BREAKING! N. Korea Attacks S. Korea

[KiLLeR2001]

Report: N. Korea fires on S. Korea, injuring at least 16 - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/23/nkorea.skorea.military.fire/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1)

Happened about an hour ago...

[yvang07]

Oh damn, I wonder what they'll do. Also whether the U.S. will intervene or not (most likely will?).

[ESmorz]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd nothing will happen.

[BustedS13]

fuck.

get gas.i bet gas goes up maybe a quarter for a day or two.

[ESmorz]

Buy Hyundai's at Discount Rates

[Weedm]

it was only a matter of time

[Cheesy Doriftos]

sh*t just got real

[BustedS13]

Buy Hyundai's at Discount Rates

2 for 1? on a CARRRR?!

but yeah, my bad. my post looked unnecessarily serious. it should have read

get gas. it's probably going to go up like a quarter i bet for a day or two.

[Kwonza Says]

Oh noes O.O...

[bookoo]

Battle for korean world dominance of korea lulz.

Sent From My Super Cool Cell Phone Using A Really Cool App. Lulz.

[lawrenceyang]

epic starcraft battle will ensue. jk, prayers for all those who got hurt from the attacks

[WanganRunner]

They will settle this shit in Maple Story.

[maxtrbo93]

LOL @ Mortar Strike.....Valkyrie Rockets FTW

[dudermagee]

fuck
I really hope I don't get a call today asking if I'm in s korea

[simmode1]

Dude, WTF. This is bad news. Kim Jong-Il promotes his youngest son to a 5 star general, passes the reigns of dictatorship over to him and war breaks out a month or so later... Not a coincidence, I think.

[ZenkiKid]

This will be settled in a best of 4

Starcraft, Maplestory, ragnarok and WOW.

[5pecialist]

Don't worry guys! Obama said he will bring peace to the world (LOL) so this should be over once he publicly renounces it.

[driftsilvias13]

Fuck North Korea. I hope this shit doesnt get worse since I have almost all of my relatives there.

[VROOOM]

where is Team America when we need them.

[1on1]

where is team america when we need them.

matt damon!!!!!!!!!

[wh0aitznic0]

http://i53.tinypic.com/oh8z2b.jpg

[WIKID S4TEEN]

The start of WW III?

[nismolvr]

Send in the top special black ops team with all the latest military gadjets and hunt that psycho dictator down. Precision air strike the building hes in and level the whole block. I personally like ATTs old motto "Reach out and touch some one" with a high caliber long range rifle .Just have to get close enough to him and set up a shot.Bet that mofo has loads of security so that could be a big prob.Stick to my first idead ,yeah level the block with a Moab or 2000 lb JDAM. Forget watever political back lash we will get from the rest of the world. Never mind , shit forgot Obama is our Pres. Thought the guy from Texas was still running things.

[revcyanide]

i have about 6 friends in my flight being stationed there, we read this right as it happened in our class.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Meh.

Let's let them fight this out... it'll be short and NK will fall, creating a vacuum China will capitalize on.

We need not introduce another variable. Not our problem.

[Corbic]

Don't worry guys! Obama said he will bring peace to the world (LOL) so this should be over once he publicly renounces it.

There are 5 times as many conflicts in the first 10 years of the 21st century as there was inn the 20th and 25 times as many people have died as a result of conflict.

The world is farther from peace then it has ever been. The statistics of the 20th century are beyond numbing.

[Corbic]

Meh.

Let's let them fight this out... it'll be short and NK will fall, creating a vacuum China will capitalize on.

We need not introduce another variable. Not our problem.

I doubt it. North Korea =/ Iraq. It would be a full on Division on Division war comparable to what we saw in WWII and Korea. The NK Army is not a push over third rate military, and the terrain is nightmarish.

Also, with fanaticism rivaling islamic terrorism or the Walfen SS...and in position of a nuclear arsenal... I doubt they would think twice about nuking the entire peninsula + Japan when they realize they are defeated.


PS: While Obama has done a great job ignoring one of our strongest allies, it would be impossible to ignore a SK v NK war, especially seeing we have an entire US Army Division along the DMZ.

PPS: Koreans fought along side us in Korea, Vietnam and provide aid/support for both Iraqi wars and Afghanistan.

[simmode1]

There are 5 times as many conflicts in the first 20 years of the 21st century as there was inn the 20th and 25x as man people have died as a result of conflict.

The world is farther from peace then it has ever been. The statistics of the 20th century are beyond numbing.

We've only had 10 years in the 21st century so far. Do you mean to say 2000 to 2010 saw more global conflict than 1900 to 1920?

[Corbic]

We've only had 10 years in the 21st century so far. Do you mean to say 2000 to 2010 saw more global conflict than 1900 to 1920?

Type-O, First 10 years of both centuries. At the dawn of the 20th century, it was "common knowledge" that science and civility of modern industrial man would bring about unparalleled peace and prosperity.

It brought the bloodiest 100 years of human existence and depraved savagery the mankind has ever seen.

[Daniel.]

60% of the time, they will attack every time.

[Rockda240]

South Korea FTW!

[VROOOM]

60% of the time, they will attack every time.

they must wear Sex Panther.

[Daniel.]

Their nostrils also sting.

[Gnnr]

NONE

NONE of the news stations are even covering this right now. lol, wtf!?

They're all discussing some different topics at length.

CNN just brushed it over in a nonchalant fashion and moved on to something else.

Either this is nothing more than a scuffle or the news only cares about Sarah Palin's latest moose hunt. lol.

[Corbic]

NONE

NONE of the news stations are even covering this right now. lol, wtf!?

They're all discussing some different topics at length.

CNN just brushed it over in a nonchalant fashion and moved on to something else.

Either this is nothing more than a scuffle or the news only cares about Sarah Palin's latest moose hunt. lol.

Worse yet, what if they are enacting responsibility (for once) and are trying not to fan the flames.

[HalveBlue]

This isn't all that uncommon.

Fires have been exchanged sporadically across the DMZ since the armistice was signed in '53.

North Korea would've ceased to exist long ago if the Chinese hadn't continued to prop up the regime in the form of military and economic aid.

If anybody ever really wanted to solve the "Korean Question" they'd address the proverbial elephant in the room: China.

But hey, we need cheap shit and the Chinese have us by the balls, so whatever.

[simmode1]

If anybody ever really wanted to solve the "Korean Question" they'd address the proverbial elephant in the room: China.
Yeah, but for dude, you know noboby wants to deal with that shit right now...


But hey, we need cheap shit and the Chinese have us by the balls, so whatever.
Preeeeecisely. But thanks to the brave suicide victims who martyred themselves for labor reform at the Chinese Apple plant, the price of labor in China is starting to increase & match the price of labor here. Companies are gonna stop wanting to paying to have shit shipped from China when they can have it made here... The balance of power will shift again soon.

[tricky_ab]

This will be settled in a best of 4

Starcraft, Maplestory, ragnarok and WOW.

I don't know what's worst. Me laughing at this statement or the fact that I know what you're talking about...

[ronmcdon]

This is probably Kim Jong ILL attempt at attention whoring again.
Most likely because obama ignored him for the most part in that Asian trip of his.
It's not like shit like this hasn't happened before.
It's probably not going to escalate too much further because it's not in Chinas economic interest to do so.

A real war with North Korea would probably not be in anyones best interest really.
Would be interesting to see the us invade north Korea however.

[ronmcdon]

Yeah, but for dude, you know noboby wants to deal with that shit right now...


Preeeeecisely. But thanks to the brave suicide victims who martyred themselves for labor reform at the Chinese Apple plant, the price of labor in China is starting to increase & match the price of labor here. Companies are gonna stop wanting to paying to have shit shipped from China when they can have it made here... The balance of power will shift again soon.

Labor will probably move to the next cheapest place.
Doubtful that will be the USA anytime soon.

[simmode1]

Labor will probably move to the next cheapest place.
Doubtful that will be the USA anytime soon.
That would probably be Mexico. But I hear they don't have a big enough workforce for our needs. Possibly India.

This is probably Kim Jong ILL attempt at attention whoring again.
I'm wondering how much of this has anything to do with his youngest son being promoted to 4 Star General and named successor to the dictatorship about 2 months ago?

[WanganRunner]

I doubt it. North Korea =/ Iraq. It would be a full on Division on Division war comparable to what we saw in WWII and Korea. The NK Army is not a push over third rate military, and the terrain is nightmarish.

No it won't. You'll never see that kind of warfare ever again. You can't move formations of that size in open combat when someone or other has clear air superiority (which would be decided within days, most likely).

At any rate, it won't escalate there. No one wants a nuclear exchange, the North is just rattling sabers. This is a negotiation tactic, albeit a bizarre and probably ineffective one.

We will see military coup d'etat in the DPRK before we see open warfare.

[driftsilvias13]

How can a country like North Korea still exist now? Shit is so bad over there. They are trying to become a threat to the world yet we(people of the world) just sit around and do nothing? I say the world just needs to create a group of elite solders to invade North Korea and take it over. The longer we wait, the worse it will get.

[sw20>>s14]

Preeeeecisely. But thanks to the brave suicide victims who martyred themselves for labor reform at the Chinese Apple plant, the price of labor in China is starting to increase & match the price of labor here. Companies are gonna stop wanting to paying to have shit shipped from China when they can have it made here... The balance of power will shift again soon.

not with all the debt we owe them and monetary control they have over the US...

[CrOW]

attacking each other? what kinda bullshit is this

[Seraphim38]

North Korea takes "saber-rattling" to a whole new level. I think they should be punished, but that's just me. Life is too short and the world is too small for that kind of behavior.

[udon!]

How can a country like North Korea still exist now? Shit is so bad over there. They are trying to become a threat to the world yet we(people of the world) just sit around and do nothing? I say the world just needs to create a group of elite solders to invade North Korea and take it over. The longer we wait, the worse it will get.

If we could gather some good, strong, christain American Men WE OURSELVES, AS AMERICANS, would be able to take over kroera as long as we have christ on our sides.

[NismoDriverS13]

didn't communism die a long time ago?? cause no one told me.

im russian but seriously i think it's pathetic not to move on to something new.

Communism...So 19th century!

[ronmcdon]

That would probably be Mexico. But I hear they don't have a big enough workforce for our needs. Possibly India.


I'm wondering how much of this has anything to do with his youngest son being promoted to 4 Star General and named successor to the dictatorship about 2 months ago?

I don't think anything is different.
Kim is a despot and predictably acts like one.
His health appears to be failing, and accordingly he names his son to be successor.
That's not a surprising decision at all IMO.

The only intesting question is what the USA and China are going to do about it.
North Korea is just a buffer state and puppet to China IMO.
Realistically China probably doesn't want to go war with the US, at least not yet.
It might be a good time for the US to flex it's muscle however and show the Chinese who's boss.

[ronmcdon]

didn't communism die a long time ago?? cause no one told me.

im russian but seriously i think it's pathetic not to move on to something new.

Communism...So 19th century!

North Korea is really more about despotism, monarchy even.
Other than that, it's just politics between US and China.
Something that's arguably not in the best of terms right now.

[SimpleS14]

Send in the top special black ops team with all the latest military gadjets and hunt that psycho dictator down. Precision air strike the building hes in and level the whole block. I personally like ATTs old motto "Reach out and touch some one" with a high caliber long range rifle .Just have to get close enough to him and set up a shot.Bet that mofo has loads of security so that could be a big prob.Stick to my first idead ,yeah level the block with a Moab or 2000 lb JDAM. Forget watever political back lash we will get from the rest of the world. Never mind , shit forgot Obama is our Pres. Thought the guy from Texas was still running things.


That's actually a phase performed if the covert operations of staging a coup or buying out loyalty (for an inside attack) don't work.

I'm wondering how much of this has anything to do with his youngest son being promoted to 4 Star General and named successor to the dictatorship about 2 months ago?

I wonder the same thing too. Power trip probably?

It might be a good time for the US to flex it's muscle however and show the Chinese who's boss.

Not to keen on this happening. However, IMO, if the opportunity arrived where such a move would boast the president's support from Congress and "The People"....it would be almost certain something would go down.

[uLmighty]

i heard CHINA is siding with N. KOREA?! im scared of CHINA goin to war! =[

[sw20>>s14]

If we could gather some good, strong, christain American Men WE OURSELVES, AS AMERICANS, would be able to take over kroera as long as we have christ on our sides.

this ended the thread for me......

[SimpleS14]

this ended the thread for me......

I don't know if that person was being serious or sarcastic...

[4DOOR_LIFE]

im scared of CHINA goin to war! =[

2015 it begins

[ronmcdon]

That's actually a phase performed if the covert operations of staging a coup or buying out loyalty (for an inside attack) don't work.



I wonder the same thing too. Power trip probably?



Not to keen on this happening. However, IMO, if the opportunity arrived where such a move would boast the president's support from Congress and "The People"....it would be almost certain something would go down.

I think it probably would have the support of the US ppl.
In general, china isn't seen as a positive light by the US public.
It's not unthinkable to blame them, in good part for our own economic problems now.
You just need an excuse to go to war, and this could be it.
(not that I advocate this, but its an entirely plausible scenario IMO)

[ronmcdon]

I don't know if that person was being serious or sarcastic...

He's probably giving it the Landover Baptist Church treatment.
Generally doesn't work too well in this forum.
Ppl often take it seriously.
I can appreciate the humor in limited dosage.

[nismobenzo]

That would probably be Mexico. But I hear they don't have a big enough workforce for our needs. Possibly India.


I'm wondering how much of this has anything to do with his youngest son being promoted to 4 Star General and named successor to the dictatorship about 2 months ago?

:bowrofl:
nismo mrs cleo??

[maxtrbo93]

If we could gather some good, strong, christain American Men WE OURSELVES, AS AMERICANS, would be able to take over kroera as long as we have christ on our sides.

at first i was like...http://www.blogsmithcdn.com/avatar/images/11/2002956_50.jpg



then i was like...http://i47.tinypic.com/mc6b11.jpg



......and then i was like.....http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uzVZA7KHnGA/TI44DjHisoI/AAAAAAAABVM/eRMWUKM4RRo/s1600/pope_face_palm.jpg

[ESmorz]

this ended the thread for me......

I don't know if that person was being serious or sarcastic...

at first i was like..


then i was like...




Internet > You

[ayuaddict]

Koreans are such attention whores.

An idea of what the "good koreans" think of the situation:

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/eatzp/any_south_korean_redditors_around_that_can_tell/

[SimpleS14]

I think it probably would have the support of the US ppl.
In general, china isn't seen as a positive light by the US public.
It's not unthinkable to blame them, in good part for our own economic problems now.
You just need an excuse to go to war, and this could be it.
(not that I advocate this, but its an entirely plausible scenario IMO)


Why is China put into a negative light? Sure they purposely devalue their currency (IMO) and buy up U.S. debt/assets...but can you blame them for scheming?

War does bring in money...just not into the right pockets....

[sw20>>s14]

Internet > You

id be happy with that any damn day

[ronmcdon]

Why is China put into a negative light? Sure they purposely devalue their currency (IMO) and buy up U.S. debt/assets...but can you blame them for scheming?

War does bring in money...just not into the right pockets....

My impression is that overall China doesn't have a good reputation among Americans.
(whether that's actually the case is certainly debate-able)
Off-shoring of jobs, esp in the manufacturing sector would probably be one of the main concerns.
I personally don't have a lot of faith in the US getting back manufacturing jobs anytime soon, with or without China.
I have nothing against them here.

I also have no problem with China or anyone else devaluing their currency, based on my understanding of the situation.
Even the US does this, although it's just a matter of printing more $$$.
Whether or not they buy up our debt is a good or bad thing for the US is something I haven't decided yet.
If it serves to drive up the value of the dollar, then I'm more inclined to support it.
I think the US should consider improving the trade deficit to it's favor, through other means other than devaluing the dollar.

[Silviaracer1988]

If we could gather some good, strong, christain American Men WE OURSELVES, AS AMERICANS, would be able to take over kroera as long as we have christ on our sides.


so jews cant fight? muslims cant fight? dont get me wrong i love my country as well as leaving for basic to Fort Jackson in April, but if im not christian then i cant protect the country i love and want to fight for?

plus we as americans dont need to take over their country. its not ours to take, thats why we have men and women training the soldiers there to protect themselves as well as they come here to learn too.

[ayuaddict]

Scientologists definitely cannot fight.

[BOROSUN]

zh1nUaSd-OI

[redline racer510]

I have a question. How come its ok for the US to invade Iraq on grounds that we have "intel" that they have WMD's and end up not finding any. But it is ok for N. Korea to build nuclear centrifuges and in some sense say, hey we got resources and know-how and we probably have nukes already but we will never tell. Does any one else see the problem with this situation? How come this isn't being treated with the same urgency as we did in Iraq or is it that the U.S. has some other agenda. N. Korea has already displayed that they don't give a rats ass about what everyone else thinks. either they are A) incredibly stupid or B)they really have something to back them up i.e nukes, I choose option B

[ronmcdon]

Well, N Korea is backed by China
(do some research on the Korean war of the 1950's, fun stuff).

Iraq is not really backed by anyone.
It's actually Bush & the neo-cons who were incredible stupid,
using an excuse that was easily proven wrong; wmd,
Bush (like some presidents before him) should have used 'violation of human rights' to go to war.

China is just playing games with the US,
testing how far they can push without repercussions imo.

That's my guess, not claiming to be an expert by any means.

[soreballz]

How come this isn't being treated with the same urgency as we did in Iraq or is it that the U.S. has some other agenda?
Simply put, the US can't bully a powerful country such a North Korea. Plus, they don't have oil.

[510-SR20DET]

Relax guys, it's just another deliberate N Korean provocation. It happens from time to time unfortunately.

[redline racer510]

ronmcdon your post makes alot of sense every war america has been through or has backed was against a nation that had very little strategic war power and even less support i.e. afghan,iraq. How bout we buy chinese goods and sell it back to them lol. IMHO this is some pretty scary stuff, the fact that the U.S. and other supportive countries dont have the balls to do anything shows who has military superiority.

[cnile51]

I have a question. How come its ok for the US to invade Iraq on grounds that we have "intel" that they have WMD's and end up not finding any. But it is ok for N. Korea to build nuclear centrifuges and in some sense say, hey we got resources and know-how and we probably have nukes already but we will never tell. Does any one else see the problem with this situation? How come this isn't being treated with the same urgency as we did in Iraq or is it that the U.S. has some other agenda. N. Korea has already displayed that they don't give a rats ass about what everyone else thinks. either they are A) incredibly stupid or B)they really have something to back them up i.e nukes, I choose option B


Easy answer here; there's no interest for us to invade N.K.

They don't have oil like Iraq does.

Same thing applies to other countries; atrocities that are committed in places like Rwanda go unnoticed and go on for years. If there was a genocide happening in another country where there may be some type of gain for us we would be knocking on their doors or better yet kicking it down.

No one cares about certain countries because there IS NO INTEREST for us to go in and do anything about it if there is no gain.

I can look at it from our perspective and say well why should we go in if there's no benefit for us?

And I agree that we should get something out of it.

What I don't agree with is the fact that we cover shit up as if we are going in for humanity's sake and just trying to keep everyone civil.

But then if we did tell the truth the PETA type war fanatics would have an outcry and we'd still be pissing off a certain group.

War is lose lose any which way you look at it.

The only good thing that comes from it is that it creates employment in some cases.

/Rant

[Corbic]

Easy answer here; there's no interest for us to invade N.K.

They don't have oil like Iraq does.

Same thing applies to other countries; atrocities that are committed in places like Rwanda go unnoticed and go on for years. If there was a genocide happening in another country where there may be some type of gain for us we would be knocking on their doors or better yet kicking it down.

No one cares about certain countries because there IS NO INTEREST for us to go in and do anything about it if there is no gain.

I can look at it from our perspective and say well why should we go in if there's no benefit for us?

And I agree that we should get something out of it.

What I don't agree with is the fact that we cover shit up as if we are going in for humanity's sake and just trying to keep everyone civil.

But then if we did tell the truth the PETA type war fanatics would have an outcry and we'd still be pissing off a certain group.

War is lose lose any which way you look at it.

The only good thing that comes from it is that it creates employment in some cases.

/Rant

What a stupid ignorant rant.

[ESmorz]

Easy answer here; there's no interest for us to invade N.K.

They don't have oil like Iraq does.

Same thing applies to other countries; atrocities that are committed in places like Rwanda go unnoticed and go on for years. If there was a genocide happening in another country where there may be some type of gain for us we would be knocking on their doors or better yet kicking it down.

No one cares about certain countries because there IS NO INTEREST for us to go in and do anything about it if there is no gain.

I can look at it from our perspective and say well why should we go in if there's no benefit for us?

And I agree that we should get something out of it.

What I don't agree with is the fact that we cover shit up as if we are going in for humanity's sake and just trying to keep everyone civil.

But then if we did tell the truth the PETA type war fanatics would have an outcry and we'd still be pissing off a certain group.

War is lose lose any which way you look at it.

The only good thing that comes from it is that it creates employment in some cases.

/Rant

AMERICA

:duh:

[HalveBlue]

What a stupid ignorant rant.

Care to extrapolate?