FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AN ALL THAT IS HOLY read

[younghatchowner]

i dont have spark yet..son of a mutha fucking bitch..i changed the coil..power transistor..distributor and still getting the code 21..help me pleasse...i hear things about people asking are the injectors clicking.power to this and that.....

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME..I HAVE HAD MY CAR DOWN FOR ABOUT 5-6 MONTHS IM ONLY 17 ALL I ASK IN LIFE IS FOR MY GOD DAMN CAR TO RUN..ITS FULLY BUILT FOR CHRIST SAKE SOMEONE GET HELP GET THIS DAMN CAR RUNNING I NEED STUFF TO CHECK THINGS TO TRY A LOGICAL EXPLAINATION FOR WHY THE fFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK I DONT HAVE SPARK..PLEASE SOME KIND OF WRITE UP NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR THIS DAMN CODE 21 PROBLEM...ALSO YESTERDAY I HAD CODE 21 AND 11....THEN CODE 11 GOES AWAY(I STILL CHANGED THE DIZZY ANYWAYS) NOW I ONLY HAVE CODE 21 WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[mxexux]

Code 11 pertains to the Cam position sensor. Code 21 pertains to ignition signal. Both of the codes are pointing to the dizzy and or the harness going to it. Seeing that you already changed the dizzy the problem is most likely in the wire harness...

[younghatchowner]

ok so your giving me a lead.....do you think you can tell me where to check????


anyone else with leads please speak up

[mxexux]

Here's a big clue... The harness for the dizzy goes right in front of the head just before the its plugs into it. This part is supposed to have a zip tie that hold the harness from bouncing around. It is very common for this zip tie to break and then the harness bounces around rubbing on the head. Often it will rub through to the wire strands shorting the harness to the head.

[younghatchowner]

ill look around^^^^^




anyone else???????

[EDT007]

Never had this problem on my nissan but once had something similar on my 1g dsm. No spark whatsoever. Turned out it was some leaky capacitors in the ecu. Can you borrow an ecu from a friend or someone in your area? Worth a shot. Goodluck!

[r20crazy]

PM sent, but I'll post it here too:

ASSume this is a ka? if its an SR I'll be of no help. what engine is the car going into and did it come from? s13/s14 KA distributors are different too.

I'm also ASSuming you have pulled one of the plugs/wires and touched it to the valve cover, then crancked it over and watched for spark (its easier to be sure when dark).

theres no point in checking the injectors if there is no spark, but to check the injectors (again if on a KA) use a voltmeter set on the resistance setting and put one probe on each of the 2 prongs when injector clip is disconnected. resistance reeding should be around 11 ohms. if its significantly more or less than that injector is bad.

ASSuming KA, code 21 is the ignition signal circuit, which means that ignition signal in the primary circuit is not entered during engine cranking or running, and the common causes are the harness and/or connector, or the power transister unit (connected to the ignition coil that the plug with 3 pins connects to). make sure all 3 electrical connectors are on the coil/power transistor unit

also make sure all your engine harness grounds are connected, they are easy to miss.

keep me posted. again if a KA I can scan the testing diagram for the power transistor for you (and only requires the voltmeter), but seeing as you replaced it already I doubt it'll be of any use.

[g35gabby]

PM sent, but I'll post it here too:

ASSume this is a ka? if its an SR I'll be of no help. what engine is the car going into and did it come from? s13/s14 KA distributors are different too.

I'm also ASSuming you have pulled one of the plugs/wires and touched it to the valve cover, then crancked it over and watched for spark (its easier to be sure when dark).

theres no point in checking the injectors if there is no spark, but to check the injectors (again if on a KA) use a voltmeter set on the resistance setting and put one probe on each of the 2 prongs when injector clip is disconnected. resistance reeding should be around 11 ohms. if its significantly more or less than that injector is bad.

ASSuming KA, code 21 is the ignition signal circuit, which means that ignition signal in the primary circuit is not entered during engine cranking or running, and the common causes are the harness and/or connector, or the power transister unit (connected to the ignition coil that the plug with 3 pins connects to). make sure all 3 electrical connectors are on the coil/power transistor unit

also make sure all your engine harness grounds are connected, they are easy to miss.

keep me posted. again if a KA I can scan the testing diagram for the power transistor for you (and only requires the voltmeter), but seeing as you replaced it already I doubt it'll be of any use.

this is a KA, this is like the 11th post he has asked for people to tell him why his "fulling built" car isn't running. (he did this a bunch on local forums too before he was banned)

If someone "built" this motor...... shouldn't you be able to go back to them and ask for assistance? You seem to lack the ability to solve this on your own from every post I have read, why not stop wasting time and have someone with a clue fix it.

not sure why you stated "MY ANUS IS BLEEDING," but that sounds like something you might want to have someone check out as well.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

not sure why you stated "MY ANUS IS BLEEDING," but that sounds like something you might want to have someone check out as well.
Look up Rejected cartoons on youtube.

Bump for an awesome thread title, hahaha.

[fckillerbee]

you guys don't have a jeff jordan...maybe you can fly him out. lol

[JohnnyDrfiter22]

take your multi meter and check the volts coming from anything ignition related. do that with the sensor plugs coming off the harness and also check them coming out of the ECU maybe you got a bad wire somewhere.

[younghatchowner]

this is a KA, this is like the 11th post he has asked for people to tell him why his "fulling built" car isn't running. (he did this a bunch on local forums too before he was banned)

If someone "built" this motor...... shouldn't you be able to go back to them and ask for assistance? You seem to lack the ability to solve this on your own from every post I have read, why not stop wasting time and have someone with a clue fix it.

not sure why you stated "MY ANUS IS BLEEDING," but that sounds like something you might want to have someone check out as well.

dude ihad to conver this motor from obd2 to ob1 all by myself..now noone is asking for your help so all the stupid useless bullshit you post in my thread can just stop..also i havent asked anyone of gay ass orlando forums to help with this motor because this is a new motor and yes its fully built i can..

if there is something i need help with im going to ask..gaby im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo sorry that the nissan manual was fucking magically inplemented into your brain by birth i guess im just not as fortunate as you..im still young hense the name younghatchowner...


to anyone that isnt wasting my time....i have put a plug to my valve cover and no spark i dont know how to check or what im checking for with a multimeter...im no electrician so iguess im just gonna sit on my ass and maybe the problem with just go away(not really im gonna ask someone to help me)

[MitchellBade]

So since you posted this thread you went from 17 to 20? Damn man, you'll wake up 21 tomorrow. That's tight. Just sell your car.

[ClintRPS13]

If this is any help make sure you have the right plugs in the right place because there is two similar connectors tht go to the coil pack and to the maf. There should be two the coil pack,and i believe one is a 2 prong connector and the other is a 3. I once had the plugs in the wrong place because they look exactly the same. The Maf is distinct, so im not saying its tht one ,but there is another next to it tht is similar to the one tht hooks to the coil. Good luck!

[ClintRPS13]

Just checked out the plugs, so make sure the 2 prong connector is black/green wires going to the coil pack and not the black/ blue ones tht goes near the maf. I have the ka24e, but im almost certain its the same for the ka24de, so i hope this helps if not im sorry.

[nismoracingsx]

so much caps and so much anger...i can see why you've been banned from other forums..

who built the motor? Seriously man, you need to be in contact w/ that person instead of flipping out like a little kid on this forum..

[ClintRPS13]

Also if you do figure out the spark problem, but it wont start make sure your cylinder walls have not been washed out from the fuel. This can happen if you try to start your car to much without sucess. What happens is you will have fuel and spark, but no compression. all you have to do is pour alittle bit of oil down the spark plug holes, not to much but just enough to make compression again. it will burn oil for a while, but it should go away unless your rings were not installed correctly.

[younghatchowner]

im trying to figure out how the internals and how the motor was built means anything to something else that i myself did.u dont know me so u dont know or see why i could get banned orlandoforums is full of idiots who take internet spelling to a level higher than the tip of the empire state building...imess with that forum whenever i make a new email..so dont worry about that..


as far as my problem.. all my plugs are connected except one and its not going to anything..im shocked that i cant figure this out..i wish iwas ase certified in electrical damn it

[younghatchowner]

this is a KA, this is like the 11th post he has asked for people to tell him why his "fulling built" car isn't running. (he did this a bunch on local forums too before he was banned)

If someone "built" this motor...... shouldn't you be able to go back to them and ask for assistance? You seem to lack the ability to solve this on your own from every post I have read, why not stop wasting time and have someone with a clue fix it.

not sure why you stated "MY ANUS IS BLEEDING," but that sounds like something you might want to have someone check out as well.

:bs:count and find 11 post and that are legit about me asking to get my (fully built motor running) and ill by you a cookie

[Super_OK_S13]

i had a problem like this once... if the dizzy was installed 180 degrees (ie, not firing in the right order 1&4,2&3 are reversed, when the person installed the dizzy)(it'll still get spark, but fire on a different stroke, not compression stroke) take the spark plug wires off and switch them. 1&4 and 2&3 and see if it fires...

[KiLLeR2001]

Please sell your car, go buy a Honda, then come back here in a few years when you grow up.

[90white240]

The problem is obviously your anus. Start there and see what happens you never know? NA jk sorry lol

[ClintRPS13]

As far as the connectors even though they are all plugged in just make sure they are all in the right place, so your not sure about tht one unplugged connector? where is it exactly maybe i can figure out where it goes 3 pin 2 pin connector? also is this the ka24de(dohc) or ka24e(sohc). Also if its the dohc there are 2 kinds of dohc theorectically because from 91 to 94 the ka24de had a different harness for the s13 model 95 and up (s14) has a different computer and engine harness, so if u have a 95 or higher make sure the maf and dizzy are not for the 91 to 94 (s13)or vice versa they are not inter changeable as far as im concerned.

[mxexux]

i had a problem like this once... if the dizzy was installed 180 degrees (ie, not firing in the right order 1&4,2&3 are reversed, when the person installed the dizzy)(it'll still get spark, but fire on a different stroke, not compression stroke) take the spark plug wires off and switch them. 1&4 and 2&3 and see if it fires...

The dizzy will always fire in the correct order as long as the wires are installed correctly. I think you meant to refer to spark timing.

OP, if you want to make sure the dizzy is installed correctly, put the #1 cylinder at TDC. Pull the distributor out; there should be a couple of dots on the side of the shafts. One is on the shaft that is part of the gear and the other is on the shaft that it part of the ditributor housing. These 2 dots need to be lined up when you install the distributor with the #1 cylinder at TDC.

[younghatchowner]

I think i tried that a few times but thanks alot for reminding me i almost forgot...

killer...fucku,,,,

white..lol...

the thing is i take off the coil wire off of my dizzy andtouch it to my valve cover...no spark..same thing with 1 of my spark plug wires with the spark plug connected to it..touch close to valve cover and...you guessed it..no spark

[Def]

Is the valve cover even grounded? Test it on your intake manifold, as that actually has a stable ground.

[WheelWhore]

well no offense, but if your coil isnt sparking, neither will your spark plugs.??? did you replace all the parts with new?

[younghatchowner]

yes sir i did.....um i totally forgot to mention that there is no power to my guage cluster and the ding sing from the doors being open...nothing..maye that helps idk...

[mxexux]

Check fuses next....

[Def]

yes sir i did.....um i totally forgot to mention that there is no power to my guage cluster and the ding sing from the doors being open...nothing..maye that helps idk...

Sounds like your 75A grey fuse might be blown. I had that happen to me when a buddy loaned me a battery with switched terminals and I didn't catch it before tossing it in(exact same other than that). It blew the 75A fuse, and had weird electrical symptoms in the interior of all places, and of course the engine didn't start.

[lazysk8er2]

dammit i was just gonna say that about the fuse...fak! hahhaah

[younghatchowner]

um no the fuse is perfect..the only light on my cluster that works is the battery light..

[Def]

If you don't have lights on your dash and no spark - you have a major fuse blown or a relay is dead. Check ALL your underhood fuses, then start checking relays.

[s13 @ fullboost]

you need one of these Fluke 88 Series V Deluxe Automotive Multimeter (http://www.fluke.com/Fluke/usen/Digital-Multimeters/Fluke-88V.htm?PID=56148)

and here I am ASSuming you will need this to YouTube - How To Use A Multimeter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzjMIcER4EU)


cheers mate

[younghatchowner]

ok so my alternator fuse is blown but i looked real good and u couldnt tell but i took it out just to triple check and sure enough its bblown but its alittle hard to tell untill i shoo it around..ok..i had another onelaying around and i put it in and zzzzz pop...it blew on me..this is electrical so i have no clue what to say.....

also there are 2grounds on the alternator...i put both of them on one ground using one screw..that really shouldnt matter right..

[s13 @ fullboost]

man I just posted the solution to your problem you wanted help and zilvia is giving it to you. Now go fix your car.

[younghatchowner]

new problem bro please read..

[jesse_s13]

i just read the whole thread. Oh you have to hold the clutch down when your try to start it..haha jk Sounds complicated.

[s13 @ fullboost]

new problem bro please read..


bahaha your "new problem" can be solved with a DVOM Bro

[illvialuver]

What fullboost is telling you, is that if you buy the meter he is telling you to buy and watch the video of how to use it on youtube( youtube will probably replace the california school board, shit will teach you anything) you will have the knowledge and the tools needed to find out what is causing your electrical problem.

also He was nice enough to link you to both the place to buy the meter and the youtube page to teach you how to use.

I know your 17-20, so Just put on some teen spirit and chill out. He is giving you exactly what you need to do it yourself.

Which would be wise because electrical work is NOT cheap, just hit up gsxrjordan on here from jordan innovations.

[nismoracingsx]

sounds like you have a power wire shorted to ground, jumping the load, overheating the circuit, fullboost is still correct in that you need to pick up a multimeter and get a clue, "bro"

[illvialuver]

And everyone else who is reading this needs to watch rejected cartoons on youtube, it will make you go oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Keep watching it until you hit that part.

[younghatchowner]

i totally understand that fullboost is trying to help me guys i do. but right nowmoney is tight and idont have time to wait..alsoi have a friend ith a multimeter..


update...my dad accidentally put the ground for the alternator and the power wire together(honest mistake) thinking they were both ground and was poping alternatr fuses..so i went back and redid the wires and now i put new fuse and i have power to gauge but car still spitting 21..no spark..what the efff lol

[g35gabby]

dude ihad to conver this motor from obd2 to ob1 all by myself..now noone is asking for your help so all the stupid useless bullshit you post in my thread can just stop..also i havent asked anyone of gay ass orlando forums to help with this motor because this is a new motor and yes its fully built i can..

if there is something i need help with im going to ask..gaby im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo sorry that the nissan manual was fucking magically inplemented into your brain by birth i guess im just not as fortunate as you..im still young hense the name younghatchowner...


to anyone that isnt wasting my time....i have put a plug to my valve cover and no spark i dont know how to check or what im checking for with a multimeter...im no electrician so iguess im just gonna sit on my ass and maybe the problem with just go away(not really im gonna ask someone to help me)

First lets get one thing straight, I'm not a dude. Never have been, and OBD2 to OBD1 is a Cake thing to do, so please don't get all worked up about how awesome that change was. I installed my CA18 S13 and it didn't take me 1/10 of the time it has taken you. Not sure why you are saying no one is asking for help, because clearly you are(check the last line of this very post).

You got banned from OF because you spammed the shit out Craigslist about shops you weren't working for then told them they owed you for the work that "you sent them." When you went on there for help, you were instructed in detail how to fix the problems and instead of taking it, you acted like an asshat. Now you are stuck in the same situation because you won't pull your head out of your anus.(could very well be the cause your bleeding issues.

count and find 11 post and that are legit about me asking to get my (fully built motor running) and ill by you a cookie

You have bought, blown up, and sold all kinds of motors..... how am I to keep track. Crack head tuned KAs and stuff is what you have asked about in the past, I just assumed this was still what you were working with.

Ps for bragging about an OBD2 to OBD1 conversion....... it really would be more impressive if it worked. It wouldn't shock me at all if this isn't the whole issue in this equation.

btw There is no such thing as wasted money when it comes to a multimeter.

[g-via]

You got banned from OF because you spammed the shit out Craigslist about shops you weren't working for then told them they owed you for the work that "you sent them."


hahah if that's true that is the most pathetic thing i've ever heard of

[younghatchowner]

[QUOTE=


First lets get one thing straight, I'm not a dude. Never have been, and OBD2 to OBD1 is a Cake thing to do, so please don't get all worked up about how awesome that change was. I installed my CA18 S13 and it didn't take me 1/10 of the time it has taken you. Not sure why you are saying no one is asking for help, because clearly you are(check the last line of this very post).

You got banned from OF because you spammed the shit out Craigslist about shops you weren't working for then told them they owed you for the work that "you sent them." When you went on there for help, you were instructed in detail how to fix the problems and instead of taking it, you acted like an asshat. Now you are stuck in the same situation because you won't pull your head out of your anus.(could very well be the cause your bleeding issues.



You have bought, blown up, and sold all kinds of motors..... how am I to keep track. Crack head tuned KAs and stuff is what you have asked about in the past, I just assumed this was still what you were working with.

Ps for bragging about an OBD2 to OBD1 conversion....... it really would be more impressive if it worked. It wouldn't shock me at all if this isn't the whole issue in this equation.

btw There is no such thing as wasted money when it comes to a multimeter.

omg gabby ur an idiot bro i think uhave your head up ur ass so far u dont even n the truth....i have neverblown a motor before..ive had2 ka's one stock(sold) and this new fully built one that i put money together for so get ur shit str8.. and what shops are you talkin about dude there was never a shp except jdm orlando and yes he does owe mike is a pos who i got a job for and he told me he was gonna get me seats for langding him that job and he never did thats it..wtf am i explaining to you for anyone..open ur eyes and stfu and read the post n of on how i explained everything...also im 17 work and pulix and just started making money .. any money i make needs to be saved so yea sorry im not making big baller gabby money..

o yea and no im not asking for your help..ur not doing shit but talking nonsense ad trying to make people look bad..

[younghatchowner]

all the post on craigslist are post to help mechanics i know to find sidejobs and i get a small comission for finding a successful client..ive made my friends good money and my self good money which got me by while not having a job..so thanks

[g35gabby]

so what happened to this "running motor" more compressor surge(70%tuned and drivable) - OrlandoForums.com :: #1 Online Community for all of Central Florida (http://www.orlandoforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143228)


If you didn't nuke this one Im very suprized. Then you went RB (apparently), now you are here again.

young_ka-t_drifter - OrlandoForums.com :: #1 Online Community for all of Central Florida (http://www.orlandoforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143436)

btw, please understand, I AM NOT A DUDE.

thank you have a nice day.

[younghatchowner]

i was going to jdm tech to pick up and rb an the day before i was gonna go buy it my friend decided to sell his built ka(he called me right after i got off the phone with jdm tech..it was the wierdest thing ever but thank god..i'd rather have 400hp reliably over an rb..super super legit....the one about compressor surge is when i had a bad vacuum line to my wastegate so i had compressor surge and my bov was to strong....ijust need to find out why im not getting spark and yea..

so yea bruh bruh....really just stop posting cause your not saying anything

[g-via]

You guys should've heard him revving his p.o.s. to 4k at the Monday night meet. I felt like draining my oil right there and making my motor knock. That would've sounded equally stupid.

P.s. fagtron dont follow so close behind my multicultural vehicle in your moms hyundai...

lol

from orlando forum link

[nismoracingsx]

ftw, funny stuff ^_^

[nismoracingsx]

so he's just another forum troll??

lame = /

[younghatchowner]

yes^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[s13 @ fullboost]

i totally understand that fullboost is trying to help me guys i do. but right nowmoney is tight and idont have time to wait..alsoi have a friend ith a multimeter..



You obviously don't have to go out and buy a fluke meter. Now why by a tool twice idk but you can always go get a cheap one for like 15-20 bucks. Fluke is what I use and it a dam good meter and would be excellent for the troubles your having. Now granted your friend has a meter AWESOME borrow it and solve your problem. Just remember though next time you have an electrical issue and your friend is not around your going be like fuck why didn't my bleeding ass listen to fullboost and buy a meter. GL

[younghatchowner]

wow..ifound out the problem and fixed it all by myself witha a $5 test light...thanks

[lainardisboss]

yes sir i did.....um i totally forgot to mention that there is no power to my guage cluster and the ding sing from the doors being open...nothing..maye that helps idk...

fuck man.... get your car checked or something, is it stolen or smthn?
itll be less of a hassle for you. gl

[younghatchowner]

and i thought i couldnt make sense??

[90hatchie]

i vote ban

[Psychomoongoose]

^ Mee toooooo. Why act like such a little bitch? Ban central.

[JohnnyDrfiter22]

Damn younghatch G35 Gabby Owned your whinning crying Anus!!!

But anyways grow up listen to some experienced ppl on here next time!

What did you do to Fix the problem

[younghatchowner]

yea definately alot of expierenced helpout here^^....1 or 2 pieces none from you or gabby..as far as the problem goes dont worry about it..after the crap talk i dont feel like saying..if someone really needs to know what happened pm me or something..

psycho+hatchie=fuck u

[s13 @ fullboost]

how much did it cost to get it fixed??

[younghatchowner]

$0 and alot of time staring and thinking


but thanks for the advice on a multimeter..im going to need 1 one day..

[illvialuver]

How is 0 and 5 dollars for a tester the same price? This thread made me laugh, and your lack of punctuation made my head hurt.

Hats of to Gabby, what a dude. Im only kidding because Im sure Gabby is short for gabriel, not Gaberial.

[younghatchowner]

i took the tester back to discount $5-$5=$0

[J3123MY]

lol. fixing electrical shit without a multimeter?

[younghatchowner]

yes sir!!!!!