bov install. eliminating stock bov?

[shinobis13hb]

ok so i am running a stock sidemount on my black top sr, i am going to install a aftermarket BOV.

my question is if i take the line off the stock BOV and switch it to the after market BOV is the stock one still in use?
or can i jsut T off the line and run both BOV?

if someone could give me some pointers that would be great.

i am currently running 10LBS if that matters.

[nismoman]

Some weird things could happen depending on the type of BOV you add. I would just pull the stock one of and cap the hoses. No reason to run both

[Ceepo]

^what he said, no need for 2 bov's cap it off and mount your aftermarket one :D

[buentellomma]

i tried running a aftermarket bov on a stock setup and my car ran like crap plus it looked retarded stock side mount with aftermarket bov. why are you doing this? for looks or sound?

[shinobis13hb]

Some weird things could happen depending on the type of BOV you add. I would just pull the stock one of and cap the hoses. No reason to run both
what hose are you refering to? the recirculation hoses on the side mount to intake?

^what he said, no need for 2 bov's cap it off and mount your aftermarket one :D
im leaning on that
i tried running a aftermarket bov on a stock setup and my car ran like crap plus it looked retarded stock side mount with aftermarket bov. why are you doing this? for looks or sound?

well i installed it.. the snap ring was a BITCH! i am running the stock sidemount bov and the hks ssqv3 i installed. well the car feels like its losing boost. could someone explain why? i am probably going to cap off the stock one coudl someone explain what i need to do? i thought i could jsut take the vacume line off(run it to the new BOV) and cap the nipple coming on stock bov. PLEASE correct me if i am wrong. thanks for the help=]

[nismoman]

remove the stock recirc valve and plug the two open hoses or cap where the hoses attach to the intercooler. told you weird things would happen, lol.

[buentellomma]

save the headache and just keep the stock bov until you get a fmic

[KaminaSan]

ok so i am running a stock sidemount on my black top sr, i am going to install a aftermarket BOV.

my question is if i take the line off the stock BOV and switch it to the after market BOV is the stock one still in use?
or can i jsut T off the line and run both BOV?

if someone could give me some pointers that would be great.

i am currently running 10LBS if that matters.

Dude, stop what you are doing, and turn down your boost.
Don't run the SMIC in cali heat(I know it's winter atm, but still), with anything over 7lbs, or you are probably gonna be looking at some nice heat soak, and some nice damage to your piston.

Also, don't switch to an aftermarket BoV. The SMIC gives better response with the stock one, cause its recircd.

Just leave it alone until you get a FMIC.

[Nick_04K]

The stock SMIC is really not capable of 10psi? Even if your not boosting hard back to back or for long periods?

[buentellomma]

Dude, stop what you are doing, and turn down your boost.
Don't run the SMIC in cali heat(I know it's winter atm, but still), with anything over 7lbs, or you are probably gonna be looking at some nice heat soak, and some nice damage to your piston.

Also, don't switch to an aftermarket BoV. The SMIC gives better response with the stock one, cause its recircd.

Just leave it alone until you get a FMIC.
i learned this lesson the hard way 6 years ago.... 12 psi on stock intercooler in alabama summer = pistons in pieces :duh:
the side mount is ok for dd but anymore than that its safe to go with a larger intercooler

[shinobis13hb]

The stock SMIC is really not capable of 10psi? Even if your not boosting hard back to back or for long periods?

i learned this lesson the hard way 6 years ago.... 12 psi on stock intercooler in alabama summer = pistons in pieces :duh:
the side mount is ok for dd but anymore than that its safe to go with a larger intercooler
i will be getting a FMIC after X-mas im sure that will fix most if not ALL my problems. i dont PLAN on boosting more then 12LBS even with a FMIC its really not needed for DD there are plenty ways of getting MORE power then jsut turning up the boost=]
thanks for your help guys.

[buentellomma]

i will be getting a FMIC after X-mas im sure that will fix most if not ALL my problems. i dont PLAN on boosting more then 12LBS even with a FMIC its really not needed for DD there are plenty ways of getting MORE power then jsut turning up the boost=]
thanks for your help guys.

are you planning on running larger injectors with your setup? i think 10psi is really pushing those 370cc injectors

[shinobis13hb]

are you planning on running larger injectors with your setup? i think 10psi is really pushing those 370cc injectors
well i dont think i need to replace the injectors with 12lbs if im correct you dont need to replace them unless you are going above 1 bar of boost.(14lbs.) if i get bigger injectors i have to get a tune. and if i get bigger injectors i might as well get a z32 MAF and get it tuned for all that but its something i dont need to really do on 12lbs. although i wouldent mind getting a safc piggyback with my stock setup (injectors and maf ect)

[buentellomma]

well i dont think i need to replace the injectors with 12lbs if im correct you dont need to replace them unless you are going above 1 bar of boost.(14lbs.) if i get bigger injectors i have to get a tune. and if i get bigger injectors i might as well get a z32 MAF and get it tuned for all that but its something i dont need to really do on 12lbs. although i wouldent mind getting a safc piggyback with my stock setup (injectors and maf ect)
i think your pushing the limits of the stock injectors at 12lbs on a untuned motor. personally i would buy a a/f ratio gauge and monitor it to be on the safe side... i know for me its not worth boosting that much on a t25 on a stock setup being im on my 3rd sr20 motor i learned the hard way many years ago

[buentellomma]

i did a little bit of searching for you, it seems most people are saying 10psi on stock injectors is about the max you want to go on a stock ecu.
www.ka-t.org :: View topic - 370cc injectors (http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=396211&sid=a84bd14d88f65df61a81a1750556c556)

370cc injectors and T25 - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash (http://www.sr20-forum.com/turbo/6650-370cc-injectors-t25.html)

Max boost with stock 370cc injectors? : SR20DET Forum (rear-drive) (http://forums.nicoclub.com/max-boost-with-stock-370cc-injectors-t24618.html)

in the end its your car and your motor so its your choice and if you blow it up by running lean then so be it

[shinobis13hb]

i did a little bit of searching for you, it seems most people are saying 10psi on stock injectors is about the max you want to go on a stock ecu.
www.ka-t.org :: View topic - 370cc injectors (http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=396211&sid=a84bd14d88f65df61a81a1750556c556)

370cc injectors and T25 - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash (http://www.sr20-forum.com/turbo/6650-370cc-injectors-t25.html)

Max boost with stock 370cc injectors? : SR20DET Forum (rear-drive) (http://forums.nicoclub.com/max-boost-with-stock-370cc-injectors-t24618.html)

in the end its your car and your motor so its your choice and if you blow it up by running lean then so be it
thanks for the reserch. i forgot to mention i am running a blitz tuned ecu. i will deff be getting a a/f meter after my front mount. also an adj fuel pressure regulator. i dont "push" my car i just DD it or only drive it 3 times in 7 days. ill read up on the links. eventually i WILL get a s15 spec r turbo or a disco potato but not for months to come. thanks for the input .

[s14freak93901]

12 pounds on 370's is fine. don't bother running anything besides a stock bov on the Smic. only run a new bov on a Fmic.

[KaminaSan]

thanks for the reserch. i forgot to mention i am running a blitz tuned ecu. i will deff be getting a a/f meter after my front mount. also an adj fuel pressure regulator. i dont "push" my car i just DD it or only drive it 3 times in 7 days. ill read up on the links. eventually i WILL get a s15 spec r turbo or a disco potato but not for months to come. thanks for the input .

Dude this is even worse! You got it done at pitgarage, same as me right? They gave me a mine's ecu, in mine, and I ran it for 3 months, before realizing, and come to find out these ECUs are tuned for 100 octane Japanese gas, with really advanced timing. Advanced timing, 91 octane, and high boost/heat= rod knock, and piston holes.

I'm surprise your engine hasn't blown yet. Please ease up the boost. Did you even get a walbro fuel pump?

[nismoman]

actually this 100 octane japanese gas thing is a bit misleading. the fact is that they dont measure octane the same as we do. So in reality their 100 octane is comparable to like our 93 octane, but......i guess in CA you cant get higher than 91 can you?

[epics13]

Ok I have a question about this now if the op gets his fmic and the bov doesn't he still need to recirculate the system, I once read that if u don't recirculate the system that your car boggles out and sometimes die on u, since when you start spoiling your maf is reading the amount of air your getting and telling the computer the correct amount of fuel to dump into the engine, so when the system is not recirculated the computer is dumping too much fuel into the engine when it's not getting enough air, thus messing with your a/f ratio. Can someone clarify on this please, sorry not trying to thread jack but don't want to start a new thread on basically the same topic.

[codyace]

I'm almost sick to my stomach reading this post. It's 2010...there are countless turbo resources out there, and people ask questions that weren't even asked 5 years/10 years ago when no information was even vailable!

Ey yi yi.


shinobis13hb,

1.leave the stock one on your car. Don't be a ricer by adding a noise maker (bov) to a stockish setup. I don't care how cool it may sound, it's not worth the aggrevation or install.

2. You have a OE side mount intcerooler, designed for commutting, marginal spirited driving. Will it work? Sure...but so will filling out your Tax forms with a Crayon. The RIGHT way is to add a FMIC before increasing power or boost.

3. Ditch that Blitz ECU


In the end, when you add a BOV, do it correctly with a new flange, removing the old one, and of course recirculating it correctly. Don't cheap out.



Ori

[codyace]

12 pounds on 370's is fine. don't bother running anything besides a stock bov on the Smic. only run a new bov on a Fmic.

actually this 100 octane japanese gas thing is a bit misleading. the fact is that they dont measure octane the same as we do. So in reality their 100 octane is comparable to like our 93 octane, but......i guess in CA you cant get higher than 91 can you?

100 Japanese Octane is like 95/96 US octane

So even still, you're running lean/dangerously with it.

[buentellomma]

Ok I have a question about this now if the op gets his fmic and the bov doesn't he still need to recirculate the system, I once read that if u don't recirculate the system that your car boggles out and sometimes die on u, since when you start spoiling your maf is reading the amount of air your getting and telling the computer the correct amount of fuel to dump into the engine, so when the system is not recirculated the computer is dumping too much fuel into the engine when it's not getting enough air, thus messing with your a/f ratio. Can someone clarify on this please, sorry not trying to thread jack but don't want to start a new thread on basically the same topic.
i dont run a recirculate system on mine and it runs fine, doesnt bog, doesnt use more gas, it drives like a normal turbo car. maybe people have that issue because they still use the oem turbo intake tube and just cap it off?

[shinobis13hb]

as long as the bov isnt leaking you should be fine. my old hks was leaking so it was all stupid

[roel03]

A non-recirculated setup will not run nearly as well. You will have to raise the idle to not die at a stoplight, you WILL waste more gas, andyour car will not beas responsive.

[codyace]

i dont run a recirculate system on mine and it runs fine, doesnt bog, doesnt use more gas, it drives like a normal turbo car. maybe people have that issue because they still use the oem turbo intake tube and just cap it off?

You've obviously either become accustomed to a shitty driving car, or you've never been in a properly setup one.

Sorry dude, you're not going to convince anyone here that your car can idle at stock, and not stall. You must have a magic damn car.

as long as the bov isnt leaking you should be fine. my old hks was leaking so it was all stupid

Any HKS sucks. Why? Non recirculated SSQV blows.


A non-recirculated setup will not run nearly as well. You will have to raise the idle to not die at a stoplight, you WILL waste more gas, andyour car will not beas responsive.

Amen Brother

[KaminaSan]

You've obviously either become accustomed to a shitty driving car, or you've never been in a properly setup one.

Sorry dude, you're not going to convince anyone here that your car can idle at stock, and not stall. You must have a magic damn car.



Any HKS sucks. Why? Non recirculated SSQV blows.




Amen Brother

Well, this isn't entirely true. While a non recirc BoV does suck compared to a recircd one, the dying at a stop light is not really true.
I have a shitty cxracing BoV vented, and the only time I get any bog is when I boost, blow off valve vents, and then I come to a stop/don't up/down shift. It causes my rpms to fall to 5/600, then shoot back up to 850.

Just sayin...

[codyace]

Well, this isn't entirely true. While a non recirc BoV does suck compared to a recircd one, the dying at a stop light is not really true.
I have a shitty cxracing BoV vented, and the only time I get any bog is when I boost, blow off valve vents, and then I come to a stop/don't up/down shift. It causes my rpms to fall to 5/600, then shoot back up to 850.

Just sayin...


Your shit is wrong

Just saying

My stuff is recirculated, makes twice the HP and probabyl drives like grannies buick

Just saying

Anytime you need to modify how you drive a car from 'stock' or normal, it's not right.

just saying

[shinobis13hb]

now hks DOES make s recerc fitting corrrect? or you can ez fab one up. this thread has gotten more attention then i thought ha ha.if you can recerc a ssqv then there shouldn't be a problem.eventually i will change my bov in the future. now i have driven cars with voxson that are not recerc and the idle does not drop it drives just fine. stock ecus and stock tune.

[KaminaSan]

Your shit is wrong

Just saying

My stuff is recirculated, makes twice the HP and probabyl drives like grannies buick

Just saying

Anytime you need to modify how you drive a car from 'stock' or normal, it's not right.

just saying

Not exactly sure where you are coming from, but the point I'm trying to get across is that just because you have your BoV vented, doesn't mean that it cannot idle/will die at stoplights.

Slow your roll, don't get all pissy. I don't care how much HP you have, the concept of the car dying at a stoplight because your BoV isn't recircd isn't going to change just because you have a built engine(Unless maybe because of cams).

JUST SAYIN

[roel03]

Your revs drop then go back up to normal, that is not running correctly.

Try going to a track day or autocross and then having to brake abrubtly. Better yet, recirculate for a week and see if you ever go back. I am willing to bet you will not, unless of course you are more concerned with proving to people around you that you have a turbo and make cool noises.

We are not saying it will die at every stop with the BOV vented. But it will not stay alive at the correct idle with the blow off valve vented. And modifying your car to run worse and behave wrong is just plain retarded.

[roel03]

And yes, HKS makes a screw on recirculation fitting for their BOV's. Buy it, or actually go back to your BPV since you have the SMIC.

[KaminaSan]

Your revs drop then go back up to normal, that is not running correctly.

Try going to a track day or autocross and then having to brake abrubtly. Better yet, recirculate for a week and see if you ever go back. I am willing to bet you will not, unless of course you are more concerned with proving to people around you that you have a turbo and make cool noises.

We are not saying it will die at every stop with the BOV vented. But it will not stay alive at the correct idle with the blow off valve vented. And modifying your car to run worse and behave wrong is just plain retarded.

Ahh, I guess that's what he was trying to say. Natually recircd is how it should be, and rev dropping is not 'normal', but the car is without a doubt driveable.

Thank you for clearing the confusion up. Hopefully I can get a recirc fitting for this knockoff greddy.

[lexlaxlux]

I suggest you don't run a BOV- unless your Mapped... no point in really running one if your still stuck on a maf/afm. Sure it sounds cool, but your driving your car daily right? Swoosh Swoosh (big shiny FMIC) Cop magnet my friend.

But... If your still fixed on it... to fix your rev/bog problems (been covered many times) run a POS AFC on that meter and call it a day.

[buentellomma]

You've obviously either become accustomed to a shitty driving car, or you've never been in a properly setup one.

Sorry dude, you're not going to convince anyone here that your car can idle at stock, and not stall. You must have a magic damn car.



Any HKS sucks. Why? Non recirculated SSQV blows.




Amen Brother

i drive my car everyday and it idles at 800rpms, it doesnt jump around, it doesnt die when i stop, and its not a shitty car. im not trying to convince anyone either setup is better, i HAVE driven a sr20det with BOTH setups and they BOTH are good. when i was recirculating mine it was louder than the greddy im running now.

[KaminaSan]

i drive my car everyday and it idles at 800rpms, it doesnt jump around, it doesnt die when i stop, and its not a shitty car. im not trying to convince anyone either setup is better, i HAVE driven a sr20det with BOTH setups and they BOTH are good. when i was recirculating mine it was louder than the greddy im running now.

This. I drove the SR with stock SMIC, and you can't get much more recircd than that. It didn't feel all that much different.

[shinobis13hb]

This. I drove the SR with stock SMIC, and you can't get much more recircd than that. It didn't feel all that much different.
what setup are you running now?? spec exhaust ect ect.

[buentellomma]

This. I drove the SR with stock SMIC, and you can't get much more recircd than that. It didn't feel all that much different.
i went from a smic with stock bov to a midmount setup with atmosphere dump bov and the stock was a bit louder and not as responsive as my current setup but to each their own i guess...

[codyace]

I suggest you don't run a BOV- unless your Mapped... no point in really running one if your still stuck on a maf/afm. Sure it sounds cool, but your driving your car daily right? Swoosh Swoosh (big shiny FMIC) Cop magnet my friend.

But... If your still fixed on it... to fix your rev/bog problems (been covered many times) run a POS AFC on that meter and call it a day.

Wait, [email protected]?

No BOV on a Maf car? You are kidding right? run a AFC on the car?

Dude...


Your revs drop then go back up to normal, that is not running correctly.

Try going to a track day or autocross and then having to brake abrubtly. Better yet, recirculate for a week and see if you ever go back. I am willing to bet you will not, unless of course you are more concerned with proving to people around you that you have a turbo and make cool noises.

We are not saying it will die at every stop with the BOV vented. But it will not stay alive at the correct idle with the blow off valve vented. And modifying your car to run worse and behave wrong is just plain retarded.

This is what I'm getting at. I guess people have become complacent with their shit and can deal with surgey idle at times, and that sort of junk. I can't.


This. I drove the SR with stock SMIC, and you can't get much more recircd than that. It didn't feel all that much different.

Can't get much more recirced than that? What is that supposed to mean?

[badbob2121]

wow...

all ill say is i run a hks ssqv ser iii non-reciruclated

i can hit full boost, go straight into N, and come to a stop

no bog, no un-even idle, nothing

my sr20det drives like a new car ....


to the OP, its your car... be your own judge and learn from your own experiences
and take this all as advice not the truth

[buentellomma]

wow...

all ill say is i run a hks ssqv ser iii non-reciruclated

i can hit full boost, go straight into N, and come to a stop

no bog, no un-even idle, nothing

my sr20det drives like a new car ....


to the OP, its your car... be your own judge and learn from your own experiences
and take this all as advice not the truth

you and I must have magical sr20s then because i have no issues with my atmospheric dump bov .... there is nothing wrong with either setup its up to the op which is better for him

[shinobis13hb]

wow...

all ill say is i run a hks ssqv ser iii non-reciruclated

i can hit full boost, go straight into N, and come to a stop

no bog, no un-even idle, nothing

my sr20det drives like a new car ....


to the OP, its your car... be your own judge and learn from your own experiences
and take this all as advice not the truth
well its been raining these past days so i havent been able to work on my car. once i tgets dry i will take off the recirc plug everything up.

you and I must have magical sr20s then because i have no issues with my atmospheric dump bov .... there is nothing wrong with either setup its up to the op which is better for him
my old hks was leaking that is why i replaced it. IIRC i didnt have any problems untill it started to leak. i will let you guys know how it works when it dries up.

[badbob2121]

you and I must have magical sr20s then because i have no issues with my atmospheric dump bov .... there is nothing wrong with either setup its up to the op which is better for him


lol, i guess so

but i will say that i have driven both recirculated and atmospheric BOV'S and im not declining the mechanical benefits of a recirucalted bov's when running maf's

BUT....all this talk of how it makes it "lose power" or run like garbage is all just he said she said BS imo

[nismoman]

I think i have magical SR #3 I have a SSQV. no probs with it, no stalling no rev drops.

I guess the point is that there is no benefit to the OP by changing his stock recirc setup. He can do it if he wants and it wont really hurt anything either.......

[roel03]

This is what I'm getting at. I guess people have become complacent with their shit and can deal with surgey idle at times, and that sort of junk. I can't.




As you can see, there is no point to try and help ignorant people.

[KaminaSan]

what setup are you running now?? spec exhaust ect ect.

Well, first off, I got mine done at PG like you, and so here are the things I did.

My upgrades so far:
1.)Reset the Mine's ECU that came with the clip back to the stock tune.
2.)Walbro 255 lph
3.)FMIC(CX racing with knockoff Greddy Type S)
4.)Circuit Sports turbo elbow
5.)3 inch downpipe
6.)Circuit Sports Test Pipe(Not much louder)
7.) 2.5 inch catback(custom made from previous owner, gonna get a real exhaust soon)

I set my idle to 850, and my BoV isn't very tight(so I only get a tiny amount of compressor surge when I'm at like 1/2 psi and let off too slow).

In second, I'll hit full boost 8 psi(washer on my turbo), and then let off, pshhh blowoff, rpms go down from 3600, then it goes to about 450 at the lowest, then shoots right back up to 850.

Yeah, it's not how i'd LIKE it, but it doesn't bother me too much.

[shinobis13hb]

Well, first off, I got mine done at PG like you, and so here are the things I did.

My upgrades so far:
1.)Reset the Mine's ECU that came with the clip back to the stock tune.
2.)Walbro 255 lph
3.)FMIC(CX racing with knockoff Greddy Type S)
4.)Circuit Sports turbo elbow
5.)3 inch downpipe
6.)Circuit Sports Test Pipe(Not much louder)
7.) 2.5 inch catback(custom made from previous owner, gonna get a real exhaust soon)

I set my idle to 850, and my BoV isn't very tight(so I only get a tiny amount of compressor surge when I'm at like 1/2 psi and let off too slow).

In second, I'll hit full boost 8 psi(washer on my turbo), and then let off, pshhh blowoff, rpms go down from 3600, then it goes to about 450 at the lowest, then shoots right back up to 850.

Yeah, it's not how i'd LIKE it, but it doesn't bother me too much.
well thing to concider is possibly that your BOV is leaking? my old ssqv was leaking. what was your mines ecu tuned for? are you sure it was damaging your motor? i know rather be safe then sorry so im not saying you shouldnt have gotten it reset ahahah.that exhaust system should help you out a bit! my car currently has.
blitz tuned ecu.
apexi intake kit.(need to replace the cone)
3" turbo elbow
3"JDM downpipe
SMIC
hks ssqv3
full exhaust with 2 resnators and 3 "magnaflow muffler.
my car is pretty quiet and it sounds bad ass!
set at 10LBS

[KaminaSan]

well thing to concider is possibly that your BOV is leaking? my old ssqv was leaking. what was your mines ecu tuned for? are you sure it was damaging your motor? i know rather be safe then sorry so im not saying you shouldnt have gotten it reset ahahah.that exhaust system should help you out a bit! my car currently has.
blitz tuned ecu.
apexi intake kit.(need to replace the cone)
3" turbo elbow
3"JDM downpipe
SMIC
hks ssqv3
full exhaust with 2 resnators and 3 "magnaflow muffler.
my car is pretty quiet and it sounds bad ass!
set at 10LBS

My BoV leaking would be under boost, which it holds boost just fine. It would be stuttering if it was leaking. I don't know if you saw some of the other threads about Japanese tuned ECUs, but most of the threads were posted in by people who actually DO tune ecus, and they were saying that the ignition advance is pretty crazy, and that it's fine on cars with high octane levels, but on california piss 91 octane, it will lead to detonation, pre-det=bearing stress.
http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/352940-mines-ecu.html
Mine's Inquiry Form (http://www.mines-wave.com/E_09/Inquiry_E.html#Q3)

I can tell you it caused problems with my engine, because I replaced my oil pan about two months ago, no metal or anything in the pan.

I started to run the car a bit harder, and noticed it would stutter a bit after 4k rpms, did an oil change about three weeks ago, to find gold sparkles in my oil. Luckily its still running, but I'm assuming there was some damage done to my bearings, which sucks since I just bought this motor, and will probably have to rebuild it.

Be careful with that blitz ECU.

[shinobis13hb]

My BoV leaking would be under boost, which it holds boost just fine. It would be stuttering if it was leaking. I don't know if you saw some of the other threads about Japanese tuned ECUs, but most of the threads were posted in by people who actually DO tune ecus, and they were saying that the ignition advance is pretty crazy, and that it's fine on cars with high octane levels, but on california piss 91 octane, it will lead to detonation, pre-det=bearing stress.
http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/352940-mines-ecu.html
Mine's Inquiry Form (http://www.mines-wave.com/E_09/Inquiry_E.html#Q3)

I can tell you it caused problems with my engine, because I replaced my oil pan about two months ago, no metal or anything in the pan.

I started to run the car a bit harder, and noticed it would stutter a bit after 4k rpms, did an oil change about three weeks ago, to find gold sparkles in my oil. Luckily its still running, but I'm assuming there was some damage done to my bearings, which sucks since I just bought this motor, and will probably have to rebuild it.

Be careful with that blitz ECU.
hmm i see i cna understand your concern .. we did spend good money on our swaps. well an update i guess, after xmas i am going to be getting a FMIC when i do i am going to get my car dynod with wideband ect.. i get a GREAT deal at a place by my house its called J&G auto the guy tunes and knows all about rotory. when i changed my oil i inspected it and i didnt see any bad signs of wear or metal. oil didnt look bad. allthough i think my lifters need to be bled.

i dont know but my sr is pretty fucking tits. i stay side by side with my buddys s14 w rb25. he gets me on the stop but on a roll im side by side. but i am going to get my car retuned with diffrent injectors and a maf in about 6 month aswell as a turbo..? i jsut have to finish some other things and pay for some tickets.

[codyace]

wow...

all ill say is i run a hks ssqv ser iii non-reciruclated

i can hit full boost, go straight into N, and come to a stop

no bog, no un-even idle, nothing

my sr20det drives like a new car ....


to the OP, its your car... be your own judge and learn from your own experiences
and take this all as advice not the truth

If it really worked for all cars, why do every single OEM car that has been turbocharged, been recirculated.

THere are way to many variables with these sr20 cars in terms of previous owner and setup to say that they all do or do not work...you are correct...but 98% of the ones that 'work just fine' either have high idles, have extremely tight blow off valves, or have their IACV cranked or similar to help compensate. There is no other reason for it...no magical setups, not mystery tunes, nothing.

So while we may seem overbearing saying it won't work, the truth is that the only reason it 'will' work are due to extracurricular issues.