G25x.....SERIOUSLY NISSAN FUCK OFF!!!!

[n8RPS13]

Ok so we have all been begging for a new s-chassis and what does Nissan do....They throw a 2.5 into a G sedan and a coupe! WHAT THE FUCK NISSAN!!!!:rl::rant::rant::rant::bash::smash::meph fawk::duh:

[upsdude]

is it rwd? i'm guessing no with all the frowns you had lol

edit: just read the article a little more- "The G25 comes standard with a seven-speed automatic transmission, and it will be available in both rear-wheel and all-wheel drive. The G25 will have three trims: Base , Journey, and G25x AWD."

well at least it'll come in rwd, but only in auto? blah

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Fucking wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[n8RPS13]

Im not sure. I believe it shares the same motor as the altima which would be an FF. It is 348hp though

[n8RPS13]

Its on youtube The reveal of the 2011 IPL G Coupe and the 2011 Infiniti (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DI-VNcWLQ9KY&h=47353)

[handinpants]

its official... the 240sx is the new honda civic....... now all the kids who wanna be fast and furious are gonna buy 240s.... its all downhill from here...

[upsdude]

lol hasn't that been the case for a few years now?

[worangejuice]

thanks for posting this.........
Its on youtube The reveal of the 2011 IPL G Coupe and the 2011 Infiniti (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DI-VNcWLQ9KY&h=47353)
....but what a dull freaking video/presentation....:barf:

[Sam_Well.13]

you guys know what that means... gotta step your game up on a 350z or 370z. lol

[TwItCh]

^^^ yea pretty much unfortunately i hate that so much (about the honda civic thing)

fanboys are going to be shitting up this forums

oo yea i might be 18 but i had my car since i was 12

[Sam_Well.13]

^^^ yea pretty much unfortunately i hate that so much (about the honda civic thing)

fanboys are going to be shitting up this forums

oo yea i might be 18 but i had my car since i was 12

it is what it is. ive seen more honda's @ adams than 240sx. :duh:.

my friends hang out with fanboys, and would try to drift on EVERYCORNER on the way to adams or wherever. so i just turn around and go home.

[drift freaq]

Once again we have someone crying over something good. You guys just don't fucking get it. By bringing out the G25 in the Infiniti line they have opened up the door to making a 250sx based off the Z line. Slight shrunken done Z chassis with different bodywork with a 200HP VQ25HR.

Seriously you guys so sell Nissan short. I said this in another thread I will say it here.

NISSAN Does not always telegraph in their new models. The fact that not much was said about this before they dropped it on us last weekend just goes to show there could be a new SX out there.

But no all you guys wanna cry waaaaa because they have announced this and not your beloved SX.
Seriously you guys underestimate this company. They did not tell anyone when they brought out the AWD G35 they just started advertising it. At that point in time there was not much talk (from Nissan) about the GTR actually coming out either. Especially in the U.S. but the minute I saw those commercials I knew the GTR was on its way.

Its the same thing here, if you stopped crying for half a second and used your brain you would realize that this lays the groundwork for a new SX.

OP stop your crying and cussing and wake up and smell the coffee this is a good thing.

[simmode1]

Once again we have someone crying over something good. You guys just don't fucking get it. By bringing out the G25 in the Infiniti line they have opened up the door to making a 250sx based off the Z line. Slight shrunken done Z chassis with different bodywork with a 200HP VQ25HR.
:werd:
Exactly what I was thinking. I'm hoping for an S-chassis revival like the rest of you guys. But I'm also not ashamed to say that I don't personally believe in having a car-note, so I won't be getting one. But what I'm hoping is that more cheapskates like me will still want cheap turbo VQ power and finally popularize VQ30DET swaps. I can't figure out for the life of me why they haven't caught on yet...

[BoxMan]

I personally don't think an sx revival will ever happen. I mean, that's just very hopeful thinking. Cuz I hope for another s chassis as well lol..

[raz0rbladez909]

You guys just don't fucking get it.

Hah well said, lets just hope it doesn't have the god for saken concentric slave cylinder problems like the vq35hr ;)

[fliprayzin240sx]

Once again we have someone crying over something good. You guys just don't fucking get it. By bringing out the G25 in the Infiniti line they have opened up the door to making a 250sx based off the Z line. Slight shrunken done Z chassis with different bodywork with a 200HP VQ25HR.

Seriously you guys so sell Nissan short. I said this in another thread I will say it here.

NISSAN Does not always telegraph in their new models. The fact that not much was said about this before they dropped it on us last weekend just goes to show there could be a new SX out there.

But no all you guys wanna cry waaaaa because they have announced this and not your beloved SX.
Seriously you guys underestimate this company. They did not tell anyone when they brought out the AWD G35 they just started advertising it. At that point in time there was not much talk (from Nissan) about the GTR actually coming out either. Especially in the U.S. but the minute I saw those commercials I knew the GTR was on its way.

Its the same thing here, if you stopped crying for half a second and used your brain you would realize that this lays the groundwork for a new SX.

OP stop your crying and cussing and wake up and smell the coffee this is a good thing.

The best part is that..how many people in here will actually buy a brand spanking new 240sx if Nissan actually make one? I highly doubt 10% of the folks on this forum will go out and buy one. Why? Too many fucking wishers, dreamers and broke ass kids in the 240sx world.

Hell, would I get one? Fuck no...I can get a 350z for cheaper nowadays. Why the fuck would I wanna buy a car that I'm gonna mod, still make car payments and pay for full coverage insurance?!?! Plus the fact that aftermarket parts for it wont be cheap since its new...

I'll never understand why people are still crying over this when we already got used 350/370Zs readily available and will out handle/perform anything Nissan could make for less than $25k.

[5pecialist]

This thread sucks & needs to be locked.

[udon!]

Nissan does not give a fuck about us.

Want to know why?

WE DONT HAVE THE MONEY.

THEY NEED MONEY TO THRIVE AS A BUISNESS.

THERE MAKING AND SELLING CARS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO HAS MONEY.

[5pecialist]

THERE MAKING AND SELLING CARS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO HAS MONEY.
...and the general public sees no difference between a Hyundai & a Nissan. Sadly, Nissan will have to become more like the cheaper disposable car companies to be able to compete :( We even have people here on Zilvia who chose to purchase a Hyundai instead of a Nissan.

[stinky_180]

Typical post from a typical zilvian....

Cry because you can't afford it LOL!

I think it looks great! Boo on the no manual tranny grrrrrrr...

[liljeb]

A new s-chassis would have been bonerific... :(

[born2killit]

the purpose of the S platform was to make an affordable sports car....sadly if nissan decided to revive the s platform base might go for around 17k more or less.... but you might say well shit i can get a fully loaded 240sx for cheaper than a 370z... theyll lose business on the 370z.... and the 370z is like their mascot... its not good for business especially not that the GTR is out , they have a relatively good relatively affordable sports car , being the 370 and a high-end beast for a highend price...all of the big car companies do it

[VROOOM]

17K for a new S Chassis? they cost more than that brand new 15 years ago.

[silviaguy240]

it would be at least $22k for base, genesis is at just under $23k for base and ft-86 whenever that comes out has a projected base of ~$25-27k. theres no way in hell its gonna be 17k

[whiterps13]

the purpose of the S platform was to make an affordable sports car....sadly if nissan decided to revive the s platform base might go for around 17k more or less.... but you might say well shit i can get a fully loaded 240sx for cheaper than a 370z... theyll lose business on the 370z.... and the 370z is like their mascot... its not good for business especially not that the GTR is out , they have a relatively good relatively affordable sports car , being the 370 and a high-end beast for a highend price...all of the big car companies do it

No it wasnt. The S-Chassis was marketed as an economy car.

What the fuck is all the crying about? The 240sx is not the end-all, perfect car by any means. In fact, they were overpriced, underpowered economy cars marketed for female secretaries. Get over it.

[n8RPS13]

Once again we have someone crying over something good. You guys just don't fucking get it. By bringing out the G25 in the Infiniti line they have opened up the door to making a 250sx based off the Z line. Slight shrunken done Z chassis with different bodywork with a 200HP VQ25HR.

Seriously you guys so sell Nissan short. I said this in another thread I will say it here.

NISSAN Does not always telegraph in their new models. The fact that not much was said about this before they dropped it on us last weekend just goes to show there could be a new SX out there.

But no all you guys wanna cry waaaaa because they have announced this and not your beloved SX.
Seriously you guys underestimate this company. They did not tell anyone when they brought out the AWD G35 they just started advertising it. At that point in time there was not much talk (from Nissan) about the GTR actually coming out either. Especially in the U.S. but the minute I saw those commercials I knew the GTR was on its way.

Its the same thing here, if you stopped crying for half a second and used your brain you would realize that this lays the groundwork for a new SX.

OP stop your crying and cussing and wake up and smell the coffee this is a good thing.


RANT RANT RANT!!! I didn't even read past the sentence with our beloved SX. Yer DAMN RIGHT ITS BELOVED!About 2 months ago Nissan had said that the s-chassis is not being looked at to be revived...EVER. Mostly because they dont believe there is any market for it. I started the thread to let everyone know about the G25x and that it sucks that they are releasing this insteasd of a new S-chassis! Yes it might open a door to a new one but not anytime soon:duh:

[n8RPS13]

Typical post from a typical zilvian....

Cry because you can't afford it LOL!

I think it looks great! Boo on the no manual tranny grrrrrrr...

Whos crying about not being able to afford it? Can you afford it? You shouldn't make assumptions about people you dont know man. It does look great and is going to be a cool platform, except for the auto-tranny. As usual everyone is mis-understanding why I posted this.

[DreamN]

What was your point?

The Skyline 250 GT has long been out and selling quite well as far as I know. So Nissan/Infiniti made certain to have the G25 named registered years back and it surprises people that they finally brought it over stateside? Really?

I see this as a good thing and if it indeed gets offered in a US G25 Coupe form I'd be hard pressed not to want to check it out in person. If anything, at least the VQ25HR will now be a legal swap option for some.

[drift freaq]

RANT RANT RANT!!! I didn't even read past the sentence with our beloved SX.

Which shows you love to wallow in ignorance.



Yer DAMN RIGHT ITS BELOVED!About 2 months ago Nissan had said that the s-chassis is not being looked at to be revived...EVER. Mostly because they dont believe there is any market for it. I started the thread to let everyone know about the G25x and that it sucks that they are releasing this insteasd of a new S-chassis! Yes it might open a door to a new one but not anytime soon:duh:

Which shows you are pretty damn ignorant. The G25 will do very well, coming in at 30k . Oh its not only available in AWD but of course you missed that.

All you could do is whine and cuss about it without stepping back and taking a complete evaluation of the situation.

You can't see the forest for the trees. Sorry about that.

Oh and I will add this. When your beloved S chassis came out it. It was up against more powerful cars and it was not marketed as a entry level sports car.
Oh and because of that in stock form it needed modification. Woohoo I want a car company to release a underpowered car that is not marketed or outfitted how it should be. So I can buy it new and spend thousands on modifications just to make it what it should have been.

Sounds like a winning idea to me. NOT! LOL

Sure the 240sx had its potential but as it was marketed to the American public? I do not wish a repeat.

Given all of that I am not pinning for a new one. If it comes and its right? Great. The fact that this opens the door to it? Its pretty much strong.
The fact that you cannot see that and want your shit now. Pretty damn typical.

[Sam_Well.13]

if a civic go for $30K. why not a luxury sport sedan...... know what i mean.

[CrimsonRockett]

Jesus fucking christ.

Buy a 350z.

Remove badges.

Install UBER JDM 350sx badges (special order from eBay).

Holy shit. You've got yourself a new SX.

Yeahhhh.

/sarcasm.

If Nissan doesn't come out with a new "SX", it's not a big deal. We already have the 350 and 370. Both great platforms.

[irax]

you mean, buy 350z, swap in vq25hr and then badge it the 250sx
do it on a 370z for kouki model

[simmode1]

If Nissan doesn't come out with a new "SX", it's not a big deal. We already have the 350 and 370. Both great platforms.

For real. Most of you guys will just pull out the rear seats anyways. Just get a real 2 seater like the Z33 and be done with it. That way you don't have to cry about not being able to gut and cage your brand new car.

[NismoDriverS13]

nah, 350z and 370z is a great car and all. however i do not like the styling of those cars, they seem like bulky retarded ground hogs. they dont look good at all.

a new lighter design, maybe off a s13 would be really nice. has to be back wheel drive, t-motor, manual and cheap and basically all u really need. no swaps or other shit needed. made for the younger gen like the fucking gay scions.

they can totally achieve that, but since the economy is shit. they worry about loosing money more than making some. and that what sucks.

[Walperstyle]

I know many of you think that there is a huge market for 'drifters or tunerz or racers etc' but there really isnt. Its something like 5% If I remember.

Nissan already has a GTR, 370z... I'm sure if they could somehow build and sell a small car like the Miata for cheap they would. But they can't make enough money on it.

This is why Nissan is still in business. GMC made several different SUV's... look where it got them.

[racepar1]

Jeez, it's a cool new car and possibly the groundwork for another s-chasis with a VQ. Give Nissan a break, at least they're not Toyota...

[Sam_Well.13]

ehh id rock it

[Walperstyle]

Jeez, it's a cool new car and possibly the groundwork for another s-chasis with a VQ. Give Nissan a break, at least they're not Toyota...

uh, spite toyota's owners not knowing how to drive and the bogus lawsuits because of it, Toyota is probably the smartest company in the world when it comes to automobiles.

Toyota is building some sports car, its called the FT86 or something. Hybrid or not, we don't know till 2014 what It'll be like or what engines are available.

[racepar1]

uh, spite toyota's owners not knowing how to drive and the bogus lawsuits because of it, Toyota is probably the smartest company in the world when it comes to automobiles.

Toyota is building some sports car, its called the FT86 or something. Hybrid or not, we don't know till 2014 what It'll be like or what engines are available.

Toyota hasn't made a performance car worth even looking at since the supra, which was a pig and no competition for the GTR's whatsoever. Currently they seem to be reviving a little performance in their Lexus line, but it's only really the IS. Don't even get me started on the LF-A, I haven't the slightest clue why Toyota decided that that was a good car to build. It's cool and all, but it makes no sense. The FT86 is the same as our new s-chasis, at this point only hopes and dreams.

While a few of those lawsuits were "bogus" the vast majority were not. Toyota made an enormous mistake with their elecrical systems/programming and they are paying the due price for it.

I wonder why you're on a Nissan forum talking about how "great" Toyota is...

[n8RPS13]

Which shows you love to wallow in ignorance.




Which shows you are pretty damn ignorant. The G25 will do very well, coming in at 30k . Oh its not only available in AWD but of course you missed that.

All you could do is whine and cuss about it without stepping back and taking a complete evaluation of the situation.

You can't see the forest for the trees. Sorry about that.

Oh and I will add this. When your beloved S chassis came out it. It was up against more powerful cars and it was not marketed as a entry level sports car.
Oh and because of that in stock form it needed modification. Woohoo I want a car company to release a underpowered car that is not marketed or outfitted how it should be. So I can buy it new and spend thousands on modifications just to make it what it should have been.

Sounds like a winning idea to me. NOT! LOL

Sure the 240sx had its potential but as it was marketed to the American public? I do not wish a repeat.

Given all of that I am not pinning for a new one. If it comes and its right? Great. The fact that this opens the door to it? Its pretty much strong.
The fact that you cannot see that and want your shit now. Pretty damn typical.

First of all I was FUCKING joking when I said "Yer DAMN RIGHT its beloved"!!!

No I did not miss the fact that it was being offered in both drive types and I also think it will do well. Im not saying that I want another S right now either, but it would be nice and yes I do understand that it might open the doors for an S chassis, but as Nissan has said countless times it's not likely.

I will also say this, as far as calling someone ignorant thats just rude! I never took any peronal shot's at you. Why does every person on this site feel the need to insult people....oh wait I know because we are on the internet. I would love to see half the people on here that talk shit and insult people do it face to face.

I do love the S-chassis as many others do, some of which have made successful businesses because of love for the car. How am I being ignorant about wanting a new one? I fully understand why Nissan has put this car out.

[n8RPS13]

Oh and by the way the idiom is "You can't see the forrest through the tree's" especially in the context you used.

[NismoDriverS13]

anyways,

i just hope that in some not too distant future we can have Nissan come out with another s-chassis like dodge is doing with challengers and shit.

[n8RPS13]

Thank you NismoDriverS13 thats all I was really trying to say:)

[ranger240]

anyways,

i just hope that in some not too distant future we can have Nissan come out with another s-chassis like dodge is doing with challengers and shit.

lets only hope any new 240sx's arnt plus sized fatty reincarnation of their forebearers

new challengers are giant hogs that make the originals look lithe and tiny

[Sam_Well.13]

i say 350z body with RWD 2.5 sentra SE-R motor will be your S-chassis. lol.

250sx

[drift freaq]

First of all I was FUCKING joking when I said "Yer DAMN RIGHT its beloved"!!!

No I did not miss the fact that it was being offered in both drive types and I also think it will do well. Im not saying that I want another S right now either, but it would be nice and yes I do understand that it might open the doors for an S chassis, but as Nissan has said countless times it's not likely.

I will also say this, as far as calling someone ignorant thats just rude! I never took any peronal shot's at you. Why does every person on this site feel the need to insult people....oh wait I know because we are on the internet. I would love to see half the people on here that talk shit and insult people do it face to face.

I do love the S-chassis as many others do, some of which have made successful businesses because of love for the car. How am I being ignorant about wanting a new one? I fully understand why Nissan has put this car out.

When you make ignorant statements like you made you can expect to be called ignorant. Now you are trying to backpedal and say you took all the stuff I stated into account, before I stated it.

Funny thing is until I pointed it out you did not utter a word about and spouted ignorant statements.

Truth be told I would say the same stuff to your face in person if you spouted off in person the way you did here.

I will say this one more time and you should listen carefully.

The car that we like in the U.S. version was underpowered for the chassis, as well as softly suspended. It was not marketed as a entry level sports car, like in Japan. It was marketed as a Economy Secretaries car.

Now that is what you are pining for.

[fishboi]

you guys know what that means... gotta step your game up on a 350z or 370z. lolSorry but that is not a step up. Its a step DOWN. Im already hunting for a 86. Now THATS a step up.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

if an ae86 is a step up, walking must be the pinnacle of transportation. you guys are the most ignorant people on earth. i hate this forum.

[DreamN]

Sorry but that is not a step up. Its a step DOWN. Im already hunting for a 86. Now THATS a step up.

WTF? This just made my head hurt.

An 80s econo-box is superior to a modern sports car?

Wow.... :smash:

[fishboi]

if an ae86 is a step up, walking must be the pinnacle of transportation. you guys are the most ignorant people on earth. i hate this forum.Hate is a strong word :hug:

WTF? This just made my head hurt.

An 80s econo-box is superior to a modern sports car?

Wow.... :smash: It isn't. Everyone seems to be crying about the 240 becoming the next civic. So I mentioned the 86 because not a lot of people know about it, compared to a 350/370. It's also ugly. :dead:

[VROOOM]

Sorry but that is not a step up. Its a step DOWN. Im already hunting for a 86. Now THATS a step up.

once the AE86 gets boring i have a Yugo ill sell ya.

[fishboi]

once the AE86 gets boring i have a Yugo ill sell ya. Does she come with your Yugo? Or Yugo only. http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/dohc1974/yugo.jpg












I highly doubt 10% of the folks on this forum will go out and buy one. Why? Too many fucking wishers, dreamers and broke ass kids in the 240sx world. Hey now....Luther King was a dreamer too. He was ALSO broke lol. Yet he succeeded.:hsdance:

[240sxEnciso]

i think it'd suck if they come out with another 240. Most of us really got these cars due to their uniqueness and rareness right ?

[VQMaxFan]

Well thats kind of cool, since it'll be an infiniti and not a nissan i could get the car at invoice. But it looks pretty stupid if you ask me.

i think it'd suck if they come out with another 240. Most of us really got these cars due to their uniqueness and rareness right ?

They aren't rare unless you drive a 98 or maybe a vert.

[whiterps13]

The car that we like in the U.S. version was underpowered for the chassis, as well as softly suspended. It was not marketed as a entry level sports car, like in Japan. It was marketed as a Economy Secretaries car.



Thank you, thats exaztly what I said a few posts back.
Most of you raving about a new S-Chassis have probably never driven a modern-day sports car. Go drive a 350z, and then tell me that your S-Chassis is the most godly fucking thing ever. Simply put, even with modifications they are pretty much SHIT compared to any modern-day sports car. Its no surprise that they havent really EVER been competative in any sort of racing other than Drifting and internet bench racing.

And if you hate the styling of the 370z, the "future S-Chassis" will not be your cup of tea either. I can guarantee it.

[Sam_Well.13]

Sorry but that is not a step up. Its a step DOWN. Im already hunting for a 86. Now THATS a step up.


wtf? really? first of all were talkn' bout nissan. When i mean about "stepping up" is that gettin a sports car most of these kids cant get a hold just for under $5000. :smash:

[upsdude]

the g25 is just an awd/rwd variant of the altima :P

even if it is fwd, the styling of the altima coupe is pretty nice imo...either way nissan's gonna do whatever the hell it wants, as long as it MAKES A PROFIT and keeps shareholders happy, that's the goal of any large corporation.

[Sam_Well.13]

nissan dont give a fuck about zilvia or what we all think. jst want to point that out.

[n8RPS13]

The car that we like in the U.S. version was underpowered for the chassis, as well as softly suspended. It was not marketed as a entry level sports car.

Well no shit it was underpowered who doesn't know that. As far as it not being marketed as a entry level sports car check this out
YouTube - Nissan 240sx commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpjSFz79sY)

If that ad doesn't say buy this sports car I don't know what does.:mephfawk:

[sLiDewAys]

I worked Concourse all last weekend, GOD. please NISSAN wtf are you doing with your new vehicles. The new Sentra looks like shit, The new 370z is DOPE but the new g37 is hideous and then this? I think I am going to hang up the keys and buy a hyundai Genesis Coupe

[98koukile]

I'm sure this has something to do with the fact that Nissan/Renault made an alliance with Daimler-Benz and they're in the talks of using Mercedes engines to replace the 370z/G37 power plant. They're probably looking to make them slightly more expensive and have an middle of the line car to fill the void

[articdragon192]

Hmmm, 2.5L V6? Might be rev happy. Should be an interesting motor swap option

[sLiDewAys]

I forget what car came equiped with it. But in late 2003 there was a VQ30DET. that made about 280hp! I believe.

I wonder what 5/6 spd trans fits?

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

y32 and y33 gloria/cedric.

[handinpants]

Once again we have someone crying over something good. You guys just don't fucking get it. By bringing out the G25 in the Infiniti line they have opened up the door to making a 250sx based off the Z line. Slight shrunken done Z chassis with different bodywork with a 200HP VQ25HR.

you have a good point here. doesn't the g25 look awfully like an altima coupe though?

[ms!3]

the 240sx has been gone since 98. never coming back. im sorry.

sincerely, pessimist.

[sLiDewAys]

well Technically... lol

[fliprayzin240sx]

The car that we like in the U.S. version was underpowered for the chassis, as well as softly suspended. It was not marketed as a entry level sports car.

Well no shit it was underpowered who doesn't know that. As far as it not being marketed as a entry level sports car check this out
YouTube - Nissan 240sx commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpjSFz79sY)

If that ad doesn't say buy this sports car I don't know what does.:mephfawk:

Unfortunately, you missed the later on commercials, specially for the S14s. Preludes and intergras were killing the US market, nissan was marketing the car toward female secretaries. If that was not desperation, I dont know what is.

[Walperstyle]

Toyota hasn't made a performance car worth even looking at since the supra, which was a pig and no competition for the GTR's whatsoever. Currently they seem to be reviving a little performance in their Lexus line, but it's only really the IS. Don't even get me started on the LF-A, I haven't the slightest clue why Toyota decided that that was a good car to build. It's cool and all, but it makes no sense. The FT86 is the same as our new s-chasis, at this point only hopes and dreams.

While a few of those lawsuits were "bogus" the vast majority were not. Toyota made an enormous mistake with their elecrical systems/programming and they are paying the due price for it.

I wonder why you're on a Nissan forum talking about how "great" Toyota is...

I Did not bring it up, thanks for reading everything in the thread. :cool:

edit: and for those electrical systems and programming, if you are talking about the Prius, maybe you should see what other owners are saying online about how stupid these drivers were. They are bogus lawsuits.

It just seems like drivers are getting dumber and expect everything to work like magic. Technology is unfortunately creating a false sense of safety in modern cars. If an airbag doesn't go off when I crash my car (my fault), kills my wife, I'm not exactly going to sue the automobile company for their mistake... I was the tard that crashed the car.

If you want to defend the next generation of drivers coming up, that is fine, but I really hope you teach your own kids how to actually drive. 98% of everything is avoidable, the other 2% is usually caused by someone that sucks at driving.

[Bumnah]

... Toyota is probably the smartest company in the world when it comes to automobiles...

The 3s-gte on the Mr2 used philips head screws to hold the valve cover on.
Removing the throttle body made it easier to remove #3 spark plug.
You HAD to remove the brake lines to do suspension on the Mr2. The hose ran through a hole welded to the strut body that held the brake hose. Unless you modified it, most did.
Rear parking brakes were notorious for freezing during winter.
Remove the AC compressor to remove the factory side mount intercooler.

Smart isn't the word I would use to describe some of these designs.

Honda makes the highest quality automobile in Japan. Too bad they've killed their performance line in search of sales. I'll take a Honda Fit over a Prius any day. I still dream of an MR2, but I'm not ignorant to the shortfalls of the car.

[5pecialist]

Toyota sucks. They are only in business because they market cars to dumb people who know nothing about cars (and want to know nothing). All they have to do is put a commercial on TV where a lady says "my Toyota makes me feel safe" and BOOM all the moms buy one. Things like "performance" scare dumb people.

[Walperstyle]

stuff you said

There we go again, jumping right back to performance cars. What was my original point? Go from there.

Every car has issues. KA24E valvetrain, DE s13 redundant butterflies, sketchy emission stuff, timing chain guides, more prone to rust, changing the rear spark plugs on a 300zx, etc.

[liljeb]

You guys are the most ignorant people on earth. i hate this forum.

:rofl: haha

[racepar1]

I Did not bring it up, thanks for reading everything in the thread. :cool:

edit: and for those electrical systems and programming, if you are talking about the Prius, maybe you should see what other owners are saying online about how stupid these drivers were. They are bogus lawsuits.

It just seems like drivers are getting dumber and expect everything to work like magic. Technology is unfortunately creating a false sense of safety in modern cars. If an airbag doesn't go off when I crash my car (my fault), kills my wife, I'm not exactly going to sue the automobile company for their mistake... I was the tard that crashed the car.

If you want to defend the next generation of drivers coming up, that is fine, but I really hope you teach your own kids how to actually drive. 98% of everything is avoidable, the other 2% is usually caused by someone that sucks at driving.

Son, I'm all about the driving. I don't know what in the world would make you think that I am the guy that you should talk down to on the topic of proper driving. I mean who the fuck are you??? I agree with everything you said except the lawsuits being bogus part. The cars had programming issues that would cause brake failure and unexpected acceleration. The best drivers in the world can be caught off guard by that and easily crash in the wrong situation. We cannot expect every driver in the world to react immediately, intelligently, and precisely in a highly stressful driving situation. Sometimes the best drivers in the world cannot do that. I also didn't see anyone but you talking about how great Toyota is. Toyota is great at making econoboxes, Nissan's great at making man cars...

[Sam_Well.13]

i loved my AE86 GT-S with the JDM red top :hs:

[Phlip]

How this thread continued when This One (http://zilvia.net/f/nissan-news/337284-2011-infiniti-g25-arrives-stateside-priced-30-950-a.html) existed first is beyond me.
However it goes, if we're going to have to argue over everything ever discussed around these parts, I would prefer to have only one ongoing argument on a particular issue at a time, and since that thread was around first and is relevant to the section in which it resides, I will kill this one.
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