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anton1o
12-12-2010, 03:20 PM
Purely amazing.. 2 top people from D1GP have walked away.. and wrecked magazine are also stating that Yokohama tyres are also going to jump ship!

Who knows if this will be the fall of it!


In news from Japan that is sure to shock many fans, Daijiro Inada and Keiichi Tsuchiya have confirmed they are pulling out of their current commitments to D1, citing disagreements with other members as the cause. In a press release on Tsuchiya’s own blog, the Drift King goes on to explain the reasoning behind his decision to quit the D1 series but ends on a positive note, pledging to start a new one from scratch…


Full read @ www.7tune.com (http://www.7tune.com)

slider2828
12-12-2010, 03:33 PM
In my opinion when Kazama left D1 it was over.... Ever since he left, the judging has been complete and utter BS.... D1 can't go any further than down, so I think this is a welcomed thing....

Also is sorta bs, when all you can do is go high powered, that is just not racing in any sport especially when most pay say that you have to go with 700+ HP machines to be competitive, wtf? Oh wellz I don't care about D1 ever since the judging started pissing me off

doomviillain
12-12-2010, 03:41 PM
well after reading the article they're going to start a new series from scratch but we'll see how that goes. Im actually looking forward to how the new series is going to be, hopefully it wont be disappointing.

chiboy002
12-12-2010, 05:21 PM
i wonder if all the old judges are cool, like tsuchiya, inada, kazama, etc. Like if theyre friends, cause then they should just start their own series with them as judges - no one else

slider2828
12-12-2010, 05:27 PM
Yeah they are I think a LOT of those guys have had arguments over rules vs. media and a LOT of politics. Basically D1 turning into BS JGTC politics crap...

Matej
12-12-2010, 05:28 PM
D2001gp. :)

12-12-2010, 05:38 PM
In my opinion when Kazama left D1 it was over.... Ever since he left, the judging has been complete and utter BS.... D1 can't go any further than down, so I think this is a welcomed thing....



+1


msglength

chiboy002
12-12-2010, 05:51 PM
Inada and Tsuchiya founded D1GP...
shieeet, had no idea. But are they friends with all the other "better" judges and such? That's what im asking, cause if so it'd be cool if they started it as a closed-judging thing

Shadowhunter
12-12-2010, 05:53 PM
Crazy as both of them founded D1GP, what can possibly be left?

chiboy002
12-12-2010, 05:59 PM
where the hell did your other post go? lol

KansaiDrifter
12-12-2010, 06:18 PM
Yeah when I saw Kazama leave I wondered, apparently Taniguchi was fed up also at that time, that spelled the begging of the end for sure.

Would love to see some sort of merge between FD and the ex D1 guys, would be a epic world drift series of the best of the best, but I'm sure FD probably wants to stay independent of that though. But on the other hand, Formula Drift Japan????

memphis180sx
12-12-2010, 06:21 PM
d1 will survie i think you got people like Ken Nomura,team orange and so on between those 2 thell find some way to compete

krookedstyle
12-12-2010, 06:44 PM
Yeah when I saw Kazama leave I wondered, apparently Taniguchi was fed up also at that time, that spelled the begging of the end for sure.

Would love to see some sort of merge between FD and the ex D1 guys, would be a epic world drift series of the best of the best, but I'm sure FD probably wants to stay independent of that though. But on the other hand, Formula Drift Japan????

I hope this does not happen then it will be a whole bunch of gross ass v-8"s in the drift scene there is one thing that America has always done well, and thats sticking they're nose where it doesn't belong and ruining things making it worse. (just my $.02.)

all show no go
12-12-2010, 07:23 PM
In my opinion when Kazama left D1 it was over.... Ever since he left, the judging has been complete and utter BS.... D1 can't go any further than down, so I think this is a welcomed thing....

Also is sorta bs, when all you can do is go high powered, that is just not racing in any sport especially when most pay say that you have to go with 700+ HP machines to be competitive, wtf? Oh wellz I don't care about D1 ever since the judging started pissing me off

+1, When Kazama left, the fun immediately followed.

sincity_sil80
12-12-2010, 07:24 PM
ya.. i dont know much about the sport.. but i liked when it was 4ags in truenos and sr's in 240s.. now everything has to have a v8 pushing out rediculous numbers in order to stay competitive. i could do without. :2c:

s14freak93901
12-12-2010, 07:33 PM
taniguchi was the star of D1. once he left i thought D1 died then kazama came around. once he left, theres nothing.

articdragon192
12-12-2010, 08:40 PM
taniguchi was the star of D1. once he left i thought D1 died then kazama came around. once he left, theres nothing.

Agreed. Once that whole deal with XDL happened, D1 lost a good amount of fans with NOB not returning to drive. I'd love to see NOB drifting again in a new series. I hope MSC starts gaining more attention as well.

anton1o
12-12-2010, 08:46 PM
I have my thoughts that KumoKubo will walk in and take over a leading role with D1GP, He has the ability to bring it back.

Altho i dont know how people are saying 'its lost its fun' are you D1 drivers, or attendes of events to see why its not fun anymore?

Nick_04K
12-12-2010, 08:52 PM
I hope this does not happen then it will be a whole bunch of gross ass v-8"s in the drift scene there is one thing that America has always done well, and thats sticking they're nose where it doesn't belong and ruining things making it worse. (just my $.02.)

Your a fucking idiot. :cj:

HAWAII
12-12-2010, 11:45 PM
FD and D1? You have to be kidding us. FD is the dumbest thing that ever happen to drifting! NASCAR V8s? V8 this, V8 that. Car Manufaturer sponsorships, pouring in big money in the game.

It was really so much fun back then. now its corporate sponsor this and that, the winners podium consist of the same guys over and over even when the privateer does a better run.

sidewayz or nowayz!!
12-13-2010, 12:13 AM
FD and D1? You have to be kidding us. FD is the dumbest thing that ever happen to drifting! NASCAR V8s? V8 this, V8 that. Car Manufaturer sponsorships, pouring in big money in the game.

It was really so much fun back then. now its corporate sponsor this and that, the winners podium consist of the same guys over and over even when the privateer does a better run.

^^^ :werd: that pretty much sums up what that pos FD is and what it did to drifting its a fuckn damn shame :mad:

articdragon192
12-13-2010, 12:51 AM
FD and D1? You have to be kidding us. FD is the dumbest thing that ever happen to drifting! NASCAR V8s? V8 this, V8 that. Car Manufaturer sponsorships, pouring in big money in the game.

It was really so much fun back then. now its corporate sponsor this and that, the winners podium consist of the same guys over and over even when the privateer does a better run.

^^^ :werd: that pretty much sums up what that pos FD is and what it did to drifting its a fuckn damn shame :mad:

How did FD get into this. The way I see it, FD is still growing, where, as of right now, D1GP is having a major fallout with both of its founders pulling out completely.
And Advan most likely pulling out of sponsoring it as well. That would be like Hankook pulling out of FD.

Quit trying to bring FD down just because V8s are in it. It's still thriving. D1 just took a hard blow and has been on a downward spiral for a decent while now. No point in comparing.

xxcivic96xx
12-13-2010, 02:20 AM
FD and D1? You have to be kidding us. FD is the dumbest thing that ever happen to drifting! NASCAR V8s? V8 this, V8 that. Car Manufaturer sponsorships, pouring in big money in the game.

It was really so much fun back then. now its corporate sponsor this and that, the winners podium consist of the same guys over and over even when the privateer does a better run.

I hope this does not happen then it will be a whole bunch of gross ass v-8"s in the drift scene there is one thing that America has always done well, and thats sticking they're nose where it doesn't belong and ruining things making it worse. (just my $.02.)
i couldnt agree with the whole FD all about v 8's and who has the most power. i want to see STYLE and taking risks! not some boring routine of just getting through the track as fast as possible. it seems like the fd judges are biased towards the big name people as well

Slidin' Sam
12-13-2010, 03:50 AM
Ok, all of you who are hating on FD because of v8's and high horsepower, THEN praising D1 are absolutely retarded.

D1's V8 Is the JZ motor now. They are making REDICULOUS HP. It is a HUGE hp battle over here. The only reason for Kumakubo building the Laurel was to be competitive in the world of HP. V8's aren't used here because they are not as easily accessible, but guess what, the 1/1.5/2JZ motors are! Slap a big ass turbo on it and make huge power....oh and before you make the claim that the cars are super laggy and what not, well, they use nitrous to spool the turbo's to compensate. JZ + Big Turbo + NOS = NASCAR V8 (as far as drifting is concerned). Kumakubo wants to ban NOS, and Daigo is addicted (I'm dead serious) to horsepower. He can't get enough. They had to de-tune his d1 car from 1,100hp to 8-900hp because they were breaking too much stuff.

Both sides have their pluses and minuses. Accept that. Move on.

I think/hope this will be a good thing for professional drifting in Japan. IMO it is long overdue. D1 needed a huge shake up a few years ago.

Cheesy Doriftos
12-13-2010, 09:01 AM
hope MSC gets more coverage and becomes bigger now.

s13coupedrfter
12-13-2010, 11:07 AM
Ok, all of you who are hating on FD because of v8's and high horsepower, THEN praising D1 are absolutely retarded.

D1's V8 Is the JZ motor now. They are making REDICULOUS HP. It is a HUGE hp battle over here. The only reason for Kumakubo building the Laurel was to be competitive in the world of HP. V8's aren't used here because they are not as easily accessible, but guess what, the 1/1.5/2JZ motors are! Slap a big ass turbo on it and make huge power....oh and before you make the claim that the cars are super laggy and what not, well, they use nitrous to spool the turbo's to compensate. JZ + Big Turbo + NOS = NASCAR V8 (as far as drifting is concerned). Kumakubo wants to ban NOS, and Daigo is addicted (I'm dead serious) to horsepower. He can't get enough. They had to de-tune his d1 car from 1,100hp to 8-900hp because they were breaking too much stuff.

Both sides have their pluses and minuses. Accept that. Move on.

I think/hope this will be a good thing for professional drifting in Japan. IMO it is long overdue. D1 needed a huge shake up a few years ago.

I completely agree. V8's are way more accessible here which is why I stuffed one in my s13. I wanted to keep my maintenance costs down and my reliability up compared to my rb25 set-up. Once you push big boost on sr, rb etc you are decreasing the reliability factor. Im making a easy 380 hp on the ls1 setup with minor mods and can push the motor all day. People need to stop hating the V8 movment going on in FD and instead focus on supporting the drivers (especially the pro-am guys).

all show no go
12-13-2010, 01:16 PM
I have my thoughts that KumoKubo will walk in and take over a leading role with D1GP, He has the ability to bring it back.

Altho i dont know how people are saying 'its lost its fun' are you D1 drivers, or attendes of events to see why its not fun anymore?


Okay, not as fun anymore to spectate to clarify. The last D1 usa events were pretty stale and boring, a bland diet version of the early D1 events. That's referring to what the United States were presented with in 2009. I know it's a totally different ball game from spectating & driving. That's why I'm not even gonna jump into to FD vs D1 politics mix.

brndck
12-13-2010, 01:44 PM
as much as this news sucks i hope it means a big boost for msc.
i completely agree that once kazama left it was the beginning of the end.
what i don't understand is i thought dai-chan and keiichi pretty much "owned" d1?
are there private investors they're feuding with? are dai and keiichi feuding with each other?
i'm not sure exactly who is fighting with who here?
hopefully it will mean reform in one sort or another.

and i still think there should be 2 classes; under 400hp and over 400hp. or have restrictor plates like they do in fia rally. otherwise it'll just keep getting worse until you've gotta have a 1000+hp 2jz with a t88 + spray just to keep up.

my .02

sidewayz or nowayz!!
12-13-2010, 01:45 PM
How did FD get into this. The way I see it, FD is still growing, where, as of right now, D1GP is having a major fallout with both of its founders pulling out completely.
And Advan most likely pulling out of sponsoring it as well. That would be like Hankook pulling out of FD.

Quit trying to bring FD down just because V8s are in it. It's still thriving. D1 just took a hard blow and has been on a downward spiral for a decent while now. No point in comparing.

well first fuck V8s, and second its not jus the V8s its everything tha FD did to drifting in general it made drifting a joke (kind of like todays music). drifting had always been about having fun and doing it for the love of the sport. now half the fuckn FD drivers are just in it for the fame and money and the judges are stupid ignorant fucks who favor all the domestic cars regardless of their performance on the track.

North
12-13-2010, 03:21 PM
well first fuck V8s, and second its not jus the V8s its everything tha FD did to drifting in general it made drifting a joke (kind of like todays music). drifting had always been about having fun and doing it for the love of the sport. now half the fuckn FD drivers are just in it for the fame and money and the judges are stupid ignorant fucks who favor all the domestic cars regardless of their performance on the track.

So... how does that explain Chris Forsberg winning last year in a 350z, and Tanner Foust the year before in another 350z? Pretty much, up until this year, a Nissan has won 3 times in a row.

As for the fame and money, anyone competing at the level of D1/FD/BDC/whatever is in it for more than just "the love of drifting." Otherwise they'd just stick to grassroots events and track days. Not saying they don't love it, but come on now.

And the horsepower battle, it's always going to happen when the rules allow it. But, I don't see how anyone's complaining now about V8's or whatever/whoever when Daigo already has an 800hp car, Kumakubo is coming out with a 1000hp car, and a few years ago Kuroi (RIP) had a 600hp car when everyone else was still in the 3-400 range... If you love the sport than love it, for both it's good and bad sides. Nothing's perfect. If you hate it so much than move on.

tricky_ab
12-13-2010, 08:36 PM
hope MSC gets more coverage and becomes bigger now.

THIS! I stopped watching D1 DVD's a while ago and followed D1SL DVD's and MSC series over the net.

I think the downfall could be seen for a while now and it makes me sad but the smaller series can now grow some legs and become something awesome! I hope it doesn't turn into a huge HP power war or things will be right back to where they were previously (minus shitty judging).

bc.
12-13-2010, 09:07 PM
hope MSC gets more coverage and becomes bigger now.

be careful what you wish for... :P

Silverstreek
12-13-2010, 09:27 PM
hope MSC gets more coverage and becomes bigger now.

x2... and is there anywhere we can watch live feeds of MSC?

kaking
12-13-2010, 09:38 PM
Yeah its alot more boring to watch than it used to be

chiprez
12-13-2010, 09:43 PM
So... how does that explain Chris Forsberg winning last year in a 350z, and Tanner Foust the year before in another 350z? Pretty much, up until this year, a Nissan has won 3 times in a row.

As for the fame and money, anyone competing at the level of D1/FD/BDC/whatever is in it for more than just "the love of drifting." Otherwise they'd just stick to grassroots events and track days. Not saying they don't love it, but come on now.

And the horsepower battle, it's always going to happen when the rules allow it. But, I don't see how anyone's complaining now about V8's or whatever/whoever when Daigo already has an 800hp car, Kumakubo is coming out with a 1000hp car, and a few years ago Kuroi (RIP) had a 600hp car when everyone else was still in the 3-400 range... If you love the sport than love it, for both it's good and bad sides. Nothing's perfect. If you hate it so much than move on.

yea tanner won in hes Z when it was a turbi VQ and Foresberg had a regular 5.7L nissan v8...now he has a CORR race truck engine...

slider2828
12-13-2010, 09:50 PM
I also think out of everything, they have to come up with a better scoring syste)m some how... I think its just tooo loss. When I said daigo losing at fuji vs. imamura (RX7... I was pissed... He had more smoke more speed more angle and he lost.... WTF... Screw that... Last time I ever watched D1 and will ever again. I stopped after Kazama got ousted as well... So forget this bs....

MSC for SURE!!!!

articdragon192
12-14-2010, 01:16 AM
well first fuck V8s, and second its not jus the V8s its everything tha FD did to drifting in general it made drifting a joke (kind of like todays music). drifting had always been about having fun and doing it for the love of the sport. now half the fuckn FD drivers are just in it for the fame and money and the judges are stupid ignorant fucks who favor all the domestic cars regardless of their performance on the track.

I'm pretty sure a lot of those drivers are still having a lot of fun doing what they're doing on the track. Don't be so closed minded about FD. Sure, the judging can suck, but that doesn't take away from the fact that a lot of drivers are there for the love of drifting. Perfect examples are Joon Maeng and Fredrick Aasbo.

Again, this thread ISN'T about FD. It's about D1s major shake up. Just drop it.

tricky_ab
12-14-2010, 03:23 PM
be careful what you wish for... :P

Ssssssshhhhhhhhh don't jinx it!:eek3:

brndck
12-14-2010, 05:48 PM
well first fuck V8s, and second its not jus the V8s its everything tha FD did to drifting in general it made drifting a joke (kind of like todays music). drifting had always been about having fun and doing it for the love of the sport. now half the fuckn FD drivers are just in it for the fame and money and the judges are stupid ignorant fucks who favor all the domestic cars regardless of their performance on the track.

hahahaha you fucking retard.
where is all this money you think fd drivers are getting paid???
with the exception of maybe the top 5-8 drivers i doubt any of em collect a salary bigger than what they'd make in a 9-5, and a majority of that goes right back into their car, tires, parts, travel to events. if you think they're making some kind of fortune you've got your head incredibly far up your ass.

if, by your logic, the judges are so heavily favored towards domestics, why then does hubinette no longer finish top 5 on a consistent basis anymore? he's the poster child for mopar but can't seem to nail a podium these days.

fckillerbee
12-14-2010, 06:26 PM
its cause people like vaughn, tanner, and forseburg....are actually good drivers!

they buy v8's because it's reliable horsepower. reliable horsepower means it's cheaper for the team to run....cheaper means they may actually make money doing this.

but realistically.....top 10 drivers are getting paid to drive...and even then....don't think they are getting over 100k....maybe vaughn...and maybe tanner...but that's not from driving...that's from all the other programs they have running.

if forseburg made bookoo bucks...you think his missle car would be a ka-t.......no. he'd probably drop in at least a rb.....

AGNT84
12-15-2010, 01:32 AM
if, by your logic, the judges are so heavily favored towards domestics, why then does hubinette no longer finish top 5 on a consistent basis anymore? he's the poster child for mopar but can't seem to nail a podium these days.

+1
on that note...its what happens when the sport is growing. im hoping the new series will be better and we will see NOB and kazama back...

Pandapants
12-15-2010, 07:37 AM
It's kind of like those metal bands where all the original members were replaced with other people but the original name is kept.

Slidin' Sam
12-16-2010, 04:33 PM
if forseburg made bookoo bucks...you think his missle car would be a ka-t.......no. he'd probably drop in at least a rb.....

missiles are supposed to be cheap, so if he had stuff to do a ka-t just lying around, or if he was able to source it cheaper than something else, then that's probably why he went with it. Daigo has money, and his missile is a jzx90 w/ a very stockish set-up...basically boost up, welded engine/trans mount, aftermarket clutch, and a 2way. CHEAP!

anton1o
12-16-2010, 10:01 PM
and his mates with HEYMan which makes knuckles and all kinds of drift gear.. Ill pust up a video i have on him/shinji from heyman and that later pretty much door or door dodgem cart drifting!

kapowerhicomp1
12-22-2010, 06:57 PM
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/jameshicomp/turp_0507_01_od1_grand_prix_usakei_office_silvia-1.jpg







http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/jameshicomp/turp_0507_14_od1_grand_prix_usayasuyuki_kazama-1.jpg



I miss d1... Kazama Yasuyuki is my favorite..:rawk:

sr23det
12-22-2010, 07:47 PM
Msc ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Toi
12-22-2010, 10:29 PM
No it is lame, when it started out it was any ones game. A no name wants to run no problem, overtaking was one way to win but not the only way, and actually kissing the wall ever so slightly or leaving the pavement was encouraged.

Getting on the wall PROPERLY compared to slapping it and recovering has all but faded, the competitions are more on who can overtake the other.

AGAIN WTF......This isn't togue, its Drift, they are not running down Towadako mountain, or the back of 58 in Okinawa, they are not running time attacks either.

If you want high HP and sliding bring back Group B rally cars!

I am glad its gone like this, the end of license requirements to compete has to be one of the best things I have heard in a while.

tricky_ab
12-26-2010, 06:40 AM
So what the heck is going to happen to a lot of the Option videos?!?!

Toi
12-29-2010, 03:02 AM
LOL it will be broken down to Option and Option 2 Drift vids I guess I dunno

tricky_ab
01-01-2011, 03:40 PM
Oh and Drift Tengoku videos?!?! Crap I forgot about those as well. Here's hoping for more MSC content this year!

BoostSlideWayz
01-01-2011, 08:11 PM
I bet there like * americans have ruined the sport we created so were gonna make a diff sport *

s14freak93901
01-01-2011, 08:25 PM
still don't know how the V8 rant started. it has nothing to do with D1.

roboticnissan
01-01-2011, 08:39 PM
Since so many people hate v8 swApped cars maybe they could do a formula d street class series that limits motors to being stock to that chassis or something like that. I know Japan had a street class series and it was. Pretty sick imo.

supportTHEezln
01-02-2011, 01:41 AM
Dang, I thought this thread was about the death of D1.

Apparently it's about FD, and how people don't like V8s.

tricky_ab
01-02-2011, 08:30 PM
Since so many people hate v8 swApped cars maybe they could do a formula d street class series that limits motors to being stock to that chassis or something like that. I know Japan had a street class series and it was. Pretty sick imo.

Yeah it was D1 Street Legal and it was the shit! I mentioned it before but I stopped watching the regular Option DVD's in favour of watching the D1SL DVD's. Man I hope they release the next one :( (And possibly final one ever).

S-Nation S13
01-02-2011, 08:43 PM
yes finally, at least drifting can be drifting again, not this mainstream shit as we know it today!!!

tricky_ab
01-03-2011, 01:13 PM
EXCLUSIVE – THE DRIFT KING ON 2011 : 7Tune.com (http://www.7tune.com/exclusive-the-drift-king-on-2011/)

New series through Hot Version? Greed, High HP and less skill some of the reason as to why he left? Mana-P and kumakubo staying with D1?

DirtyDeuce
01-03-2011, 04:22 PM
Ours has turned into a dragrace, america.

Corbic
01-03-2011, 08:22 PM
Since so many people hate v8 swApped cars maybe they could do a formula d street class series that limits motors to being stock to that chassis or something like that. I know Japan had a street class series and it was. Pretty sick imo.

Cause a Stock-KA 240sx is totally going to go head to head with a Z06.


This is PROFESSIONAL RACING. Everyone needs to stfu and let that sink in for a bit. Teams are going to manipulate and abuse whatever loop-holes and rules you give them.

Say "stock cars only" and everyone will be running out and buying the latest Corvettes, 370's, Vipers and Mustangs... not +30 year old Corollas and 240s.

Say "no more then 500whp" and teams will be turbo charging Mustangs and 370s up to 1000hp and putting restriction plates on them so you have 500whp from 100rpms up too 8000rpm.

Imarvin240
01-03-2011, 11:36 PM
Cause a Stock-KA 240sx is totally going to go head to head with a Z06.


This is PROFESSIONAL RACING. Everyone needs to stfu and let that sink in for a bit. Teams are going to manipulate and abuse whatever loop-holes and rules you give them.

Say "stock cars only" and everyone will be running out and buying the latest Corvettes, 370's, Vipers and Mustangs... not +30 year old Corollas and 240s.

Say "no more then 500whp" and teams will be turbo charging Mustangs and 370s up to 1000hp and putting restriction plates on them so you have 500whp from 100rpms up too 8000rpm.

I understand what you're saying, but drift needs classes...its the only automotive sport that doesnt have classes. everyone else has them, time attack, drag, auto x, rally, and so on...they need to make classes so that people are competing against like vehicles. people have stated already, a 300hp 240 cant compete again vehicles like the mopar viper...it would make more sence to just have classes. how are your average 350hp 240 owners supposed to come out and compete when they are doing it against cars that are company built with 3x the power? im not getting into the stupid v8 argument, because in the end it all comes back to that it wouldnt be a problem if they had classes. its just my 2 cents and i would think i speak for a few people that would agree with me...again, its just my opinion hah

robunicu
01-04-2011, 06:35 AM
^ agreed, classes would just open doors for new people to get in the game, and would give opportunities to people with out sponsors and big money. this way it would make the sport more interesting because you would have a way to advance...

start out in the 250hp class for a year or two.. move on to the 400 class after a while.. and so on..

tricky_ab
01-04-2011, 08:22 AM
They had that in Japan and it didn't do much. MSC -> D1SL -> D1. Personally it was more fun watching MSC and D1SL then D1 Pro.