Agency Power SS clutch line review

[One_love_silvia]

So I got the AP clutch line and have been waiting to install it since xmas, so i finally did this last week end. il post some pics up tomorrow.

At first i thought it was just supposed to go from the hard line to the rubber hose, but after researching, i found out it actually replaces the rubber hose. Because of this, you have to bend the hard line regardless to get it to feed into the SS line.

SO my overall recommendation would be, if you don't wana spend $40 on a clutch line, simply toss out that pos clutch dampener, and CAREFULLY bend the hard line until you can get it to feed into the rubber hose. you're also going to need a bottle of brake/clutch fluid in order to do this as you need to bleed the clutch after it is installed.

i personally used dot 3/4 valvoline synthetic brake fluid. from what ive read from everyone else who has done this dampener removal, its supposed to make your clutch pedal feel stiffer and give you more clutch feel. however, with my line, my clutch pedal is actually softer, but it has a much smoother feel to it now, and feels like it engages the clutch smoother.

i don't know how it would have felt if i just used the rubber hose, so i cant comment on that. my overall impression of the product thus far is, it is mainly for aesthetic reasons and MAYBE for more durability compared to the rubber line, but its not worth the money just for those reasons alone.

i hope this review helps someone, and i apologize if my paragraphs have bad transitions, im just typing as i think things in my head. this was my first review so i hope its not too bad and helps ppl out xD

[chiboy002]

uuuuuuuh what? The line is supposed to replace everything.

When you remove the damper, remove the rubber line into the slave cylinder as well. Make sure the 90* bend is at the reservoir. Some company a while ago made one that was perfect, it had both sides with a 90* bend which saves a lot of worries when dirt dropping or driving low. As the straight side can break off and your fucked.

When you remove the damper as well, make sure you adjust your clutch so it comes out further. The point is to have the engagement point sooner so it can force more fluid and provide a better force, that's probably why it feels soggy for you, since it's not pushing as much fluid as it should.

You shouldn't bend any hardlines, when i did mine i took everything out and bending a hardline by hand is a great way to kink it, get a pipe and slowly heat up the hardline and SLOWLY wrap it around the pipe to the desired angle, if you don't have the proper tools.

Agency power is nice, cheap and effective, but THMotorsports has someone who makes custom lines for them, cheap as shit too, i was quoted like 50$ for my line?, and it can be the length i want it and have both 90* bends. I just hate how the agency power line is like 1 foot longer than it needs to be, it hangs all over the place.


Edit: nevermind, it seems like you bought the small line. Should have bought the Auto-to-manual line as it replaces everything from the master to the slave.

[One_love_silvia]

thanks for the input, but i think i have you confused with which line i have...lol

the line i have is just to replace the rubber hose and is about 9 inches long i would guestimate. the line you're thinking of is the entire clutch line for the auto to manual conversion. my car is an all natural 5 speed

what u think i am talking about: Agency Power Auto to Manual Conversion Clutch Line Nissan 240sx [ AP-240-411 ] - Enjuku Racing - Performance Parts and High Quality Fabrication (http://www.enjukuracing.com/agency-power-auto-manual-conversion-clutch-line-nissan-240sx-p-6470.html)

what i have: Agency Power Stainless Clutch Line - Nissan 240sx [ AP-S13-400 ] - Enjuku Racing - Performance Parts and High Quality Fabrication (http://www.enjukuracing.com/agency-power-stainless-clutch-line-nissan-240sx-p-6471.html)

as im typing this, it seems like uve edited ur post and now have realized this... so il just post this anyways to clear anyone elses confusion if it so happens

edit: and as for kinking the hardline, you dont need to really bend it all that much angle wise. just bend the line so it turns around to face the short line. the pics i post tomorrow will explain this better than i have. as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words (or somethin like that...lolz)

[slow40sx]

i have the auto to manual line from agency power, my car isn't an auto to manual converted car but i got the isis ss short line and it leaked so i decided to replace both lines with one, makes more sense to me, took about 5 minutes to install and i love it

[PomiDori]

I'm using Agency power clutch line from hydro to rear brakes and its perfect fit.

[One_love_silvia]

im glad to see that it seems AP has pretty quality stuff when it atleast comes to lines =P looks like this thread might be makin them some money haha

[One_love_silvia]

and pics as promised http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/deathsreaper200/HPIM3353.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/deathsreaper200/HPIM3355.jpg
this second one shows how we bent the hardline to run into the SS line

[c-los13]

when i took off the uselles dampener box i just bent the hard line a bit everything and came out good...well
there is actually a bit of lag on the pedal that's why i ordered the circuit sports auto to manual clutch line off frsport (theyre awesome!)
i should get it this Friday...i hope the lag goes away...my engagement is horrible (all the way on the top) but its the only way the pedal comes up all the way.
ill post some pics as well
im sure many ppl (including me) wonder the quality of these products
ill get back to this on Friday.

[One_love_silvia]

Thanks for the input! So I'm guessing u just kept the rubber hose when u did that. Did u put any kinks in the hardline at all? If not then I guess we know what happens when u keep the rubber hose!

[chiboy002]

yeah i edited my post specifying i was confused.

Agency power makes decent lines, but i would honestly rather have something more beefier. The line is thin as shit for teflon/stainless steel.

Slow40sx

same, i got the auto-to-manual for a non-converted car. Shit fits a little too long but does the job

The red is kinda lame though lol, black or silver preferred

[doomviillain]

what if I delete the SS line and run the hardline straight to the slave cylinder?
Would this be better or for worse?

[c-los13]

i dont think i put any kinks on the line One Love Silvia
i bent em SUPER CAREFULLY
i know another guy w an s13 and his engagement is messed up too
im gonna try to fix my engagement after i put the ss line
chiboy002 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/chiboy002.html) ..did you notice any difference when you replace the hardline w the ss one?????

[c-los13]

what if I delete the SS line and run the hardline straight to the slave cylinder?
Would this be better or for worse?

i think itd be the same, the auto to manual conversion line goes from the master to the salve so yeah
but......i dont think the end of the line coming from the master would fit the slave..im not a 100 percent sure though

[chiboy002]

what if I delete the SS line and run the hardline straight to the slave cylinder?
Would this be better or for worse?
Hardline is better than ss lines because they won't "flex" when a lot of pressure is added. This pressure won't be seen unless you have a massive master cylinder and a heavy stage clutch with a lot of spring force. You should be fine, just make sure there is enough "spring" so it doesn't kink when the transmission moves (it slightly moves unless you have solid mounts)


chiboy002 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/chiboy002.html) ..did you notice any difference when you replace the hardline w the ss one?????
nothing really, it does feel a TAD bit more soft and the engagement isn't as noticable anymore. (it used to go from soft to somewhat harder to push)

but nothing really

[One_love_silvia]

(it used to go from soft to somewhat harder to push)


exactly. instead of this its just a solid soft push now.

[codyace]

Hardline is better than ss lines because they won't "flex" when a lot of pressure is added. This pressure won't be seen unless you have a massive master cylinder and a heavy stage clutch with a lot of spring force. You should be fine, just make sure there is enough "spring" so it doesn't kink when the transmission moves (it slightly moves unless you have solid mounts)


You honestly shouldn't feel *any* flex in a stainless steel flexible brake line either.


For the O/P check out the official clutch thread for a DIY stainless line kit.

[c-los13]

sooooo i installed my ss line
it fits good and everything
but it feels totally the same
there it goes to anybody that wants to purchase it
well....the bleeding was SUPER fast but thats about it