit and not worry about owning cheap shit
so whats the opinion on NRG seats? right now im trying to figure out if the carbon fiber ones i have are knockoffs or real...
says NRG innovations on it. and the guy who bought them and put them in my car i bought off him said he paid over a g..
nrg? NRG?
nrg *is* knockoff, isnt it? ive never considered them a real company. i mean, what do they know about seats? last i checked their products were pretty much a copy of works-bell, which is real deal. nrg.. pssssh
howyfeltersnatch
03-22-2011, 09:16 PM
you sir, are wrong.
nrg? NRG?
nrg *is* knockoff, isnt it? ive never considered them a real company. i mean, what do they know about seats? last i checked their products were pretty much a copy of works-bell, which is real deal. nrg.. pssssh
lol news to me. ive only sat in 5 sets of aftermarket type** seats and these are the only ones i am inlove with.
momo's in a 240= uncomfortable
recarros in a slobalt= hated
sparcos in a s14= terrible
tenzo R's in a honda= ok but cheap
nathanong87
03-22-2011, 09:29 PM
so whats the opinion on NRG seats? right now im trying to figure out if the carbon fiber ones i have are knockoffs or real...
says NRG innovations on it. and the guy who bought them and put them in my car i bought off him said he paid over a g..
nrg are real nrg. whatever that means to you.
kognition
03-22-2011, 10:16 PM
I can certainly see your point about money and priorities. And having grown up in Eugene as a kid, jobs were always hard to find. So yes, knock off seats are the choice for half the guys out there in the world. I have been thinking about making seats this summer. One thing about the knock offs is that they flex like hell.
Its good to hear peoples experiences and not their opinions for once! Ive been considering buying a pair of knock off Bride's for awhile, just because $600 shipped for a pair sounds a lot more reasonable than $1200 shipped each! Sorry but I work a part time, minimum wage job and just cant justify going without food for a month to put ridiculously over priced seats in my cheap ass hoopty.
I see it kinda like a little girl buying a fake Louis Vutton purse, sure it may look like shit in a year, but who cares? It's still gonna work the same.
chiboy002
03-22-2011, 10:25 PM
One thing about the knock offs is that they flex like hell.
THIS
my fake bride, jesus christ if i rest my head against the back and push with my neck the damn spinal area compresses and pushes inwards and away. It's bolted up and torqued down to a buddy club rail (suck) so its not the bolts that are loose, its the damn seat itself that is weak
ixfxi
03-23-2011, 10:42 AM
lol news to me. ive only sat in 5 sets of aftermarket type** seats and these are the only ones i am inlove with.
momo's in a 240= uncomfortable
recarros in a slobalt= hated
sparcos in a s14= terrible
tenzo R's in a honda= ok but cheap
there is only one company i trust my money with, when it comes to seats
recaro.
thats it. they make seats. everyone else makes shit.
its either recaro, or recaro (oem).
recaro. PERIOD. make this shit like communism, there should be NO fucking other choice when it comes to seats, for ANYONE.
Touge Whore
03-23-2011, 11:36 AM
there is only one company i trust my money with, when it comes to seats
recaro.
thats it. they make seats. everyone else makes shit.
its either recaro, or recaro (oem).
recaro. PERIOD. make this shit like communism, there should be NO fucking other choice when it comes to seats, for ANYONE.
Agreed 100% Recaro makes an awesome product...
burtonrida133
03-23-2011, 11:57 AM
I have Corbeau A4's right now...and am looking at getting a set of Sonic Motor bucket's...do you think the sonic motor would be better than the reclining Corbeau's that i have now? i have a 4 point cage with harness bar and G-Force 4 point harnesses...anything will help thanks!
Persona
03-23-2011, 12:54 PM
I think if you crash with the Sonic Motors you have a great chance of getting messed the fawk up.
But they look cool, which is what everyone in this thread with knock off's seems to care about.
dking240sx
03-23-2011, 01:00 PM
Best comfortable seat would be evo 8 recaros. I used to have fake seats they bent like crazy
burtonrida133
03-23-2011, 01:00 PM
so saying you think they are safer than my reclinable Corbeau A4's?
Persona
03-23-2011, 01:09 PM
I think you would be flushing your money down the toilet and video taping it than buying no name buckets.
dat411kid
03-23-2011, 02:56 PM
The reasons why people buy knock offs...
There cheap & They look cool.
The reason why people buy "real deal"...
There proven and are quality.
Which one of these matter most to you in regards to your safety?
Boom, theres your answer.
Spend the money.
Touge Whore
03-23-2011, 02:59 PM
Yeah, seats and safety equipment aren't really something I would go cheap on. Can you really put a price on your health?
sftmb
03-23-2011, 03:15 PM
I think it's more of a comparison of reclinable seat vs full bucket. the fact that they're knock-off or not isn't neccessarily the big issue during a collision. I ended up buying an SP2 seat through Sonic Motor's group buy, then 2 weeks after getting it installed, I got into a 50mph collision from the front left quarter panel from a chevy silverado. I had stock seat belts with the bucket, and I had no issues at all. the seat didn't flex on me, and held me in tight so I didn't go flying out of my seat. The collision was so bad, it sent shock waves into my roof, so it was definitely no minor fender bender. lol oh, I also had nagisa rails.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24498_1360347136191_1456937958_949175_3051886_n.jp g
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/24498_1360347296195_1456937958_949179_2030026_n.jp g
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/24498_1360347536201_1456937958_949185_2174914_n.jp g
with that said, my car was a street car not a race car. but, I probably was better off with a full bucket, than a 20 year old reclinable seat. reason being, is that the first thing to go in a seat during a collision is the back adjustment. so chances are my upper portion of the seat could have broken, leaving my whole upper body free to move around depending on the angle of the crash. if you don't know what I mean, check these out.
YouTube - Bride Rear Impact Crash Test Simulation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Qsd4-8IMo)
YouTube - RECARO Rear Impact Crash Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xoauIutCmc&feature=related)
overall, I think that having some kind of a solid bucket over any reclineable seat is an improvement in an S13.whether it be stock, knock-off, or even legit. another big key thing guys are missing too are harness/seat belt positions. if those are mounted incorrectly your can be screwed regardless of what seat you have. but that's a whole 'nother ball game ;)
RichieSR20
03-23-2011, 03:20 PM
I have Corbeau FX1 Pro seats. Bought them brand new, each for like 299. Also got Corbeau seat brackets. I'm 6'2, so if you don't mind having your head about an inch away from the headliner, then you're okay! Also, I tighten them about every month because the allen bolts come loose and they creak around every turn and it gets pretty annoying...
I'm planning on selling them soon, then doing what I should have done in the first place and saving up for some Sparco Corsa's.
burtonrida133
03-23-2011, 03:27 PM
I think it's more of a comparison of reclinable seat vs full bucket. the fact that they're knock-off or not isn't neccessarily the big issue during a collision. I ended up buying an SP2 seat through Sonic Motor's group buy, then 2 weeks after getting it installed, I got into a 50mph collision from the front left quarter panel from a chevy silverado. I had stock seat belts with the bucket, and I had no issues at all. the seat didn't flex on me, and held me in tight so I didn't go flying out of my seat. The collision was so bad, it sent shock waves into my roof, so it was definitely no minor fender bender. lol oh, I also had nagisa rails.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24498_1360347136191_1456937958_949175_3051886_n.jp g
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/24498_1360347296195_1456937958_949179_2030026_n.jp g
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/24498_1360347536201_1456937958_949185_2174914_n.jp g
with that said, my car was a street car not a race car. but, I probably was better off with a full bucket, than a 20 year old reclinable seat. reason being, is that the first thing to go in a seat during a collision is the back adjustment. so chances are my upper portion of the seat could have broken, leaving my whole upper body free to move around depending on the angle of the crash. if you don't know what I mean, check these out.
YouTube - Bride Rear Impact Crash Test Simulation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Qsd4-8IMo)
YouTube - RECARO Rear Impact Crash Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xoauIutCmc&feature=related)
overall, I think that having some kind of a solid bucket over any reclineable seat is an improvement in an S13.whether it be stock, knock-off, or even legit. another big key thing guys are missing too are harness/seat belt positions. if those are mounted incorrectly your can be screwed regardless of what seat you have. but that's a whole 'nother ball game ;)
perfect thank you.
bluebomber
04-16-2011, 09:23 PM
http://www.bluebomber.com/car/crashed/DSC03379s.JPG
DAYMN
you guys w/ knockoff shit are FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
say hello to million dollar medical bills, fuckers!
Again, those look like reclinable eBay "racing seats". I think most people like myself were asking about te bucket seats, I'm wondering if there just as good as plain S13 stocks in a wreck I'm sure a knock off bucket would be better than a 93 or 96 stock seat.
Hey there, I noticed someone linked my picture of the car crash, so I thought I'd join to tell about it.
They are not fake seats, though. They are real deal JDM Honda Integra Type-R Recaro seats. The reason they both twisted is because when the wreck happened, each seat was only being held in with 3 bolts instead of 4.
Make sure your seats are always bolted in properly! Otherwise this could happen, regardless of whether or not it's a knock off.
Both people in that car survived with only minor injuries. The other car's occupants were all fine as well.
ixfxi
04-17-2011, 09:48 AM
Hey there, I noticed someone linked my picture of the car crash, so I thought I'd join to tell about it.
They are not fake seats, though. They are real deal JDM Honda Integra Type-R Recaro seats. The reason they both twisted is because when the wreck happened, each seat was only being held in with 3 bolts instead of 4.
Make sure your seats are always bolted in properly! Otherwise this could happen, regardless of whether or not it's a knock off.
Both people in that car survived with only minor injuries. The other car's occupants were all fine as well.
dont come to this forum and lie to us, buddy
you installed them with 3 bolts because its the cool way to do it, it gives you the gangsta lean.
this songs dedicated, to my homies, in the gangsta LEAAAAAAAAAN
i tip my 40 to your memory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
bluebomber
04-18-2011, 01:51 AM
Actually, this was my roommate's car. He bought the seats from me and only installed 3 bolts because he didn't feel like adjusting them to fit all 4. He is a little impatient that way sometimes.
I wasn't in the car at the time, luckily.
240mike1022
04-18-2011, 05:37 AM
Yea I've had seats before in one of my previous cars where they were bucket but the driver side waas held down right but the p/s wasn't never again would I ever I mean ever have some seats that are bolted down by less than provided
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