taped up drag cars

[GunmetalSR]

ok so i was just curious ive seen cars(mostly hondas) with all the body seams taped up for aero dynamics but my question is how effective can that really be like does anyone hav hard evidence like before and after drag times of how much difference does it make
and before someone aggrivates me no im not thinkin about taping up my s14 to be quicker its just a question so keep bs outta my thread or i rapes u with a pogo stick

[$nicklefritz]

i need a good laugh got any pics ???

[GunmetalSR]

i need a good laugh got any pics ???
rofl no pics but a video and yea shit does look epicly hilarious
YouTube - Nyce1s Grudge - 718 Turbo Civic VS Midnight Auto CF Civic @ E-Town!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO4ic025fmo)
by the way video is kinda funny bc its 2 eg hatches and one all full race and the other one is street prepped with slicks(i know theres more to it but just the way it looks is street prepped) but the fukk race prepped one gets spanked lol

[S14DB]

It does work. Comes from airplane/sailplane racing where they tape the seams with a polyethylene tape and have teflon insets in the control surface gaps. Reduces interference drag.

Bonneville salt flat racers were the first ones to use it in the automotive world. MPG addicts are using it to increase their MPG.

I have seen it start to trickle into drag racing. I have to think gains would be minimal in such a short distance. But, winning can be tenths in competitive fields.

Edit: just watched the video. They really could have done a cleaner job on those tape lines.

[$nicklefritz]

i dont get why they would tape all the seams up only to leave the headlight out , kinna defats the point , save trees ....invest in a fiber glass one piece facia

[murda-c]

i dont get why they would tape all the seams up only to leave the headlight out , kinna defats the point , save trees ....invest in a fiber glass one piece facia

maybe it's hitting an oil cooler or something.

[$nicklefritz]

nah if its boosted its theres prob a big nasty turb behind the headlight ..
still defeats the point of streamlining yur car

[S14DB]

nah if its boosted its theres prob a big nasty turb behind the headlight ..
still defeats the point of streamlining yur car

The turbo intake is that big chrome ring in the bumper.

The tape around that headlight duct and the cornerlight is all wrinkled and has gaps. reducing it's effectiveness over non taped.

[ripnbst]

I agree that taping is going to yield such minimal gains its not worth it for how stupid you look. And the margin of victory in that race makes it obvious tape had nothing to do with it haha.

[HPKMotorsports3]

guy had slow ass reaction times...

[$nicklefritz]

lol ^ tru dat

[godrifttoday]

It does not matter if they feel it works. Well so be it. Makes them happy. I realized that in anything we do in life, if their is someone to have a logical explanation of a matter, the majority of people would believe it's true... When in fact it may not be....

[datsunnazi]

LOOKS freaking retarded...

[GunmetalSR]

yea im mean i know it makes a difference but how much of a difference was the question i mean yea i as well wouldnt think it to make that much of a difference in the 1320

[MavericStephenc]

I can't comment on it's looks because I think it looks stupid too. However being in Aviation, I can tell you that less open seams/ exposed rivets or bolts will reduce drag. Wether or not that reduction is major or otherwise can only be gauged in a wind tunnel.


Personally..... on our cars unless we are getting up to 150+ I don't think the effects would be worth it or even measurable without computer.

[wh0aitznic0]

LOL North Jersey honda crews...

90% of those cars are built with stolen parts. Probably stole the tape too.

[GunmetalSR]

LOL North Jersey honda crews...

90% of those cars are built with stolen parts. Probably stole the tape too.
holy shit hahahahaha roflmfao

[mr_eh]

they'd be better off fiberglassing the whole front end and making it a removable clip... as far as the tape, eh, i guess. doesnt hurt anything

[murda-c]

guy had slow ass reaction times...

It was on purpose.

[Mangudai]

LOL North Jersey honda crews...

90% of those cars are built with stolen parts. Probably stole the tape too.


I lol'ed. Sounds like Florida.

[Flicktitty]

i know alot of standing mile guy's tape up there cars,
i think it would be neat to try and run a car with it normal, then tape it up and see if it actually goes any faster. but i agree unless your car is really moving i dont see it helping THAT much.

i know my buddy did that with his 78 Malibu cause nothing really lined up that well.

[Daggering]

It's A Honda Thing....
They Have A Whole Thread On Taped Up Car's
Pictures of your car taped up! :) - Page 19 - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum (http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/introduction-pictures/161256-pictures-your-car-taped-up-19.html)

[whiterps13]

It's A Honda Thing....
They Have A Whole Thread On Taped Up Car's
Pictures of your car taped up! :) - Page 19 - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum (http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/introduction-pictures/161256-pictures-your-car-taped-up-19.html)

AAAAnd you're wrong.
People tape their cars like that when going on road trips to eliminate rock chips, bugs, road grime, etc. Its not just a Honda thing.

Writing stupid shit with the tape and making designs and shit is dumb. If you have a true show car that needs to be driven cleanly to a destination it makes sense.

[Sterlz]

Yeah both of those civics from that video are from up here in NY. the honda boys out here are crazy, stealing parts, stealing cars, street racing on expressways, smh. some of them do manage to get their cars going pretty fast though.

they'd be better off fiberglassing the whole front end and making it a removable clip... as far as the tape, eh, i guess. doesnt hurt anything


this would work best. you only see the really serious shops doing that sorta thing lol

[dsastr_clan]

this is shit works, there is an episode of Top Gear where they are in the salt flats in utah they taped up the front of a car as an advise from one of the locals and it did improve the top speed.

[soreballz]

I've never seen drag cars with taped body seams, but I remember seeing an article in a Mustang magazine a loooong time ago... They tested the base lap times in a track-prepped fox mustang, then taped all the body seams and retested. They lap times did improve. Not by a whole lot, but still, faster is faster.

[Daggering]

AAAAnd you're wrong.
People tape their cars like that when going on road trips to eliminate rock chips, bugs, road grime, etc. Its not just a Honda thing.

Writing stupid shit with the tape and making designs and shit is dumb. If you have a true show car that needs to be driven cleanly to a destination it makes sense.

Not here in NY, Every-one's doing it with there car's and most of the people that are doing it are Honda owner's

And another thing cant a rock chip go threw the tape??

[Walperstyle]

This thread is a direct relation to body kits. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't.

[axiomatik]

Those civic didn't gain anything with the tape, the tape jobs are way too messy to benefit. The purpose is to smooth out the body lines. But if you are sloppy and wrinkle and fold your tape, you are probably making it worse. Also, taping the back hatch does nothing, as there is no high-speed airflow over those seams, it is a giant low-pressure area and taping just adds weight.

That said, it can provide some benefit at high speeds. Especially if you tape over large openings or concave shapes on the front end.

[ILoveJDM]

top gear -> when they take the cars to the salt flats and gain extra MPH

[NINJASPY]

safety could be it too, drag at high speeds can do crazy things to a car.

[iamtheyi]

top gear -> when they take the cars to the salt flats and gain extra MPH

lol obviously you didn't finish the episode. Hammond ripped it off because it was overheating his car and THEN he hit his top speed.

[slow40sx]

this thread blows dick.... in a bad way

[Slammed180]

lol obviously you didn't finish the episode. Hammond ripped it off because it was overheating his car and THEN he hit his top speed.

They did it at the Nurburgring too. When Sabine was attempting to lap a Ford transit van under 10 min. Hard to say if it worked, because they also removed a ton of weight from the van for the next lap.

[Z_Spool]

I'm planning on taping the crap out of my car when I make the drive from CA to CO but that's only because it'll have a shiny new paint job on it. If I get better gas mileage by taping the seams, great but I'm not placing all my hopes on it. As has been stated, something having such a small effect on aerodynamics really wouldn't be measureable until high (illegally so) speeds I would think.

[ericcastro]

Im sure it makes some difference on a small level.

Areodynamics work.
Its just good science.

lol

Reminded me of this.
Honda civic getting 90mpg with just areodynamic mods.
Its ugly as sin, but shows what can be done with changing the airflow.
Aerocivic - how to drop your Cd from 0.31 to 0.17 - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com (http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/aerocivic-how-drop-your-cd-0-31-0-a-290.html)

So maybe minimal, but taping seems prolly works.
(but the change may be so minimal that removing the change from the ashtray is mroe effective, lol)

[Corbic]

Nuf said

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/203_EG6/IMG_1971.jpg

[murda-c]

Nuf said



why not get wider tape?

[Corbic]

why not get wider tape?

Not a clue... check the link, pure insanity. Looks like the guy I posted is freaking using masking/packaging tape. :down:

[h2v7]

so no one with a 240 has been stupid enough to do this right


looks like a 8th gen honda thing only thank gosh

[Corbic]

so no one with a 240 has been stupid enough to do this right


looks like a 8th gen honda thing only thank gosh

No, its very common with show cars, VWs, BMWs and Audi's. They have been doing it for at least 10 years. However, none of them do it to "show off" or be "creative" about it. Its pure function for them. (Nor do they use as much tape either.


I've also seen track cars use it to cover the headlights out west.

[SuperiorS14]

some of you guys are sooo ignorant and lame..... what is this forum coming to? you talk shit about hondas but some of you guys might as well just go over to honda-tech. yes it servers a purpose and yes it works. bet you guys think its cool now that a gtr is all taped up.....


http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/April2010/boostlogic/IMG_1120.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/April2010/boostlogic/IMG_1122.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/April2010/boostlogic/IMG_1147.jpg

[soreballz]

bet you guys think its cool now that a gtr is all taped up.....

Nope, still LOOKS lame as fuck. But, if it has a function for performance, great. On that GTR, they're taping seams for a good reason.
You see, nobody is bashing the use of tape for performance purposes. The problem is the ricers (mostly Honda owners at the moment, but we all know how quickly these things spread to the 240 world) who do it just for shits and giggles. Not to protect their expensive paint jobs on road trips, not to seal seams for less drag, but just doing it for the sake of doing it. Shit's weak.

[h2v7]

im bout to do that checkerboard painters tape on my hood it will be the illest!

[axiomatik]

that GTR is still doing a sloppy job of it with creases all over the place. It kind of defeats the purpose if you cover up seams with ridges. And is he using duct tape? good luck getting that residue off.

[Z_Spool]

Seriously, even gaffers tape is going to leave a nice white residue behind. I guess when you can afford to track a brand new GT-R you can afford to not care about keeping the paint pristine.

[s2kguy17]

I have seen alot of hoods fly up on the dragstrips and that could be one of the reasons as well..dunno

[smelly240]

In many classes one peice fronts are prohibited...

[CamryOnBronze]

And is he using duct tape? good luck getting that residue off.

Yeah dude, that is going to majorly eff his paint up, haha.

[Corbic]

Yeah dude, that is going to majorly eff his paint up, haha.

Meh, excuse to respray it. Stock paint on modern Nissans blows big time. Super easy to chip and a Black GTR I looked at on the show room floor was an orange peal monster.

[CamryOnBronze]

haha, for sure. I used some duct tape to hold a tarp over my car while I had the hatch repainted last spring. That was a massive fail...