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FoCaL
08-06-2003, 08:27 AM
Well Im about to start my first project on my 240, and I can see its a huge one. Im basically redoing everything suspensions wise, nothing will be left untouched. So here is my list if anyone can see anything I missed or should do while Im doing something else please let me know. Im going to start this weekend, wish me luck.

THE LIST:
S14 5 lug hubs*
S14 Spindles
S14 front shocks (KYB AGX)*
S14 Moog Lower control Arm Ball Joints*
Moog Inner and Outer Steering Tensions Rods*
Whiteline Bushings for everything I could get*
Z32 front brakes & Rotors
Z32 Rear Brakes & Rotors
Z32 Rear Hubs and Spindles
Z32 Rear Shocks (KYB AGX)*
Z32 Master Cylinder
Stainless Steel Brake Lines*
Mutol RFB 600 Brake Fluid*
Axxis Pads*
S13 Eibach Springs (pro kit)*
Z32 TT wheels (2x7.5 & 2x8.5)
Bridgestone Potenza RE750 Tires (225 50 16 front and 245 45 16 rears)*
Rebuild kit for front calipers
Rebuild kit for rear calipers
Every pin, shim, spring, for both front and rear calipers*
S14 shock dust boot and bump stop*
Z32 shock dust boot and bump stop*
Steering Rack rebuild kit for when I put the new Tensions Rods on

* = new item, not used or off another car

West
08-06-2003, 09:57 AM
You need the four s14 Strut Mounting Bolts? You will need those for when you drill your shocks/AGS's to fit your 5 lug swap. IIRC they are 14mm vs the s13's 12mm.

That reminds me I need to pick mine up from Nissan :) They only cost about 12$ IIRC.

FoCaL
08-06-2003, 10:02 AM
Thanks, come to think of it I need the mounting bolts for the rear Z32 shocks also. Ill stop by the dealer tonight and get them. Thanks.

AKADriver
08-06-2003, 10:21 AM
When you buy the strut bolts, see if you can get eccentric upper bolts for camber adjustment.

Overall, it looks like you have things pretty well sorted.

sykikchimp
08-06-2003, 12:16 PM
a few things..

Are you sure z32 rear struts will work? I was under the impression they were too long.. something like you had to cut off the bottom of a z32 strut, and have it attached to the s13 struts of your choice?...

Never heard of using s14 front struts wither.. just people drilling out the s13 mounts.

Are you getting eccntric camber/toe correction bushings for the back?

What kind of springs are you going to run?

What are these: "Inner and Outer Steering Tensions Rods" I've never heard of this...

You will also need s14 lower control arms in the front.

I would also suggest:
Subframe spacers
pillowball T/C rods
STB's
Swaybars

Dousan_PG
08-06-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by sykikchimp
What are these: "Inner and Outer Steering Tensions Rods" I've never heard of this...


i think he means tie rods
steering=tie rods

FoCaL
08-06-2003, 12:41 PM
Thanks dousan36 thats what I ment tie rod not tension rod. Brain fart I guess ... to many parts :)

Are you sure z32 rear struts will work? I was under the impression they were too long.. something like you had to cut off the bottom of a z32 strut, and have it attached to the s13 struts of your choice?...

No Im not 100% sure they will work cause I have never done and I have not been able to find anyone that has. Im going on a few posts Ive found that says theyll work, SCC says they will, and Im still waiting to here from KYB with some definite specs on the differences in the two shocks. Here is what Im doing, Im being the ginne pig and Im going to post afterward so everyone will know either way. I have the Z32 shocks, and I found someone who the S13's in stock and I worked a deal with them and put a deposit down on them. They are holding htem for me in cas eI need them then they ca ship out the next day if needed. Personally I see no reason why they wont work.

What kind of springs are you going to run?

Read my post again

You will also need s14 lower control arms in the front.

On the contrary no I dont, I just need the lower ball joint, because its different thats the S13, and it is what connects to the spindle. Hence the part listed above "S14 Moog Lower control Arm Ball Joints*
" Please also not that the S14 lower control arm is longer and will not work.

I would also suggest:
Subframe spacers
pillowball T/C rods
STB's
Swaybars

Im getting hte subframe align and lock kit, came with all my other whitline stuff in the PDM suspension special. :) T/C rods would be nice but Ill just swap out the bushing for now. STB's and swaybars will come later, ran out of money. :)

sykikchimp
08-06-2003, 12:48 PM
I know the s14 arms are longer.. They DO work. thats why I thought they were necessary. I assumed it had something to do with a possible difference in the suspension geometry from the face of the knuckle. If the s13 arms are too short for the knuckle, then you could end up with weird positive camber problems.

Also, I've read the s14 ball joint is a bit larger than the s13 and may cause some trouble getting the s14 ball joint in the arm.

crioten
08-06-2003, 12:55 PM
where are you located in stl? im willing to lend a hand if you need it...


or


ah hell, i just wanna check out your car lol

FoCaL
08-06-2003, 01:00 PM
Cool I didnt know they would work, I guess it makes sense youd just end up with some neg camber in the end. I havent been able to find anyone whos had problems getting the S14 ball joints in their S13 arms, at least in my searching nothing came up. I plan on taking them somewhere for that anyway. Hopefully they dont have any problems.

FoCaL
08-06-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by crioten
where are you located in stl? im willing to lend a hand if you need it...


or


ah hell, i just wanna check out your car lol

Thats cool shoot me a PM and well have to get together sometime. I plan on starting this weekend, whether I actually start taking things off the car Im not sure, I have a lot to do off the car too. Rebuild calipers, clean up rust on used parts, stip and clean Z32 wheels, Powdercoat everything I can. So it should be fun :) BTW Im in Fenton.

AKADriver
08-06-2003, 01:10 PM
chimp, FoCaL's got it, you want to use the S13 LCA with the S14 ball joint. The geometry of the knuckles is the same, they just made the ball joints, strut bolts, and hubs beefier for strength. The S14 LCA is longer because the S14 track is wider and the struts are further apart.