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TerminalSamurai
01-18-2011, 12:15 PM
So I was reading into electric water pumps when I ran across Home » Engine Cooling Systems (http://www.evanscooling.com/) a non water based coolant. After some serious reading (during my all day work break) I can see the benefit of running this stuff. My only question is, has anyone run this within the Zilvia community?

I will not go into how this stuff works, but it would makes sense to do some research of your own before posting your two cents about cooling systems;

Links:
Home » Engine Cooling Systems (http://www.evanscooling.com/)
Water-based vs Waterless Differentiators » Engine Cooling Systems (http://www.evanscooling.com/water-based-vs-waterless-differentiators/)

Thoughts:
Has anyone run this in there setup? If so, what negative side effects have you seen?

codyace
01-18-2011, 02:39 PM
First thing I'd look into is if it's legal for on track use.

And another thing to consider, is that while it may boil higher...I certainly would not want to run super hot anyway. I guess to me it may be a mod that really doesn't provide any 'exceptional' result that you wouldn't get from water as it is.

(As in, what true advantages over water does it get me)

TerminalSamurai
01-18-2011, 03:43 PM
From what I took away from what I read the primary advantages of this setup was:
a much higher boiling point, boiling coolant = vapor = air = extremely hot metal.
Also when coolant boils and vaporises it must re-condense, but water will only re-condense in an area that is cooler than the boiling point of the water in the pressurized system (radiator, perhaps a swirl pot). The other added benefit would be that there is no corrosion factor as there is with a water based system, nor any negative pressure side effects (broken hoses, springing a leak would be far less likely.

The reason you don't want to run your platform hot is because 'hot' is where your coolant boils, and when your coolant boils your in trouble. Theres running 'hot' then theres running no coolant against your water passages hot.

codyace
01-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Again, I understand how and why it's all how it works and is

But my car doesn't overheat with water. Whats the advnatage to swap over? I'm just super skpetical of most of this stuff.

TheRealSy90
01-18-2011, 08:50 PM
That's what i'm wondering. If your cooling system is up to par and does fine with water out on the track. What's the advantage?

If i'm reading it correctly, it sounds like this stuff allows your motor to run hotter before the coolant begins to "boil/overheat".

I'd be more interested if this stuff can drop more degrees in temperature by the time it makes it out of the radiator than distilled water can.

dopplganger1
01-18-2011, 09:05 PM
Coolants » Engine Cooling Systems (http://www.evanscooling.com/coolants/) that explains all the different coolant they offer and two are for track use were they do not allow regular coolant

surfpac
02-04-2011, 02:52 PM
Rotary guys been using these for a few years. a buddy of mine back in 2001 bought some for his rotary and it worked nice, but dude 1 gallon was like $30-40 and that's 10 years ago. BTW, the Koenigsegg uses them from factory so you know that stuff works well and it ain't poisonous. Problem I see with that is if you ever get a leak and you don't have any handy, you're screwed and you just wasted a bunch of money.

If you want a good coolant for our aluminum engines go to a Honda dealer and get some of their OEM coolant. I typically run 75% distilled water/25% coolant. But I also run Audi 90 dual fan setup and Koyo aluminum radiator. No cooling issues at all, even in So Florida, with AC on.

scottie
02-04-2011, 03:23 PM
I run Evans Waterless Coolant. It works. Period.

Def
02-04-2011, 03:27 PM
BMWs blue coolant is awesome at preventing corrosion. It's like $18/gallon from a dealer, and you can sit in a new M3 and feel swank for 30 seconds before going back to your ratty S chassis.

The propylene glycol stuff is kinda meh in my book. More disadvantages than advantages, and I'm sure it's slippery as hell at 100% concentration if you spill any.