5mge into 89 240hb?????

[fastblackhatch]

Just gathering info about dropping a toyota supra 5mge into my 240. Its rebuilt and ready to go 400 hp 550lbf torgue should i???
I was going to go with a sr20 but everyone is doing it, and parts for them are through the roof !!!!! Let me know your thoughts....

[240racer]

where are you going to find a 5mge engine with 400hp, it's not like they made that much power stock. what modifications have been done?

also, do you really think that your 2.4liter motor has been bored out to 3.0 or are you just saying that to make me think you are a moron.

if I were you, I would just drop in the 2jz, at least it is actually a good motor.

[fastblackhatch]

no it was supposed to be bored to a 3.0 it was done in cali ?
the motor i have it has been balanced and blue printed decked for high compression 30 over pistons lightweight rods pistons custom ground cams header and ect. i built it to race in my supra but trashed the idea when i got the 240 youll see it in magazines soon youll see and i have all the sources i need i run a salvage co.,mechanics shop and towing co.

[SiL1480]

Give it to me, so I can put it in my celica :D

[fastblackhatch]

Idont think you could pay me enoughlol j/k
I will not sell it cuase i sold my 96 cherokee to build it i have 4000 into the motor alone with machine work and rebuild kit thats not includeing the labor i did it all myself to save my *** hwen i get it all done ill post pics for everyone to see and by the way the 5mge is a good motor cuase there is a ****load opf them for parts

[curbsurfer]

why waste time with a 5m, get a 7m at least if you want somethng with parts availability.7m's have 4 valves per cylinder, and are larger in displacement. they also have more aftermarket support.

those motors are ok for performance, but the were designed for a truck.

if you want a truck motor, just invest your $4g's into a KA

[fastblackhatch]

hey man i would like to see the truck that they put the 5mge into id buy it and they aftermarket support for a 5mge is the same as the 7m they are the same identical motors but one is a 2.8(wich means higher rpms)and the other is a 3.0(wich means lower rpms less top end)trust me i allready researched it thats why i inveted in it

[fastblackhatch]

and the ka is a **** motor no top end at all unless you turbo it but you have to do a lot to it to make it handle top end there too rough

[curbsurfer]

7m's have a much better head than a 5m.which is better? 4 valves or 2 valves. if you want high rpm's, these are the wrong motors for you.

m series motors have been around for a long time and they were originaly designed for trucks. just look at the bore/stroke

are you going to turbo this engine? if not, good luck on 250hp, let alone 400hp

[FRpilot]

sounds interesting. you should drop it in. i wanna see it. ka's can be made to perform to, but probably wont get much top end even with a turbo. w/ ka turbo, i think you are trying to kill cars with all your torque before they can rev that high and beat you with hp.

[fastblackhatch]

I am not sure you know what your talking about(no offence) but my motor when it was broke in it was dynoed at398.675 hp at the fly wheel of couse ill lose power throgh the tranz but any way ya they do have a long bor and stoke my 5m is rated at 9.000rpms right now naturally aspirated but thats not why i like it its the tourque if you want to win a race you need tourque and hp if you have 13,000rpm and no tourque youll go nowhere really fast but if you have 9,000rpms and 500lbf of tourque youll huall *** by the way thank you i enjoy this kind of chatting it fun for me to see what people think so dont think im telling you your wron i am just glad to hear oppinions

[curbsurfer]

i would like to see proof that you put down that power with your 5m naturally aspirated.

please dont waste our time with this useless thread unless you have proof about what you are saying. if it is true, i will bow down to you as being an awesome toyota tuner.

i have been heavily into toyota's for years. i have never heard of anyone making over 250hp to the wheels on an "m" series motors without a power adder (nos,turbo,supercharger,exotic fuel).

[fastblackhatch]

well youll bow down if you have never seen that kind of power out of a stright6 then your living in a cave the fastest naturally aspirated honda was 600 hp or so 250 hp give me a break thats what they have almost stock you better check you resorses and youll see proof when it is on the cover of super tunner mag and it will i promise you that so istaed of filling me full of **** take this time to do some catching up on technology ok thanks byby

[curbsurfer]

for your information, the fastest all-motor honda has a little over 300hp, not 600hp.

do you know what naturally aspirated means? that means no turbo, no nos,no supercharger. i believe it is you living in the cave.

what is "super tunner" mag? where can i get it?

where is your proof of your 300+hp engine? do you at least have pics? dyno sheet?

[240racer]

Originally posted by fastblackhatch
well youll bow down if you have never seen that kind of power out of a stright6 then your living in a cave the fastest naturally aspirated honda was 600 hp or so 250 hp give me a break thats what they have almost stock you better check you resorses and youll see proof when it is on the cover of super tunner mag and it will i promise you that so istaed of filling me full of **** take this time to do some catching up on technology ok thanks byby

I think we have all seen I-6 engines that make 400hp n/a. However, he specifically mentioned the "m" series motor. that includes your 5mge and the 7mge which has more liters and a better head. The 5mge is not a current technology engine. so we don't need to catch up on anything.

this thread is soooooo stupid

if you have the ability to make 398.675 hp then you should be able to drop it into the 240 without asking us how to do it. Also, what makes you think 400hp in a 240 is a good idea anyway. It sounds like trouble to me. What other cars have you driven with 300+ hp?? certainly not a '81 celica. or '85 cressida or whatever that stupid ancient motor came out of.

[Andy5]

Uh Is this guy a joke?

(and the ka is a **** motor no top end at all unless you turbo it but you have to do a lot to it to make it handle top end there too rough)


Don't cut on the KA motor if the right work is done the motor is a beast. Your talking like your wanting to go full drag *or atleast thats how i see it in ur eyes*. My buddies Z28 LS1 runs into the 11s, has no Top end or HP *well a lot more than my stock s13" but it *** loads of TQ. I think he shifts around 6k or 6.5, You don't need to have a 15,000rpm motor to go fast.. Glad your being different. But, sounds like its to much work for me.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

fastblackhatch - clean your engrish up a little bit.....To me you sound like a 13-15 year old kid that is so full of crap it's comin out your ears. Hooked on dyslexia is BAD for you. How are you going to wire it up w/ your reading/writing skills....do you just translate to wred, blawk, bloo, guhreen, owrange.

Erick A. has the worlds fastest all motor honda as of rt now....he makes HP in the low-mid 300hp range. That's nowhere near your 600 N/A mythical range.

I say go for it....and show us the dyno's of the 150whp you get w/ the 5m

Not like your going to do anything anwyays...but I'd rather go KA-t than that setup.

Or just be like the SR newbies and drop it in run 15lbs, blow it, and sell your longblock for cheap.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

Im going to put a big 240sx banner on my car to make sure everyone knows what it is......

400hp and 550tq....with tizzightanium valvetrain....JDM titeness

IF you stroke your KA too much, it'll shoot your eye out.

[radhaz]

Originally posted by 240racer
I think we have all seen I-6 engines that make 400hp n/a. However, he specifically mentioned the "m" series motor. that includes your 5mge and the 7mge which has more liters and a better head. The 5mge is not a current technology engine. so we don't need to catch up on anything.

.....certainly not a '81 celica. or '85 cressida or whatever that stupid ancient motor came out of.


It's been a while since I dabbled in toyota lore but I believe the 5mge came out of a MKII Celica-Supra (1982-86.5) turbo was never an option though I think both Greddy and HKS made a kit for it. The term Celica-Supra stems from the fact that the supra at the time was a build up of the RWD 4cyl Celica, with a longer front end to accomadate the I6. The 5MGE stock output 145 to 161 horsepower depending on the year of the engine.


this thread is soooooo stupid


I will always have a soft spot for toyotas and while bashin this guy is entertainin as hell, I just wanted to set a bit of the record straight.

[curbsurfer]

hey hypersh1ft, at least he spells better than mike

wasnt that car on ebay a little while back? its schweet!

[FRpilot]

dam, this has turned into a major flamewar quick. well, to quote, you said hondas make almost 250hp stock. thats bs unless you're talking about an nsx. i thought you're m series engien was a turbo built all out race engine. theres no ****en way that you can get 400hp na, especially from an old motor like that that i've never even heard of or recall. it must not be very popular motor, but anythings possible with money right? well, show us some pics and charts and we'll believe you.

[old_s13]

this guy is an idiot....

[ruf]

Originally posted by Hypersh1ft240
with tizzightanium valvetrainThat's valve TERRAIN, foolio.

[fastblackhatch]

you jaust have to bash i didn ask how to put it in i asked for oppinons on putting it in and who cares about my eddicut 9i can type how ever i feel like and as for everyone else makeing assinine coments about how stupid i am look at yourselves and what grounds you have to call someone else stupid and then grab your ankles and get ****ed this forum used to be a good place to buy,sell and chat with people but its all the a holes that sit and pic on someone that is trying to be different and do his own thing so to all of you who think i am an idiot f......k you and lik my balls

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

Do whatever ya want....It's your car.

You asked our opinions and we gave them to you.

[old_s13]

well that doesnt change the way I feel about the situation, i still think...

that you are an idiot ;)

"i'm gonna swap a b18 into my 240sx" -- you are an idiot
"i'm gonna make my 240sx front wheel drive" -- you are an idiot
"i'm a drifter" -- you are an idiot

haha i love this forum, its grrrrrreat!

[old_s13]

<img src=http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?s=&postid=310628">

and just incase you didnt notice, this IMAGE just YELLS:

I -- AM -- AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ruf]

3.0L KA... haha! Oval pistons! Looks like this:

0000

[mbmbmb23]

If the KA could be bored out to 3.0L why hasn't anyone here done it yet? Why spend the money to bore a motor out....and put titanium components on it....then use pacesetter and OBX products with it? Thats like building up an SR with a Tomei Stoker kit....then using an APC intake and a "Bomz" exhaust off ebay.


:duh:




-m

[fastblackhatch]

but you drive an beat *** 84 sentra you tried to put a mullet motor in to make everyone think your cool lol j/k i dont care what people think at least all my ****s payed for i think your mad cuase mine looks better

[fastblackhatch]

i never said it was bored to 3.0 i said it was suppsed to be

[hookedup240]

Originally posted by fastblackhatch
i dont care what people think at least all my ****s payed for i think your mad cuase mine looks better


hahahaha, nice wing. What time is takeoff??:ghey:

[mbmbmb23]

Originally posted by fastblackhatch
i never said it was bored to 3.0 i said it was suppsed to be


When you list 2.4 to 3.0 in your current "mod list", it sure gives the impression you've bored it out.




-m

[fastblackhatch]

if you look back at the replies i said(it was built in cali?) i know it has titanium vavles ,srings and it was rebuilt it has a **** load of tourque but no top end i havent lost a race yet

[Kreator]

Originally posted by fastblackhatch
i think your mad cuase mine looks better...
...for driving a battle tank over..... or better yet ... FOR ME TO POOP ON!

I saw your car on ebay. So i guess noone bought it. Which brings me to a conclusion: everyone thinks its a POS. Bullshiting is fun, but you are neck deep in it already.

[nocomedown]

Originally posted by fastblackhatch
this forum used to be a good place to buy,sell and chat with people
yea i know man. it used to be -- back on august 24th when you registered. man...a lot has changed in these past few weeks:rolleyes:

[MyFirst240SX]

Did you buy the car like this? can you give us an "official" mod list?
car really doesn't look that bad minus the table top following it around
peace

[revat619]

Lets go over the facts shall we....


1. You dont have a 5mge making over 400 hp n/a.

2. You dont have a ka bored to 3.0 liters.

3. You have no proof whatsoever to back up your outragous claims of horse power and magazine cover stardeom.

4. You desperately need hooked on phonics.

and most importantly...

5. You've made a complete ass out of yourself posting all of this B.S. and in doing so you've made me realize that there is a number 7....



7. YOU'RE AN IDIOT!



Please stop posting. :)

[Bill Roberts]

Is this his block?

LOL!

http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/audi/audi-misc/oval2.jpg

[bladen]

so are we correct in assuming that he's getting at least 100+ Hp from that Absurd "Wing" he has.

Yeah it is a nice car, i would love to have it, ill trade ya my 94 Buick Skylark for it, it has a 2jz Supra Engine in it, with a Honda Civic Tranny, it has TypeR stickers and GT-R badges all over it, im Running 2 200 Shots of nitrous. it runs around 9000RWHP and has a quarter mile time of .16 seconds @ 420MPH. This car will Decimate all, Just make sure your Not Granny shifting it or you'll Blow the welds on the manifold.


All i can say is MORON.

[old_s13]

For those of you wondering, when I wake up:

I usually sit in front of my PC and:

- check my e-mail
- check my voicemail
- go on several forums of choice
- fill up a bigass bowl (or two, or three, depending on hunger level) of cereal
- read the usual morning bullshiet on the forums
- contribute by posting 60% shiet talking, 20% confusion, and 20% valuable info

AND.. last but not least, I usually wait till I have that urge to take a biga/ss DUMP. After seeing more pics of this guys car and his lack of 3.0L KA (which I doubted from the beginning), I really.. and I mean REALLY.. have to take a biga/ss CRAP. :)

Toodles!

[240Dave]

I really don't think it is possible to stroke a ka to 3L much less bore. If you ever looked at how close together the cyl are to eachother, you'd see it is impossible.

"i never said it was bored to 3.0 i said it was suppsed to be"
http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?s=&postid=310628
This images says you have a 3.0L ka. Doesn't say supposed to be, might be, wish it was...says IS 2.4L bored to 3.0L.

:bs:

Motion to ban, all in favor say I.

[Andy5]

Originally posted by old_s13
<img src=http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?s=&postid=310628">

and just incase you didnt notice, this IMAGE just YELLS:

I -- AM -- AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!! That banner just yells "I'M A :ghey: RICER"


were do u get your facts man? 250hp STOCK in a civic? If civics where 250hp stock, they'd be 12-13 second cars off the show floor, ur a newb research before you start posting, Why pick a motor thats out side a nissan family? Thats like me tossing a B18C5 into my moms sunfire. I can see if it was a v8 or even a 2jz motor out of the supra *i think thats the code*. You are an idiot and this thread should be lock'd before someones feelings get hurt.

"in favor I "

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

I'm not totally against cross breeding motors....we are going 1JZ in S13 ourselves....but, Cullen can actually get the job done.

Something about dirt cheap motors, inline 6, 330whp w/ bolt ons, twins, and revving to 9 intrigued us.......

[ruf]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?s=&postid=310937

Come on give him a break guys. He lives in the Cinderblock Estates. He doesn't know any better.

[bladen]

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Ban this Fool, i admit, im a Newbie. But at least i have 2 braincells to rub together to stay warm with.

[syco3d]

Originally posted by bladen


Ban this Fool, i admit, im a Newbie. But at least i have 2 braincells to rub together to stay warm with.

LMAO!!! ...that's gotta be the best post on this stupid thread.

I don't know about the rest of you, but that fuel door was enough to send me running to go bow down to the porcelain punch bowl.

[ruf]

Originally posted by syco3d
I don't know about the rest of you, but that fuel door was enough to send me running to go bow down to the porcelain punch bowl. Man, that's the only JDM-tyte part of his car... Uras carbon fiber fuel door trim:
http://www.biznetworking.com/ruf/images/240sx/DSC01641.JPG