View Full Version : So Today I Picked Up My First 240 (pix).....Need A Little Help
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 12:14 AM
k its a 95 s14 picked it up for 3k
what do u think?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs352.ash2/63200_183449428348549_100000504805673_640305_62071 43_n.jpg
ive always built my friends 240's sr n rb swaps so i decided to pick up my own.... rite now its jus a stock ka but runs clean looks clean but i i need help
cluster....
spedo is way off and it says im doing 120 when im doin about 50 or 55 or so....
and governors at 115 -120 but im still doing about 50 to 55
how do i fix? some 1 told me o2 sensor? and i wana get the governor off as well
how do i do it
it was probably auto before and they used a s13 tranny,
had the same problem if u can find the s14 vss swap it out and thats it,
gunmetalr32
12-23-2010, 01:17 AM
could be a speed sensor, or the meter could be messed up
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 01:23 AM
it was probably auto before and they used a s13 tranny,
had the same problem if u can find the s14 vss swap it out and thats it,
Ya it was a auto swapped to stick.... it had a check engine light cuz the that Ughhh cable wasn't plugged in but ya I cleared that code but that's what I was thinking the cluster seems to woek fine
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 01:29 AM
it was probably auto before and they used a s13 tranny,
had the same problem if u can find the s14 vss swap it out and thats it,
is there different kinds of s14 sensors or are they all the same?
drift freaq
12-23-2010, 01:36 AM
wait a minute you say you built your friends SR and RB swapped cars but you do not know a thing about the wiring of a 5 speed swap on stock 240? Somehow this does not sound right.
Anyways, you have a check engine light because most likely all the sensors are not hooked up on your trans. clearing the code will do you no good because it will come right back.
I suggest you read up on the 5 speed swap for s14 and then check out what is going on in your car.
It does indeed sound like it has a s13 speed sensor and possibly trans but you can use a s13 trans as long as it is setup with all the s14 sensors wired in. You are most like throwing a check engine light because of that.
Like I said before read and inspect. You have given us very vague information and this is something that is well documented on the forum.
good deal if its a se model.
market price for a base model, but your car looks clean.
good job on finding a clean 240, it took me over 6 months till I jumped into my first 240 since so many of them were beat to shit.
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 01:49 AM
good deal if its a se model.
market price for a base model, but your car looks clean.
good job on finding a clean 240, it took me over 6 months till I jumped into my first 240 since so many of them were beat to shit.
yea... i sold my car for 4700.... then bought this for 3k so i got almost 2k to drop into it... so im pretty stoked.... i wana do turbo... coilovers and rims n tires eventually.... i want to roll the fenders and throw some 18's in there... it needs some tlc but its pretty clean
not bad man, good job.
ka-t = trouble unless you know what you are doing
18"s = no beuno, try some 5zigens or rpf1s for the mean time.
unless your going sr20 then turbo/18s is a great choice
if theres any advice I can give you just do your research before jumping into something.
good luck man!
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 02:11 AM
not bad man, good job.
ka-t = trouble unless you know what you are doing
18"s = no beuno, try some 5zigens or rpf1s for the mean time.
unless your going sr20 then turbo/18s is a great choice
if theres any advice I can give you just do your research before jumping into something.
good luck man!
thanks alot.... ya rite now there 17's on there i believe they are 17's lol
but they are not bad ima keep them for now till i do a sr swap in this car..... (which im eventually gona sr swap with t3/t4 top mount wastegate injectors pump ect.... but i wana use as a daily driver for a while....
thx for the help man appropriate it ;)
yea i need to do springs i think the car pulls hard to the right idk if its the cut springs or the alignment is just off haha
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 02:13 AM
wait a minute you say you built your friends SR and RB swapped cars but you do not know a thing about the wiring of a 5 speed swap on stock 240? Somehow this does not sound right.
Anyways, you have a check engine light because most likely all the sensors are not hooked up on your trans. clearing the code will do you no good because it will come right back.
I suggest you read up on the 5 speed swap for s14 and then check out what is going on in your car.
It does indeed sound like it has a s13 speed sensor and possibly trans but you can use a s13 trans as long as it is setup with all the s14 sensors wired in. You are most like throwing a check engine light because of that.
Like I said before read and inspect. You have given us very vague information and this is something that is well documented on the forum.
the sr swap was swapped into a s13 :) we never messed with the sensor lol
and we changed the ecu out and cleared the code... the ecu thats in there is for a manual... so... i dont think the light will come back its been a few days sense we did this..... soooo i hope im good lol
ngkpower
12-23-2010, 02:32 AM
Using an S13 speed sensor on an S14 will double the speed. In converse, using an S14 speed sensor with relations to the S13 will give you one half the speed.
S13 sensor in S14: Shows 120 and actual speed is half (60mph)
S14 Sensor in S13: Shows 120 when you're doing 240mph LoL. *Realistically will show 32mph when you're doing 65mph.*
Vehicle speed reading 2x actual mileage has nothing to do with CEL. It has an S13 OBD1 tranny and sensor or S14 tranny with s13 sensor.
To fix: You buy an S14 (95-98) Speed sensor (recommend used) Since they are expensive in respect. $40-65 used. New $100+ arm + legs. Also do a tranny fluid change with Lucas or Penzoil synchromesh as a good idea. When buying a new car, change everything, tune it up, and write it down, because you don't really know when the last time this or that was changed.
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 03:11 AM
Using an S13 speed sensor on an S14 will double the speed. In converse, using an S14 speed sensor with relations to the S13 will give you one half the speed.
S13 sensor in S14: Shows 120 and actual speed is half (60mph)
S14 Sensor in S13: Shows 120 when you're doing 240mph LoL. *Realistically will show 32mph when you're doing 65mph.*
Vehicle speed reading 2x actual mileage has nothing to do with CEL. It has an S13 OBD1 tranny and sensor or S14 tranny with s13 sensor.
To fix: You buy an S14 (95-98) Speed sensor (recommend used) Since they are expensive in respect. $40-65 used. New $100+ arm + legs. Also do a tranny fluid change with Lucas or Penzoil synchromesh as a good idea. When buying a new car, change everything, tune it up, and write it down, because you don't really know when the last time this or that was changed.
this is exactly the answer I was looking for thanks Bro prfect answer
Renelovesnike
12-23-2010, 05:15 AM
Im pretty sure you have an s13 tranny with an s13 speed sensor you can determine this with the obvious "CAS" sensor at the top of the bellhousing if there is one then its s14 if there issent one than its s13.
you can see it between the valve cover and firewall if you get a flashlight and under your egr..
i tried fitting an s13 speed sensor in my s14 tranny before i knew there was a differance while doing the 5spd swap and the s13 speed sensor was 1mm or 2mm bigger in diamiter wich wont fits 14 trans withouth some heavy pushing.. wich leads me to think u have s13 tranny. :)
hope it helps. btw is this an se or base? i know u have the lip but its hard to see with that universal lugg rim.
either way nice car and good platform to start off from. i wish mines looked this good when i purchased mine :)
Volcom887
12-23-2010, 05:20 AM
It's a normal model but its got cruise electric everything but not 5 lug... but that's a easy 200$ fix to convert :)
Renelovesnike
12-23-2010, 05:48 AM
Hopefully ya get it for that price. thats what i paid but i had a homie discout ^.^
$nicklefritz
12-23-2010, 07:17 AM
"wait a minute you say you built your friends SR and RB swapped cars but you do not know a thing about the wiring of a 5 speed swap on stock 240? Somehow this does not sound right." drift freaq
true that , something is fishy ,iether yur a retard or a bullshitter
anyways change those rims gross , and proceed to lower as much as possible
u retarded bullshit artist
240sx123$
12-23-2010, 07:42 AM
Youre gonna waste a ton of money pulling power out of an SR with a top mount setup when compared to just using a different platform. High HP SR's are reasonable to build if youve already got an SR. If youre talking about dropping $2200+ on an SR swap and THEN buying a big turbo and top mount and all the supporting mods, youre starting to get near the cost of an RB25 or LS1 swap- both engines with far more potential and far more reliability at higher HP. Initial swap cost is considerably higher, but after everything is said and done, youll have spent about the same money for the same power, and have a much more solid and reliable motor.
Not that the SR sucks, by any means. Im just saying its not COST EFFECTIVE to do a big turbo SR if youre starting from scratch.
Tiny_T
12-23-2010, 08:11 AM
Youre gonna waste a ton of money pulling power out of an SR with a top mount setup when compared to just using a different platform. High HP SR's are reasonable to build if youve already got an SR. If youre talking about dropping $2200+ on an SR swap and THEN buying a big turbo and top mount and all the supporting mods, youre starting to get near the cost of an RB25 or LS1 swap- both engines with far more potential and far more reliability at higher HP. Initial swap cost is considerably higher, but after everything is said and done, youll have spent about the same money for the same power, and have a much more solid and reliable motor.
Not that the SR sucks, by any means. Im just saying its not COST EFFECTIVE to do a big turbo SR if youre starting from scratch.
but how does one be jdm without an sr? if i wanted to be jdm as fuck or whatever it is id definitely spend 2000 dollars on a motor a little asian man urinated in after he spun a bearing.
Nick_04K
12-23-2010, 09:55 AM
but how does one be jdm without an sr? if i wanted to be jdm as fuck or whatever it is id definitely spend 2000 dollars on a motor a little asian man urinated in after he spun a bearing.
^ HAHAHAHAH!
But definitely dont be rocking 17's on a s14. Unless however they are 10.5+ inche wide BBS wheels and you have a gnarly LSx and your car is supadoopa slammed. However, congrats on the new car. Looks clean.
240sx123$
12-23-2010, 10:20 AM
but how does one be jdm without an sr? if i wanted to be jdm as fuck or whatever it is id definitely spend 2000 dollars on a motor a little asian man urinated in after he spun a bearing.
The whole JDM fad is getting gayer than the Ricer fad of '96.
My S14 was imported from Mexico. Im going MDM.
http://www.aidanmoran.com/images/Mexican_WC_Car.jpg
Ill see you guys out there. Ill be in the S14 with the chihuahua hanging from the tow hook.
soreballz
12-23-2010, 02:47 PM
Also do a tranny fluid change with Penzoil synchromesh as a good idea.
No no no no, that is a TERRIBLE idea. Synchromesh will kill your trans. It may take a couple of years, but it WILL kill your trans.
4-20sx
12-23-2010, 02:54 PM
yes most likely its your VSS. you probaly have a s13 VSS. you need to buy new at courtesy nissan or get on from here (if someone has it).
xplicit240
12-23-2010, 03:53 PM
hey man good luck with the car. im a bit late on the answer as everyone already stated its the sensor.
but dont let these other people discourage you on what you want to do with your setup.
go SR if you wish. depending on what kinda power output you looking for an sr can be built for rather cheap. and yes the sr is very reliable. A stock SR can handle 370hp in stock internals. only supporting mods are injectors, HG, turbo upgrade, boost controller and an EMU with a good tune. all these fan boys are all about these big money swaps like they can afford it but cant. they dont know wtf they are talking about.
RB25 swap is alot of money and you still have to upgrade turbo just to squeeze out power. true you will have torque. but then you will have heat soak probs. then custom mounts. custom drive shaft. a more expensive intercooler set up. this is if you are gonna run a greddy intake mani since the stock one is pretty gay and messes with hood clearance depending on what mounts you get. there is so much that can be argued on what swap is good.
if an SR is not capable then maybe companies like DSG must be wrong in putting an sr in their 240. i mean why would you put an SR in a time attack car its so unreliable.
go do some research and build something within your means and budget.
good luck with the project and its a very clean car.
dont get discouraged on this forum. its a great forum with great people. but occasionally you will get some bad apples.
Tiny_T
12-23-2010, 05:27 PM
dont get discouraged on this forum. its a great forum with great people. but occasionally you will get some bad apples.
dont get in my way, im showing him how to be JDM now that his questions been answered
benarovi
12-23-2010, 09:57 PM
looks nice got potential
Volcom887
12-24-2010, 01:27 AM
looks nice got potential
thanks guys... yea i am thinking about ordering a turbo kkit and just doing a turbo ka with t3/t4 front mount and pushing only 7-8 pounds....
and i found a answer to the vss :) all i did was clip the yellow n green wire to the ecu..... ( took the Governor off so therefor i can just go off rpms and know how fast im going but it doesnt stop at 120 mph anymore :)
240sx123$
12-24-2010, 10:50 AM
Xplicit, thanks for completely missing the entire point of my post. ;)
240sx123$
12-24-2010, 10:53 AM
No no no no, that is a TERRIBLE idea. Synchromesh will kill your trans. It may take a couple of years, but it WILL kill your trans.
Any chance you'd care to back up such a bold statement with some fact?
soreballz
12-24-2010, 12:15 PM
^ my trans worked great prior to using Synchromesh. I don't abuse it. Now, after using Synchromesh, every up-shift is crunchy, and the input shaft bearing is making all sorts of horrible sounds. And the supercharger-like whine in second and third gear is quite worrisome.
It would seem that the Synchromesh, though being GL-4, isn't thick enough for our transmissions.
BustedS13
12-24-2010, 01:20 PM
needs hipster-spec wheels and tires
you're not going to pull much college dorm rat penis until then.
JKL1031
12-25-2010, 09:52 PM
^ my trans worked great prior to using Synchromesh. I don't abuse it. Now, after using Synchromesh, every up-shift is crunchy, and the input shaft bearing is making all sorts of horrible sounds. And the supercharger-like whine in second and third gear is quite worrisome.
It would seem that the Synchromesh, though being GL-4, isn't thick enough for our transmissions.
How loud is the wine? Like the way a cold auto trans whines? or more like coming from the power of the radio, and only heard from the inside?
Sorry to thread jack.
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