suspension bushings/subframe bushings

[cdlong]

i've got a set of shocks and springs on the way and i figured while i was at it i would upgrade the suspension bushings too. just my luck, PDM is running a group buy now. is there anything else i should do other than their bushing package? bushing package (http://www.pdm-racing.com/specials/specials.html#bushings) should i get new ball joints too? i don't think mine are bad, but it doesn't look like they have any upgrades for the S13.

my main question is this, are these the same thing? which one is better? Greg Dupree spacers (http://www.zilvia.net/reviews/showproduct.php?product=4&sort=1&thecat=57) Whiteline spacers (http://www.zilvia.net/reviews/showproduct.php?product=66&sort=1&thecat=57) i always thought they were the same thing, but why do you get 4 of one and 6 of the other?

[Dousan_PG]

4 is excellent for more rear stability/hadnling and it is most nuetral. your handing will be better and like stock but firmer

the 6 is good for tweaking...for setting up for drag grip or drift

the dupree ones are most nuetral and extremely effective.

[cdlong]

dousan, you are just a wealth of useful information, thank you. i think i will go with greg's.

what else should i do, ball joints? tie rod ends? my suspension isn't problematic, just the occasional clunk or pop, but i want the car to be tight. sway bars are stage two so don't worry about that.

[Dousan_PG]

dont worry about sway bars, get all your bushings replace ball joints tie rod ends and all that hoopla

car will be firmer and more responsive.

dont forget you WILL need a full alignment when its all bee installed.

get a hydraulic press here and u can do all the work yourself without paying someone!!!! :)

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:p

[Yoshi]

Harbor Freight 0wnz! :D

[cdlong]

one sort of random question. my rear end, well, my car's, not mine, sometimes does a little waggle as i come out of a turn. when i make a fairly sharp turn pretty hard the rear end swings out a little, (i seem to remember hearing about passive rear steer somewhere) as i come out of the turn if i straighten out really fast the rear end kind of catches and wiggles a little. is that normal or is something loose back there?

does anyone know of any upgraded ball joints or tie rod ends, the only ones i've seen for an S13 are on PDM and those look like stock replacement parts.

[Dousan_PG]

well rear end has no tie rod ends

rear does have ball joint: upgrade entire arm=nismo $$$

front tie rod ends: upgrade--MOog (cheap) Kazama $$$$

squirlyness could be a variety of factors, but prbably bushings and your toe link is lose and your rear toe changes make the car squirly

[black s13]

not trying to jack the thread..... but where can you buy kazama stuff, that has a site in english?? i saw the GB on here, but it appears to be over, and i cant find any kazama stuff for normal prices on the guys site. someones got to where to buy this stuff....

[Dousan_PG]

you kno wthey are japanese company? no official us distributor

contact raretrick.com might have some stuf

[Flybert]

Just to let you know, i had some rear end squirlyness before. I think it had to do with the fact that my rear shocks were blown. I installed an eibach pro kit with koni yellows and GD subframe spacers and now it's solid. The spacers really help to get rid of that rear end squat. Good upgrade and cheap too.

[ColumbusDrift]

cdlong-

Hey man I'm from Toledo too. I'm living there all summer and would love to talk to you about your setup with your 240. I just bought a 240 in the middle of June and need help and advice. email or pm me or just give me a response from this post.

[DTM006]

Originally posted by black s13
where can you buy kazama stuff, that has a site in english??

GMS Racing Inc. (http://store.yahoo.com/ginnmotorsports/index.html) has Kazama stuff, in english!! As far as I know, they're the only ones who do. :bow:

Dan

[black s13]

actually raretrick has just about every part they make, and cheap too!! i will check that last one too.