View Full Version : US Legal Issues of Engine Swaping
kkw4p
09-10-2003, 12:46 PM
There has been some confusion about how legal engine swapping (in the US) is on some of the forums that I'm on.. so I did the research. I called the EPA and was referred to the following site:
http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/engswitch.pdf
Page 2, second to last paragraph implicitly forbids swapping foreign engines into American cars. Not that I care, I'm going to do it anyway.. but we can put this issue to rest.
FAQ please?
Siizzzoooo
09-10-2003, 12:50 PM
just dont get caught and u'll be fine
DuffMan
09-10-2003, 02:04 PM
Everythings legal until you get caught
Dousan_PG
09-10-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by kkw4p
There has been some confusion about how legal engine swapping (in the US) is on some of the forums that I'm on.. so I did the research. I called the EPA and was referred to the following site:
http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/engswitch.pdf
Page 2, second to last paragraph implicitly forbids swapping foreign engines into American cars. Not that I care, I'm going to do it anyway.. but we can put this issue to rest.
FAQ please?
woah your such a smart guy. you answered the question that had been answered a very long time ago. genius.
nokeone
09-10-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
woah your such a smart guy. you answered the question that had been answered a very long time ago. genius.
HAHAHA...you mean it's NOT legal to put a non emissions conforming engine into your car?!?!?..in fact an engine that wasn't even sold in this country in the turbocharged form..well this is news to me...;)
SO WAIT GUYS ISNT THERE A LOOPHOLE OR SOMETHING THAT I CAN USE TO DRIVE MY SR IN MY CAR WHEN IT GETS HERE IF NOT I AM SCREWED O NO I JUST READ ABOUT GUY IN NJ THAT GOT HIS BABY IMPOUNDED I WOULD BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THE COPS IF THEY EVER DID THAT TO MY CAR MAN I JUST ORDERED A FRONT CLIP FROM MY SHOP MY HOMIES THERE GAVE ME A REAL GOOD PRICE BUT I NEED A SHOP TO INSTALL IT FOR ME AND IM REAL WORRIED NOW THAT IT WILL BE ILLEGAL AND POPO WILL BE ON MY ASS MAN I KNOW I SHOULD SAVE UP FOR AN RB BECAUSE ITS A SKYLINE AND THE SKYLINE IS LEGAL IN THE US SO THE RB IS LEGAL RIGHT MAN I KNOW RB IS THE WAY TO GO DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DOES ANYONE WANT TO BUY A FRONT CLIP FROM ME FOR S14 REDTOP 4000 THANKS
Siizzzoooo
09-10-2003, 02:47 PM
cool, they made an S14 redtop:eek:
DuffMan
09-10-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Siizzzoooo
cool, they made an S14 redtop:eek:
Yep, I paid 4000 for mine. It was the best s14 engine.
I wonder why the tag says 180sx though :confused:
NO YOU GOT IT WRONG 180SX WAS ONLY SOLD BLACK MARKET TO AUSTRALIA AND THERE NEVAR WAS A S14 180SX ONLY THE S14 SIL80SX WHICH WAS SOLD LIMITED TO ENGLAND WITH A REDTOP CA TUNED BY NISMO AND AUTECH SORRY BUDDY YOU GOT A CA WHICH IS CRAP I WOULD RATHER HAVE A KA TURBO THAN THAT HAHAHAHAHAHA
kkw4p
09-10-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
woah your such a smart guy. you answered the question that had been answered a very long time ago. genius.
It wasn't answered if there are so many people debating if it's legal.
Flybert
09-10-2003, 04:53 PM
It wasn't answered if there are so many people debating if it's legal.
No! We have foolios like you who don't use the search button and think they are gods gift to the board for bringing up this S H I T over and over again. The information in your link has been passed around many times so don't think you're doing any of us a favor, especially the people that read this thing all the time.
nokeone
09-10-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by kkw4p
It wasn't answered if there are so many people debating if it's legal.
just because the morons of the world debate something doesn't mean you are smart for coming up with an answer that already exists...:rolleyes:
the reason people are making so much fun should tell you that it was already answered...not one person has come on here and posted.."oh really?..wow, thanks for answering that one"...
and where was this debate?...kindergarden this morning?
kkw4p
09-10-2003, 04:58 PM
My bad.
nokeone
09-10-2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by kkw4p
My bad.
just remember to take everything with a grain of salt..and don't stop posting..
noobs always get treated the worst...
u'll get used to it..;)
just don't let :mrmeph: like me scare ya off...
Siizzzoooo
09-10-2003, 06:23 PM
lol, i hope you guys knew i was being sarcastic
sykikchimp
09-10-2003, 06:50 PM
dude.. you getting the initiation flame.. everybody gets it once.. or twice.. or..
aahh.. STOOPID N00B~~!! lol
Muzzy
09-10-2003, 06:59 PM
ruf....wut u mean black market (refering to austrailia) like illeagal?
and when u say S14 red top..do u mean silvia(S14) or actually a kouki 180sx(S13)
NO NO THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME CUZ I WAS GOING TO DO THE SR SWAP AND MY SHOP TOLE ME THAT I COULD DO IT AND IT WOULD BE LEGAL AS A KIT CAR IF I SWAP THE VIN NUMBERS BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE I WILL HAVE TO GO WITH AN RB30DETT WHICH CAME STOCK IN AUSTRALIA I WILL TRY TO GO HAVE MY FRIEND WHO HAS A WIFE WHO IS JAPANESE GET ME A TOMEI CRATE ENGINE BECAUSE IT IS PREPPED FOR JGTC WITH A GROUP N1 BLOCK AND IS MUCH LIGHTER THAN A REGULAR RB30DETT
Muzzy
09-10-2003, 09:16 PM
damn..a tomei crate motor???
u got some serious cash and be a hard core racer
drift freaq
09-10-2003, 11:04 PM
but but but ruf . you forgot about the bluetop SR23 stroker that puts out 800hp I bet you could get that as a kit car engine.
oH damn screw it just run a RB27 out of a skyline R34 GTRRRRRRRV5 thats definitely legal. oh mr mephistopheles were are you? come lock this thread now. ahahhahahhahahaha
Yoshi
09-10-2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by drift freaq
but but but ruf . you forgot about the bluetop SR23 stroker that puts out 800hp I bet you could get that as a kit car engine.
oH damn screw it just run a RB27 out of a skyline R34 GTRRRRRRRV5 thats definitely legal. oh mr mephistopheles were are you? come lock this thread now. ahahhahahhahahaha
DOODE! SHUT UP!!!
you KNOW you're not supposed to mention that sh|t in front of the newbs!!! How do we know he's not some civic guy from SRO just trying to learn out secrets! Mod your post!
MyFirst240SX
09-10-2003, 11:46 PM
Thanks for the informative post. Try not to take the flaming to heart. Just next time try to search around a little before you post/research a topic. There is a lot of information just to be learned form this forum. Even though this may be an old topic a lot of us appreciate he thought and time of sharing this with the rest of us.
THEY NEVAR MADE THAT RB27 THAT IS JUST A RUMAR BUT THEY DID MAKE RB28DET SINGLE BIG TURBO IS BETTAR FOR THE NUR SPEC V AND I HEARD THAT THEY ARE ALSO USING VQ35DET IN THE NEW GTR BNR35 O NO WHY NISSAN WHY GET RID OFF THE GODZILA RB ENGINE WHY IT IS SO GOOD DONT USE THAT STUUPID 350Z VQ ENGINE IT SUXXORZ
nokeone
09-11-2003, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by kkw4p
There has been some confusion about how legal engine swapping (in the US) is on some of the forums that I'm on.. so I did the research. I called the EPA and was referred to the following site:
http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/engswitch.pdf
Page 2, second to last paragraph implicitly forbids swapping foreign engines into American cars. Not that I care, I'm going to do it anyway.. but we can put this issue to rest.
FAQ please?
had ta put it inta JIVE for ya..;)
Dair has been some kinda' confusion about how legal engine swappin' (down low,
in da U-S) be on some o' da damn forums dat I is on.. so's I dun did da
damn research. Sheeeiit. I called da damn E-P-fcukin'-A an' wuz referred t' da
damn followin' site, dig dis:
http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/engswitch.pdf
Page 2, second t' last paragraph implicit-like forbids swappin' fo'ign engines
into American Caddys. Not dat I care, I is fixin' t' do it anyway.. but we kin
put dis issue t' rest.
F-A-fcukin'-Q plaise?
mrmephistopheles
09-11-2003, 10:18 AM
holy crapped-up thread, batman!
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