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mr2_slo
12-12-2010, 01:52 AM
*Not sure if this is the right section or not so sorry if it isnt*
*And sorry if there is a thread allready discussing this issue*


Anyways this is a drunken argument between me and some freinds.
The argument is that a fiberglass bumper will protect better in a clipping with a hay bail better than a uerothane bumper. A buddy sais the fg bumper will disperse energy away from the intercooler and the only thing that gets damaged is the bumper. I say the uerothane bumper will hold up better and protect better then the fg bumper. Both bumpers will be held up by zipties which in both cases the zt's will break the bumper loose.
I know plenty of people have had incidents with hay bails etc. Id like some other feedback to help prove either point.
Thanks

12-12-2010, 02:02 AM
polyurethane > fiberglass

ANY DAY.

Schassis707
12-12-2010, 02:04 AM
polyurethane > fiberglass

ANY DAY.

+1

msglength

mr2_slo
12-12-2010, 02:13 AM
Another argument by my buddy is that the urethane will bend in causing damage to the intercooler no matter where the bumper is hit. Because simple physics is to much for my small mind again im asking the zilvia community

12-12-2010, 02:16 AM
I believe it was shakespeare who once said thou crash your car, thou break shit regardless.

mr2_slo
12-12-2010, 02:21 AM
I believe it was shakespeare who once said thou crash your car, thou break shit regardless.

Thats true and also was a point i tried making but " that isnt what we were discussing" lol at my friends dumbass statements

12-12-2010, 02:24 AM
tell your friend to get a knife and run into it for failing humanity.

just kidding

FO REALS THO

Iron_Zenki
12-12-2010, 02:40 AM
I believe it was shakespeare who once said thou crash your car, thou break shit regardless.

Did he really? goes to show how much I payed attention in class :P

DreEzed
12-12-2010, 03:11 AM
Well... The Fiberglass bumper won't break if its reinforced with JB weld and Bondo. Its indestructible. I say you try it out and see who's the better man.

ixfxi
12-12-2010, 10:51 AM
you guys actually have cars out in Minnesota?

chiboy002
12-12-2010, 11:44 AM
Well... The Fiberglass bumper won't break if its reinforced with JB weld and Bondo. Its indestructible. I say you try it out and see who's the better man.
yeah lemme just slap a shit ton of bondo and 1 billion little tubes of jb weld all over my bumper so it doesn't crack when i slap the floor or hit a hay bail...
you guys actually have cars out in Minnesota?
lol

OP, idk about your discussion but from an everyday/drifting perspective

Fiber glass < urethane

fiber glass is itchy and a huge bitch to work with to repair bumpers. FRP cracks all the time, mine's cracking and started cracking from when i put it on, so it's kinda annoying unless you deal with it

Urethane, more often than not, is oem quality. You can jump on urethane, twist it, run over it all you want and you'll see little damage done. It lasts far longer than frp.

Only upside, fiberglass aero is a dime a dozen (not really but kinda) - Urethane usually costs more because of the process it takes or some shit

Yellow4g63
12-12-2010, 12:08 PM
I believe it was shakespeare who once said thou crash your car, thou break shit regardless.

:rofl::rofl:

ZilviaKid
12-12-2010, 12:12 PM
anyone who would choose to run fiberglass over urethane is either broke, or an idiot

zylvia213
12-12-2010, 01:51 PM
urethane definitely greater then FRP IMO... but its all really preferrence. Urethane is extremely flexible and durable as for the frp it also can be really flexible and strong if its top quality made. I use to make frp parts with a friend and the pieces we made were really light weight frp and we would be able to jump on them, twist them and bend them to the max and the parts wouldnt break or crack. But at the end either part when put to its test there will be damage regardless.

Matej
12-12-2010, 02:23 PM
The intercooler will be fine in either case, assuming the car has a bumper support.

MavericStephenc
12-12-2010, 02:50 PM
I love how you're just worried about hitting hay bails......


haaaaaaaay :ghey:

FaLKoN240
12-12-2010, 03:16 PM
If you're hitting something hard enough to fuck up an intercooler it will get fucked up regardless of whether or not the bumper is made of urethane or fiberglass.

lysticalz
12-12-2010, 08:07 PM
YouTube - Origin Aero kits are strong as hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7GEq_Ncedo)

vid on my buddy trashing my old origin rear bumper. fiberglass isnt soo bad, but im sure polyurethane is better

brndck
12-12-2010, 08:18 PM
this is an incredibly stupid argument. your friend is a retard.
poly > fiberglass
/thread.

Cannonblaster
12-12-2010, 08:38 PM
YA fiberglass is a pain! one it breaks it looks like ass and repairing it right isnt hard but takes time.!!
Poly>fiber!

jspecusa
12-13-2010, 12:29 AM
I have not seen a stock fiberglass bumper
Think about it.

510-SR20DET
12-13-2010, 12:49 AM
I was once towed my car and the tow hook bent the bumper 5 inches up, now you try to do the same with the fiberglass bumper. Good luck.

Hashiriya415
12-13-2010, 01:10 AM
To get back on topic, question is which will protect inter-cooler or whatever you have behind the bumper. Truth is neither one, they are not design to protect anything, but rather are for looks and aero. If you can't understand that, then look at older cars. All you see is metal bars, front and back. That is actually a bumper. These days, cars have covers over bumpers/crash bars.

anton1o
12-13-2010, 03:14 AM
I believe it was shakespeare who once said thou crash your car, thou break shit regardless.

Quote of the Year!

ixfxi
12-13-2010, 10:14 AM
I have not seen a stock fiberglass bumper
Think about it.

lamborghini? lotus?

nathanong87
12-13-2010, 10:20 AM
but urethane bumpers dont come in cool designs and shit. If someone makes a bn sports Type IV body kit in full urethane, i'd gladly pay a million dollars for that.

NNOCENT
12-13-2010, 11:32 AM
nathan you are up in every thread

:bigok:

s14freak93901
12-13-2010, 11:59 AM
nothing going to protect your FMIC if you hit the wall at 60mph +

nathanong87
12-13-2010, 01:28 PM
nathan you are up in every thread

:bigok:

only the cool ones

schrapnel85
12-21-2010, 08:17 PM
double post

schrapnel85
12-21-2010, 08:19 PM
anyone who would choose to run fiberglass over urethane is either broke, or an idiot
I spent 1500.00 on my dmax kit, its fiberglass...I doubt I'm broke as shit. retarded for spending that much on aero...definately haha

ZilviaKid
12-21-2010, 09:16 PM
I spent 1500.00 on my dmax kit, its fiberglass...I doubt I'm broke as shit. retarded for spending that much on aero...definately haha
did you have the option of going for the same one in urethane though? no.

dont misquote me.

Irresistible
12-21-2010, 10:00 PM
anyone who would choose to run fiberglass over urethane is either broke, or an idiot

I'd chose FRP over urethane anyday. I can fix the cracks with fiberglass and repaint the bumper, and with urethane, it'll most likely crack, or just bend. What do I do then? Maybe I just don't know if it's possible to repair urethane or not, but idk...

codyace
12-23-2010, 10:31 PM
If you're like me, and forget your car is kidna low, and drive it like a normal car, eurothane is your friend as it will bend or scrap.

I don't have the time, nor do i like the looked of cracked ass fiberglass. I enjoy being able to smack FIA curbing and keep going.

ZilviaKid
12-23-2010, 10:55 PM
I'd chose FRP over urethane anyday. I can fix the cracks with fiberglass and repaint the bumper, and with urethane, it'll most likely crack, or just bend. What do I do then? Maybe I just don't know if it's possible to repair urethane or not, but idk...

if your urathane bumper cracks, your car was probably written off and a shitty patch job is the least of your worries. urethane bends like a mother fucker, the most you would have is paint cracking.

drift freaq
12-24-2010, 12:00 AM
if your urathane bumper cracks, your car was probably written off and a shitty patch job is the least of your worries. urethane bends like a mother fucker, the most you would have is paint cracking.

You only get paint cracking with Urethane, when the guy who sprayed your car cheap'd out and did not add flex agent to the paint! LOL

codyace
12-24-2010, 12:16 AM
You only get paint cracking with Urethane, when the guy who sprayed your car cheap'd out and did not add flex agent to the paint! LOL

Or you rub curbing at 100

'just saying'

chiboy002
12-24-2010, 12:31 AM
I'd chose FRP over urethane anyday. I can fix the cracks with fiberglass and repaint the bumper, and with urethane, it'll most likely crack, or just bend. What do I do then? Maybe I just don't know if it's possible to repair urethane or not, but idk...
urethane will almost never crack seeing as its rubber. I go in my basement and stand on my oem bumper and shit wont do anything other than make me fall
did you have the option of going for the same one in urethane though? no.

dont misquote me.
There isn't really much of an option with urethane v frp. majority of companys make frp only
I spent 1500.00 on my dmax kit, its fiberglass...I doubt I'm broke as shit. retarded for spending that much on aero...definately haha
This

Corbic
12-24-2010, 09:48 PM
I spent 1500.00 on my dmax kit, its fiberglass...I doubt I'm broke as shit. retarded for spending that much on aero...definately haha

Few people are droping that type of cash of FRP in broke-dick 240 world.


Most are still tweaking out over a $400 body kit set off ebay.

Irresistible
12-25-2010, 02:12 AM
if your urathane bumper cracks, your car was probably written off and a shitty patch job is the least of your worries. urethane bends like a mother fucker, the most you would have is paint cracking.

Alright. My bad then. So I guess if given the option to get the aero I have now, in the same price range, I'd get urethane. Thing is, few companies actually offer urethane...

LoneStarSilvia
12-25-2010, 04:42 AM
What about urethane bending, sagging and warping from say heat or something like that?

Have you guys experienced anything like that? That's my only gripe and reason I'd rather go with fiberglass. I've seen some front bumpers for older Z's that sag and wave and people have to reinforce them with aluminum and etc...

Could be just the design, but regardless, the only downfall I see to fiberglass is it getting destroyed on impact, but then again I don't run into shit.

SuicidnS13
12-25-2010, 07:37 AM
but urethane bumpers dont come in cool designs and shit. If someone makes a bn sports Type IV body kit in full urethane, i'd gladly pay a million dollars for that.

And I would out bid you by $1.00 on ebay

ixfxi
12-25-2010, 09:38 AM
urethane will almost never crack seeing as its rubber. I go in my basement and stand on my oem bumper and shit wont do anything other than make me fall


urethane will crack over LONG time of sun exposure.. it breaks down just like any other material

i changed my front/rear bumpers because the old ones were heat stressed and had small spiderweb cracks which cannot be perm repaired.. only covered up.

slideways2004
12-27-2010, 09:38 PM
aftermarket urethane bumpers are no where near the quality and strength of OEM bumpers.

Also, it is really hard to repair urethane

Not sure if this is true,but I have heard urethane bumpers don't hold their shape at high speeds

nismobenzo
12-27-2010, 09:58 PM
but urethane bumpers dont come in cool designs and shit. If someone makes a bn sports Type IV body kit in full urethane, i'd gladly pay a million dollars for that.

i call dibs on it used for 20k =]

bc.
12-27-2010, 10:21 PM
If you hit a hay bail with something that breaks on contact (frp) there will be nothing supporting the impact area against that force. If the area does not break the load can be supported across a larger area (ure) and ideally the bail wont actually make contact with the intercooler.

I assume you meant clipping a hay bail not a head on collision. For real though, if you get rid of your bumper support for a fmic, make a crash bar.

chiboy002
12-28-2010, 03:10 AM
Could be just the design, but regardless, the only downfall I see to fiberglass is it getting destroyed on impact, but then again I don't run into shit.
idk about heat causing sag but... take the bumper off at track = not hitting shit. Don't drive like a dumbass = not hitting shit. FRP is fine for me
urethane will crack over LONG time of sun exposure.. it breaks down just like any other material

i changed my front/rear bumpers because the old ones were heat stressed and had small spiderweb cracks which cannot be perm repaired.. only covered up.
True that, but i said almost :)

mine has a few stress marks where it flexed too far but idc, its a back up bumper anyways

yingiang
12-29-2010, 12:11 AM
people like to modify their cars. thats why we all have 240s..to mod to our taste..along with everything else in this world. chose what you want, style how you want. there will always be someone who disapproves or hates. do you