SPL products ... any good?

[formeRiceR]

anyone have experience with these products?

[s14slide]

yeah, I'm wondering the same thing here. I was thinking the fender braces and their t/c rods, but I want to know how good their product is before I buy anything. $140 for t/c rods is great IMO, but quality of first and foremost. Anybody ever get anything??

[Dousan_PG]

YES!!
excellent and high quality!
they used to carry lots of jdm brands (NAMS, KAZAMA, etc) but one day they dropped it and carried their own brand that is looking and SEEMS exactly same as the jdm ones they used to carry

put 2 and 2 together..what do you think. ;)

[s14slide]

WERD, glad to hear something good from someone who seems to have some experience w/ a bunch of different parts. Thanks Dous.
:werd:
:bigok:

[ca18guy]

VERY good quality. Have no fears ordering from them!

[TheSparo]

whats their site?

[weirdstyles.net]

is this teh same company that does all that f-body stuff


or is that SLP?

[Drift Style S14]

yeah i am also intrested, what is there website?

[kazuo]

SPL Parts (http://www.splparts.com)

word.

Thinking about ordering their rear upper arms, but I might just go with the KAZAMA ones...

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by kazuo

Thinking about ordering their rear upper arms, but I might just go with the KAZAMA ones...

dood! did you NOT just read what i said??

[Steeles]

I need the stubby traction bars.. I'll get getting SPls the price is good. then I really will have a christmasy suspension lol

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by dousan36
dood! did you NOT just read what i said??



d-ooooooooooooooooooooooooood

rotflmao.....

dousan, when r u going to check out me site?!

http://home.comcast.net/~Weird240Styles/Portfolio

no kiddies, that is NOT the link to SPL...a$$holes...

[kazuo]

Originally posted by dousan36
dood! did you NOT just read what i said??

yes i did, aaron-dood-san. :P

i dont know, i've just always had this thing for wanting KAZAMA parts since i first saw some of their stuff in one of those old *** Hyper REV editions... ;p

i was also kind of leaning towards getting the Battle Version Rear upper arms but i dont know... what would YOU do, aaron-dood-san? ;p

[Dousan_PG]

haha
no worries, just bustin' your balls man
i have Kazama ones..but i got them very cheap :)
and i had them when SPL was still carrying kazama parts


let me break it down for yaz

this is from SPL site, the rear upper arms, the 'flat' ones are same as NAMS

how do i know? because i've seen the ENTIRE NAMS s13 line in person. from lower rear a-arms to front lower control arms.

the upper and lower subframe bushings collars are very similar to the KAZAMA ones

the pro are every similar to the NAMS ones!

the tnesion rods are VERY similar to NAMS too. fyi, the NAMS tc rods ARE RIDICULOUSLY HUUUUUGE!




if i were you, ge the SPL stuff, its cheaper you DONT need the bling, because when it comes down to it, its all about quality. whether it be cusco, JIC, NAMS, or SPL, its all about quality. Kuah/SPL makes great stuff. i gotta order the Collar bushings myself still....ack...muuust save money.......

[kazuo]

word dude.

see, now you got me all peekin at SPL's site as well as Alex's (BattleVersion) site... now I'm just confused but at the very least I have decided to just go with a combo of SPL and BattleVersion parts.

anywho, the thing I am confused about is this: my suspension is totally stock with the exception of Eibach Sportline springs (2" drop) and TOKICO blues for shocks... I feel like I am having this horrible problem with bumpsteer - its like no matter where i drive, if i let go of the wheel for even a split-second, the car just starts following every little groove/line in the road, and it SUCKS... the car feels really floaty and I can't take my hands off the wheel for even one second or itll float off... I got it re-aligned several times. Camber/toe and all in the front is fine, last I checked the rear was off by almost -2. deg (-1.5 to be exact i think; the most they could adjust it was like 1/10 of a degree and it sits currently at about -2.6 or so, maybe closer to -3.. i forgot) and the toe is off by a good amount as well.

I was thinking about getting the RUA to fix the camber issues and maybe helping the drive, but then i was reading on SPL's site that the RUA alone will alter the geometry of the other rear links, which will just cause more bumpsteer. they recommend purchasing a rear traction arm and getting it all realigned at a shop.

my question is then, all i will need is the RUA and the traction arm, or should i just get a toe link also and get it over with? i am retarded when it comes to suspension. please teach me, aaronsan :P :bow:

seriously tho, i would like to hear your input and what you think. i value your opinion when it comes to chit like this so your input is appreciated dude. :)

word.

[formeRiceR]

someone should work on a group buy from the tension rods....;)

[Dousan_PG]

bumpsteer? its your toe being off.simple as that. if you still have it..you are amazing, i have very minimal bumpsteer w/ my setup. what areyour wheel offsets?

you can live w/o a toe arm, yeah more bumpsteer, but honestly NOT that much, unless you are crazy. im -4 degrees and ist a lot. bumpersteer...meh, i dont know. coilovefr so stiff but car is SOLID at higher speeds on and predictable/responsive at the track..front i have bumpsteer issues but very minimal in rear

i'd get the RUCA. you MUST get an alignment!!

im tired so i mssed someof your q..sorrry

[FRpilot]

NAMs has an entire line of suspension products? i thought they were just a small shop in japan who custom fabricated and mass produced those fender bars. do you have pics of their products in one of your many jdm magazines or have their website? i'll try to google it. what do i type in to search? NAMS? lol.

[kazuo]

the wheels are stock '91 SE Alloys (the 6 or seven or whatever spoke ones)... i dunno the offset offhand, but thats what the car's wearing. ;p

i am gonna get the RUA and get it aligned... pondering maybe getting the toe arm as well, we'll just have to see how budget works out...

that **** ****es me off though, makes driving on the freeway a PITA... word.

you gonna be at D1? mebbe you can take a look at the car then doodsan. ;p

Originally posted by dousan36
bumpsteer? its your toe being off.simple as that. if you still have it..you are amazing, i have very minimal bumpsteer w/ my setup. what areyour wheel offsets?

you can live w/o a toe arm, yeah more bumpsteer, but honestly NOT that much, unless you are crazy. im -4 degrees and ist a lot. bumpersteer...meh, i dont know. coilovefr so stiff but car is SOLID at higher speeds on and predictable/responsive at the track..front i have bumpsteer issues but very minimal in rear

i'd get the RUCA. you MUST get an alignment!!

im tired so i mssed someof your q..sorrry

[Dousan_PG]

yeah get alignment, stock wheels and shock/spring you SHOULD NOT have such handling..its definately toe. get it fixed before d1gp..toe KILLS tires fast


yep ill be there. look for me and ruf and dorifto and yesweproimse, itsybitsy, driftingpanda chillin out there..hahaha..

[kazuo]

ya, the shock/spring setup is not stock (Eibach Sportline/TOKICO) and its about a 2" drop... i assume the drop has a lot to do with the handling problems (since the drop messes everything else up).

im probably gonna get the RUA and the toe link later on, and get all that **** aligned... hopefully that'll solve my problems

if youve got any other advice lemme know dude, i will look for you @ D1 (will prolly be with some NorCal heads and some buddies)

Originally posted by dousan36
yeah get alignment, stock wheels and shock/spring you SHOULD NOT have such handling..its definately toe. get it fixed before d1gp..toe KILLS tires fast


yep ill be there. look for me and ruf and dorifto and yesweproimse, itsybitsy, driftingpanda chillin out there..hahaha..

[Dousan_PG]

you'll never find me at d1gp...haha
ill pm you my phone number, give me a call and we'll meet up, introduce folks to eachother and bs..maybe get some din din after..who knows..

[[email protected]]

Thanks for the recommendation Dousan :)

Just to clear things up, most tuners like Kazama do not manufacture their own parts in-house... they oursource their production to various "factories" in Japan (in some cases outside of Japan), but the same factory can offer nearly identical products to other shops. So you might have noticed, for example, that the Kazama tension rods look "very similar" to the URAS tension rods and our own SPL tension rods.

What I have done is to find the best "hookup" on good products, avoiding the "tuner markup". We rebadge them as "SPL" for 2 reasons: for one, the name of the shops/manufacturers we source through mean nothing to 99.9% of the enthusiasts in the USA; and it protects our sources :)

Originally posted by dousan36
haha
no worries, just bustin' your balls man
i have Kazama ones..but i got them very cheap :)
and i had them when SPL was still carrying kazama parts


let me break it down for yaz

this is from SPL site, the rear upper arms, the 'flat' ones are same as NAMS

how do i know? because i've seen the ENTIRE NAMS s13 line in person. from lower rear a-arms to front lower control arms.

the upper and lower subframe bushings collars are very similar to the KAZAMA ones

the pro are every similar to the NAMS ones!

the tnesion rods are VERY similar to NAMS too. fyi, the NAMS tc rods ARE RIDICULOUSLY HUUUUUGE!




if i were you, ge the SPL stuff, its cheaper you DONT need the bling, because when it comes down to it, its all about quality. whether it be cusco, JIC, NAMS, or SPL, its all about quality. Kuah/SPL makes great stuff. i gotta order the Collar bushings myself still....ack...muuust save money.......

[[email protected]]

If your toe is OK at stock ride height, and you are now dropping the ride height and extending our the upper arm to correct for rear camber, we recommend getting the traction rod ("upper toe arm") to adjust for toe rather than getting the toe arm ("lower toe arm").

This is because both the upper arm and the upper toe arm are connected to the upper part of the rear upright, but the lower toe arm is connected to the LOWER part of the rear upright. The toe changes that result from extending out the upper arm should be compensated for using the upper toe arm (traction rod). This maintains the geometry better in this case vs. using the lower toe arm.

If your toe is not OK at stock ride height, then you will need both the toe arm and traction rod to eliminate bumpsteer when you drop the suspension. But as Dousan pointed out, bumpsteer won't be very noticeable in this Nissan rear multilink, I wouldn't worry about it unless its a race car where every little bit counts. So in this case, most go with just the adjustable lower toe arm and that's OK.

Originally posted by kazuo
word dude.
I was thinking about getting the RUA to fix the camber issues and maybe helping the drive, but then i was reading on SPL's site that the RUA alone will alter the geometry of the other rear links, which will just cause more bumpsteer. they recommend purchasing a rear traction arm and getting it all realigned at a shop.

my question is then, all i will need is the RUA and the traction arm, or should i just get a toe link also and get it over with? i am retarded when it comes to suspension. please teach me, aaronsan :P :bow:
word.

[Dousan_PG]

woot kuah rocks! hahah
yep i know what you mean about in japan and suspension...cusco/section, and SO MANY coilovers are like that..hehehe

but im SO Happy to see US companies making parts that are of HIGH QUALITY (like some in japan) which makes me sooo happy. no crappy VIS stuff and so forth..

great stuff

just side note, my buddy nailed a rock in the mountains, the rear toe link saved him. the absorbed all the impacted...he had a Battle Version one..

his wheel hit the rock, the upright cracked and toe rod bent, but the wheel was perfect :) anyways...i need to get toe links too...one day one day..


kuah!!!! WE WANT ADJUSTABLE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS!!! THOSE ARE SICK!!!!

[[email protected]]

Thanks again :) ... but I can't take any credit for the quality of the parts, the only part we actually make in the USA are the solid subframe bushings, the rest are imported from Japan through our secret sources :) We tried to make some of the parts here in the USA, but surprisingly it would actually cost more to manufacture them here in the USA than in Japan...

We also source those front lower arms from Japan, but we had to modify them here, the design had a serious omission. The ones shown on the website are the ones we just finished for the Z32... the cost of buying them, then having to modify them again, is horrible. But we plan to offer less expensive alternatives, such as solid bearing/bushings that can be pressed into the stock arms...

Originally posted by dousan36
but im SO Happy to see US companies making parts that are of HIGH QUALITY (like some in japan) which makes me sooo happy. no crappy VIS stuff and so forth..

great stuff

just side note, my buddy nailed a rock in the mountains, the rear toe link saved him. the absorbed all the impacted...he had a Battle Version one..

his wheel hit the rock, the upright cracked and toe rod bent, but the wheel was perfect :) anyways...i need to get toe links too...one day one day..


kuah!!!! WE WANT ADJUSTABLE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS!!! THOSE ARE SICK!!!!

[Dousan_PG]

http://www.splparts.com/S13/Suspension/SPLFrontLowerArm.jpg

YES THATS WHAT IM TALKIN' ABOUT!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

if you release those ill have to seriously avoid the track to get them...uuuugh so nice!


ah cool cool.
yeah i know FLCA is $$$
my friend w/ a z32 wants them..he dies when he looks at your webpage haha

im just happy FLCA prices dropped drastically in japan in recent times..that's great. im thinking Ikeya Formula
i saw the NAMS one a couple of weekends ago. quality seems pretty good and i love the adjustabilty and such..but still, out of my 'range' as far as what else my car needs..anyways, keep up the great work!

[Steeles]

HOLY CRAP!!!!! those are NIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCEEEE!!!!!! damn.. yeah um... I want a set too! wow good stuff! cant wait till I can afford something like that! lol

[projectRDM]

www.nagisa-auto.com. Juicyness.

[formeRiceR]

hey [email protected] I was wonderin you think we could doa group buy for those tension rods, or maybe a zilvia discount or something? hehehe...:bow:

[[email protected]]

ooo I hate groupbuys... but check the groupbuy section, I will post a promotion on the tension rods shortly :)

Originally posted by formeRiceR
hey [email protected] I was wonderin you think we could doa group buy for those tension rods, or maybe a zilvia discount or something? hehehe...:bow:

[ratm]

I was wondering do you have an actual shop in Austin? or is it just an internet based company?

[[email protected]]

We were an internet based company, but we have entered into a partnership with Japanese Specialist in Round Rock Texas, and starting September we will have a display there and selling parts at out of the shop. If things go well, we will move into our own store next door sometime next year when that space becomes available...

Japanese Specialist has built some pretty cool cars in the past, you including some SCCA national champion cars... for example they built most of the 240Zs as well as Tak's 240SX that you might have seen at the Spokes autocrosses...

Originally posted by ratm
I was wondering do you have an actual shop in Austin? or is it just an internet based company?