View Full Version : NX1600 Cluster In a Zenki S13
HellsDrifter 666
08-16-2010, 09:52 AM
Yup, A digital NX1600 cluster in a 89 240 coupe. It was hard, believe me, but I did it just to put away rumors that it couldn't be done, and to shut a few people up. The wiring was the hard part, I hate Nissan wire diagrams, they are so vague about everything, I didn't need to use the NX speed sensor, or the temp sensor, because I have a twin cam swap with a 89 single cam tranny, and I guess the 89 tranny speed sensor puts out the same pulses per revolution as a NX speed sensor. But any way here are the pics.
The rough harness right after it was made http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15155433.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15155444.jpg Modifying the cluster garnish mounting plate thingy http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182309_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg After Modification http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182253_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg Had to cut away plastic at the base and the top of where the cluster sits because it the cluster is so tall it was hitting the bottom and the top of the cluster pod. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182515_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182526_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg Cleaned up Harness http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182507_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182459_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg Cluster Mock up http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-15182325_LakeWorth_Florida_US.jpg Here are some shots of it/me in action http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan001.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan003.jpghttp://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan007.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan012.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan025.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan030.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/nissan031.jpg
Me,lolhttp://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/SAM_0657.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/SAM_0721.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/SAM_0731.jpg http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/SAM_0742.jpg The car it was swapped into http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/SAM_0740.jpg
Smurf_240SX
08-16-2010, 09:59 AM
dang looks prty sweet
HellsDrifter 666
08-16-2010, 10:03 AM
Thanks dude :D
GeneStarWindGSW
08-16-2010, 10:05 AM
*now it is*
babyjesus
08-16-2010, 10:06 AM
heck yeah!! that thing looks sick! reminds me of back to the future, "1.21 gigga watts!"
Bumnah
08-16-2010, 10:21 AM
Looks sweet. Now convert to a black dash. :)
HellsDrifter 666
08-16-2010, 10:24 AM
@babyjesus : "Whoa this is HEAVY doc!"
@Bumnah : Nah, I like my blue interior.
Sam_Well.13
08-16-2010, 10:27 AM
WOW. thats look pretty legit.
this was off of the NX. pretty neat. Its like EK with S2k cluster.
SDS13COUPE
08-16-2010, 10:30 AM
Thats pretty dope. I'd rock it.
HellsDrifter 666
08-16-2010, 10:30 AM
WOW. thats look pretty legit.
this was off of the NX. pretty neat. Its like EK with S2k cluster.
Thanks dude, I still gotta fix the cluster garnish, its not quite the right shape. So I am gonna cut the part that surrounds the cluster off, shape it with foam, and have my friend wrap everything in carbon fiber, that's the next step.
SnakeKack
08-16-2010, 10:31 AM
Looks pretty cool. If I still had my S13 I'd come down there and hire ya to install one on mine. I'm only 35 minutes north of there lol.
Sterlz
08-16-2010, 10:33 AM
I like my blue interior too. Keep it!
WheelWhore
08-16-2010, 10:50 AM
Definately like it. Looks great!
eklips3
08-16-2010, 01:39 PM
ssiiickk !
props buddy
babyjesus
08-16-2010, 01:53 PM
@babyjesus : "Whoa this is HEAVY doc!"
@Bumnah : Nah, I like my blue interior.
"MCFLYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
-i dig the blue interior too
ki_JDM_ds
08-16-2010, 02:25 PM
I really like this.
Here is one on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Digital-Instrument-Cluster-Nissan-Nx1600-Nx-1600-Sentra-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ260651351912QQptZMotorsQ5f CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Fireblade RX-7
08-16-2010, 05:40 PM
My fingers and head still hurt from making that harness.
Smurf_240SX
08-16-2010, 06:01 PM
Hows it look in daylight?
BlackPearl
08-16-2010, 06:37 PM
it looks really sweet man. it looks a 100x's better in person.
HellsDrifter 666
08-16-2010, 06:54 PM
My fingers and head still hurt from making that harness.lol, yea. Making that shit sucked
@Smurf_240SX : it looks fine, its still really visible even at the brightest time of day, noon.
@ki_JDM_ds : yup, that's the one, although I think mine is from a 91 NX1600.
lost240soul
08-16-2010, 07:33 PM
Looks cook kinda like th knight riders cluster lol siccckk lol hahaha
projekt_s13
08-16-2010, 08:09 PM
Looks preety good, but you should have documented what wires you had to splice then it would be a helpful thread instead of a "look what i can do" thread.
s13silvia123
08-16-2010, 08:20 PM
it'll be nice i wanna do this since my clusters are funky looking and i know a few of these digi clusters are located as well "junk yards near me
brizanden
08-16-2010, 08:26 PM
thats sick write up to make it easy for all of us to copy you lol.
Broadfield
08-16-2010, 08:49 PM
Looks preety good, but you should have documented what wires you had to splice then it would be a helpful thread instead of a "look what i can do" thread.
That's an easy thing for someone to say, but usually when I'm doing something custom, I'm just trying to get it done. Let alone taking pics through the whole process etc. Only in the past couple years have I started taking a mass amount of pictures when I'm doing something custom. So unfortunately, there are over 15 years of custom work that I don't even have a single picture of.
OP: Nice work on getting the cluster wired up. I assume you simply used a FSM from both vehicles and mated everything together?
Fireblade RX-7
08-16-2010, 08:52 PM
Looks preety good, but you should have documented what wires you had to splice then it would be a helpful thread instead of a "look what i can do" thread.
I couldn't be bothered. It's not a matter of which wires you have to splice (you have to cut and re-solder every single one of them) it's knowing what each one is for. If you can read Nissan wiring diagrams, know how to solder, and understand how gauge clusters work, you can figure it out all by yourself like I did... And I don't even own a Nissan.
memphis180sx
08-16-2010, 09:10 PM
sweet love it looks like it took alot of time to do it though
HellsDrifter 666
08-17-2010, 01:01 AM
That's an easy thing for someone to say, but usually when I'm doing something custom, I'm just trying to get it done. Let alone taking pics through the whole process etc. Only in the past couple years have I started taking a mass amount of pictures when I'm doing something custom. So unfortunately, there are over 15 years of custom work that I don't even have a single picture of.
OP: Nice work on getting the cluster wired up. I assume you simply used a FSM from both vehicles and mated everything together?
That's very true, Fireblade RX-7 and I were just concentrating on getting it done, I just decided it would be cool to document the installation and the cluster running. It was no easy task, just ask Fireblade, it involved countless hours of staring at Nissan wire diagrams and labeling what each wire from each harness does. And yes, we used both 240sx and NX1600 FSM's and played connect the dots,lol. In total we needed 9 wire diagrams to get it done. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-17024635.jpg
K_style
08-17-2010, 02:52 AM
I have never seen NX1600 gauge cluster before...
It looks really good in S13...
eddieflo
08-17-2010, 04:37 AM
You guys should make those harnesses for those of us with no wiring and soldering skills. I'd pay for a sweet nx cluster in my s13!
Steve Lloyd
08-17-2010, 05:56 AM
anyway you could scan those diagrams in for us???
HellsDrifter 666
08-17-2010, 09:28 AM
You guys should make those harnesses for those of us with no wiring and soldering skills. I'd pay for a sweet nx cluster in my s13!
It's also a matter of finding a NX digital cluster in the junkyard in working condition with the dash harness still attached, because you need to cut it so you'll have the pigtail with all the connectors attached to the NX cluster. Also they are pretty rare and hard to find. But as soon two showed up in the junkyard by my house I nabbed both of them.
@Steve Lloyd : All those diagrams are from the NX and 240sx S13 Factory Service manuals, but Ill try to scan them.
erik05v
08-17-2010, 09:46 AM
damn it looks real good makes me wanna do it!!
HellsDrifter 666
08-17-2010, 10:25 AM
Thanks man.
Steve Lloyd
08-18-2010, 05:10 AM
or if you could just link us to a NX FSM, I have the S13 FSM's..........
Appreciate the help, and the work looks REALLY nice.......
s15specR
08-18-2010, 09:29 AM
Pretty cool.
bb4_96
08-18-2010, 11:24 AM
This is truly unique(to my knowledge). thanks for this contribution.
PerilousActs
08-18-2010, 10:34 PM
Subscribed for scans and FSM link.
Nice work!
Fred Allen Burge
08-19-2010, 07:17 PM
Really nice work! I looove doing projects like that, when they say it can't be done you just gotta do it :)
mad-ass
08-22-2010, 11:35 PM
I didn't know NX1600 existed, non the less with one hell of a cool cluster!
awesome write up!
93nismo
08-23-2010, 01:12 AM
that's awesome. really, really awesome.
younghatchowner
08-23-2010, 01:25 AM
You guys should make those harnesses for those of us with no wiring and soldering skills. I'd pay for a sweet nx cluster in my s13!
i was just about to post this..if u do end up making harness's and sell a full nx setup i will paypal money today lol
midnight240
08-23-2010, 01:37 AM
awesome, now do it with a 350 cluster....lol im just playin but dam it makes you wonder
WOW!
Happy to see theres still people out there doing shit for themselves. ANd something new at that!
Looks good, way to follow through on all the hard work.
Katsumbhong
08-23-2010, 02:08 AM
do a writeup and sticky
w0nderbr3ad
08-23-2010, 03:49 AM
Does your hud on the dash work with it too? That'd be awesome, but either way looks great. I'm looking forward to trying to do this if I ever find a cluster that works at the j-yard. Thanks for your hard work.
Fireblade RX-7
08-23-2010, 05:08 PM
Does your hud on the dash work with it too? That'd be awesome, but either way looks great. I'm looking forward to trying to do this if I ever find a cluster that works at the j-yard. Thanks for your hard work.
I was thinking about that the other day, I could do it if the HUD controller is self contained. If I remember correctly, the digital speedometer in the early S13 is kind of large, and would be hard (and not cool) to hide behind the dash if the HUD controller is built in.
awesome, now do it with a 350 cluster....lol im just playin but dam it makes you wonder
I could do it, but the cluster probably wouldn't fit under the dash, the NX cluster barely fit with lots of dremeling.
i was just about to post this..if u do end up making harness's and sell a full nx setup i will paypal money today lol
If you come to me with a working NX cluster, an S13 cluster sub-harness, a cluster-side harness pigtail from the NX (with at least a foot of harness still attached) and $250, and maybe we can work something out. It took me 12 hours to complete that harness and test it. If you sit down and stare at it long enough you can figure out how to do it once you apply some logic.
HellsDrifter 666
08-24-2010, 01:06 AM
Well, here's a link to the FSM. Its in the Volume 2 link towards the bottom of the PDF. Sorry for leaving you guys hanging, got really busy with school starting up again, Ill try to get the scans up soon. For those of you who are considering having a conversion harness made talk to Fireblade or PM me, he helped me with the wiring for this swap.
http://www.nissanforums.com/1307649-post168.html
nurvcom
08-24-2010, 09:24 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/338833-diy-nx1600-digital-into-s13-240sx.html#post3602398
If you're driving around, does the speed "jump"?
Like, if you're accelerating fast, does it jump from 30mph to 40?
Also, do you have some daytime pictures of the fitment?
Real awesome stuff dude, I'm thinking about doing it!
HellsDrifter 666
08-24-2010, 11:28 PM
If you're driving around, does the speed "jump"?
Like, if you're accelerating fast, does it jump from 30mph to 40?
Also, do you have some daytime pictures of the fitment?
Real awesome stuff dude, I'm thinking about doing it!
Yea, the speed does jump around when accelerating fast, as does all factory digital clusters. Ill try to post up the day time fitment pics soon.
240sxvaj
08-25-2010, 12:03 AM
too damn bored at home. imma do this on my day off.
Sergio180sx
08-25-2010, 01:48 AM
That shit looks gangsta!!!
HellsDrifter 666
08-26-2010, 12:36 AM
Thanks man
sil80 monster
08-26-2010, 12:41 AM
that's pretty cool, nicely done!
rxcos13
08-27-2010, 01:32 AM
Hey buddy i was woundering if it is possible to also have a functional HUD (from the originally equiped cluster) on the windshield working in conjunction with the nx1600 cluster? Maybe wiring the hud window displey to the vehicle speed display on the nx1600 cluster somehow? what do you think?
rxcos13
08-27-2010, 01:40 AM
Sorry guys i didnt see the other posts about the hud questions.
Goodlucks7even
08-27-2010, 07:53 AM
Yea, the speed does jump around when accelerating fast, as does all factory digital clusters. Ill try to post up the day time fitment pics soon.
Its all about the refresh cycle, early cars make the speed "jump" because it refresh every 1.xx second, the new cars has a better refresh cycle, over 35 Hz; I might try to find one that will fir my GTR dash !
Anyways looks great ! Lot of works has been done. And if you don't like the Nissan diagrams, u won't like the volks!
kyoshoboy
09-03-2010, 10:12 PM
no need for a diagram,all u have to do is follow the wires that is on the back of both gauges,theres a guide and names so u cant be lost,and just memorized the middle black connector pinout which is which,the middle plug is for digital.and the rest is easy.
Mangudai
09-03-2010, 10:21 PM
You guys should make those harnesses for those of us with no wiring and soldering skills. I'd pay for a sweet nx cluster in my s13!
Would definitely be a good idea if there was enough interest.
Mishkin_707
09-24-2010, 06:09 PM
im lovin it, i was thinking of doing the digital rpm gauge from a Q45 into my digital cluster on my S13, i did and ek to s2k swap on my boys civic si, shit was a pain in the ass although people already had the wiring pin outs for both clusters, worst parts was the rpm gauge, he had to get this thing for a motor cycle to calibrate the rpms, in the end it looks awesome, i'd love something like thid in my S13 but my question would be the same as the other people in here asking about the hud working in our windshields with that nx cluster, great job with this
onlydrinkkoolaid
09-24-2010, 11:15 PM
thats a pretty nice setup just another thing to be thinking about
S-Nation S13
12-09-2010, 05:52 PM
holy crap...nice to know there is another digi cluster, imma go look for this cluster just in case my digi hud goes out nice
nurvcom
12-11-2010, 11:54 PM
im lovin it, i was thinking of doing the digital rpm gauge from a Q45 into my digital cluster on my S13, i did and ek to s2k swap on my boys civic si, shit was a pain in the ass although people already had the wiring pin outs for both clusters, worst parts was the rpm gauge, he had to get this thing for a motor cycle to calibrate the rpms, in the end it looks awesome, i'd love something like thid in my S13 but my question would be the same as the other people in here asking about the hud working in our windshields with that nx cluster, great job with this
u have a pic of q45 digital RPM
Chaluska
03-17-2011, 03:10 PM
one big note :
DOHC and SOHC 5 spd sensors do not work properly on an Auto NX cluster
hgarza240
06-29-2011, 11:54 PM
quick question how did you make the numbers look so white ? i just got a cluster and im trying to figure out if it looks like that stock or if u modified yours with leds or something
HPKMotorsports3
12-19-2011, 09:37 AM
Omg that looks like pure sex! I want one... Lol thanks for the diagram OP also would this work for a SR?
nurvcom
12-19-2011, 09:40 AM
Omg that looks like pure sex! I want one... Lol thanks for the diagram OP also would this work for a SR?
UPDATE
Use SOHC speed sensor for this mod
Stock nx1600 water temp sensor for correct temp
and all is well
SR KA DOHC only
HPKMotorsports3
12-19-2011, 02:14 PM
UPDATE
SR ka DOHC only
:wiggle::hyper::boink::drool::wackit::bigok::x::na ughty::snoop::loco:
YAYYYYYY lol
lucas240sx
12-25-2011, 09:19 AM
thank you nurvcom
I just picked up a cluster with pigtails for $35 from junk yard
Jut need the 2 sensors now
nurvcom
03-02-2012, 09:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/embed/qvEvmqtPR2M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvEvmqtPR2M)
revcyanide
03-02-2012, 09:58 AM
could you take measurements of the cluster?
I would love it in my starlet.
ultramagnus
03-02-2012, 10:07 AM
So this can only be used on KADE and SR's Correct ? I think i'm gonna do this when i put my dual cam in my coupe. This summer but i'm staying automatic so will the speed sensor be an issue ?
Dark Spec
03-02-2012, 02:30 PM
depends on the cluster u get
Japan240SX
08-29-2012, 06:06 PM
My nx1600 cluster is going in my s13 later on tonight to test the h.arness out! Hope everything gos good
Gorman240
09-04-2012, 03:22 PM
That's very true, Fireblade RX-7 and I were just concentrating on getting it done, I just decided it would be cool to document the installation and the cluster running. It was no easy task, just ask Fireblade, it involved countless hours of staring at Nissan wire diagrams and labeling what each wire from each harness does. And yes, we used both 240sx and NX1600 FSM's and played connect the dots,lol. In total we needed 9 wire diagrams to get it done. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/nismophiliac/2010-08-17024635.jpg
Is there any way to where you can direct me to get these wiring diagrams? i would really appreciate the help on find these (mainly the nx1600) thanks!
kilamax03
09-09-2012, 04:58 PM
does it matter if the nx1600 is auto or not?
Gorman240
09-10-2012, 03:48 PM
hey man think you could hook me up with a wiring diagram of your nx cluster? or at least tell me where you got yours? because im putting one in my car and i cant seem to find a wiring diagram for mine that matches all of my wire colors. so any advice would be great. thanks
edlover714
01-05-2013, 08:43 PM
hopefully sum 1 chimes in with hud mod part, wirring easy , just repin harness to the 2 large plugs then cut solder the digi harness plug , but looking to see if any one added hud harness to this
supersayianjim
09-18-2014, 10:19 AM
bump from the dead!!! I need some guidance as my nx cluster endeavor will begin here this weekend!!
bigmj44
03-26-2018, 09:41 PM
Bump from the dead do anyone happen to have pics of how you trimmed your cluster bezel the one with emergency light button and flip light button etc.. I trimmed top part of mine a lot and still won’t fit in there and mine is old and brittle so if I keep thinning it out it will break so I wanna know if I’m trimming it wrong or what happend.. def need help! Would mean a lot thanks! :)
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