SRSiL80
09-06-2003, 10:42 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6392&item=2431498482
I recently stumbled across this auction for a 1998 ER34 Skyline on ebay while browsing thru "cars I will never be able to afford but like to drool over". Anyways I'm sure you noticed I put 1998 with R34... wait a '98 is a 33 isn't it? :thats what I thought too: Next note the ER34 :confused: again. Perhaps Early-R34 to signify it's 1998 release? :shrugs:
If you haven't clicked the link yet do so now and inspect it thoroughly then read on.. or just read on but it helps to see what I'm rambling on about ;)
Okay so you've looked this over and no doubt you're saying "What the hell?" or "HAHAHAHAHA" or "huh?". My thoughts exactly. Now I don't pretend to know everything about Skylines but I definately know more than alot of my friends (accounting for the fact they're into hondas and i am not), and one thing I do believe is that is not an R34.
First off I go straight to the most obvious of things. The engine. By now you've looked at this picture of the engine bay and if you know anything about SKylines you are saying "what the f*** is that thing?" or if you don't know alot you are probably saying "I have never seen an RB that looks like that before." I thought both these actually. To this very second I still do not know what that engine is but to me it looks like a V shaped engine as the cover over top is extremely wide and definately doesn't look like any RB20, 25, or 26 I've ever seen.
Next is the Body. Pretty nice look except for the hood. It doesn't match up. Why? Has it been wrecked and the seller is not telling us this? Or possibly (more probable as I continue my investigation) it is a kit car. I move onto the front bumper. While in an R34esque style it does not look to me like a stock bumper. Finally the wheels, I tried to zoom in, crop, sharpen, but to no avail could I determine the lug pattern. From a glance they look sort of like an SE-R or Spec V (whichever has the 6 spoke wheels i think it was the SE-Rs :shrugs:) or some sort of Nissan. Definately not the look of stock R34s wheels.
Lastly I end with the interior. Now I know the GTRs had a little tv screen that displayed all that fun stuff like boost, oil pressure, throttle positioning, and G forces, but I do not know if the GTSs had that or not. I do not believe either had the 3 pod gauges that are in this car though. Here is a picture of an R33 (the best i could find of interior 3rd pic down) http://motorex.net/r33_natespg.html . From the look of that it doesn't look like an R33 had it either. One car I do know has a 3 pod gauge like that is the Fairlady Z but I can't remember if the older 300s had it I know the new ones do and some of the older datsuns had em. Now obviously the gauges could be aftermarket but if all 34s had the computer whats the point in puttin those over it?
What I'm getting out of this is not to flame the seller for their obvious incorrections to labeling an R34 but to say that if you're going to sell a car and front it like its the actual thing please sell the actual thing. If you're going to sell a kit car please say it's a kit car (and not charge $30,000 for it). That's just wrong to sell it like that especially if the buyer has no clue it isn't an actual R34. That's just false advertising. :-/
I recently stumbled across this auction for a 1998 ER34 Skyline on ebay while browsing thru "cars I will never be able to afford but like to drool over". Anyways I'm sure you noticed I put 1998 with R34... wait a '98 is a 33 isn't it? :thats what I thought too: Next note the ER34 :confused: again. Perhaps Early-R34 to signify it's 1998 release? :shrugs:
If you haven't clicked the link yet do so now and inspect it thoroughly then read on.. or just read on but it helps to see what I'm rambling on about ;)
Okay so you've looked this over and no doubt you're saying "What the hell?" or "HAHAHAHAHA" or "huh?". My thoughts exactly. Now I don't pretend to know everything about Skylines but I definately know more than alot of my friends (accounting for the fact they're into hondas and i am not), and one thing I do believe is that is not an R34.
First off I go straight to the most obvious of things. The engine. By now you've looked at this picture of the engine bay and if you know anything about SKylines you are saying "what the f*** is that thing?" or if you don't know alot you are probably saying "I have never seen an RB that looks like that before." I thought both these actually. To this very second I still do not know what that engine is but to me it looks like a V shaped engine as the cover over top is extremely wide and definately doesn't look like any RB20, 25, or 26 I've ever seen.
Next is the Body. Pretty nice look except for the hood. It doesn't match up. Why? Has it been wrecked and the seller is not telling us this? Or possibly (more probable as I continue my investigation) it is a kit car. I move onto the front bumper. While in an R34esque style it does not look to me like a stock bumper. Finally the wheels, I tried to zoom in, crop, sharpen, but to no avail could I determine the lug pattern. From a glance they look sort of like an SE-R or Spec V (whichever has the 6 spoke wheels i think it was the SE-Rs :shrugs:) or some sort of Nissan. Definately not the look of stock R34s wheels.
Lastly I end with the interior. Now I know the GTRs had a little tv screen that displayed all that fun stuff like boost, oil pressure, throttle positioning, and G forces, but I do not know if the GTSs had that or not. I do not believe either had the 3 pod gauges that are in this car though. Here is a picture of an R33 (the best i could find of interior 3rd pic down) http://motorex.net/r33_natespg.html . From the look of that it doesn't look like an R33 had it either. One car I do know has a 3 pod gauge like that is the Fairlady Z but I can't remember if the older 300s had it I know the new ones do and some of the older datsuns had em. Now obviously the gauges could be aftermarket but if all 34s had the computer whats the point in puttin those over it?
What I'm getting out of this is not to flame the seller for their obvious incorrections to labeling an R34 but to say that if you're going to sell a car and front it like its the actual thing please sell the actual thing. If you're going to sell a kit car please say it's a kit car (and not charge $30,000 for it). That's just wrong to sell it like that especially if the buyer has no clue it isn't an actual R34. That's just false advertising. :-/