Questions on trader ratings and disputes

[ichihachizero]

Ok so I bought something from a guy sent him the money asked him how long it would take and when he would ship it. He didn't pm me til after 3 days he recieved the payment he said he'd do it "soon." so I jut ask him to let me know when it will be shipped. One week since I sent payment. I am quite angry because the guy hasn't shipped it and ask for my money back because he hadn't been replying to anything I say and it still hasn't been sent. He says no and basically tells me to fck off and that I'll get the product. This guy has a great track record when it comes to selling things so I was suprised at his unproffessionalism. I give him his first bad review and throws a fit 59 good to on bad. He talks to a mod and gets it revoked telling the mod completely different things to why I was angry and gave him a bad rating. Ok so the mod deletes it. My question is WTF I bought it he treated me like shit so I gave him a negative rating, as a common zilvian wth is in my power to give this ahole a negative rating or is there a mod who can help me out or at least understand.

[saleaf]

that's bullshit in my opinion. If someone wants to treat you like shit and dick you around. They should definitely get a Neg rating. THAT'S WHY THERE IS A NEG RATING OPTION! If they don't like it, O WELL. Too bad so sad... Shouldn't have messed around.

I definitely want to know if who i am paying up front is going to come through. And if they have screwed other people over. I wont buy from them. I rely a lot on their trader reputation.

[heavenboundkevin]

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I definitely want to know if who i am paying up front is going to come through. And if they have screwed other people over. I wont buy from them. I rely a lot on their trader reputation.


same here.

[godrifttoday]

Maybe it's just politics... If you are a Well liked member... And poof negative feedback deleted... Rules don't apply to certain people

[drift freaq]

ah excuse me you sent him a echeck through paypal on tues which did not clear till friday. Basically I speak from experience here most people do not ship until echecks clear.

Plus you are not even telling your complete side of the story here which I happen to know.

You basically asked for your money back stating you had found a item locally for cheaper after you had already paid for the item he is shipping you.
Now its been less than a week since you even started paying him. Which means you should have no complaints about the shipping time.
People have lives they do not exist to ship every little item always instantly. If a person ships within a week of being paid there should be no problem. If it takes longer and they tell you then that is not a problem.

You did not have any of this stuff. You basically just paid him this last week during the middle of the week with a payment that did not even clear till friday.
You were not complaining about him not shipping nor were you complaining about him not talking to you.

You basically tried to back out on a deal you already made because you found something cheaper and you wanted your money back.
It does not work that way with private sellers.
This is not Costco, Nordstrom's or even Walmart. You don't automatically get your money back on a item from a person because you happen to find it cheaper elsewhere after the fact.

You are being a punk here which is way the mod deleted your review.
Oh and you cannot right a seller review till after you have received an item which you have not even done yet and its been less than a week.

that's bullshit in my opinion. If someone wants to treat you like shit and dick you around. They should definitely get a Neg rating. THAT'S WHY THERE IS A NEG RATING OPTION! If they don't like it, O WELL. Too bad so sad... Shouldn't have messed around.

I definitely want to know if who i am paying up front is going to come through. And if they have screwed other people over. I wont buy from them. I rely a lot on their trader reputation.
Read what I wrote above this kid is full of shit. He is crying because he wanted his money back after making a purchase because he found it for cheaper local.

Like I said before private sellers are not Costco. You cannot go to them and say I want my money back because I found it cheaper after the fact. He made his purchase and its been less than a week.

Oh and he was not treated like a dick till he started acting like a dick. He has the idea that everyone is Costco.

[ichihachizero]

. I bought locally cuz he didn't reply to me in days even after he had my money. It's more about the communication part of it as much as everything else. He never told me anything even after I explicitly asked him to. He got my money and went mute until I kept bugging him asking when I would get my stuff.. And it was not until then that he told me that , oh I shipped it out . THAT was AFTER I gave him a bad review. And e can tell u anything he wants lying is what I call it I payed through paypal. And he got my money and still didn't reply he can lie all he wants lie through his teeth but I have his pms him treating me like crap and everything when I jut wanted to know some information.which since he already had my money I should have rightfully recieved. He lied to you all to save his trader rating. Now if anyone actually looked at our pms they would give him a negative review also.

[ichihachizero]

He was an improffesional ahole. Now I can give two shits about the 30 dollars it's not alot I am pissed cuz of his demeanor and his words that he decided to choose in talkng to me. Just because you have a good trader rating doesn't mean that u are exempt from being a dick. It's no about the money here drift freaq it's about communication.

Oh also u say it's not like cosco well his argument is he is more
like cosco with business days and bs ur argument is fallacious. He didn't tell me it was shipped until after I asked for my money back when I explicitly told him let me know when it was shipped. From wednsday to Sunday there was no relply from him. I pmd him twice for inuiries no respond. U act like a bad trader rating is in the product. It's in lack of communication when he already had my money. You guys are just so greedy man.

[drift freaq]

He was an improffesional ahole. Now I can give two shits about the 30 dollars it's not alot I am pissed cuz of his demeanor and his words that he decided to choose in talkng to me. Just because you have a good trader rating doesn't mean that u are exempt from being a dick. It's no about the money here drift freaq it's about communication.

Dude try proper spelling first off. Its unprofessional. Second off. You sent him a echeck Which did not clear till friday and you sent it to him last tues. Thats like 5 days since you sent the check and its now 2 days since it cleared.


You bought the item from him already. You can't just buy something from someone get impatient when its been less than a week and then go buy the same thing somewhere else and ask for your money back.

I will say this again private sellers are not Costco, Walmart or Nordstroms.

Its been less than a week and there is nothing unprofessional about what he has done.
You are the one being unprofessional. You are trying to use the supposed communication issue as a way to justify your own actions.

READ THIS CLEARLY . ITS BEEN LESS THAN A COMPLETE WEEK. Plus your contact with him today which he responded to immediately asked for your money back. 5 days after you paid him! Shit man people have lives, sometimes it takes me a week or two to ship stuff. I might not get back to a person for a few days its not unprofessional its called busy.

Plus he responded to you today immediately and honestly if you had done this to me I would have told you no I will not refund your money. You bought the item its being shipped to you. Sorry you got impatient and bought the same item elsewhere but 5 days is hardly a long time.

Plus I know for a fact he checks his p.m.s frequently and if you had p.m.d he would have responded.

I call complete bullshit on your story here because the truth is you just want your money back because your just to impatient to be reasonable.
Oh and mods do not just go delete stuff like uncalled for trader ratings without proof that it was uncalled for. That proof was given to the mods.

[ichihachizero]

I'm posting from my phone and Japanese is my first language so excuse me for making improper errors in my writing. 2nd he should have told me it was shipped like I asked that's all I asked just to make sure. He didn't I had no idea it was shipped because he didn't tell me and you wonder why I got pissed? I didn't say it was cosco I asked for my money bak cuz he didn't ship and didn't communicate an when he did he used vulgar language. Plain and simple. U r sticking up for your buddy did u read what he said r how he talked after I asked for my money back? I'm not being impatient I asked for a simple communication. He didn't give it so stop sticking up for your buddy when u had no idea what really went on between us. Seriously it's not me you and him. It's me and him he could easily have lied to you too so don't try to put this on me. You are making assumptions that I am lying..
There's a saying
there's my story
his story
and the truth

each story is scewed. You just want to beleive everything your friend says. I can understand but you cannot take his side as complete truth. I am patient I waited five days for a pm from someone I asked for some communication with. From wednesday to today there was none. Period. Stop using invalid arguments.

[drift freaq]

I'm posting from my phone and Japanese is my first language so excuse me for making improper errors in my writing. 2nd he should have told me it was shipped like I asked that's all I asked just to make sure. He didn't I had no idea it was shipped because he didn't tell me and you wonder why I got pissed? I didn't say it was cosco I asked for my money bak cuz he didn't ship and didn't communicate an when he did he used vulgar language. Plain and simple. U r sticking up for your buddy did u read what he said r how he talked after I asked for my money back? I'm not being impatient I asked for a simple communication. He didn't give it so stop sticking up for your buddy when u had no idea what really went on between us. Seriously it's not me you and him. It's me and him he could easily have lied to you too so don't try to put this on me. You are making assumptions that I am lying..
There's a saying
there's my story
his story
and the truth

each story is scewed. You just want to beleive everything your friend says. I can understand but you cannot take his side as complete truth. I am patient I waited five days for a pm from someone I asked for some communication with. From wednesday to today there was none. Period. Stop using invalid arguments.

Ah I am not using invalid arguments. You have already changed your own story in the course of this thread.

You have now admitted that its only been 5 days. You have also admitted that you contacted him today straight up asking for your money back.

Oh and he did contact you within 3 days of initial echeck. Which means he did stay in contact.

Now only part of that was stated in your first post. It's not about sticking up for my friend. Its about knowing the person is pretty damn honest and reliable.

You do not get a high trader rating without it. I will say this again 5 days is not a long time.
seriously your echeck cleared on friday. Which means he did not have to think about shipping till friday at the earliest. No one ships before they receive funds. He could have shipped before friday and you could have canceled the echeck or it might not have even cleared.

You used a echeck which means funds are not there till its cleared. You had contact with him in the last 5 days as well.

Face it you are being unreasonable and impatient. 5 days is not enough time to ask for ones money back when buying stuff over the internet. Especially from someone who is known to be reputable.

[Sam_Well.13]

where the PM's?

So you bought an item. The guy took awhile to respond to your PM's let alone ship your part, so you went ahead and buy the same item elsewhere. Now you're asking for a refund because of the lack of communication.

And this all happen within' a week??

Correct me if im wrong, but people sell stuff here to make extra money, they have lives to live and jobs to attend to, I understand you're angry from the lack of communication.

But you gotta be much more reasonable than that. I mean who really act like a dick to who first? Maybe you came at him wrong so he had to back fire to you, and vice versa.

Give it some more time. And if its too late, you can always sell w/e it is here and get your money back.

[miravete]

even though i dont know "the full story with details" im with ichihachizero.

if a seller, doesnt respond to you within 5 days to let you know whats going on with the product he sold to you, i too would get nervous.

i have been in the situation where i havent sent out an item i was paid for on time. but ive managed to let the buyer know about the situation.

and even if its a paypal echeck, not everyone is familiar with having to wait for the check to clear.

improffesional unprofessional, tomatoe tomato....

isnt the customer always right?

oh wait, its not costco :D

[ichihachizero]

I don't even care anymore it is about him not telling me a simple thing (when he ships it) so of course I got pissed when he said he was going to ship It last week and hasn't. I honestly he deserved a bad trader rating from me. It's one to 59 suck it up I asked you to do a simple thing and he didn't do it. Meaning it wasn't shipped. Period. I'll check the postmark date on the box though. I just wanted some notification. And 5 days when I asked him a simple thing is a long time when he has your money hostage. It isn't about the money anymore it's about the fact that he cussed at me when I was asking questions and was very uncommunicative period. I told you I dgaf about money but ehen he goes out of his way to have my opinion blocked that's what pisses me off. This beirecratic nonsense. If someone had your money you expect them to follow simple instructions such as let me know when u ship it. He said I will ship it this week. He did not infom me. I asked for money back because he didn't send me my crap when he said he would and was a ahole and uncommunicative period. I gave him a bad trader rating cuz he treated me like shit. And I posted this because other people would see that it's wrong to treat customers like this. It's wrong that he's exempt from recieving a bad trader rating. It's wrong that he can be a ass to us regular hobbyists when we ask or simple things. Five days is a long time when he says he would ship it five days earlier. It's a matter of professionalism not of money. And I never said it wasn't five days but when he states he'll get something done and I ask him to keep me posted I expect o be kept posted. He failed to do that. Five days is a long time considering I payed on a Sunday and asked on Tuesday and didn't get reply AT ALL. I had to ask for money back forhim to say ohh I sent it fck off.

[Sam_Well.13]

SSSoo who is this guy?

If you want us to be aware?

[drift freaq]

even though i dont know "the full story with details" im with ichihachizero.

if a seller, doesnt respond to you within 5 days to let you know whats going on with the product he sold to you, i too would get nervous.

i have been in the situation where i havent sent out an item i was paid for on time. but ive managed to let the buyer know about the situation.

and even if its a paypal echeck, not everyone is familiar with having to wait for the check to clear.

improffesional unprofessional, tomatoe tomato....

isnt the customer always right?

oh wait, its not costco :D

Ah excuse me but the seller contacted the buyer within 3 days and said he would ship soon. That is even admitted by the buyer.
Read what the buyer said in his first post.

Again people have lives, 5 days is not a long time and the buyer did contact the seller during that 5 days.
Customers are right when they are not being unreasonable. In this situation the customer was being unreasonable and refuses to accept that fact.

The customer is being a spoiled little brat about the whole thing.

Oh and to the OP once again your echeck did not clear till friday. Which means he did not even have your money till friday. That was two days ago. He was not holding your money hostage.

If you don't understand basic banking procedures with money then you should not be buying stuff from people with echecks in the first place.

I suggest you read up on the whole process.

Oh and if you start getting rude with people its sometimes hard not for them to be rude back. They are human and I am sure you were rude with him as he is not rude with people unless they are rude to him.

I am done in this. The OP has a lot to learn about doing business and life and should refrain from making purchases on the internet till then.

[ichihachizero]

It's not important who the guy is I was just actually making a statement and hopefully be allowed by a admin to undelete my negative trade rating. Like I said I don't know the guy. It's just a fckd up thing he did to me maybe he didn't do it to anyone else but I just really expected some fair treatment in trader ratings. Really though I don't care anymore it's a waste of time. I'm not flaming the guy I'm flaming the system and the allowence of not letting me post a negative trade rating. It sucks.

[lexlaxlux]

this is zilvia! fuck your couch fend for yourself! lol just kidding. this guy sounds like a bitch, starts a thread to bitch. bitch= no one cares. im laughing at this bitch.

out of all seriousness, 59 + ratings and you fuck him with your -1 and you pay
with an e-check... lol who pays with e-check? If it was paid in full like paypal bal then
you would have got your shit. Paying with e-check is like saying I don't have money now but i can count my chickens before they hatch and hope i got money in the bank before it clears.

Trader rating is a system used to rate the accuracy of an item you traded,sold,bought for... not the actual person. its a misconception now-a-day that we do trader ratings like ebay, "fast shipping... great guy..cheap price" instead of
"item just as described...this is what i wanted... pristine condition steering wheel"
we are all guilty of it. then again it's all preference what we choose to put.

just my 2cents is why shit on someones rating if your getting what you paid for? you wouldn't walk into 7/11, get some chips and start eating them as your paying and change your mind walking out the door to return them, cause your bank account is gonna bounce.

we dont live, dream, breathe selling/buying parts. you gotta understand most of us have real lives and dont check our emails/msgs/paypals every chance we get

[ichihachizero]

And no I dsnt admit that he contacted me Monday and said will ship soon. I waited til Sunday no reply no telling when it would ship. Drift freaq stop trying to thread Jack . It's not unreasonable to let me know when it ships. He told me on Monday he got the money u fck. When he said ittle ship soon is when he said he got it.

[Sam_Well.13]

just my 2cents is why shit on someones rating if your getting what you paid for? you wouldn't walk into 7/11, get some chips and start eating them as your paying and change your mind walking out the door to return them, cause your bank account is gonna bounce.



grab and go son, grab and go!!!.. lol

[drift freaq]

And no I dsnt admit that he contacted me Monday and said will ship soon. I waited til Sunday no reply no telling when it would ship. Drift freaq stop trying to thread Jack . It's not unreasonable to let me know when it ships. He told me on Monday he got the money u fck. When he said ittle ship soon is when he said he got it.

I am not thread jacking I am calling you on your bullshit and constantly trying to change your story. You have already been caught doing that 3 times shall we go for 4?

You already stated in your first post that he contacted you 3 days after initiation of the echeck. Now you are changing your story again in this post, saying he contacted you monday and then no contact.
Your word has no value since you change it every other post. It leads us to believe you are full of shit.

Do yourself a favor and give it up, because you are just digging a deeper hole here for yourself.

[killer240]

it is true that some seller dont really keep in touch after they get their payments
but this doesnt make you right ichihachizero

sellers, you should automatically know that. everytime there is an update, keep the buyer updated too.

ex. you sent out the item, you should send the tracking number to the buyer. dont just sit and wait till they ask for it.

buyers, you just have to be patient. we all get the chills but chillax.

ichihachizero, from the stories i just read. it sounds like your being annoying.
but then i dont know what exactly happen.

[ichihachizero]

Alright nice to know thanks for the tips
night zilvia

[lexlaxlux]

spoon fed baby. he just needs to stfu and be a man. grow a pair dude, live and learn.

i've never hated or flamed on anyone but stuff like this pisses me off!
im done

[godrifttoday]

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