R&B & rap-pop's recycling & sampling of classic songs for personal profit & fame

[Matej]

How does everyone feel about this?
It seems that every other single played on any pop station today uses a sample from some 80's or 90's hit classic for its hook. At first I did not care, but since then it seems to have spread like the plague, or like the use of auto-tune.
Rihanna, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Flo-Rida, will.i.am & the Black Eyed Peas, Eminem, Lil Wayne, and many others have done it, or are doing this very moment, on your local radio station!

It was in 2009 I believe, that Flo-Rida had three hit singles on the radio, and every single one of them was a recycled 90's euro hit. Sadly, a lot of the listeners do not even know the originals or that their current favorite track is just ripping off some old song.
The new Black Eyed Peas single which uses Dirty Dancing's The Time of my Life makes me want to kill myself. Ironically, on most of these tracks the sample is the only decent part and is responsible for the track's success. Which of course is why it has become so popular. You cannot really go wrong when half of your song is already a successful hit.
Just today I turned on the radio and heard some track by Lil Wayne and Eminem, which used Haddaway's What Is Love, and I thought, "NOOOOOOOO!"

I know that a lot of people say it is no big deal and if they can do it successfully then more power to them. However, I am willing to bet that all of these artists would make a big fuss if someone else decided to use a chunk of one of their own tracks and made a bunch of money off it.

[Enna]

Normally I would agree with what you said matej, however some of them do come out as fairly decent tracks. Some of them are quite questionable but there are a few that come out really well. This has been happening since the 90's though, just hasn't been as noticeable I suppose. I've only realized it lately when a song from the 90's plays on my ipod.

[Matej]

Normally I would agree with what you said matej, however some of them do come out as fairly decent tracks. Some of them are quite questionable but there are a few that come out really well. This has been happening since the 90's though, just hasn't been as noticeable I suppose. I've only realized it lately when a song from the 90's plays on my ipod.
Please do not get me wrong, I am not saying that all of them are bad. I admit, I have definitely enjoyed some. It just does not seem right to me how these artists are reaping success for work that is not completely their own.

[Enna]

I agree with you. I'm not saying all of them are bad, some are horrible though. I do wonder if they actually have gotten the OK from the label's that hold the rights to these songs.

[1on1]

When I heard the new song by The Black-Eyed Peas, I thought to myself, "oh cool, a remix classic of a good song." After that hook/chorus, I just turned off the radio and listened to my iphone. They killed a perfectly good song imo.

I have noticed this for quite awhile, and I think they are just trying to relive or bring back the good times.

I also noticed remakes of movies but that can be another discussion.

[Tom25666]

shit pisses me off. if you arent creative enough to make your own music, just take somebody elses and rap about hoez n gunz n shit over it

[Flicktitty]

shit pisses me off. if you arent creative enough to make your own music, just take somebody elses and rap about hoez n gunz n shit over it

i agree.

im not much of a rap fan anyway.

it's one thing to make a COVER of a song, another thing to use a major part over and over and over and over

[ESmorz]

It's awful, and I hate it.

That's about it.

[gzer750]

i feel u, but as long as the bitches shake their ass, it cool with me. i wont listen to this shit in my car, but at the bar or club its cool.

[ZenkiKid]

either way the composers of the classic song being sampled get paid everytime their stuff gets sampled.

Best believe that Afrika Bambatta got paid a grip for planet rock, which is the most sampled song of all time

[Phlip]

either way the composers of the classic song being sampled get paid everytime their stuff gets sampled.

Best believe that Afrika Bambatta got paid a grip for planet rock, which is the most sampled song of all time

You mean Kraftwerk's "Trans Europe Express" and "Numbers," right? Because those were the song that were used to make Planet Rock. In fact, the settlement that came from it is more than likely what led to this shitstorm of crappy samples used these days.
One thing to keep in mind is that the SAMPLED artist (or whomever owns the rights) has to approve of their sample to be used, and usually does so after reviewing the SAMPLING material. What this tells me is that they either approve of the shitting of their content or are whoring themselves out for the money.

When it boils down to it, though, EVERYONE in entertainment is selling themselves out, and that is the name of the game. If the conversation is to turn to what is/isn't "real hip hop," let us not forget that the Black Eyed Peas themselves had an album or two themselves that were what some of you might refer to as such, but became wildly popular releasing things more like their current output.

Fact remains that if we don't like it, our indifference would be best served by ignoring it and not giving it the pub that comes with talking about it. No artists who don't sell stick around for very long.

I could continue, lol...

[mr_eh]

i didnt read anyones replies. sorry.

i have no problem with sampling music or recycling music - what DOES piss me off is when people don't know the song it was sampled from or assume that the artist recycling it is so creative in that they are responsible for the music from start to finish.

so i hate a) people who hear the original song and say OH THATS FLO RIDAS SONG
and b) anyone who likes lady gaga's adult nursery rhyme schemes

[Tom25666]

so i hate a) people who hear the original song and say OH THATS FLO RIDAS SONG

hahaha flo rida is an excellent example. he rips off one song, puts some shittly lyrics to it, then he disappears. what a "talented" "artist"

[Bobafreak]

I hate the radio so I dont bother to listen maybe it explains why I dont know all the cool shit out. Speaking of cool, when is lupe coming out with his album.

Want cool music? Listen to phonte"s from lil brother side project or his album the leftback. 9th or not I love it.

[exitspeed]

I fuckin hate it and am ignoring it.

There are some good guys in R&B still (Robin Thicke, John Legend, Raphael Saddiq), but I'll stick with the good R&B from the 90's when shit was sincere and not just about getting a girl drunk to fuck her.

[Bobafreak]

Ive heard of robin thicke so has my girl. We will never go his show cause I may not see her again.....

[BustedS13]

yeah, this is really out of the ordinary. usually when i turn on the top 40 station, it's nothing but great, innovative, original songs. LOL

[Bobafreak]

Lol. I usually listen to above and beyond and I download methodus sets of drum and bass. Sets are usually 2hrs long so by the week I break down the sets on my drives to places or if im working around the house and thats that. The radio plays the same music every hr on the hr.

[brndck]

i find it annoying.
i also find autotune annoying.
this is why i don't listen to the radio.
meh. as long as the ORIGINAL artist gets paid their due royalties i'm sure it'll continue.
but i wanna smack people every time a "new" song comes on and they have no idea who wrote the original track being sampled/copied/bitten.

[hang_510]

ripoff artists is a better title!


covers???

to get to the sweet stuff, you have to remove the rapper.

[SochBAT]

I've never really been big on the whole R&B/rap scene. I ignore most radio artists because of this. Exceptions include Del the Funkie Homosapien, Kid Cudi, murs, common, mosdef and lupe fiasco. most others can DIAF.

[theronin]

my homie and i were just talkin about this at work today. sad thing, is most kids nowadays think these artists are so original and groundbreaking. they are using shit that was popular 20 years ago you fucking tools! but keep wearing your neon colors and flock of seagulls hair, originality is what the kids nowadays are all about :rolleyes:

[mrflip69]

Nothing new at ALL. A lot of the good shit from the 80s/90s was recycled or "sampled" from the 60s/70s. Just keep passing it forward. Artists are definitely getting lazier. Maybe we've reached a creative peak? Haha.

[kingkilburn]

I feel like most of the hiphop producers are to lazy to bother making a good track, samples or no.

I don't see any of them taking samples to this level.

SFc_XmAF710

[HyperTek]

but I'll stick with the good R&B from the 90's when shit was sincere and not just about getting a girl drunk to fuck her.

hahah forreal this just made my day lol.. i see girls on fb posting youtube music vids like that. Where are the morals in todays music? your a freaking role model for younger people.


Some samples though, pay good respect to the originals, hell makes me like the originals. But this probably because I love 90s music.. todays music not so much.

I think with said artist today, they sample popular recent songs.. you gotta flip something thats almost forgotten, and do it respect.

[stuckonfresh]

.. you gotta flip something thats almost forgotten, and do it respect.

If you mean pay tribute out of respect for that individual who originally created that song that was almost forgotten, I completely agree.

As for Autotune... cool, but singing sounds better IMO and only T-pain can use it.(no talk s*** or anything, but did anyone else hear that Mariah used auto tune in her song "Obssessed"? I guess in this sense autotune could be a useful finetuning tool)

[drift freaq]

fuck Autotune. Oh and you can thank Sher for that. She was the first artist to use autotune as a voice effect instead of using it for what it was designed to do. It just took a few more years for the R&B hip hop guys to jump on the bandwagon and drive it right into the ground.

Oh and since you are complaining about recycling shit. Lets not forgot Linda Perry from 4 non blondes the one hit wonders. LOL She is responsible for re writing a lot of very big 60's rock songs i.e. changing just enough of the song to make it an original but stealing the main hook that made it a hit. Can we say Pink? Linda Perry does most here writing. Oh and the Gwen Stefani solo album had Linda;s crap all over it as well. Shit Even Christina Auguilara used Linda's rewrites on her records.
So in a sense you really do have to blame it on the artists who fail to really pull some originality and rely on all this shit.

Hell look at Beyonce same thing. One of here biggest hits was a straight up sample of of a 60's soul record.

Now one thing about all these Artists is most are just singers or rappers. People who need people to write their music. Its there lack of A: Knowledge of the past or B: complete disregard for striving for a more original piece .
The Artist could put their foot down and say no, this is not original this is a rip off. They don't.
So there you have it. Most popular artists today suck anyways.

[Om1kron]

in a nutshell, get money, never give up money. why umad?

[Mangudai]

fuck Autotune. Oh and you can thank Sher for that. She was the first artist to use autotune as a voice effect instead of using it for what it was designed to do. It just took a few more years for the R&B hip hop guys to jump on the bandwagon and drive it right into the ground.

Oh and since you are complaining about recycling shit. Lets not forgot Linda Perry from 4 non blondes the one hit wonders. LOL She is responsible for re writing a lot of very big 60's rock songs i.e. changing just enough of the song to make it an original but stealing the main hook that made it a hit. Can we say Pink? Linda Perry does most here writing. Oh and the Gwen Stefani solo album had Linda;s crap all over it as well. Shit Even Christina Auguilara used Linda's rewrites on her records.
So in a sense you really do have to blame it on the artists who fail to really pull some originality and rely on all this shit.

Hell look at Beyonce same thing. One of here biggest hits was a straight up sample of of a 60's soul record.

Now one thing about all these Artists is most are just singers or rappers. People who need people to write their music. Its there lack of A: Knowledge of the past or B: complete disregard for striving for a more original piece .
The Artist could put their foot down and say no, this is not original this is a rip off. They don't.
So there you have it. Most popular artists today suck anyways.


I like how you broke this down and you're right. It still irks me that you have rappers who don't write their own lyrics. I guess if you have the image you can be successful.

[Bobafreak]

My playlist

Lupe
Pharcyde
Souls of mischuef
Gangstarr
Bahamadia
Jean grae
Murs
Jedi mind tricks
Wu tang
Little brother
Kanye(graduation,college dropout)
Brother eli
Mc eiht
Del the funky
consequence
The fugees
big sean
Wiz khalifa(thanks to vinhs ass lol guy makes me laugh)
Dev"n the dude (another comedian)

[BustedS13]

My playlist

Lupe
Pharcyde
Souls of mischuef
Gangstarr
Bahamadia
Jean grae
Murs
Jedi mind tricks
Wu tang
Little brother
Kanye(graduation,college dropout)
Brother eli
Mc eiht
Del the funky
consequence
The fugees
big sean
Wiz khalifa(thanks to vinhs ass lol guy makes me laugh)
Dev"n the dude (another comedian)

wrong thread

[HalveBlue]

Sampling is as old as music itself.

I don't really mind, as long as the final product is quality...which seems to be rather lacking these days.

[Cheesy Doriftos]

i don't mind it when done right

16EEyo29mcw
x7nStaio1Ws
________________________________________________

CUzGmDg19nQ
7a46RQMuHlo

[gearhead55]

An interesting flip of this concept: I heard cee-lo's (or the group he sang for, i don't remeber the name) cover of a violent femmes song, I think it was gone daddy gone, and I thought 'WTF they're just biting that song', and then I started listening to old blues music and I heard a bunch of the same lyrics in muddy waters' "I just want to make love to you" and realized that using material from previous greats is just part of music. Hell even the doors song 'back door man' is a blues cover of a howling' wolf song. It happens, just appreciate the talent in whatever you like listening to. If you think its just biting, say fuck that and move on.

[initial_jc]

if they didnt sample, we would have missed out on some rediculous drum breaks
for example YouTube - TOP 10 DRUM BREAKS IN HIP HOP w/ download (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uiJNqT4BM&feature=related)im sure youll recognize some


Sometimes its rediculous, like Dr. Dre on Eminem's " my name is"
here is the original sample listen around the 2:30 mark YouTube - Labi Siffre " I Got The" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVl6nCmQ9o)


if you are really interested in find out which songs have been sampled check outwww.the-breaks.com, AKA The (Rap) Sample FAQ (http://the-breaks.com/) you can look up by artist, or by song, youd be surprised who is using samples, i say about 40% of hiphop songs are using samples

[kingkilburn]

An interesting flip of this concept: I heard cee-lo's (or the group he sang for, i don't remeber the name) cover of a violent femmes song, I think it was gone daddy gone, and I thought 'WTF they're just biting that song', and then I started listening to old blues music and I heard a bunch of the same lyrics in muddy waters' "I just want to make love to you" and realized that using material from previous greats is just part of music. Hell even the doors song 'back door man' is a blues cover of a howling' wolf song. It happens, just appreciate the talent in whatever you like listening to. If you think its just biting, say fuck that and move on.

The difference there is that it is normal an expected for blues groups to cover and rework well known songs. Motown did a lot of that as well.

They always did it respectfully as well. No one was biting any one else.

[gearhead55]

The difference there is that it is normal an expected for blues groups to cover and rework well known songs. Motown did a lot of that as well.

They always did it respectfully as well. No one was biting any one else.

What? I was talking about bands remaking blues songs, not the other way around.

[HyperTek]

I hate when people start talkin about underground being the best.. uhhmmm the problem is underground artist dont push to get their stuff heard out to the mass public, so it will remain to be a small genre.

I have no problem with commercial when its done right.

[Phlip]

I hate when people start talkin about underground being the best.. uhhmmm the problem is underground artist dont push to get their stuff heard out to the mass public, so it will remain to be a small genre.

I have no problem with commercial when its done right.

On top of that, I STILL contend that the day you put the right amount of cash in front of ANY “underground” artist is the day they’re done with that “underground artist” talk. Either that or they’re comfortable with whatever means they’ve chosen to feed their families that is where and when they remain a small community, but I would still bet that THOSE -- when their product is ACTUALLY good enough to be sold -- have their price.
Sure, some of them will feed you the standard “I didn’t sell out, I did it to get my message heard” line of bullshit, but I do not buy it, not even a little bit.

[sarcasm]
Besides, everyone knows that hip hop isn't real music and shouldn't be taken seriously anyway.
[/sarcasm?]

[kingkilburn]

What? I was talking about bands remaking blues songs, not the other way around.

If it is normal for one blues band to cover another's songs why isn't ok for a none blues group to do it?

P.S.
Most music is blues any way. So it is still a blues group covering a blues group in most cases. :/

[gearhead55]

If it is normal for one blues band to cover another's songs why isn't ok for a none blues group to do it?

P.S.
Most music is blues any way. So it is still a blues group covering a blues group in most cases. :/

i dont think you read my whole post, i'm saying that it is ok. I didn't always think that but i do now.

[NecroS14]

Listen to Music Samples, Remixes and Cover Songs | WhoSampled (http://www.whosampled.com/)

who has sampled who, who has covered who. its pretty intertaining

ex. kanye west, harder ---> daft punk, harder, better, faster, stronger ---> edwin birdsong, cola bottle baby

[drift freaq]

in a nutshell, get money, never give up money. why umad?

In a nutshell Wayne I am not mad. Though I do dislike unoriginality in Music.

In Jazz there is a term 101 variations on a theme. Its basically the belief in Jazz is it all comes around.
The key though is being original. How can I write a riff that does not sound like a riff I heard but still get people even though it might be a variation on a riff I heard.
Something lost on a lot of rap/hip hop and pop artists these days.

Sampling is as old as music itself.

I don't really mind, as long as the final product is quality...which seems to be rather lacking these days.
Ah I take it you can't be much older than 25 at the most . LOL Sampling is not as old as Music itself. The first Samplers came about in the mid 80's the Synclavier, Emu with the First Emulator and their sampling drum machine.

The company that brought sampling to the masses though was Ensoniq with the Mirage. Linn drum was the first sampling drum machine and laid the foundation for the Akai line which is legendary in hip hop.
Mirages were used quite a bit as well even though they were 8 bit and had an insanely short amount of sampling time.
My first Sampler was a Mirage. LOL

Thing is Sampling was used a lot more originally back then. It was more about insane dramatic lines ripped from film or TV, and actual sounds, as well as drum sounds or beats.

Samplers were not invented to rip hooks or songs. They were invented to sample instruments so the keyboard players could broaden their sound palette with sounds they normally could not get their hands on or make with a synth.

In a sense there is nothing wrong with Sampling used creatively . Though when you literally lift the whole hook of a song? Well without slicing and dicing it, its a fail. Beyonce is guilty of this.

Sampling beats is not a big deal and its really not the issue here. I both sample beats and program beats.
I stated the problems with a lot of modern music and its not so much sampling beyond stealing whole hooks from classic songs.

Oh and phlip is right any real musician wants to make money for what they do. Its just a question of can they maintain integrity while doing it. Some can and do others don't . The ones that don't tend to lose respect. LOL

My whole issue is with the lack of integrity I see going on. Black eyed pea's in my opinion did not so much as sell out as they basically went down road of lets do what everyone else is doing. I.E. the autotune bandwagon.


They are capable of writing some damn catchy shit. Though they fall back on the same shit everyone else is doing. Autotune.
That is were they lose the integrity.

When Run DMC did "walk this way" they handled it right. They got Aerosmith involved it was dope because of it.
That was integrity.

When Beyonce ripped that soul song for her big hit a few years back it was just pure lets rip this off this record and one has to wonder if they even got the proper clearances for it.

Sampling these days does require getting clearances from Publishing houses for what you are sampling. LOL
I know I wanted to sample Buddy Holly back in the 90's for a House track and it was only him singing two words. The publishing company had this Idea I was going to sell millions of records. LOL an Underground dance record.
Suffice to say they wanted way to much for the clearances to make it worthwhile.

Though again being original with samples is the key not just lifting a hook you know will sell which is just lame. LOL
Oh and don't even get me started on mash ups. LOL

[kingkilburn]

How many countless contemporary copies are there to Mozart? The fact that people blindly copied him is a big contributing factor in his poverty and eventual early death.

There are tons of operas with the same melodic "themes". The writers just copied what worked and used it until audiences didn't respond to it any more.

I would have to say that people have been "sampling" as long as people have made muisc.

[Tom25666]

YouTube - Labi Siffre " I Got The" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVl6nCmQ9o)


that song is fucking tight

[jahmias]

I've haven't read all post, but have seen a few touch on this MAJOR detail when it comes to deciding what we listen to: CONTENT. For the most part the music radiating from your radio will lack that, IMO. But despite whether a song has a sample looping in the background, our coming through on the hook it's gonna come down to a quality issue. You won't find that on the radio, not very often atleaste. Sampling itself has be around forever. Indians sampled songs from their ancestors, that's how old the shit is, LOL. You'll find it across all genre's of music, not necessarily sampling but frankly copying other artist shit.
Because one uses samples in his music does it make them unoriginal?
Yes if there music sucks, no if they can makes something original of something unoriginal.

[ManoNegra]

Been meaning to check this thread out
Sampling has been around since forever
these were my first three cassettes (remember those?) that I purchased:
Beastie Boys - License to Ill
Run DMC - Raisig Hell
Slick Rick -The adventures of...
all around 86-88
just about all of the Hip Hop classics sampled heavily
difference imo was that before it was done a whole lot cleverly
and actually added to the songs as oppose to being a gimmick
the palette available was limitless - George Clinto, James Brown, Funk, Bob Marley...
in fact it was done so much that it was what eventually led to the change in law
that requires samples to be cleared and the original artists to be paid

remember Biz Markie?
His MC career practically ended because he was made the example in the wave of litigation that swept Hip Hop
the last album in his career? 1993's All Samples Cleared!
(yes, I know he put out an album in 2003)
reason why he became a DJ

Sampling isn't going anyway
and personally I was sad to see the heyday of the late 80s erly 90s go
since, to me, some of the most creative music in Hip Hop was done then

just my 2 cents


and btw, best album ever as far as sampling goes imo:
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)
a masterpiece that will never again be duplicated the way the industry is now

[atom]

When it boils down to it, though, EVERYONE in entertainment is selling themselves out, and that is the name of the game. If the conversation is to turn to what is/isn't "real hip hop," let us not forget that the Black Eyed Peas themselves had an album or two themselves that were what some of you might refer to as such, but became wildly popular releasing things more like their current output.


Behind the front was such a good album..........

But it's really unfair to say recycling is limited to rap or R&B. It's all music really. Once Nirvana hit it big, how many sound-a-like bands suddenly got record deals. Same with Linkin Park, The Strokes, My Chemical Romance, and now all these new wave rock bands are getting airplay now that that's cool again. It may not be sampled directly, but it's the same old shit. Everybody's trying to make a dollar.

BTW best album that was sampled was DJ Shadow - Entroducing :)

[HyperTek]

i made a samples thread on here long time ago posting up videos , was pretty cool, might have to dig it up.

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Fuck the following 5

-Lil wayne

-Kanye west (his mouth should have been wired shut)

-dj kalhed

-who ever made kush is my cologne

-lil wayne

[kingkilburn]

Fuck the following 5



-Kanye west (his mouth should have been wired shut)



:rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot:

[az_240]

There was an interesting show on PBS about this the other night.... Everyone samples shit. I don't see shame in it if it's done right.

[kingkilburn]

That's a big if.

[ManoNegra]

I remember wanting to stab my ears when Puff Daddy/P-Diddy/P-Douchebag raped Zep's Kashmir
what made it worse was seeing Jimmy Page humiliating himself in the video

[Devius]

personally i like it. in MOST cases. but like someone that posted before me said, i hate when an artist makes a song sampling music, then his/her fans think that the beat was entirely created by the person sampling. Thats my only problem. Hell i could put in a snoop dogg album and hear some sampled music. But1, i know snoop aint gonna butcher the song because thats the music he grew up on, and he respects it. Hes even said so himself.


Another thing, i think its a bit bias to single out rap and R&B, because they arent the only ones sampling music. So if your gonna target music sampling, Target it as a whole

[drift freaq]

personally i like it. in MOST cases. but like someone that posted before me said, i hate when an artist makes a song sampling music, then his/her fans think that the beat was entirely created by the person sampling. Thats my only problem. Hell i could put in a snoop dogg album and hear some sampled music. But1, i know snoop aint gonna butcher the song because thats the music he grew up on, and he respects it. Hes even said so himself.


Another thing, i think its a bit bias to single out rap and R&B, because they arent the only ones sampling music. So if your gonna target music sampling, Target it as a whole

Its easy to target rap and R%B because that is one of the few mediums getting a decent modicum of airplay. Its also very quite common in those genre's.
It is by no means the only the Genre its done in. It is one were the most unoriginal use of sampling is done.


Now on to the people that keep on saying sampling has been around since Mozart.

LOL you guys need to understand musical definitions. Sampling in Music was created in the early 80's. The definition of sampling in music which involves a sampler is: recording the sound and or looping it with a Digital device for playback.
The technology did not exist before that beyond rudimentary tape type samplers which were analog.

Copying a song i.e. learning to replay a persons music is NOT SAMPLING! Its RECITING!

Oh and most composers of the 1700-1800's did not go broke because of people copying their music. LOL any one who thinks that is trying to justify their own actions of ripping off modern music.

Some of them went broke or died poor due to ill health, deafness( Beethoven)
and no way to actually sell the music they made beyond performance. Seeing as travel was not optimum performance did always pay either.

People need to stop rationalizing this. They do need to understand what I said earlier. I do not feel their is anything wrong with Sampling. I do feel the way some artist/producer/musicians are using it.
Please stop throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I will say this again it all comes down to Integrity and originality.

Music will forever be redone again like said with the definition of Jazz but lets increase it slightly 1001 variations on a theme.

Once again the key I reiterate is Integrity and originality. Music can be redone without sounding like everything else. If the person strives for that.. Its all up to them.

I would most of you saying otherwise are not even musicians. I speak from the other side of the table. I am a musician.

[HyperTek]

you guys forgot everyone that calls themself lil and young. lol
how does lil boosie make a billboard top selling album while in jail... his voice sounds like crap.

Dont forget Kanye did the last batch of Common's albums.

[kingkilburn]

blah blah blah


I was talking about the spirit of it, hence the "s around "sampling". Clearly you could not electrically sample music in the 16th century. It is the same lack of originality and creativity, as well as out right laziness.

Way to be an over specific blow hard. Again.

[Devius]

how does lil boosie make a billboard top selling album while in jail... his voice sounds like crap.



Because people in the south have no taste in music, style, anything really.u roll around here, they all listen to the same shitty music. U look at their cars, nothing but monte carlos, caprices, olds mobiles, etc on the same 26 inch rims or "Choppers" with a BIG ASS "26" in the window and a massive chevy logo on the side. So the lack of style/originality is apparent in the horrible music. u get enough people to like stupid shit, sadly its gonna get "popular"

[Devius]

Because people in the south have no taste in music, style, anything really.u roll around here, they all listen to the same shitty music. U look at their cars, nothing but monte carlos, caprices, olds mobiles, etc on the same 26 inch rims or "Choppers" with a BIG ASS "26" in the window and a massive chevy logo on the side. So the lack of style/originality is apparent in the horrible music. u get enough people to like stupid shit, sadly its gonna get "popular"

Oh, and of course selling a stupid dance to go with it. or rappin about selling drugs and "Stackin paper" cuz thats all lazy people dream about doin while smokin weed at they baby mommas, grandma house

[gearhead55]

Oh, and of course selling a stupid dance to go with it. or rappin about selling drugs and "Stackin paper" cuz thats all lazy people dream about doin while smokin weed at they baby mommas, grandma house

Haha tell us how you really feel...