ate a curb, bent something

[benarovi]

ok so i ate the shit outta curb the other night. jacked it up saw nothing. looked liek the control arm was bent. swapped them. the wheel still sits back. thers nothing that loooks bent. so did i bend the crossmember and now i gotta swap them? some dude ona local forum said i can get adjustable tension rods(so u can adjust the caster or whatever the fuck that shits called how the wheel forward or back) or should i get a new crossmember? crossmember is a fucking whore to take out its gonna be a huge pain... anybody had this situation chime in or anybody to help chime in.

[STEEZxIT]

Cross-member consist of 8 bolts, and they're not hard to get too..

I say get cross-member if thats the culprit, no matter what kind of adj shit you have on the bent cross-member, its still not gonna ride the same.

[az_240]

Same thing happened on my car and I have yet to figure it out. I will be swapping the crossmember soon to see if that's it since it did get slightly bent.

Check the tension rod bracket and any welds in that area. Check that it didnt get knocked loose at the bolts.

Adjusting an adjustable tension rod on the one side will only band-aid the problem. You might have funky handling if you go this route.

Good luck.

[benarovi]

Cross-member consist of 8 bolts, and they're not hard to get too..

I say get cross-member if thats the culprit, no matter what kind of adj shit you have on the bent cross-member, its still not gonna ride the same.
dont you ahve to take the hole steering rack off and shit? and the engine mounts?

[STEEZxIT]

yea, you jst have to unbolt those and use a jackstands to keep em steady untill you put in the new one.

[510-SR20DET]

picture(s) would help.

[az_240]

Even pics will be hard to determine what is wrong unless you have a professional lift so you can get a good pic of everything.

If you can't find any visible bends or anything wrong the next best thing to do would be to get a big ruler and start taking measurements. There are specs for that in the FSM.

Taking the crossmember out really isnt that bad... some people have removed it with the power steering rack still hooked up. You just need to find a safe way to hold the engine up while the crossmember is being swapped. Also check your oil pan for leaks since that is a good time to get that taken care of.

[Sileighty_85]

Im sure since you bent the LCA that you also fucked up your lower Core support and the tension rod bracket seeing that the tension rod is connected to the LCA

you should look at all the bolts that connect everything, cuz im sure you ripped the mounting holes open for anything that bolt to the frame

[az_240]

I have extra tension rod brackets in good shape if you need them... PM me if you do.

Radiator support should be easy to tell if it's damaged. The welds would be popped in the lower corner areas or may look bent when looking at it from the side.

[93nismo]

Even pics will be hard to determine what is wrong unless you have a professional lift so you can get a good pic of everything.

If you can't find any visible bends or anything wrong the next best thing to do would be to get a big ruler and start taking measurements. There are specs for that in the FSM.

its easier to take measurements if you get a tape measure and use some snips to cut the tip to a point so you can stick the tip in the hole it will tell you to measure from. remember theres usually about a 3mm tolerance or so.

[benarovi]

Im sure since you bent the LCA that you also fucked up your lower Core support and the tension rod bracket seeing that the tension rod is connected to the LCA

you should look at all the bolts that connect everything, cuz im sure you ripped the mounting holes open for anything that bolt to the frame
i jsut replaced the lca it was fine. the tension rod bushing got all ripped up...

[JAYTRON]

Double check your sway bar and it's links, if those are even slightly bent they make a huge difference.

[stuckonfresh]

I hit a curb too once upon a time I think it was the A arm link and tie bar rod or something? I wish I could help you out. Maybe I 'll do some research :]

[AnotherZenkiKid]

i hit a curb once as well and tie rod and a tension rod and had to get my joint replaced then get it re aligned,

[Irresistible]

I hit a curb and I only bent my tie rod and LCA, I guss I'm lucky, cus I replaced those two, and it's all good now.

[.getexcite]

I hit a curb once, resulted in a bent LCA and TC Rod. Hopefully it's not your frame, because if the hit was hard enough to bend the crossmember, the frame may have went with it...

[Bushido]

i hit a curb once...

replaced the tension rod. got it aligned.

CROOKED.

replaced the LCA.

CROOKED STILL!

[doomviillain]

damn, whats with everyone hitting curbs?

Take it to a local shop and get it inspected, take pics while its up on the lift and post so it can be easier to try and point out what the problem is

[Corbic]

At least you didn't hit a fents or brush. How are the brix?

[axiomatik]

I hit a curb too once upon a time I think it was the A arm link and tie bar rod or something? I wish I could help you out. Maybe I 'll do some research :]

what in the world are you talking about?

At least you didn't hit a fents or brush. How are the brix?

what is a 'fents'?

[Bushido]

it's something you dont wanna hit, like a crub.

[nathanong87]

fents. lol...

[benarovi]

At least you didn't hit a fents or brush. How are the brix?
whats a brix?

[benarovi]

im goin to te j yard gonna get a tension rod see if that helps

[Corbic]

whats a brix?

Before you where born...

ok heres the ting take a corner at 35 or 45racing a ricer a blow out sled into the crub hit 2 fents 2 burshes 4 brix and a trash can but anywho now I have a load cam knock it sounds like but I'm not sure my oil pan may have got pushed back alittle so I dont know if my oil pump got damgaed and itsn't get oil to the top of the cams does anyone have any ideas what else it could be and yea I spanked the little rice hatch back

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1585548

[benarovi]

ok so the tension rod bushing was fuked i got a good tension rod from the j yard and i noticed i have to move the hole arm back to put the tension rod in place on the lca(the two bolts) so is the tension rod braket bent? and i bent my frame too. the top where it goes form the headlight braket to the strut tower that bar is bent up. and under next to the tow hook its bent up... gonna try and fix it with my friends truck hehe

[az_240]

^You tell us if it's bent... Take them both off and compare.
I would not recommend the truck idea since you'll probably pull some pinch welds apart if you're not careful but hey it's your car...

[Max_PSi]

The wheel is still bent in? Like negative camber?

Did you check the shock towers?

The point where your suspension bolts up to your hub?

Your ball joint?

[benarovi]

The wheel is still bent in? Like negative camber?

Did you check the shock towers?

The point where your suspension bolts up to your hub?

Your ball joint?
no like it sits back. closer to the door. and the ball joints good. i swapped lca's. first thing i did.

[93nismo]

gonna try and fix it with my friends truck hehe


if its bent up how do you plan on pulling it down with a truck? lol insurance is probably gunna say its totaled. so if i were you id find a nice shop with a frame rack and pull all the front end(bumper, fender, hood) off yourself and see how much they would charge to pull it. or have the insurance people total it and take the cash. or just drive it. pulling it with a truck is definitely not the best idea.

[Sileighty_85]

dude if your shit looks like this
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Misc/VFSH2138.jpg

Then you fucked up alot more things than just a lower control arm

[benarovi]

nah its not as bad as that^^ and im gettin a tension rod bracket tommorow from the j yard if that doesnt work ima just get adjustable tension rods

[chiboy002]

hopefully your tow hook didn't catch the curb...

[Irresistible]

dude if your shit looks like this
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Misc/VFSH2138.jpg

Then you fucked up alot more things than just a lower control arm

My shit looked like that and it's fine now that I replaced the tie rod and LCA. :D

[Sileighty_85]

The pic I posted, This guy bent the LCA, strut, where the LCA bolts to crossmember, pulled the bolts thru the Tension rod bracket which pulled the lower core support back 2-3 inches.
fucked his shit up pretty bad

[Irresistible]

I just crushed my LCA like a soda can, and bent my tie rod @ 90 degrees. Replaced that crap, and looks fine, tension rod bolted up with no problems so that isn't bent, and luckily my coil just moved backwards a little, and didn't break. Stance<3

[dawagarage]

when i hit a curb, it was my tie rod that gave, check that

[benarovi]

ok ima change it today. yesteerday i changed the tension rod bracket. the old one WAS bent. but after the new one, it still sits back wtf. so far i changed lca, tension rod, tension rod bracket. ill change the tie rod today. and ima try and pull the frame today

[Irresistible]

Some pics of your damage, would honestly help with telling what's broken....

[benarovi]

pics you cant notice really just picture the wheel back a little. ok i replaced the tie rod and it helped. but the wheel still sits a little back. a lot better now though. ima pull the frame today.

[jigga1boy]

I had this situation happen to me one time...

I ate a curb, then a tire blew and tie rod snapped.


I drove home for 15 miles going 10mph with a broken tie..

took it to the shop the next day, replaced tie.....

wheel was sitting about 3 inches behind. we made adjustments....

still 3 inches behind.....

took it to 5 shops.... even the 240 shops couldn't figure it out...

last resort was me just selling the shit HAHAHA